The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

**John HandCock** · 01-07-17 06:59

Originally Posted by MbncMar [View Original Post]

I don't follow the Richmond thread, the best advice is on the la thread. In the the first 10 pages you will find loads of info. The Richmond crew is just amateurs.

The Richmond thread is where it all started. It has thousands of pages of info. It would be considered the college course. Lots of technical boring stuff. Very few post about actual info on actual girls.

The Hollywood thread is the penthouse letter forum. Lots of guys having sex with numerous sugar babies. Here everyone has numerous girls for little or no $. Just like penthouse its good reading lots of fiction with very little info or links to actual women.

EVERY thread has some useful info and entertaing reading. You take what works for you in your area and apply it. What works in the fictional writing doesn't work in the real world. Don't drink the grape kool-aid because everyone else is. What works in the real world is $$ then personality. If you have these your going to do ok in the sugar world. If you have the $$$ only you will still be ok as there are quite a few pros and utr girls on SA.

**Tomas247** · 01-07-17 03:48

How much would you be willing to put up for an evening or overnight? What do you think is fair? If the girl is 7/10.

Originally Posted by CigarFL [View Original Post]

I find it pretty easy to score full-service for up to two hours for $150 or less. I hate the old "numbers" scoring system, but I admit it is challenging to get the perfect 10 beauty queens for what I am paying. The thing is, if I have to make a choice I prefer great sex over just beauty. I have learned to play with the 6-7-8's and have spectacular sessions while spending as little as $100 and no more than $150. For sure, rates are higher in some areas, such as mid-town Manhattan. But I have generally found that my rates hold in a typical suburb or better yet, small college towns.

**MbncMar** · 01-07-17 01:26

Do not post the link, just post the name and have people search on their own. Repeat again, never post the link to the profile. Ever. Ever. Ever. This is what keeps sa on the dl. The profiles show views so don't blow it up by posting links. It freaks the babies out when all of a sudden 200 hits come in. Give a partial name so people have to have an account and do their homework please.

**MbncMar** · 01-06-17 21:17

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...-Sites/page137

Just keep looking for Hollywood guys posts and you will learn lots.

**MbncMar** · 01-06-17 21:13

I don't follow the Richmond thread, the best advice is on the la thread. In the the first 10 pages you will find loads of info. The Richmond crew is just amateurs.

**MbncMar** · 01-06-17 20:00

Look for the sweetest thing. She knows the deal and is a just a quick m&g. 150, zero tits, long legs, good BJ, likes rough play, and party favors are optional if that's your thing. I think she has some demons but nothing with needles. She's reliable. Share more please, I have more in the bank if others share positive ones.

**CigarFL** · 01-06-17 13:01

Originally Posted by CaptainKhan [View Original Post]

What is a "typical" arrangement / menu? I mean, what are these ladies seeking for what? A range would be good to know. I had one that asked if I could give her $500 per visit and I told her that was really way more than I'd ever expect to pay. I should have asked what was included for that price but I told her I had found someone for less than half that and I was quite pleased. She was alright looking in my book, not really my preference.

Can anyone post what they've paid and what they got for it? Is that allowed on here? If not, disregard.

I find it pretty easy to score full-service for up to two hours for $150 or less. I hate the old "numbers" scoring system, but I admit it is challenging to get the perfect 10 beauty queens for what I am paying. The thing is, if I have to make a choice I prefer great sex over just beauty. I have learned to play with the 6-7-8's and have spectacular sessions while spending as little as $100 and no more than $150. For sure, rates are higher in some areas, such as mid-town Manhattan. But I have generally found that my rates hold in a typical suburb or better yet, small college towns.

**YayaGogo** · 01-06-17 10:19

Originally Posted by Tomas247 [View Original Post]

I decided to use a template from the Richmond thread to talk to her. She didn't respond to well to the 5 steps LOL. By the time I got to the "Most girls are here for 1 of 3 reasons" part, she decided to block me and tell me I was a creepy and old (I'm early 30s).

"Well my dear, that just makes you sound more creepy. I just want to tell you that none of these girls, especially the young ones will like you for you. And the fact that you use this to meet young struggling girls just furthers my case of why you may interpret their desperation for "real chemistry". If we want to find an emotional and physical connection we date within our own age. Nobody wants to date an old man for fun.

Have a great life. ".

I've seen that template, but never used it myself for several reasons. Simply be yourself, show an interest in them, and *be friendly* and you'll get as many available girls as you can handle. An approach that might work on one girl won't work on the next, but there are so many to choose from that if you don't click in personality or finances then so what. Simply move on! I only pay for 30 days every 6 months or so, as in those 30 days there are more than enough to load up on phone numbers, chat, meet, and start something with for many months. Keep at it!

Yaya.

**CaptainKhan** · 01-05-17 22:33

Originally Posted by Tomas247 [View Original Post]

I decided to use a template from the Richmond thread to talk to her. She didn't respond to well to the 5 steps LOL. By the time I got to the "Most girls are here for 1 of 3 reasons" part, she decided to block me and tell me I was a creepy and old (I'm early 30s).

