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[Goser]

It is naive to think they don't know all about this forum.

In my mind, we are 95% of the way to "creepy", however you want to define it, as soon as we cross the threshold into a skin parlor to exchange money for sex with a stranger. Writing about it barely moves the needle.

2nd point, many girls have a TER I.D. specifically for that purpose, so customers can go write reviews and other guys can read those reviews to decide on where to spend their income. This is business for these girls, first and foremost, they want money, and consistent customers = $$$. The tip at the end, as many girls have mentioned, is the most important part for them.

Final point, my personal experience has been quite the opposite of your assumption. I don't care what is said behind my back, I care about how I am treated in person. An analogy is like a restaurant catering to a regular or a recognized food critic. As long as I'm not an asshole, they usually don't burn my steak.

It really isn't that complicated. With any decent business, if you're a good customer and the business is run with $$ in mind, they will reciprocate and take care of their revenue stream. Economics 101.

What I've found is that the girls inevitably find out about this forum if they get a lot of reviews. Take Star at Roses as an example. When she first got here last April, she was very naive about how the business works here in Hawaii. I tried to warn her about the internet message boards, but she was truly oblivious to the fact that they even exist. She couldn't even comprehend of such idea. Then, later, she got pretty popular during her stay at Roses. She started getting a lot of reviews both good and bad. All of a sudden, whatever was being published on this forum became important to her. She doesn't even speak English and she was telling me what people were posting about her and it bothered her a lot. This really caused her a lot of stress and was one of the reasons she went home early. If she comes back, I hope to convey to her that more publicity is good for her. As long as there is a good mix of good and bad, it will create more business for her and not less. But, for normally, shy and conservative Korean girls, this is a hard pill to swallow.

I've been in this hobby for a long time and I have been around the Hawaii scene for long enough to know how it works here. Most of the girls I see are just one and done. If I 3-peat with a girl, we usually develop some sort of familiarity almost akin to a friendship, but not really. I would say it is friendly banter and flirting. Nothing serious, just familiarity. When I 10-peat with a girl, I usually develop some type of connection with the girl. Nothing close to a girlfriend / boyfriend thing, but much closer than the normal monger / provider relationship. It's really unavoidable because if you see a girl 10-times or more, you like her a lot. If you are a decent human, there will be some type of connection formed. To me, this is when you really get the ultimate GFE experience because technically, if you have sex with a girl 10 times or more, she is your girlfriend. LOL.

[HonoluluGirl]

It is naive to think they don't know all about this forum.

In my mind, we are 95% of the way to "creepy", however you want to define it, as soon as we cross the threshold into a skin parlor to exchange money for sex with a stranger. Writing about it barely moves the needle.

2nd point, many girls have a TER I.D. specifically for that purpose, so customers can go write reviews and other guys can read those reviews to decide on where to spend their income. This is business for these girls, first and foremost, they want money, and consistent customers = $$$. The tip at the end, as many girls have mentioned, is the most important part for them.

Final point, my personal experience has been quite the opposite of your assumption. I don't care what is said behind my back, I care about how I am treated in person. An analogy is like a restaurant catering to a regular or a recognized food critic. As long as I'm not an asshole, they usually don't burn my steak.

It really isn't that complicated. With any decent business, if you're a good customer and the business is run with $$ in mind, they will reciprocate and take care of their revenue stream. Economics 101.

Hi Honolulugirl here. I don't know when this website started. I am never on the cutting edge of the latest development in technology, internet options, etc. And this site was no exception. A long time regular (someone I had seen for over 10 years) is the one who told me I should look into this website. This is back in 2012 when I had been out of the scene for a while. Prior to that time, my participation in the provider world was through the yellow pages. There were about three pages of half page ads, each appearing to be a different agency catering to a different clientele. Older women, younger women, local women, foreign women, there was a number to call no matter what you wanted. In reality, there was just one guy, with this deep voice. He'd answer the phone with "May I help you?" The information would be passed on to me, no the person's number, but where they were located. Then, as now, I didn't drive. So my driver would take me all over the island. When I arrived at the spot I called immediately to say I had gotten the money, half of which I would owe to the service. If I stayed longer than the hour, than at the end of 60 minutes on the dot I was to call and say I had received the next hourly installment. And so on. I was never given the heads up that the caller had requested a 6 foot tall blond Swede and I showed up a 5 foot tall brown skinned beauty, and sometimes I just couldn't make the conversion because I agreed with the disappointed would-be client that they should have gotten what they had been promised. In fact, those experiences contributed to my adamant stance that I keep my promises and deliver what I offer. Bait and switch is dishonorable, and in practical terms it is, unsustainable. But other than dealing with that deception, I did well combining downtown / Waikiki walking, to taking the high dollar calls.

