The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

[Tomas247]

So I joined SA just to check it out. I already have a few messages but I have not paid for premium. . 8 for one month? Am I missing something here? Is it really worth that? Is there a way to read messages without paying? And as far as posting a picture, are you guys using your actual picture? I just can't seem to bring myself to put my pic up for fear someone will see it that knows me.

I put my picture up in the private, but I won't post it publicly. You have to pay to send messages. There's no way around it.

The first month is $54, so I figured I'd try it, see where it gets me, and if nowhere, then I'll cancel. I don't know if I have the charm or the game for this side of the hobby LOL. Should be an interesting month trying to feel it out.

[Hummer5205]

So I joined SA just to check it out. I already have a few messages but I have not paid for premium. . 8 for one month? Am I missing something here? Is it really worth that? Is there a way to read messages without paying? And as far as posting a picture, are you guys using your actual picture? I just can't seem to bring myself to put my pic up for fear someone will see it that knows me.

I paid for premium and would have to say, YES it's worth it. I have NOT posted a picture and have had a couple of meetings already and several other offers. Some are just crazy with their asking price, but others I have found are very reasonable. They almost all do ask for a picture, but even when I have provided one, I have blurred my face.

[JRoy12]

So I joined SA just to check it out. I already have a few messages but I have not paid for premium. . 8 for one month? Am I missing something here? Is it really worth that? Is there a way to read messages without paying? And as far as posting a picture, are you guys using your actual picture? I just can't seem to bring myself to put my pic up for fear someone will see it that knows me.

[Tomas247]

First message I receive after joining SA premium. Just wow.

"What do you look like why would you hide your face unless you realize your very ugly".

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...5-9ddcbc51589e

[Hummer5205]

Is this the girl from Dunn that others were discussing earlier this year? Has anyone had any dealings with her? Been talking with her, no red flags so far, but wanted to see if anyone had already tried.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...2-bf6911a21fb1

[YayaGogo]

Ok, thank you guys for the feedback. It sounds like SA is real but less efficient, though possibly a good source for UTR if I am willing to do a little ground work. So next question; has anyone found a refillable credit card that can be used on this site? Most cards say no international purchases.

I've always used the AMEX Serve (I think it's called that) card. You can get it at any CVS (maybe Walgreens). It's prepaid at the register, so you will need to know the $ amount you want to upload before you buy. There is no fee to buy the card, it's anonymous for online transactions, and you can just throw it away after the transaction / purchase. The last time I tried to use it I had to contact SA support and give them the card info, which they cleared in 24 hours. Good luck, and let us know how it worked out!

Yaya.

[MrNCbob]

Ok, thank you guys for the feedback. It sounds like SA is real but less efficient, though possibly a good source for UTR if I am willing to do a little ground work. So next question; has anyone found a refillable credit card that can be used on this site? Most cards say no international purchases.

[John HandCock]

I have been away from the Hobby but the break allowed me to reflect. With all the risk of BP, I am considering SA. But it sounds like a lot of effort. I don't have a lot of time to be meeting and screening. I also don't have extra large amounts of cash. So my first question for the group is; how much time / effort are you putting into this and would it be better to go for angencies if my time is limited?

Second question; about how much should one expect to shell out for most encounters? I don't want to insult anyone.

Third; do I need to include a photo? I simply can't do that.

Final Question; how many ads are real? I checked out AM and ALL the profiles seemed fake to me, it was soooo obvious, especially when popular porn stars are featured, along with corny names all with with sex innuendo. And I think there was a revelation of people hired just to write fake profiles. SA free membership allows me to see basic info, it does not seem as fake. AF seems a bit fake. What is your experience with the truth in advertising?

Sorry for long post but thanks for info. I got into this hoping to find a few regulars I could get to know, like FWB, but that seems impossible with all the inconsistencies of BP gals. With tips, angencies would get expensive, with very limited time for the $.

You will find plenty of utr and pros on SA. Go for them and that cuts your time and screenings down. The cost will be determined by what your looking for but plenty in the BP range. As far as a photo write a good profile as to what your looking for. That goes along way. I have never used a photo and have plenty of responses. Pic can be sent when you get to texting phase. Send a recent pic when you do. You will be able to sort out the worki g girls from the real deal pretty fast.

[Donatello]

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...5-96022f725d3c

Got his from her.

"I don't see Indians for less than 2000 per visit. ".

I had emailed a bit with her. Was quoted 500. Generally if I'm getting pricing when I don't even show a pic, I assume she's an UTR "pro" and opt out!

[PghGuy2005]

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...5-96022f725d3c

Got his from her.

"I don't see Indians for less than 2000 per visit. ".

[YayaGogo]

I have been away from the Hobby but the break allowed me to reflect. With all the risk of BP, I am considering SA. But it sounds like a lot of effort. I don't have a lot of time to be meeting and screening. I also don't have extra large amounts of cash. So my first question for the group is; how much time / effort are you putting into this and would it be better to go for angencies if my time is limited?

Second question; about how much should one expect to shell out for most encounters? I don't want to insult anyone.

Third; do I need to include a photo? I simply can't do that.

Final Question; how many ads are real? I checked out AM and ALL the profiles seemed fake to me, it was soooo obvious, especially when popular porn stars are featured, along with corny names all with with sex innuendo. And I think there was a revelation of people hired just to write fake profiles. SA free membership allows me to see basic info, it does not seem as fake. AF seems a bit fake. What is your experience with the truth in advertising?

