Rants and Raves

[Bunnery Sgt]

Let me just put a ribbon on this. Everybody is free to vote for who they want. Everybody has their own opinion. People are free to voice these opinions. (Warning I love puns) This is what makes this country great. Again. The fact that people who buy sex can go on a forum and talk politics instead of pussy is a wonderful thing. I just hope we can all have an open mind and try to understand each other. Doesn't matter if you voted for trump, clinton, or neither. If you are reading this message we are all degenerates in our own little way.

[Bunnery Sgt]

Ok,

Saying it's representative of the same hate is saying it's hate speech.

Websters on the word Representative; "typical of a particular group of people or of a particular thing" Something that is not of the group cannot logically represent the group.


A2.

Using the definition provided by you (LOL). You have proven my point yet again with your faulty logic. My suggestion would be to read the definition in its entirety and apply it to my original statement. As a matter or fact I will put it in terms even you can understand.

Cat equal to animal.

Dog equal to animal.

Dog unequal to cat.

As you can see here these two things can share qualities but still not be the same.

Racists make insensitive comments
Ignorant people make insensitive comments
Ignorant people are not all racists

DO I NEED TO DRAW A FREAKING DIAGRAM AND UPLOAD IT FOR YOU?

If I'm incapable of "constructing a logical argument" you would not be running to the dictionary between replies just to prove a point. Just admit you misunderstood my statement and move on. You also accused me of stating it's "OK to call melania a hoe" and based on this interpretation I am no better than those who like to grab random women "by the pussy". Stop while you're behind. It's "not going to get any better for you".

P. S. When did I characterize him as a racist? Stop making stuff up to suit your narrative.

[Admin2]

Quote me where I said his post was hateful.

Ok,

Comparing our first lady to an ugly black prostitute IS representative of the same HATE which has been spewed in regards to the race and look of the president and first lady for the past 8 years.

Saying it's representative of the same hate is saying it's hate speech.

Websters on the word Representative; "typical of a particular group of people or of a particular thing" Something that is not of the group cannot logically represent the group.

Perhaps the real issue isn't that my comprehension skills are wanting, perhaps the real issue is you don't know how to construct a logical argument. You can't tell a person that his words are representative of hate but yet are not hate speech. You can't characterize him as a racist because he thinks Michelle is ugly without implying that he is a racist. Note I'm not saying you may not, I am saying you can not. It is not an issue of permission it is an issue of ability.

A2.

[NuGuy36]

Comparing our first lady to an ugly black prostitute IS representative of the same HATE which has been spewed in regards to the race and look of the president and first lady for the past 8 years. Melania actually DID take those photos so comparing her situation to that of the situation of our first lady is invalid. When will people realize that what we say has meaning. Our country doesn't have a communication problem at all. I think the people who voted for trump understood exactly what it is he said he was going to do. National ban on all muslims, deportation of millions of hispanics, and perpetuation of the stereotype that anyone who is not Caucasian is potentially a thug. This is how the day after the election minorities throughout the country have been harassed and how women have been sexually assaulted because of someones need to "grab them by the pussy". If you can't see how likening our first lady to a prostitute echoes the same dog whistles which we have been hearing since the turn of the century then you yourself are part of the problem. Feel free to respond but that is all I will be saying about this particular subject.

Well said BSgt, I couldn't have said it any better myself!

[NuGuy36]

Not hating on anyone, let alone creating a 'political hate field' To me, that girl looks just like Michelle Obama but with a much smaller ass

Bud, please get your Rx prescription glasses checked and rechecked again, that lady does not even remotely resemble M. Obama.

[Bunnery Sgt]

After my friend asked and I couldn't remember I looked, I went directly to her site and looked, I read her positions on various issues and there wasn't anything there that hasn't been said a thousand times and never done. Pretty much her campaign was "I'm better than he is. " Again, I've voted for every Democratic candidate that has run for President since 1984 so I'm not some Republican saying that "Killary lost because she sucks. " She had no message, she represented the same monied interests that any of the Republican candidates besides Trump would have represented. I'm also still not a fan of the President elect. I didn't, and still don't like either candidate.

What I am is a fan of honesty. You assert and continue to assert that the post that started this was hateful. I continue to say it was in poor taste and stupid but it wasn't hate speech. I understand that you have no lucid response to what I'm saying which was why you resorted to the ad hominem attack by saying my ability to comprehend the written word is somehow at fault. I don't mind, I expect fallacious arguments from people who have run out of reason.