During the early to mid 2000's the street was ridiculously profitable and as easy as walking out the door and standing for 45 seconds before a car or two screeched to a halt, and many times it was easier to meet someone out there while waiting for a call to come in from the service, and wow, would that have been profitable if I had been honest with myself about my inability to save money and had someone hold my donations. Oh well. Water under the bridge. After my hiatus, it was all about the internet, not the phone book. The street was dead due to community pressure to move activities out of sight so we can pretend nothings is going on. Some nights the once hopping areas are utterly empty except for the veteran providers who are often not actually biologically female (they always liked me in spite of the fact that I am a girl, nicknamed me "Body" and this nickname was in use before I gifted myself with my augmentation).

Now, everything is online, so in spite of my trepidation about entering the unknown (to me) world of internet advertising, I tried joining this site and the 21st century, had my struggles, hit my stride, and that's my story of how you are reading my words on this thread--the only thread the Administrator will allow me to post on. I will say that there are people out on the street who don't have access to computers and can't keep phones and have been really shocked to see their names and pix online. I experienced a shock once when I was randomly reading a thread and a person suggested people come and see me, but it was not possible for me to find the entry because either the site didn't allow me to search for my name within a thread if it wasn't mentioned in the title of the post, or I didn't know how to work this site's search engine.

We all have different ways we arrived to this place at this time. But I don't think anything is a secret, just some people are more in the know than others.

[Goser]

Well said. I have to agree with lonelysmiles. Why come to Dream forum and say things that you have no review in. I visit both places and they are both great but in different ways. But starting a rumor with no evidence just make you look like a guy hired by another AMP to bash another AMP. You are actually making Happiness look bad. Guys reading on Dream forum wants to know why they should or should not go there and who to see. Not a recommendation which AMP to see. I know the competition between Happiness, Rejuve, and Dream is on and I like that. It makes the AMP to step up on service. I enjoy all 3 places and don't want anyone of those places to fail.

I consider Happy a very good friend right now. She always treats me well and we have spent a lot of time talking about many subjects. I feel I have a much better understanding of what it takes to run an AMP. Because I consider her a friend, it makes going there very pleasant and welcoming. However, this would mean nothing if she didn't have good looking girls who provided great service.

Let me say that Happy does NOT feel competition from Dream or Rejuve. What she does is gets a lot of flack for shit she doesn't even do or say. She is at times so frustrated with it, she tells me proactively not to talk to any other girls about Happiness. She would rather not have any chance with a top girl from another AMP then there even be a rumor that she may be poaching one.

I believe the problem is the guys on this forum. They have their favorites, so we get into dick duels with each other over who is the best girl and which is the best AMP. We are the ones causing the problems for the AMP owners.

[John Ross]

She already knows that you read about her if you asked for her by name. I used to ask for a line up to make it seem random that I choose her when I already know who to pick from information from this website. Now, the popular providers of a busy AMP don't have to be in a lineup when their schedule are full.

Furthermore, if you tell her you saw the ad on Backpage, there is a 99.99% chance you are on USAG.

[Memahu]

I'm just curious if that is something that's going on. Like I know some girls are popular and it's only a matter of time before she finds out about her fan-base here but. How does this even come up a conversation beyond those circumstances? I mean the last thing I'd want a woman to know is that I actually spent time reading about her having sex with other men before I made my decision to see her. I mean. Let her think I'm some random guy, let her think she has to impress me.

She already knows that you read about her if you asked for her by name. I used to ask for a line up to make it seem random that I choose her when I already know who to pick from information from this website. Now, the popular providers of a busy AMP don't have to be in a lineup when their schedule are full.

[Ck813]

I believe these guys tell the provides bring it up because of various reasons.

1) they are pressured and then they break. The massage therapist in Aiea tried that technique with me and I told her to fuck off. She got pist.

2) they want extras for free or a lesser charge. BBBJ, BBFSCIP, or something to that.

3) they become a shill term I learned from here.

4) they got blackmailed, providers do this.

5) they want in with a certain establishment.

I'm just curious if that is something that's going on. Like I know some girls are popular and it's only a matter of time before she finds out about her fan-base here but. How does this even come up a conversation beyond those circumstances? I mean the last thing I'd want a woman to know is that I actually spent time reading about her having sex with other men before I made my decision to see her. I mean. Let her think I'm some random guy, let her think she has to impress me. She doesn't need to know that if this goes well I've already decided to make her a regular I see. That I might end up coming two or three times a week just to see her. On some level that has to be a bit creepy. Are guys saying "I'm going to give you such a good review" after a session? I just don't see how this comes up.

