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  1. #3816

    She and her boyfriend / pimp tried to rob me once

    Quote Originally Posted by CGuy2  [View Original Post]
    I was looking for a quick dream in the car. A French lesson was going to be the focus of the dream. Had seen her ad on several sites. I was going to be near Addison and the Kennedy. Texted to set up. We met on side street. What was walking towards car was a skeleton with scabs all over face. From 20' away was just scary. Big head put car in gear and we left. Use number 312-478-xxxx.
    They sadly underestimated me. Be careful out there.

  2. #3815
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    Posts: 184

    Do not do it. Avoid

    I was looking for a quick dream in the car. A French lesson was going to be the focus of the dream. Had seen her ad on several sites. I was going to be near Addison and the Kennedy. Texted to set up. We met on side street. What was walking towards car was a skeleton with scabs all over face. From 20' away was just scary. Big head put car in gear and we left. Use number 312-478-xxxx.
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  3. #3814
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    Posts: 257
    Quote Originally Posted by CoolPatrick  [View Original Post]
    First up, I am unlikely to meet these two NOLA girls during their visit due to my work schedule. But upon my research after seeing their TER ads, I believe they are solid. Use my post with caution and do your own research if you want to meet either of them.

    Gemma http://curvaceouscompanion.com/ ; http://www.preferred411.com/P222444; TER 288905.

    Audrey http://www.audreyamour.com/ ; http://www.preferred411.com/P209602; TER 295887.

    Gemma is $350 per hour, $100 additional for pics and videos, doesn't explicitly list Greek lesson pricing but it was offered and mentioned repeatedly in reviews. Having a female condom options for clients is a very good sign too: you can cover up to speak greek and then take it off to enter back to you know where within a second. Additionally, Gemma has a active FetLife profile, she not only uses FetLife for cam girl and escort marketing but also actually uses it for her real life kinky needs.

    Audrey is thinner with a body generally more of my taste, $400 an hour. Typical GFE menu. These two do doubles together.

    If I have the time I would try to meet Gemma, because of lower price, more items on menu, and cuter face. She is not my typical thin or spinner type. Gemma is cuter for me, although she is curvier, not really "fat" fat, the boobs and booty plus the cute face make me want to see her if she visit Chicago again or when I have a chance to visit NOLA.

    If you love booty and / or decent big boobs, Gemma may fit your interest.

    Both are in town during 12/8-12/13
    I saw Gemma last year when she was working with chicagocovergirls while visiting.

    She was a great time for sure. Great body, great performance and great personality.

  4. #3813

    Audrey Amour and Gemma Paradise from NOLA

    First up, I am unlikely to meet these two NOLA girls during their visit due to my work schedule. But upon my research after seeing their TER ads, I believe they are solid. Use my post with caution and do your own research if you want to meet either of them.

    Gemma http://curvaceouscompanion.com/ ; http://www.preferred411.com/P222444; TER 288905.

    Audrey http://www.audreyamour.com/ ; http://www.preferred411.com/P209602; TER 295887.

    Gemma is $350 per hour, $100 additional for pics and videos, doesn't explicitly list Greek lesson pricing but it was offered and mentioned repeatedly in reviews. Having a female condom options for clients is a very good sign too: you can cover up to speak greek and then take it off to enter back to you know where within a second. Additionally, Gemma has a active FetLife profile, she not only uses FetLife for cam girl and escort marketing but also actually uses it for her real life kinky needs.

    Audrey is thinner with a body generally more of my taste, $400 an hour. Typical GFE menu. These two do doubles together.

    If I have the time I would try to meet Gemma, because of lower price, more items on menu, and cuter face. She is not my typical thin or spinner type. Gemma is cuter for me, although she is curvier, not really "fat" fat, the boobs and booty plus the cute face make me want to see her if she visit Chicago again or when I have a chance to visit NOLA.

    If you love booty and / or decent big boobs, Gemma may fit your interest.

    Both are in town during 12/8-12/13

  5. #3812

    Kaitlyn Knight-recommend

    Visited with Kaitlyn (https://www.preferred411.com/P153345) today. Nice girl, clean and fun, good time, young spinner with a great attitude and skills. And a cute little voice too. 3 $ for an hour, plus $1 for 10 minvideo. She is also greek friendly for $ upcharge too. Visits regularly, near O'Hare through tomorrow.

  6. #3811
    She was delisted from the other site in early Oct. Have no idea whose idea it was. I happened to catch a thread where she had a beef with them over a review. They disagreed and she all but dared them to get rid of her. Complained about reviews in general. Boom she was gone.