"Well my dear, that just makes you sound more creepy. I just want to tell you that none of these girls, especially the young ones will like you for you. And the fact that you use this to meet young struggling girls just furthers my case of why you may interpret their desperation for "real chemistry". If we want to find an emotional and physical connection we date within our own age. Nobody wants to date an old man for fun.

Have a great life. ".

I'd tell her the whole purpose of asking the questions is to weed out women with her attitude and that you have paid twice that much for the right baby and she ain't the right baby. She'll never find a "white whale" with that attitude. She should move her profile to BackPage where it belongs.

**Donatello** · 01-04-17 22:17

I wrote this one off months ago. There are several local girls like her who are clearly holding our for their "white whale. " And I'm sure a few of them will get it, and that's fine. There's probably a target demographic of men on this site that are happy to deal with the GPS crowd. More power to them, and I hope they are happy together. LOL.

Originally Posted by Tomas247 [View Original Post]

I decided to use a template from the Richmond thread to talk to her. She didn't respond to well to the 5 steps LOL. By the time I got to the "Most girls are here for 1 of 3 reasons" part, she decided to block me and tell me I was a creepy and old (I'm early 30s).

"Well my dear, that just makes you sound more creepy. I just want to tell you that none of these girls, especially the young ones will like you for you. And the fact that you use this to meet young struggling girls just furthers my case of why you may interpret their desperation for "real chemistry". If we want to find an emotional and physical connection we date within our own age. Nobody wants to date an old man for fun.

Have a great life. ".

**CaptainKhan** · 01-04-17 20:18

Originally Posted by Hummer5205 [View Original Post]

LOL. She told me she was getting 800 per meeting, I guess I sounded like a easier target.

What is a "typical" arrangement / menu? I mean, what are these ladies seeking for what? A range would be good to know. I had one that asked if I could give her $500 per visit and I told her that was really way more than I'd ever expect to pay. I should have asked what was included for that price but I told her I had found someone for less than half that and I was quite pleased. She was alright looking in my book, not really my preference.

Can anyone post what they've paid and what they got for it? Is that allowed on here? If not, disregard.

**Tomas247** · 01-04-17 19:42

Originally Posted by Hummer5205 [View Original Post]

LOL. She told me she was getting 800 per meeting, I guess I sounded like a easier target.

I decided to use a template from the Richmond thread to talk to her. She didn't respond to well to the 5 steps LOL. By the time I got to the "Most girls are here for 1 of 3 reasons" part, she decided to block me and tell me I was a creepy and old (I'm early 30s).

"Well my dear, that just makes you sound more creepy. I just want to tell you that none of these girls, especially the young ones will like you for you. And the fact that you use this to meet young struggling girls just furthers my case of why you may interpret their desperation for "real chemistry". If we want to find an emotional and physical connection we date within our own age. Nobody wants to date an old man for fun.

Have a great life. ".

**Hummer5205** · 01-04-17 14:05

Originally Posted by Tomas247 [View Original Post]

700 per meeting. I told her I could go see Pornstar Laura Bentley for less than that. GPS to the max.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...8-22794b7aac39

LOL. She told me she was getting 800 per meeting, I guess I sounded like a easier target.

**Tomas247** · 01-04-17 04:07

700 per meeting. I told her I could go see Pornstar Laura Bentley for less than that. GPS to the max.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...8-22794b7aac39

**Tomas247** · 01-04-17 04:05

I will do that. Actually, I never threw out those terms. I used a template that someone posted in the Richmond thread and explained that I was looking for cuddling, kissing, etc. It's really the same thing I guess, just not in monger language.

It seems to have worked on some, not on others. I probably won't renew my membership for a few months once it expires. Now that I've had a taste, I can do some more research, see what I can make happen with the connections I've already made, and go back in the future better prepared for the game.

Originally Posted by YayaGogo [View Original Post]

There are so many options out there right now, that I would advise that you get your feet wet by simply trying different approaches with different girls to see what works and what doesn't. The point of the site is to actually meet people, not just message them online, and girls will appreciate you taking charge and moving things along. Trust me on that. That said, most of the girls are normal girls and not pros. I would NOT suggest you throw out those terms. You both KNOW what the site is about, and being overt will scare many of the non pros away that would otherwise be with you. Lastly, if a girl does not want to chat outside of SA is fine (you should always get their contact info though for future use), but if you have had a few back and forth exchanges on what you're about and what you're looking for you should definitely set up and M&G and get to know each other in person.

Lastly, it's a numbers game. Don't be surprised if you get stood up a couple of times as these girls are young, skittish, and flaky. I like to confirm via text 1-2 hours before leaving that the meet is still on (has saved me from wasting my time more than once). Looking through the Richmond thread highlights was invaluable to me as I started, and I'm sure it will be for you. Good luck, and let us know how it goes!

Yaya.