The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

[YayaGogo]

Thanks yaya. I'm going to try! I find it kinda hard to just delve into the, I want DFK, BBBJ, CFS talk after only a few messages. I guess I need to just get over it and do it. But, the few that I didn't give a flip about, and just told them in message 2 what I was looking for have been rather receptive to it. This is a whole new ballgame for me, but I've been reading the threads, and a lot of stuff in the Richmond section. So much great info. I've just got to form it all together.

What do you do with the girls that don't want to transition from msg on SA? I've had a few that don't want to email / text?

There are so many options out there right now, that I would advise that you get your feet wet by simply trying different approaches with different girls to see what works and what doesn't. The point of the site is to actually meet people, not just message them online, and girls will appreciate you taking charge and moving things along. Trust me on that. That said, most of the girls are normal girls and not pros. I would NOT suggest you throw out those terms. You both KNOW what the site is about, and being overt will scare many of the non pros away that would otherwise be with you. Lastly, if a girl does not want to chat outside of SA is fine (you should always get their contact info though for future use), but if you have had a few back and forth exchanges on what you're about and what you're looking for you should definitely set up and M&G and get to know each other in person.

Lastly, it's a numbers game. Don't be surprised if you get stood up a couple of times as these girls are young, skittish, and flaky. I like to confirm via text 1-2 hours before leaving that the meet is still on (has saved me from wasting my time more than once). Looking through the Richmond thread highlights was invaluable to me as I started, and I'm sure it will be for you. Good luck, and let us know how it goes!

Yaya.

[YayaGogo]

Thanks yaya. I'm going to try! I find it kinda hard to just delve into the, I want DFK, BBBJ, CFS talk after only a few messages. I guess I need to just get over it and do it. But, the few that I didn't give a flip about, and just told them in message 2 what I was looking for have been rather receptive to it. This is a whole new ballgame for me, but I've been reading the threads, and a lot of stuff in the Richmond section. So much great info. I've just got to form it all together.

What do you do with the girls that don't want to transition from msg on SA? I've had a few that don't want to email / text?

There are so many options out there right now, that I would advise that you get your feet wet by simply trying different approaches with different girls to see what works and what doesn't. The point of the site is to actually meet people, not just message them online, and girls will appreciate you taking charge and moving things along. Trust me on that. That said, most of the girls are normal girls and not pros. I would NOT suggest you throw out those terms. You both KNOW what the site is about, and being overt will scare many of the non pros away that would otherwise be with you. Lastly, if a girl does not want to chat outside of SA is fine, but if you have had a few back and forth exchanges on what you're about and what you're looking for you should definitely set up and M&G and get to know each other in person.

Lastly, it's a numbers game. Don't be surprised if you get stood up a couple of times as these girls are young, skittish, and flaky. I like to confirm via text 1-2 hours before leaving that the meet is still on (has saved me from wasting my time more than once). Looking through the Richmond thread highlights was invaluable to me as I started, and I'm sure it will be for you. Good luck, and let us know how it goes!

Yaya.

[Tomas247]

Thanks yaya. I'm going to try! I find it kinda hard to just delve into the, I want DFK, BBBJ, CFS talk after only a few messages. I guess I need to just get over it and do it. But, the few that I didn't give a flip about, and just told them in message 2 what I was looking for have been rather receptive to it. This is a whole new ballgame for me, but I've been reading the threads, and a lot of stuff in the Richmond section. So much great info. I've just got to form it all together.

What do you do with the girls that don't want to transition from msg on SA? I've had a few that don't want to email / text?

Haven't corresponded with her, but if you've sent 80 messages back and forth then she's probably not pegged you as serious or just a window shopper, so she wants you to get moving one way or the other. I would cut that down to 3 or 4 exchanges then offer to meet in person to see if you have chemistry or at least take the convo to text or email. The added benefit of meeting in person is that she may bring down her $ expectations. I've also met two girls claiming to be virgins and one that had only had one other sexual experience. Happily closed the deal with two of the 3 for several months each. Good luck!

Yaya.

[Tomas247]

Yeah, the thrill of the chase is kinda fun. This girl hasn't appeared online for a few days now. I think she might seriously have some issues. I'm going to PM you.

Yes, I also have had a lot of back and forth with this one. She's apapparently just transfered here from another Uni. I had pegged her as another GPS girl, which has been my focus lately. Before I tended to stay away from them, thinking they had too unrealistic expectations. But then I decided to see how well I could convert a few and have had surprising success. I'd never justify 4-5 for a single encounter, but love when I can convince them to cut that # in half and look at a bigger picture.