It's probably a good idea that you're donnnne (sic) because this wasn't going to get any better for you.

Quote me where I said his post was hateful. Quote me where I said it was hate speech. Your reply showed a complete lack of understanding and demonstrated your inability to comprehend words strung together which end with periods. I don't need to attack the basis of your argument because the basis of your argument itself IS FAULTY. Your complete lack of understanding has led you to rebut arguments NOT presented by me and thus does not warrant a lucid response by me. This was also demonstrated by me first asking you to show me where I stated or implied the things which you had presented as my argument before me first having to waste my intelligence rebutting them..

[Admin2]

According to my standard for level of respect? Where do you see that ANYWHERE? Elevates me above? I said that too? Its ok to call her a hoe? Surely thats in there somewhere as well. Hilary had no message? Well we know for sure what trumps message was. I had a feeling this might happen. I'm donnnne. LOL. Reading comprehension appears to be at an all time low. Not only that you appear to be ignorant to the issues yourself as well. I thank everyone for chiming in. Hopefully the opinions shared here open up a few eyes.

Wow. Just wow.

After my friend asked and I couldn't remember I looked, I went directly to her site and looked, I read her positions on various issues and there wasn't anything there that hasn't been said a thousand times and never done. Pretty much her campaign was "I'm better than he is. " Again, I've voted for every Democratic candidate that has run for President since 1984 so I'm not some Republican saying that "Killary lost because she sucks. " She had no message, she represented the same monied interests that any of the Republican candidates besides Trump would have represented. I'm also still not a fan of the President elect. I didn't, and still don't like either candidate.

What I am is a fan of honesty. You assert and continue to assert that the post that started this was hateful. I continue to say it was in poor taste and stupid but it wasn't hate speech. I understand that you have no lucid response to what I'm saying which was why you resorted to the ad hominem attack by saying my ability to comprehend the written word is somehow at fault. I don't mind, I expect fallacious arguments from people who have run out of reason.

It's probably a good idea that you're donnnne (sic) because this wasn't going to get any better for you.

[Trick Williams]

Comparing our first lady to an ugly black prostitute IS representative of the same HATE which has been spewed in regards to the race and look of the president and first lady for the past 8 years. Melania actually DID take those photos so comparing her situation to that of the situation of our first lady is invalid. When will people realize that what we say has meaning. Our country doesn't have a communication problem at all. I think the people who voted for trump understood exactly what it is he said he was going to do. National ban on all muslims, deportation of millions of hispanics, and perpetuation of the stereotype that anyone who is not Caucasian is potentially a thug. This is how the day after the election minorities throughout the country have been harassed and how women have been sexually assaulted because of someones need to "grab them by the pussy". If you can't see how likening our first lady to a prostitute echoes the same dog whistles which we have been hearing since the turn of the century then you yourself are part of the problem. Feel free to respond but that is all I will be saying about this particular subject.

Well said but unfortunately some folks just won't get it smh.

[The Parrot]

Melania will be the first lady so by your standard deserves the same respect as Michelle Obama (who I personally thought was a great first lady) but because she took some nudie pics before she was first lady it's ok to call her a ho. Please explain how that elevates you above "grab um by the pussy" please?

Yes what people say has meaning, except you want it to have the meaning that YOU give to it. I have been a progressive all my life, well since I was about 19 and proudly voted for each Democratic Candidate since Mondale UNTIL this election when I choose to not vote. I literally saw no candidate that was worth the effort of taking a bus to the embassy to vote. I am literally disgusted by the reaction of the left in this election. They put up a shitty candidate who had absolutely no platform what so ever and when they lost they are blaming everybody but themselves. A friend of mine (another progressive) said something while we were having coffee the other day that I have been thinking about ever since. We were talking about why Trump might have won and he asked me a question "can you name one policy initiative that Hillary proposed?" I couldn't, she had no message. Additionally after 8 years of listening to my fellow progressives complain about obstructionist politics nearly all of them are calling for exactly the same.

You want to know why Trump won? I think this guy is the closest so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs

A2.

Seems like rants and raves has turned into a political discussion.

Well here is my 2 cents on trump and Hillary.

