Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

**LoveThyTitties** · 01-15-17 14:16

Originally Posted by LoveThyTitties [View Original Post]

Your not going to bed at that time tonight. Go Cowboys!

My bad. That's the early game today.

**LoveThyTitties** · 01-15-17 14:03

Originally Posted by VelvetRayne [View Original Post]

If you make the date the night before and just like with late night will be up and ready to see you if you late me know earlier in the day. I get up early but not at 4 am so I can be awake and ready for a 530 or 6 am date. So that means I am in bed pretty early too. About 9 or 10 every night.

Always,

VR.

Your not going to bed at that time tonight. Go Cowboys!

**WorksAlot** · 01-15-17 11:50

Not sure where to put this, but lacey contacted me. She's in a bit of a financial bind and is offering good deals for the next few days. If you'very wanted to see her, now is definitely the time.

**BigMack** · 01-15-17 06:08

Originally Posted by SilkyWetness [View Original Post]

I have used a vouch system and found it quite usieful and sometimes a lifesaver I'm all for anything that gives us providers peace of mind theres no point asking some of these gals for references because they either get very hostile or just don't answer at all and with the influx of BP provider's only a few well respected original providers nobody is giving them atkeast with vouchung its a one time deal and takes nuch less time wgich is great for those on time constraints.

Mutual security is important to both sides and vouching is a method to increase security for both sides. Just remember that both sides can say no on what is asked of them and no hard feelings should be forthcoming. Just move on and find someone who has your likes and above all before you use a lady as your voucher have the common courtesy to inform her BEFORE so she is not surprised by another providers inquiry. Internal vetting is important for both sides of the isle JMO.

**Velvet Rayne** · 01-15-17 02:12

Originally Posted by Bart269 [View Original Post]

Anyone had any luck with sending emails on EB? I've tried a couple times and haven't had any luck. Also these ads pop up at all hours and I never know if they are available at early mornings or not. In my situation, I have to plan ahead of time as I can't just leave work or home at the drop of a hat. I have had luck on this site with some gals, but others I never get a response. Kind of frustrating. Here lately I wake up around 4 am and can sneak out before work but never knows who would be available before 6.

If you make the date the night before and just like with late night will be up and ready to see you if you late me know earlier in the day. I get up early but not at 4 am so I can be awake and ready for a 530 or 6 am date. So that means I am in bed pretty early too. About 9 or 10 every night.

Always,

VR.

**MissMichelle** · 01-14-17 14:45

Originally Posted by Bart269 [View Original Post]

I wake up around 4 am and can sneak out before work but never knows who would be available before 6.

I am 😘.

MissMichelle.

**SilkyWetness** · 01-14-17 13:44

I have used a vouch system and found it quite usieful and sometimes a lifesaver I'm all for anything that gives us providers peace of mind theres no point asking some of these gals for references because they either get very hostile or just don't answer at all and with the influx of BP provider's only a few well respected original providers nobody is giving them atkeast with vouchung its a one time deal and takes nuch less time wgich is great for those on time constraints.

**AdamP469** · 01-14-17 11:27

Originally Posted by BTBear [View Original Post]

With the influx of BP women to USAAC, how in the hell can a hobbyist differentiate the scammers from the non-scammers?

Simple answer is for the guys to post a review or a simple confirmation.

Maybe USAAC could add some sort of certification process. I know that other sites require women to be "certified" or "verified" which can be done by the provider providing a reference from an established hobbyist. Now I realize that this system could be corrupted by pimps and "managers" but I would believe it that those instances would be more of an exception than a rule.

Now I would not require this certification to post an ad. This would allow newbies to get certified. Maybe an extra panel/tab on USAAC or USASG where Senior Members could log into that shows the current list of advertisers and then a check box for that Senior to "certify" that the lady was who she was and performed as advertised. That certification would generate a Certification number that the provider could input into her ad, maybe even have a check box on the ad creation page.

The certificating hobbyist would remain anonymous to the public, but USAAC would know their identity and could police any drama caused by the process.

Your thoughts, if any?

While I agree with why you would like to have this feature, I do not think it is worth the effort to add it to the site. The performance and behavior of providers can change overnight. I've seen reports on previously well reviewed providers who have suddenly stopped giving good service and / or started ripping off customers. I've experienced such changes with a couple providers, myself. I've seen some rebound from the poor service or otherwise bad behavior, and I've seen others who never rebuilt their reputations.

I think our best bet is to identify other seniors who have opinions that we trust and to make decisions based on their reports and, if need be, to PM them if we have questions. An example of what I mean is that if somebody you trust posts a review of a provider and some time passes or something specific you want to know was not addressed in the report, you might want to contact that hobbyist to see if he's been back to see the same provider since he last reviewed her and if he's still satisfied with her services, or if he can provide you with the extra information you need. I'd trust the answer I received from another senior member over a check box on a profile or ad.