    Perhaps to work at the agency again they insisted that she take down her independent personna. She was very complimentary of her old agency in a couple of agency threads. Smart enough not to burn bridges.

    She also was complaining about not making the kind of money ladies were supposedly making 10 years earlier. There are any number of demographic and economic reasons for that. I don't see how she is going to make that nut with the agency split from a lesser rate. Her tone in ads, threads and website continued to grow more strident regarding time wasters / NCNS in specific and clients in general. Just didn't like the vibe shegave off so I never tried to set anything up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chicago41  [View Original Post]
    The oThER site doesn't delete escort profiles unless they say they are being stalked or they are retiring. If she was just moving to an agency, they would edit the existing profile.

    She probably went back to the agency because her attitude is horrible and it comes through in her endless complaining on Twitter and elsewhere. She is not that hot, frankly. By the way, she tones down her attitude when using her escorting name. She has an alias on oThER site that does nothing but spew negativity and call absolutely everyone "time wasters". If you can't figure out who I'm talking about PM me and I'll share. I would never spend anything close to what little miss attitude charges and I guess enough people felt the same way that she needs the agency's resources to get business.

  7. #3810

    Both pretty hot!

    They're both pretty hot, but my nod goes to Jennifer for my taste. With that said, their pics seems too commercialized and makes me reluctant to believe they are genuine. Let us know if you find out otherwise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chigod7  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone dipped there candy in this little sweet box?

    She looks like a tasty cherry!

    I called her and she mostly does txt, wouldn't answer if she was LE.

    Wouldn't meet me outside or in the lobby.

    Wouldn't send me a naked pic with the news or weather on to prove the time and date.

    Her excuse for that was, I don't send naked pics. WTF? Your add is naked.

    I say this was LE, but LE doesn't post naked pics.

    http://chicago.backpage.com/FemaleEs...ymore/41398922

  8. #3809

    It's fair to ask for all those for service price at the higher level

    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8  [View Original Post]
    At that price point, for me it's a lot more than just the physical. The attitude, personality, background (can she hold an enjoyable conversation, what hobbies does she like, does she have culture) attention to detail, and other aspects of being attractive comes in to play. But hey, that's just me.
    This is definitely not just you. These are the parameters that separates and those charges $200-$250 or less per hour from those charging $300 or more per hour. At least this is my cutoff point, which is consistent of the BP vs TER, RS-AVS, P411 in Chicago. While the encounter is always YMMV and never really gurantee, people generally expect more and service being more consistent. At all price levels, you can find those excels and those who sucks at it. Like I said, different price levels means different clientele and different expectations.

    There is a Chinese idiom which can be loosely translated to "your heart will change your appearance." I believe if you have a kind heart, your appearance will reflect that and make it even better.

    Seems like Violet shut down her Twitter and website for now. But many of her tweets are still out there because she did receive good support from Twitter whenever she had an upset tweet about her job / business and client. As you know, digial traces are always there, which is why I try to be as fair and polite and nice as possible when I post any comment with some critique in it.

    Thanks for those who read my post and PM me. I'm very glad about the like-minded support, just let me know that we are also just normal people inside and outside of the hobby.

  9. #3808

    Jennifer Candy hotel near water tower

    Has anyone dipped there candy in this little sweet box?

    She looks like a tasty cherry!

    I called her and she mostly does txt, wouldn't answer if she was LE.

    Wouldn't meet me outside or in the lobby.

    Wouldn't send me a naked pic with the news or weather on to prove the time and date.

    Her excuse for that was, I don't send naked pics. WTF? Your add is naked.

    I say this was LE, but LE doesn't post naked pics.

    http://chicago.backpage.com/FemaleEs...ymore/41398922

  10. #3807

    Agreed. Not that hot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chicago41  [View Original Post]
    The oThER site doesn't delete escort profiles unless they say they are being stalked or they are retiring. If she was just moving to an agency, they would edit the existing profile.

    She probably went back to the agency because her attitude is horrible and it comes through in her endless complaining on Twitter and elsewhere. She is not that hot, frankly. By the way, she tones down her attitude when using her escorting name. She has an alias on oThER site that does nothing but spew negativity and call absolutely everyone "time wasters". If you can't figure out who I'm talking about PM me and I'll share. I would never spend anything close to what little miss attitude charges and I guess enough people felt the same way that she needs the agency's resources to get business.
    At that price point, for me it's a lot more than just the physical. The attitude, personality, background (can she hold an enjoyable conversation, what hobbies does she like, does she have culture) attention to detail, and other aspects of being attractive comes in to play. But hey, that's just me.