[CaptainKhan]

Sounds awful. Sorry for that experience. However, your final 'YMMV' is the key. In your area, that's the deal. It's not the same everywhere. Unfortunately, I was 'sentenced' to 15 years in RTP for career reasons, and I left over a decade ago. It was a wasteland for single women in my estimation. Why should women there on SA be any different. In different parts of the country, all indications are that SA is a hotbed of the sort of women we mongers / SDs are looking for. I don't believe SA makes fake profiles. That is not to say others may put up fake profiles. Even many SDs do this as a means of monitoring the babies they are pursuing. So don't be the POT calling the kettle black (pun). Be careful out there. Anyone you meet on the internet could be a scammer or hostile, and certainly SA has no real means of policing this. I have had a couple of tense moments w / women I met on SA on the west Coast. Fortunately, I protected myself and was not vulnerable to any ongoing pressure.

Appreciate your feedback and this may be the case for this area but most of this area is populated by more people from around the country than actually were born and raised here. Whether SA puts up fake profiles or not, I'm going to disagree with you on that. All the online dating sites do it, even the free ones. Fake could be a willing woman who gets paid as a "content writer. " They're paid to appear not fake. Not only that, they have more profiles of women that haven't signed in over 6+ months than those that have recently signed in. Most of those could be former "content writers. " After the hack of AshMad and the news reports that the majority of profiles were indeed fake, fake, fake, fake is there really any question that other dating sites don't do it too. It's all an illusion.

The bottom line for me is, SA isn't necessary to find a sugar baby if one approaches it the right way and based on my experience, not as safe, with scammers, unrealistic, indecisive girls / women running amok on the site, not to mention the ridiculous monthly fee and time wasted for little return. Again, YMMV.

Lastly, I would never be the POT calling the kettle black. I used my real picture. I'm single, never married, no kids. I have nothing to hide. I'm just trying to practice liberty in the land of the "free" without getting scammed or robbed.

[YayaGogo]

Haven't corresponded with her, but if you've sent 80 messages back and forth then she's probably not pegged you as serious or just a window shopper, so she wants you to get moving one way or the other. I would cut that down to 3 or 4 exchanges then offer to meet in person to see if you have chemistry or at least take the convo to text or email. The added benefit of meeting in person is that she may bring down her $ expectations. I've also met two girls claiming to be virgins and one that had only had one other sexual experience. Happily closed the deal with two of the 3 for several months each. Good luck!

Yaya.

Anyone have any experience with this chick?

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...d-36eb385a7365

I think she's cute as hell. We've sent 80 or more messages just talking, but she seems a bit strange and now is saying she's thinking about deleting her acct bc she's never had a SD, and she's not sure it's for her.

I told her straight up to delete her acct if she wants to, that's her call. If I didn't find her so damn cute (I'm partial to asians), I'd just stop even trying.

I told her that her expectations were also a bit excessive. Was asking for $ $$$ or $ $$$$ for a short block of time, then I told her for that I could easily find other options for far less and she seemed intrigued. She also thinks that all the guys on this site are extremely wealthy, so I was trying to get her to take her blinders off LOL.

And this one is claiming to be a virgin. I'm almost inclined to believe her.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/9ae8b099-8619-4fbd-bce3-e60031332100

[FarFarAway]

Sounds awful. Sorry for that experience. However, your final 'YMMV' is the key. In your area, that's the deal. It's not the same everywhere. Unfortunately, I was 'sentenced' to 15 years in RTP for career reasons, and I left over a decade ago. It was a wasteland for single women in my estimation. Why should women there on SA be any different. In different parts of the country, all indications are that SA is a hotbed of the sort of women we mongers / SDs are looking for. I don't believe SA makes fake profiles. That is not to say others may put up fake profiles. Even many SDs do this as a means of monitoring the babies they are pursuing. So don't be the POT calling the kettle black (pun). Be careful out there. Anyone you meet on the internet could be a scammer or hostile, and certainly SA has no real means of policing this. I have had a couple of tense moments w / women I met on SA on the west Coast. Fortunately, I protected myself and was not vulnerable to any ongoing pressure.

I joined for a month. Actually, I created an account before I joined to read messages. Instantly, I received a fake bait profile message from a 20-year old cutie wearing an NC State sweatshirt. Of course, I couldn't read the message without paying to join. I got a couple of other messages, so, I said what the hell, lets see what this is all about. The one with the NC State cutie message was; "Hello! How are you!" I replied as a gentleman. Never got another message from her and it appears she never signed back in her account the remainder of the time I was a member.