Sorry for long post but thanks for info. I got into this hoping to find a few regulars I could get to know, like FWB, but that seems impossible with all the inconsistencies of BP gals. With tips, angencies would get expensive, with very limited time for the $.

If your time and funds are limited and you aren't planning to post a picture, then you shouldn't start this to be honest. The vast majority of the girls are very real, but it will take time for you to sort through profiles, send messages back and forth, and meet with them to see how compatible you both are. As most aren't pros, they will need to feel a connection with you in order to start things, so many won't entertain meeting someone that won't even post a picture of themselves. I post real photos of myself in the private area and give permission to view only to those that I'm interested in meeting. As far as cost, it really depends on the girl, but think of $$ to $$ per meet for most of them (per meet meaning multiple hours) some will ask for less / more but it's up to you to find those and negotiate. Good luck!

[MrNCbob]

I have been away from the Hobby but the break allowed me to reflect. With all the risk of BP, I am considering SA. But it sounds like a lot of effort. I don't have a lot of time to be meeting and screening. I also don't have extra large amounts of cash. So my first question for the group is; how much time / effort are you putting into this and would it be better to go for angencies if my time is limited?

Second question; about how much should one expect to shell out for most encounters? I don't want to insult anyone.

Third; do I need to include a photo? I simply can't do that.

Final Question; how many ads are real? I checked out AM and ALL the profiles seemed fake to me, it was soooo obvious, especially when popular porn stars are featured, along with corny names all with with sex innuendo. And I think there was a revelation of people hired just to write fake profiles. SA free membership allows me to see basic info, it does not seem as fake. AF seems a bit fake. What is your experience with the truth in advertising?

Sorry for long post but thanks for info. I got into this hoping to find a few regulars I could get to know, like FWB, but that seems impossible with all the inconsistencies of BP gals. With tips, angencies would get expensive, with very limited time for the $.

[YayaGogo]

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...c-3359dd7a1638

I've recently met with this one (M / G) and she seems fun and genuine. Am considering her for a LT SB. Something on the back of my mind is nagging at me and I don't know what it is though. I swear I've seen her tattoo (below clavicle) before somewhere. If anyone has any information they wish to share, PM me or post here before I pull the trigger! Thanks!

Yaya.

[StormyTuesday]

I decided to try SA out and found a SB that wanted to meet. We have already set up an arrangement.

She does not have transportation and she wants me to visit her home (not to pick her up and go to a hotel but have our fun there at a place that is near a rough part of Durham County).

I asked her a question about being an adult 18 or over, old enough to consent and she told me I was being weird (but never answered the question). I informed her that was a question designed for her safety and mines because a stranger is coming to her resident (where she says she will be alone) and I wanted to ensure she was of legal age because while she is sexy and her profile says she is 18.she looks young (and she never answered the question, she talked around the question, "you will see when you get here that I'm an adult".

What should I do? Just go to the meet and then request her I'd before we get into anything?

I have met with several SBs claiming to be 18. I typically ask them to show me a picture I'd. One of my current SBs who is 19 now started on SA 2 months prior to her 18th birthday. I know this because I have been with her for over a year and know her birthdate and know when she started out on SA.

[DirtyDeeds38]

MrCoop,

You may receive varying answers on this, but let me give you my opinion. I've been a SD for over two years, and regardless of how horny I am, how desperate they are, or the favor-ability of the pre-meet conversation. I always (ALWAYS) without exception meet on neutral ground. It is easy to think about the safety of the SB, however, your safety is FAR more imperative here. You are the "money' man, and everyone knows it.

I feel so strongly about this, that I have refused to meet a couple of dozen SBs due to this self-imposed rule of mine. You have to view yourself as a potential target with any SB. My rule is very simple; first meeting in a public place, or no meet at all. SBs come and go. Not to sound harsh here, but there's an unlimited amount of them at your disposal. Never (ever) lose your upper hand inside the Sugar Bowl.

Cheers: Thresh.

Great advise! I would add to this, might seem a little extreme, but record your encounters and text them about what they expect, want, and get followup communications as well. Put nothing past these girls. Many are indeed sweet, many are, or will become very jaded if you do not desire to continue seeing them. I have once been attempted to be extorted. I sent her the recording of the entire night and told her one more word and I was contacting the police. She apologized beyond my expectations. Freaked her out. And this was a girl I only met with, had a few drinks with and talked with. No sex, no intimacy. I had given her a nice gift even though we did not engage in intimacy as I liked her. All an act. A few days later I start getting texts how she is in trouble needs cash for XYZ. I wouldn't bite and she than just outright asked for the money. I said no, I do not do that. Then she starts texting me threats and she will find out if I have a wife or kids, and tell them what I am doing, meeting girls. I told her to go ahead, I'm single, nothing wrong with dating women. LOL. Then she said, "I'll tell everyone what happened. " I screenshot all her texts and sent them to her, along with a file of the entire night being recorded. She started apologizing and begging me not to report her. LOL.

I'm nice to any girl I meet. Very nice, just my nature and often times that is confused with weakness by these girls and attempts to take advantage. Once they start doing that, I will be come firm and stand my ground and most respect this and respond well.

A lot of these girls are not stable mentally. Sorry to be blunt, but they just aren't. They likely would never be on the site if they were. That is just a fact. I've dated a few very nice and fun girls, but at the end of the day, they were just so off and gave me the sense, they could turn psycho at any moment.

You cannot be too careful.