  11. #3806
    Quote Originally Posted by CoolPatrick  [View Original Post]
    Why would any store start mark down the price of items it is selling? I guess she took down her own Violet TER profile because of Michelle's. Funny she took and tweeted a bunch of TER review screenshots to show how good her reviews were, and there was one explicitedly said 'Violet / Melanie' was blah blah.
    The oThER site doesn't delete escort profiles unless they say they are being stalked or they are retiring. If she was just moving to an agency, they would edit the existing profile.

    She probably went back to the agency because her attitude is horrible and it comes through in her endless complaining on Twitter and elsewhere. She is not that hot, frankly. By the way, she tones down her attitude when using her escorting name. She has an alias on oThER site that does nothing but spew negativity and call absolutely everyone "time wasters". If you can't figure out who I'm talking about PM me and I'll share. I would never spend anything close to what little miss attitude charges and I guess enough people felt the same way that she needs the agency's resources to get business.

  12. #3805

    More about Violet / Melanie

    Quote Originally Posted by Asps3  [View Original Post]
    She mentioned there posts on her Twitter just a bit ago. She obviously is aware of the site and not happy about it.
    Funny thing about Twitter is that, you can use it like Obama or Trump, it's your Twitter. But whether your usage generates the goals and perception you want is another story.

    1. When I said tracking for fun, it means I'm interested in seeing for the fun hobby activity. Everyone's life is busy and I always plan ahead. I track the providers I want to see and know their online spaces to find their information and schedule. No need to stalk anyone for adult stuff giving all the free porns out there. Interesting to see she immediately considers this is stalking.

    2. I share her pricing change as intel because it's toward our benefit. Violet / Melanie can be tired of handling logistics for the extra $, or she is willing to pay agency the fair share to avoid hassles. Or the market slows down or whatever. It's a good news for those interested in seeing her (myself included). Regardless whatever 'bad' reviews are out there, there are always people would want to see the girl (think Jack Shack). There are always 'heroes' thinking they can do better than the guy who posted. So, my posts could still bring attention or even business to her. Publicity is publicity.

    3. I never said what attitude she demonstrates in the first post. And I actually appreciate Violet's attitude to some extent: she hates time-wasters and rude and impolite communication and she only wants to talk business and money. These are not bad things at all. I like that because it won't give hobbyists illusions. Knowing her parameters in advance may help people set the right tone when communicating with her, it worked for me and it's not necessarily a negative criticism on her.

    4. When I contacted her, I was verified first because I did want to meet her and conduct business. But the timing did not work out. Then I asked about twitter, she explained the general stalky feeling that hobbyist following rarely turn into business. It's understandable, I don't think I push further to be unblocked and thought I'd ask again when I meet her for real. Being judgmental or Benjamin focused are not really a negative thing in this business, she understandably needs to protect herself and deal with weird dudes.

    5. HERE is the IRONY, on the one hand, she doesn't like to be bothered by direct communication via email, PM or text; on the other hand, she doesn't like to be followed passively on Twitter if hobbyists are just following her without intention to meet her. Based on my profession, I'd say, her way of using Twitter is not effective especially if she likes to block people left and right. I followed her because she posted her schedule in the past. Yes, her pics are really nice and can raise my interest more, but I rarely check her updates. I mainly want to have a faster way to know if she is available without having to email her every time I may have a couple hours during the day for fun, which is also against her communication policy listed on her site. You never know whether a follower may turn into business in a day, a week, a month, or a year.

    6. Yet, Twitter, personal website, review sites, verification sites are all her business tools. Other indy providers tend to advertise on verification sites or TER their schedule regularly if they don't use Twitter. Those (Think Sierra Benjamin) who use Twitter may release their schedule on Twitter and play with follower count and just embrace the nature of Twitter to their advantage and not alienating fans / followers / potential customers / LEOs / weirdoes. After all, you have other means to verify people during scheduling. Follower count is still an indicator of your reach, assuming you already rule out the bots and spammers.

    7. I believe my first post was written as neutral as possible, and I apologize to her (or the reader / regular / agent who points this to her) about my second post with a bit more opinion about the way she handles business. My mention about Dallas is to point out that providers have to do a lot more for less given their market even for a total sweetheart. She is hot and sexy and got a little bit of everything that works for every taste and $500/ hr reaches a different clientele than $350/ hr. Obviously she has demands.

    8. I repeat: I have no problem with her attitude during communication and our communication was very polite and uneventful. Yet I do find it a bit risky for me to spend $500 after that communication because I don't know if she might boo me out of bed / door if I said or ask for something she dislike or not in the mood for (as the YMMV nature of the hobby). I may read her website and her email wrong and I misinterpret her quick-trigger attitude. But her tweets seem to back up my read to some extent. I consider 'overpriced' only because the risk I felt. I wouldn't feel as bad if the meeting goes bad if I pay $350. Again, this is about different pools of clients with different styles of how they spend money on providers. I repeat: this is not about your pricing, I literally have no issue against your price at all, not then, certainly not now.