[SlappinBellies]

Wow. How did I get lumped into your classification of cry babies. All I did was to clarify that there are 3 kinds of people not 2. Then again. If I'm Trump, I would not need this site, and most importantly. I would not be full of empty promises and quick to deflect my faults unto others. Get a grip dude.

Cheers.

LOL. Sorry my reply wasn't directed towards you.

[DarthTyranus]

I'm just curious if that is something that's going on. Like I know some girls are popular and it's only a matter of time before she finds out about her fan-base here but. How does this even come up a conversation beyond those circumstances? I mean the last thing I'd want a woman to know is that I actually spent time reading about her having sex with other men before I made my decision to see her. I mean. Let her think I'm some random guy, let her think she has to impress me. She doesn't need to know that if this goes well I've already decided to make her a regular I see. That I might end up coming two or three times a week just to see her. On some level that has to be a bit creepy. Are guys saying "I'm going to give you such a good review" after a session? I just don't see how this comes up.

This site is not a secret to AMPs, escort agencies, and Korean bars. I've read discussions on this site and a few days later the BP ads reflect what was said. Someone here coined the term "The" (fill in girls name). It's regularly used to describe providers now (e. G. , The Connie, The Nani, The Julie). I've tried to stick with fight club rules, but cats out of the bag already.

If you want secret go to a paid site. My experience is this one is better. At least for Hawaii.

[Lonely Smiles]

I'm just curious if that is something that's going on. Like I know some girls are popular and it's only a matter of time before she finds out about her fan-base here but. How does this even come up a conversation beyond those circumstances? I mean the last thing I'd want a woman to know is that I actually spent time reading about her having sex with other men before I made my decision to see her. I mean. Let her think I'm some random guy, let her think she has to impress me. She doesn't need to know that if this goes well I've already decided to make her a regular I see. That I might end up coming two or three times a week just to see her. On some level that has to be a bit creepy. Are guys saying "I'm going to give you such a good review" after a session? I just don't see how this comes up.

It is naive to think they don't know all about this forum.

In my mind, we are 95% of the way to "creepy", however you want to define it, as soon as we cross the threshold into a skin parlor to exchange money for sex with a stranger. Writing about it barely moves the needle.

2nd point, many girls have a TER I.D. specifically for that purpose, so customers can go write reviews and other guys can read those reviews to decide on where to spend their income. This is business for these girls, first and foremost, they want money, and consistent customers = $$$. The tip at the end, as many girls have mentioned, is the most important part for them.

Final point, my personal experience has been quite the opposite of your assumption. I don't care what is said behind my back, I care about how I am treated in person. An analogy is like a restaurant catering to a regular or a recognized food critic. As long as I'm not an asshole, they usually don't burn my steak.

It really isn't that complicated. With any decent business, if you're a good customer and the business is run with $$ in mind, they will reciprocate and take care of their revenue stream. Economics 101.

[CardSource52]

Okay, 8 posts from you.

2 posts in the sugar babies thread that look normal.

Posting in Dream thread that guys should go to Happiness instead. Another post complaining about the bathrooms at Dream. Followed up with 2 purely speculative posts elsewhere about home land security. A post in the Rejuve thread saying you prefer Rejuve over Dream.

And now a post claiming to have a friend with a "business relationship with several of the businesses" in Kukui Plaza Mall and rumors of complaints without evidence. We can all make up stories. If you don't like Dream, cool. Don't go. But what's up with the Home Land Security speculation and rumor starting? Agenda much?

Feel free to make a contribution on the subject of a woman you actually saw anytime.

Well said. I have to agree with lonelysmiles. Why come to Dream forum and say things that you have no review in. I visit both places and they are both great but in different ways. But starting a rumor with no evidence just make you look like a guy hired by another AMP to bash another AMP. You are actually making Happiness look bad. Guys reading on Dream forum wants to know why they should or should not go there and who to see. Not a recommendation which AMP to see. I know the competition between Happiness, Rejuve, and Dream is on and I like that. It makes the AMP to step up on service. I enjoy all 3 places and don't want anyone of those places to fail.

[SureYourRight]

I'm just curious if that is something that's going on. Like I know some girls are popular and it's only a matter of time before she finds out about her fan-base here but. How does this even come up a conversation beyond those circumstances? I mean the last thing I'd want a woman to know is that I actually spent time reading about her having sex with other men before I made my decision to see her. I mean. Let her think I'm some random guy, let her think she has to impress me. She doesn't need to know that if this goes well I've already decided to make her a regular I see. That I might end up coming two or three times a week just to see her. On some level that has to be a bit creepy. Are guys saying "I'm going to give you such a good review" after a session? I just don't see how this comes up.

[Lonely Smiles]

Okay, 8 posts from you.