Next, I got a message from a hot blonde. Watch out for her. She tried to have her brotha coke dealer / pimps follow me home after I met her. We only met as a meet and greet. I gave her a small Christmas gift. I'm not sure all of her pictures are actually her. Something is not right. She's probably a coke * and uses the site to rob people. I'd love to set her up and bust her with LE. Always be mindful that you're being set-up. The guys that tried to follow me aren't bright but probably dangerous. I caught them, they know I caught them and got their license plate number. They peeled off abruptly.

I sent messages to other many other women. Most want insane money. $$ just to meet, have dinner. ROFLMAO! I told them I could walk up to any woman I desired and make that offer and I'd find one in 10 minutes. I don't need to meet anyone online for that money. I had a couple, after pleasant texting that were all set and ready, then cancelled at the last minute. After the third time of that crap, I said I need to cut my losses of time.

Many of these women have children with no baby daddy paying child support. If their profile says, "Prefer Not to Say" in the part that ask whether they have children, it means they have children. Also, I think many of these women have daddy issues (real daddy, not sugar daddy.).

The site is chock full of fake profiles. I'm sure many are created by the site itself despite their claim they do everything they can to prevent or take down fake profiles. They want to give the illusion they have all these women but they don't and the ones that are real are jokes and a waste of time. I'm sure some aren't and guys have had success but I'm convinced that's the exception, not the rule.

I think you could be more successful striking-up a conversation with a woman and cleverly steer the conversation that you're a willing sugar daddy. I have no doubt you could make an arrangement because many single women would entertain the idea if approached correctly. You don't need to pay anyone to meet them online.

Let me say this too. I'm not an ugly guy. I get complimented by women all the time. I enjoy being single and prefer a variety of women. I do not have any desire to legally and financially commit myself to a woman through marriage, particularly with NC divorce laws. I don't want to be a dog. I have no problem paying for it because that is how it's worked in one form or another since the beginning of civilized man. After my experience on SA, I think it's better to be a lying dog. Being a lying dog is not illegal and you don't have to deal with a sorry selection of insane, damaged, scamming, indecisive women on the likes of SA. YMMV.

[CaptainKhan]

I joined for a month. Actually, I created an account before I joined to read messages. Instantly, I received a fake bait profile message from a 20-year old cutie wearing an NC State sweatshirt. Of course, I couldn't read the message without paying to join. I got a couple of other messages, so, I said what the hell, lets see what this is all about. The one with the NC State cutie message was; "Hello! How are you!" I replied as a gentleman. Never got another message from her and it appears she never signed back in her account the remainder of the time I was a member.

Next, I got a message from a hot blonde. Watch out for her. She tried to have her brotha coke dealer / pimps follow me home after I met her. We only met as a meet and greet. I gave her a small Christmas gift. I'm not sure all of her pictures are actually her. Something is not right. She's probably a coke * and uses the site to rob people. I'd love to set her up and bust her with LE. Always be mindful that you're being set-up. The guys that tried to follow me aren't bright but probably dangerous. I caught them, they know I caught them and got their license plate number. They peeled off abruptly.

I sent messages to other many other women. Most want insane money. $$ just to meet, have dinner. ROFLMAO! I told them I could walk up to any woman I desired and make that offer and I'd find one in 10 minutes. I don't need to meet anyone online for that money. I had a couple, after pleasant texting that were all set and ready, then cancelled at the last minute. After the third time of that crap, I said I need to cut my losses of time.

Many of these women have children with no baby daddy paying child support. If their profile says, "Prefer Not to Say" in the part that ask whether they have children, it means they have children. Also, I think many of these women have daddy issues (real daddy, not sugar daddy.).

The site is chock full of fake profiles. I'm sure many are created by the site itself despite their claim they do everything they can to prevent or take down fake profiles. They want to give the illusion they have all these women but they don't and the ones that are real are jokes and a waste of time. I'm sure some aren't and guys have had success but I'm convinced that's the exception, not the rule.

I think you could be more successful striking-up a conversation with a woman and cleverly steer the conversation that you're a willing sugar daddy. I have no doubt you could make an arrangement because many single women would entertain the idea if approached correctly. You don't need to pay anyone to meet them online.

Let me say this too. I'm not an ugly guy. I get complimented by women all the time. I enjoy being single and prefer a variety of women. I do not have any desire to legally and financially commit myself to a woman through marriage, particularly with NC divorce laws. I don't want to be a dog. I have no problem paying for it because that is how it's worked in one form or another since the beginning of civilized man. After my experience on SA, I think it's better to be a lying dog. Being a lying dog is not illegal and you don't have to deal with a sorry selection of insane, damaged, scamming, indecisive women on the likes of SA. YMMV.