**Bart269** · 01-14-17 04:37

Anyone had any luck with sending emails on EB? I've tried a couple times and haven't had any luck. Also these ads pop up at all hours and I never know if they are available at early mornings or not. In my situation, I have to plan ahead of time as I can't just leave work or home at the drop of a hat. I have had luck on this site with some gals, but others I never get a response. Kind of frustrating. Here lately I wake up around 4 am and can sneak out before work but never knows who would be available before 6.

**D Nut** · 01-13-17 22:26

Originally Posted by UOnlyLiveOnce [View Original Post]

In the BP review section has apparently caused one monger in particular to get his britches in a wad. I'm not clear what the big deal is. I simply reported what happened, which was they wanted a pic of me before they would agree to meet, I said no, they in turn said no, and I added a comment to my post about it not being good for business. Most of the mongers here are smart enough to decide for themselves what to do on the basis of my report. They can send their real pic, send a fake one, or not contact them at all. And since we're talking about a couple 19 year-olds who, so far as anyone knows, are running their show themselves, they may very well change their minds about this tomorrow.

I was just telling you all what had happened since, to my knowledge, they had not previously requested pics from anyone. That's kind of what this forum is for, to report new developments if they occur. Do with the info what you want. Not a big deal at all.

I really didn't understand the suggestion that a fake pic be sent to the girls when a pic is requested. Wouldn't they know you sent a fake pic the moment they laid eyes on you? It's bait-and-switch, by the monger. I consider it a scam if a provider uses fake pics to lure you in. I would be hypocritical if I were to condone or do the same. If you don't want to send a pic, just say so. If it's a deal breaker, walk away and try someone else. You lose nothing but a little time.

I prefer to have above board dealings; I pay the requested donation for the time and services agreed upon, by the people I expect to be present. Very simple.

**Catt2009** · 01-13-17 21:19

Originally Posted by SilkyWetness [View Original Post]

Guys I vvant stress enough how important everyones time is from both sides don't ask us to get ready then literally minutes before not show up trust me I of all prople understand thinhs happen but they don't happen that quickly very disappointed.

That stinks! I'm looking forward to seeing you again someday. Just a bit of a drive! .

**Voligar** · 01-13-17 16:15

Originally Posted by UOnlyLiveOnce [View Original Post]

In the BP review section has apparently caused one monger in particular to get his britches in a wad. I'm not clear what the big deal is. I simply reported what happened, which was they wanted a pic of me before they would agree to meet, I said no, they in turn said no, and I added a comment to my post about it not being good for business. Most of the mongers here are smart enough to decide for themselves what to do on the basis of my report. They can send their real pic, send a fake one, or not contact them at all. And since we're talking about a couple 19 year-olds who, so far as anyone knows, are running their show themselves, they may very well change their minds about this tomorrow.

I was just telling you all what had happened since, to my knowledge, they had not previously requested pics from anyone. That's kind of what this forum is for, to report new developments if they occur. Do with the info what you want. Not a big deal at all.

I agree with you, if people only posted the same good things and none of the bad experiences there wouldn't be a point to this this place.

**UOnlyLiveOnce** · 01-13-17 16:04

In the BP review section has apparently caused one monger in particular to get his britches in a wad. I'm not clear what the big deal is. I simply reported what happened, which was they wanted a pic of me before they would agree to meet, I said no, they in turn said no, and I added a comment to my post about it not being good for business. Most of the mongers here are smart enough to decide for themselves what to do on the basis of my report. They can send their real pic, send a fake one, or not contact them at all. And since we're talking about a couple 19 year-olds who, so far as anyone knows, are running their show themselves, they may very well change their minds about this tomorrow.

I was just telling you all what had happened since, to my knowledge, they had not previously requested pics from anyone. That's kind of what this forum is for, to report new developments if they occur. Do with the info what you want. Not a big deal at all.

**SilkyWetness** · 01-13-17 12:50

Guys I vvant stress enough how important everyones time is from both sides don't ask us to get ready then literally minutes before not show up trust me I of all prople understand thinhs happen but they don't happen that quickly very disappointed.

**Raider1687** · 01-13-17 11:07

Originally Posted by DNut [View Original Post]

Oh, I trust that they are legit. Your review removes doubt. It's their business practices that is being talked about. They are lovely girls who are used to being in the girl-centric real world.

The biz, though, is monger-centric Their need for cash, and us having extra to spend, shifts that balance of power to our favor.

But they are new. In time they will find that sweet spot between their cautiousness and our cautiousness and a smoother transaction will be had by all.

18 year old strippers do not need to play by your rules or the ones that board favorites from USAclass play by. Hate to tell you this. Have you ever seen their phones? Been with them long enough to hear them go off? You guys just don't get how things are and you won't adjust to get what you want.

I have tried and tried, but you all just don't get it, it is like you all WANT to bang the same 30-35 year old that has been stuffed 8 times that day and then come here and talk about it.

I gave the review. Said they were legit. The guy isn't brilliant enough to send a pic of someone else and go see them and have fun. Then you guys talk about it, throwing out all sorts of false information. One idiot thinks it is "strange" that they can't work past 5 pm!

Don't you get it, this bs leaves no motivation to leave a review. But carry on, keep talking about their business practices and driving reviewing mongers away. Count me among them.