What I really dislike about Hilary is that she wants to continue the policy of punishing / bullying or telling other countries what they can and can not do. I believe that is a recipe for disaster, especially when done against large and powerful nations such as Russia!!

Russia has its own leaders. Allow Vladimir putin to do what he needs to do for his country or else! The USA needs to stop trying to police the world.

Look at the Japanese before the pacific war. USA didn't like what the Japanese were doing to the Chinese (invasion, Nanking etc.) So the USA decided to stop trading with them aka cut off their resources as a way of punishing / disciplining the Japanese.

Well, what did the Japanese do in response to that?

They bombed pearl harbor in retaliation. Imagine how Russia would respond if they are backed into a corner by the USA!

One positive thing about Trump is that he doesn't give a dam what Russia does as long as they are not attacking us. That improves relations with Russia and keeps is out pf war. Also, Vladimir Putin has zero respect for Hilary Clinton!!

Also I'm not a fan of hyper liberalism. Especially when it comes to transgenders / transexuals / transformers LOL!!

Just because you "feel" like a woman doesn't mean you are one. I don't want trannys using the women's bathroom and other foolishness.

I also like how ballsy and powerful Trump is. He is an alpha male who doesn't bend over backwards or walk on egg shells to try and please sensitive people.

I know people may hate me for my views, but that's just how I feel.

Also, on a world stage I don't believe a female president can be truly feared and respected at this point in time.

The middle east will laugh at our weak nation ran by a woman. You know how those Islamic groups feel about women in positions of power.

You just can't shove capitalism and equality down peoples throat!!

What do you guys think? Are my views crazy?

I can take criticism, come at me!!

[Bunnery Sgt]

Melania will be the first lady so by your standard deserves the same respect as Michelle Obama (who I personally thought was a great first lady) but because she took some nudie pics before she was first lady it's ok to call her a ho. Please explain how that elevates you above "grab um by the pussy" please?

Yes what people say has meaning, except you want it to have the meaning that YOU give to it. I have been a progressive all my life, well since I was about 19 and proudly voted for each Democratic Candidate since Mondale UNTIL this election when I choose to not vote. I literally saw no candidate that was worth the effort of taking a bus to the embassy to vote. I am literally disgusted by the reaction of the left in this election. They put up a shitty candidate who had absolutely no platform what so ever and when they lost they are blaming everybody but themselves. A friend of mine (another progressive) said something while we were having coffee the other day that I have been thinking about ever since. We were talking about why Trump might have won and he asked me a question "can you name one policy initiative that Hillary proposed?" I couldn't, she had no message. Additionally after 8 years of listening to my fellow progressives complain about obstructionist politics nearly all of them are calling for exactly the same.

You want to know why Trump won? I think this guy is the closest so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs

A2.

According to my standard for level of respect? Where do you see that ANYWHERE? Elevates me above? I said that too? Its ok to call her a hoe? Surely thats in there somewhere as well. Hilary had no message? Well we know for sure what trumps message was. I had a feeling this might happen. I'm donnnne. LOL. Reading comprehension appears to be at an all time low. Not only that you appear to be ignorant to the issues yourself as well. I thank everyone for chiming in. Hopefully the opinions shared here open up a few eyes.

Wow. Just wow.

[Admin2]

Comparing our first lady to an ugly black prostitute IS representative of the same HATE which has been spewed in regards to the race and look of the president and first lady for the past 8 years. Melania actually DID take those photos so comparing her situation to that of the situation of our first lady is invalid. When will people realize that what we say has meaning. Our country doesn't have a communication problem at all. I think the people who voted for trump understood exactly what it is he said he was going to do. National ban on all muslims, deportation of millions of hispanics, and perpetuation of the stereotype that anyone who is not Caucasian is potentially a thug. This is how the day after the election minorities throughout the country have been harassed and how women have been sexually assaulted because of someones need to "grab them by the pussy". If you can't see how likening our first lady to a prostitute echoes the same dog whistles which we have been hearing since the turn of the century then you yourself are part of the problem. Feel free to respond but that is all I will be saying about this particular subject.

Melania will be the first lady so by your standard deserves the same respect as Michelle Obama (who I personally thought was a great first lady) but because she took some nudie pics before she was first lady it's ok to call her a ho. Please explain how that elevates you above "grab um by the pussy" please?