[Donatello]

Yes, I also have had a lot of back and forth with this one. She's apapparently just transfered here from another Uni. I had pegged her as another GPS girl, which has been my focus lately. Before I tended to stay away from them, thinking they had too unrealistic expectations. But then I decided to see how well I could convert a few and have had surprising success. I'd never justify 4-5 for a single encounter, but love when I can convince them to cut that # in half and look at a bigger picture.

Anyone have any experience with this chick?

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...d-36eb385a7365

I think she's cute as hell. We've sent 80 or more messages just talking, but she seems a bit strange and now is saying she's thinking about deleting her acct bc she's never had a SD, and she's not sure it's for her.

I told her straight up to delete her acct if she wants to, that's her call. If I didn't find her so damn cute (I'm partial to asians), I'd just stop even trying.

I told her that her expectations were also a bit excessive. Was asking for $ $$$ or $ $$$$ for a short block of time, then I told her for that I could easily find other options for far less and she seemed intrigued. She also thinks that all the guys on this site are extremely wealthy, so I was trying to get her to take her blinders off LOL.

[John HandCock]

Anyone have any experience with this chick?

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...d-36eb385a7365

I think she's cute as hell. We've sent 80 or more messages just talking, but she seems a bit strange and now is saying she's thinking about deleting her acct bc she's never had a SD, and she's not sure it's for her.

I told her straight up to delete her acct if she wants to, that's her call. If I didn't find her so damn cute (I'm partial to asians), I'd just stop even trying.

I told her that her expectations were also a bit excessive. Was asking for $ $$$ or $ $$$$ for a short block of time, then I told her for that I could easily find other options for far less and she seemed intrigued. She also thinks that all the guys on this site are extremely wealthy, so I was trying to get her to take her blinders off LOL.

And this one is claiming to be a virgin. I'm almost inclined to believe her.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/9ae8b099-8619-4fbd-bce3-e60031332100

Alot of girls put up a profile and figure out later that its not for them. It happens. Girls also look at what you list as income and if its healthy then they don't understand why a guy is balking or try to negotiate what should be a few bucks for them. I alzo ran into one who claimed to be a virgin but that term means something else to the younger generation. This Virgin had done every act know except was saving the vagina for mr right.

[Tomas247]

Anyone have any experience with this chick?

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...d-36eb385a7365

I think she's cute as hell. We've sent 80 or more messages just talking, but she seems a bit strange and now is saying she's thinking about deleting her acct bc she's never had a SD, and she's not sure it's for her.

I told her straight up to delete her acct if she wants to, that's her call. If I didn't find her so damn cute (I'm partial to asians), I'd just stop even trying.

I told her that her expectations were also a bit excessive. Was asking for $ $$$ or $ $$$$ for a short block of time, then I told her for that I could easily find other options for far less and she seemed intrigued. She also thinks that all the guys on this site are extremely wealthy, so I was trying to get her to take her blinders off LOL.

And this one is claiming to be a virgin. I'm almost inclined to believe her.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/9ae8b099-8619-4fbd-bce3-e60031332100

[FarFarAway]

I've talked to more hotties in the last 5 days than I have in years. This site is pretty awesome. Who knows if any of these will pan out, but I've got several prospects right now. And random ones hitting up my inbox on the daily.

I'm trying to learn as I go. I might be doing this all wrong right now, but it's fun at least.

You need to go to the Richmond, VA thread on here and look for 'Highlights' - its an archive of everything you ever want to know about being a SD, and using SA.

[BigPackFan]

I've talked to more hotties in the last 5 days than I have in years. This site is pretty awesome. Who knows if any of these will pan out, but I've got several prospects right now. And random ones hitting up my inbox on the daily.

I'm trying to learn as I go. I might be doing this all wrong right now, but it's fun at least.

It's the time of the season. They need Christmas money. I've been off the site for a month or so but have an inbox full of messages that I'm not sure I want to pay to read.

[Tomas247]

I've talked to more hotties in the last 5 days than I have in years. This site is pretty awesome. Who knows if any of these will pan out, but I've got several prospects right now. And random ones hitting up my inbox on the daily.

I'm trying to learn as I go. I might be doing this all wrong right now, but it's fun at least.

[YayaGogo]

So I joined SA just to check it out. I already have a few messages but I have not paid for premium. . 8 for one month? Am I missing something here? Is it really worth that? Is there a way to read messages without paying? And as far as posting a picture, are you guys using your actual picture? I just can't seem to bring myself to put my pic up for fear someone will see it that knows me.

I suggest you upload any pictures you may have as private. That way you control who gets to see them and who doesn't. IMO it is totally worth the fee to get access. I suggest you message any and all that interest you as it is a numbers game. Also suggest you take your communication off the site (such as text or email) after a few messages have been exchanged so that you have a way of contacting them after your month has expired. Good luck, and let us know how it goes!

Yaya.