    9. In any case, I think going back to her agency should work out better for her and the hobbyists who want to meet her. Having a buffer definitely help mitigate the potential issues caused by the attitude that she illustrates on her website and during communication. She may not even know the gentleman she meet sometime in the future is the author of these posts. And everyone has a happy encounter as the hobby business should turn out to be: to help release our daily life stress, not causing either end more stress. In this hobby, both sides have weirdoes, it's a two-way street.

    10. Finally, if Violet actually has the time and patience to read this lengthy post, please note that my post addresses more on the nature of this hobby business than on you personally. I share my comment on our very brief interaction because I think it doesn't necessarily work toward your benefits or business goals. At least from my point of view as hobbyists. And in all my posts about you or other providers I met, my language is never nasty or rude. I write my hobby post with a better manner than how I write on Yelp.

  13. #3804
    Senior Member


    Posts: 128

    Twitter

    Quote Originally Posted by CoolPatrick  [View Original Post]
    Why would any store start mark down the price of items it is selling? I guess she took down her own Violet TER profile because of Michelle's. Funny she took and tweeted a bunch of TER review screenshots to show how good her reviews were, and there was one explicitedly said 'Violet / Melanie' was blah blah.

    This is the second provider I am tracking for fun that started marked down from $500 to $350. Suggar Daddies or high rollers come and go, nothing stays forever. I considered both overpriced and are back to a more appropreiate level.

    So yes, it makes perfect sense to me since this is how market works. You can name your own price, and you can mark it up to attract different clientle, but if the demands dry up, or you fails to attract the niche, or you over reach, the demand will drop sooner than you think. $350 per session for 2 fucks per day is better than $500 per session for 0 fuck per day. If she is in Dallas or Houston, she has to mark down further, drop the attitude, or allow CIM and better be doing all three in order to maintain $350/hr level, although she can stay independent on ECCIE.
    She mentioned there posts on her Twitter just a bit ago. She obviously is aware of the site and not happy about it.

  14. #3803
    Quote Originally Posted by DynoJr  [View Original Post]
    I agree that is her pic, but why would she leave as an independent making $500 only to go back down to $350 and split with the house?
    Why would any store start mark down the price of items it is selling? I guess she took down her own Violet TER profile because of Michelle's. Funny she took and tweeted a bunch of TER review screenshots to show how good her reviews were, and there was one explicitedly said 'Violet / Melanie' was blah blah.

    This is the second provider I am tracking for fun that started marked down from $500 to $350. Suggar Daddies or high rollers come and go, nothing stays forever. I considered both overpriced and are back to a more appropreiate level.

    So yes, it makes perfect sense to me since this is how market works. You can name your own price, and you can mark it up to attract different clientle, but if the demands dry up, or you fails to attract the niche, or you over reach, the demand will drop sooner than you think. $350 per session for 2 fucks per day is better than $500 per session for 0 fuck per day. If she is in Dallas or Houston, she has to mark down further, drop the attitude, or allow CIM and better be doing all three in order to maintain $350/hr level, although she can stay independent on ECCIE.

  15. #3802

    That makes no sense

    Quote Originally Posted by CoolPatrick  [View Original Post]
    The independent provider Violet (TER 225376, deactivated on the end of Nov.) is back with Michelle's.

    https://twitter.com/xFreshViolet

    http://www.xfreshviolet.com/

    https://www.preferred411.com/P170642

    http://www.michellesescorts.com/Melanie.htm

    There should be no doubt that Violet is Melanie. The point is she charges $400 and then $500 when she is running solo since 2015. Now she is back with her old agency and seems like we can see her by paying $350 to Michelle's.

    I haven't met her. Contacted her a while back but I could not find a time that worked for both after a brief inquiry. Then she blocked my hobby twitter (she wasn't aware of the connection between my email, P411, and my twitter), even though her profile is public and I can still see everything so long as I don't use that account to visit her profile. Her attitude in correspondence is consistent to the vibe you can feel from reading her website and tweets. I mean your face is pretty and your tanned body is even like a 9 from Wrigley's bars. But, there are options out there for us too. I wouldn't risk 500 for a session that I may run into some attitude, however respectful I was communicating with you.

    At $350/ hr, it's more tempting. I'm glad that market sometimes works toward hobbyists favor. At least in this case.
    I agree that is her pic, but why would she leave as an independent making $500 only to go back down to $350 and split with the house?

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