Yes what people say has meaning, except you want it to have the meaning that YOU give to it. I have been a progressive all my life, well since I was about 19 and proudly voted for each Democratic Candidate since Mondale UNTIL this election when I choose to not vote. I literally saw no candidate that was worth the effort of taking a bus to the embassy to vote. I am literally disgusted by the reaction of the left in this election. They put up a shitty candidate who had absolutely no platform what so ever and when they lost they are blaming everybody but themselves. A friend of mine (another progressive) said something while we were having coffee the other day that I have been thinking about ever since. We were talking about why Trump might have won and he asked me a question "can you name one policy initiative that Hillary proposed?" I couldn't, she had no message. Additionally after 8 years of listening to my fellow progressives complain about obstructionist politics nearly all of them are calling for exactly the same.

You want to know why Trump won? I think this guy is the closest so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs

A2.

[Bunnery Sgt]

I voted for Obama in 2008. White vote gave him two terms as president. Where's my racist hate? Self hate for my own white ass is why I voted for a black man? No, dude, your comments are the dog whistle, not mine.

I take that back (the part about not responding that is). You appear to just be ignorant. I did not call you hateful. You lack understanding as to why your comments would be offensive in the first place. This is also a problem we have to deal with as americans. I didn't call you racist. That's something known as the "hit dog" syndrome. As to your immediate proclamation that you "voted for obama" that statement as well as its placement says about enough on its own. Before you get upset about me calling you ignorant please read the definition of the word. Please learn how to read In the first place. PLEASE.

I'm simply trying to explain to you that when you say things like that it echoes what truly hateful and ignorant things have already been said. There is no mistaking why your post resulted in the responses that it did. Until you understand that then YES you will continue to be a part of the problem.

[Johnny Mapalo]

She does kinda resemble M. Obama now that the original poster mentioned it. I didn't see it at first, but there are some similarities with the bulging eyeballs and protruding mouth. Now, did the original poster post this as a departing jab at the first lady or was this just a random sick joke to get a rise out of people. Only the original poster knows. Some may see it as a hateful departing jab, while others may see it as a random distasteful joke. Everyone interprets things differently. Although, I must admit, the timing of this joke is lined perfectly with the first ladies imminent departure.

BTW, you can call the chic in the ad an ugly prostitute all you want, but I guarantee you that, that ugly prostitute has some regulars. Some of her regulars are probably reading these messages as we type, wondering what's so bad looking about this chic. LOL.

[Aaron Hamlet]

Comparing our first lady to an ugly black prostitute IS representative of the same HATE which has been spewed in regards to the race and look of the president and first lady for the past 8 years. Melania actually DID take those photos so comparing her situation to that of the situation of our first lady is invalid. When will people realize that what we say has meaning. Our country doesn't have a communication problem at all. I think the people who voted for trump understood exactly what it is he said he was going to do. National ban on all muslims, deportation of millions of hispanics, and perpetuation of the stereotype that anyone who is not Caucasian is potentially a thug. This is how the day after the election minorities throughout the country have been harassed and how women have been sexually assaulted because of someones need to "grab them by the pussy". If you can't see how likening our first lady to a prostitute echoes the same dog whistles which we have been hearing since the turn of the century then you yourself are part of the problem. Feel free to respond but that is all I will be saying about this particular subject.

I voted for Obama in 2008. White vote gave him two terms as president. Where's my racist hate? Self hate for my own white ass is why I voted for a black man? No, dude, your comments are the dog whistle, not mine.

[Bunnery Sgt]

Comparing our first lady to an ugly black prostitute IS representative of the same HATE which has been spewed in regards to the race and look of the president and first lady for the past 8 years. Melania actually DID take those photos so comparing her situation to that of the situation of our first lady is invalid. When will people realize that what we say has meaning. Our country doesn't have a communication problem at all. I think the people who voted for trump understood exactly what it is he said he was going to do. National ban on all muslims, deportation of millions of hispanics, and perpetuation of the stereotype that anyone who is not Caucasian is potentially a thug. This is how the day after the election minorities throughout the country have been harassed and how women have been sexually assaulted because of someones need to "grab them by the pussy". If you can't see how likening our first lady to a prostitute echoes the same dog whistles which we have been hearing since the turn of the century then you yourself are part of the problem. Feel free to respond but that is all I will be saying about this particular subject.