2 posts in the sugar babies thread that look normal.

Posting in Dream thread that guys should go to Happiness instead. Another post complaining about the bathrooms at Dream. Followed up with 2 purely speculative posts elsewhere about home land security. A post in the Rejuve thread saying you prefer Rejuve over Dream.

And now a post claiming to have a friend with a "business relationship with several of the businesses" in Kukui Plaza Mall and rumors of complaints without evidence. We can all make up stories. If you don't like Dream, cool. Don't go. But what's up with the Home Land Security speculation and rumor starting? Agenda much?

Feel free to make a contribution on the subject of a woman you actually saw anytime.

[AznRedneck808]

Your like Trump, if a monger doesn't describe an experience your way you start calling names and crying. Frickin cry babies. You guys couldn't navigate your way out of sandbox if given directions.

Wow. How did I get lumped into your classification of cry babies. All I did was to clarify that there are 3 kinds of people not 2. Then again. If I'm Trump, I would not need this site, and most importantly. I would not be full of empty promises and quick to deflect my faults unto others. Get a grip dude.

Cheers.

[Happy Seeker 8]

Funny, when there's a naked woman in front of a large number of these mongers on the board they wonder what the "F" do I do since I didn't read it in USA sex guide forum. I can just visualize a monger in a session with a provider when they've just learned of her services via USA Sex Guide Forum.

Monger: What do I do there she is fully naked.

Provider: Are you going to take off your clothes?

Monger: Geez, I don't know I didn't read about in USA Sex Guide Forum. I know you offer these wonderful services and I am seeing you because of what I read.

Provider: What is that?

Monger: Oh its a site where guys like me go to discover what type of services you girls offer. For example BBBJ, means you suck dick without a condom. Do you want to start sucking my dick without a condom?

Provider: WTF? What site is this? And, who has been describing me like this?

Monger: Oh, this guy that goes by the handle of "Goser" from USA SexGuide Forum describes you as giving him a blow job without a condom.

Provider: I remember him he's the only guy I did that too. He's gross. I only did that cause he paid me more to suck his dick without a condom. He's really gross but he kept on begging and offering more money so I gave in to him cause I'm a really nice girl.

Monger: Oh, he didn't mention anything about him paying more. Geez, I don't have extra money to give to you to suck bare but since you did it for him can you do for me?

Provider: No!! Your gross.

I'm not a troll or shill. I just don't buy into your way of mongering. You don't need to know what a provider provides to me and I don't need to share it with you. All you need to know is if she is worth seeing a second time.

Your like Trump, if a monger doesn't describe an experience your way you start calling names and crying. Frickin cry babies. You guys couldn't navigate your way out of sandbox if given directions.

UHH?? The continuous million dollar question here, STILL not answered-WHY! WHY! Do you post then? If your not sharing anything of value-WHY? WHY? - and HUH?- Us calling out names & crying? Illiterate sounds familiar to you?

[SlappinBellies]

Yo. SlappingBellies. I would like to correct you.

There are actually 3 kinds of people not 2.

Those that makes things happen. Those that watch things happen. Then there are those that wonder what the "F* happen.

Funny, when there's a naked woman in front of a large number of these mongers on the board they wonder what the "F" do I do since I didn't read it in USA sex guide forum. I can just visualize a monger in a session with a provider when they've just learned of her services via USA Sex Guide Forum.

Monger: What do I do there she is fully naked.

Provider: Are you going to take off your clothes?

Monger: Geez, I don't know I didn't read about in USA Sex Guide Forum. I know you offer these wonderful services and I am seeing you because of what I read.

Provider: What is that?

Monger: Oh its a site where guys like me go to discover what type of services you girls offer. For example BBBJ, means you suck dick without a condom. Do you want to start sucking my dick without a condom?

Provider: WTF? What site is this? And, who has been describing me like this?

Monger: Oh, this guy that goes by the handle of "Goser" from USA SexGuide Forum describes you as giving him a blow job without a condom.

Provider: I remember him he's the only guy I did that too. He's gross. I only did that cause he paid me more to suck his dick without a condom. He's really gross but he kept on begging and offering more money so I gave in to him cause I'm a really nice girl.

Monger: Oh, he didn't mention anything about him paying more. Geez, I don't have extra money to give to you to suck bare but since you did it for him can you do for me?

Provider: No!! Your gross.

I'm not a troll or shill. I just don't buy into your way of mongering. You don't need to know what a provider provides to me and I don't need to share it with you. All you need to know is if she is worth seeing a second time.

Your like Trump, if a monger doesn't describe an experience your way you start calling names and crying. Frickin cry babies. You guys couldn't navigate your way out of sandbox if given directions.