Streetwalker Reports

[Gator145]

If you are on foot (that is to say: without car keys, without car) would it be unsafe to go to a $10 spot (since you're not going to be carrying any money with you beyond the very minimum, and nothing valuable such as car keys)? Also, couldn't you just walk (after making the pickup) all the way over to a nearby motel? What would be the pros and cons?

Yesterday, Wednesday, I watched a guy strolling the stroll. He was walking around eating a bag of chips like he was at a carnival. That's his prerogative if that's his comfort zone doing that sort of thing. Yet he was not very seasoned in the mode he was working. He was very obvious in his own little world. It was plain to see he was not a local. He definitely was not waiting for a bus. He made it clear with body language what he was there for. He didn't seem to be trying to hide it at all.

Before he made any move toward anyone he really should have scouted the area out to see what drawbacks there might be. He approached one girl and she blew him off like an annoying mosquito. He threw his hands in the air and crossed the street and hung on the corner like he was a resident. Little did he know the place was crawling with undercover LEO.

LEO had been clearing the area all night every time someone stopped to pick their nose. They was looking to take prisoners to show the boss. . They was watching him like a cat watches a mouse. Just waiting for him to screw up. They would have pounced on him and showed no mercy. They was laughing at him when the one girl shooed him away. So their motive was also clear.

One can take all the precautions mentioned above. That being no keys, minimal amount of cash, no valuables etc. You really need to remember you are the only person that knows you are prepared for trouble in your own comfortable way. Can't walk down the street wearing a sign stating that.

Somebody that is sizing you up for a hit thinks you are a great target. Because that is the world they live in, in that area. They believe everybody but them has money. They think they are going to hit you over the head and be set for the rest of the day with drugs. They talk about what they are going to do with the haul before they even whack you. They convince each other you are loaded. Really. When you fall they will go through your pockets only to find $5. 00 they very well could be pissed and do more damage to you. You always need to look at a situation as what's the worse that can happen here. Am I safe. How many guys just hanging around outside and inside. How many was staring as I entered. How many people there all together that you can see. If I have to run am I able or do I take what they dish out to me. What way am I going to go if I need to exit quickly. What is the weakest point to exit. These seem like trivial thoughts until you need to put them to use. If you don't take care of you nobody there will. Hell they watch people die in that area and film it while laughing. So what are your chances out of your comfort zone?

You determine what you want to risk. When someone wants to do you harm they set the risk level much higher and you may be unaware.

One could visit five safe $10.00 spots. The one that is not safe will look just like a safe one and leave you with memories you won't believe.

I'm sure there are mongers here that have been set up in the street one way or another. Anybody wish to chime in here feel free. I know the experiences are on this board.

I personally know mongers on this forum that hoof the stroll all the time. There is another that rides a bike. They have found a space they feel comfortable with. We chat and share stories. I just believe everyone with any time here has probably had an encounter they wish they hadn't. Or another that shook them to the bone. There is nobody on that street of broken dreams that I would trust. Nobody. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

[He Jova]

?? Just curious, but what is your GOAL when you are looking for SW's on foot? I mean, do you plan to duck into a dark alley and get a quick BJ? Walk to one of the $10 spots and rent a room? Or are you parked somewhere close and just want to get a better look before you pick up?

If you are on foot (that is to say: without car keys, without car) would it be unsafe to go to a $10 spot (since you're not going to be carrying any money with you beyond the very minimum, and nothing valuable such as car keys)? Also, couldn't you just walk (after making the pickup) all the way over to a nearby motel? What would be the pros and cons?

[Mackeral1]

?? Just curious, but what is your GOAL when you are looking for SW's on foot? I mean, do you plan to duck into a dark alley and get a quick BJ? Walk to one of the $10 spots and rent a room? Or are you parked somewhere close and just want to get a better look before you pick up? My advise is in line with Gator's warnings. If you are looking for option 1 or 2 I listed above, they are both too high risk (for me anyway). Option 3 - I do it all the time. I park around a corner somewhere when I want to get a closer look. When you are on foot, and approach a SW you can see alot of things you can't ifrom a car. How pretty is she? Is she out of it on meds? Can she stand up right? Does she smell like a dead fish? Is there a handler 20 feet away and you should avoid this one? Does she have an earpiece in and there is a van with tinted windows across the street? Anyway, point is you can see alot more and get a better feeling for the surroundings on foot. But you better have good situational awareness and an escape route. To answer the original question. If I am interested after getting a closer up view, I will usually just start off by making eye contact and saying "what's up" or even "lets go for a walk" ill usually tell them I am parked around the corner. Never had not even one not go with me with that simple approach.

[Gator145]

DarkSoulo. I would try to be more informative than critical. Let's be realistic with your plight. You are on foot, you see a girl you would like to approach. You are not sure how to handle the situation to accomplish your goals.

The stroll is no place for a novice to be alone for any reason. Anything can and will happen. Especially to someone that has no idea how to handle a simple encounter let alone a hostile one. Rest assured my friend, people you don't even see out there are sizing you up for some type encounter. Just to set you up. One may ask for a cigarette, a light, change, directions or any of a dozen other things to put themselves in your space. What seems innocent to most can be a well thought out plan to separate an unsuspecting transients from their cash or any valuable they may possess. Walking in a high crime area with no other motive than to get a BJ is not a well thought out plan at all. This goes for the seasoned monger as well as the novice. Do you think before you attempted this venture you should have figured out your game plan? Maybe what to say or how to handle rejection if you have made an error in judgement, as we all have. Always keep in the front of your mind this one thought. If you don't have or lose control of any situation, then you are in danger. If you don't remember anything else I tell you, remember that. It is up to you to take care of you out there. Going to LEO for any bad encounter out there is not an option. The locals know that and use it to their advantage. First thing LEO will ask is what you are doing there. Which you don't legally have to answer. They will still ask. Again please don't take this as criticism. Not meant to be that. More informative than critical.

Now lets get past the many dangers one may face when on. Foot. If you are still intent on being on foot then you need a plan that will work.

You can always approach a girl with the same methods the locals use to approach you and share your space. That is ask for a light, offer a smoke which most will accept with great pleasure etc. Can always ask if she would like to get a soda and a burger as most girls are also hungry. Ask if she would like to hang out. Just a simple hello can also put you within their space. Everything I mention here is perfectly legal and acceptable public behavior. Once you have their attention they will get into your space. They will want to see what else you have to say. Watch body language. See if they smile. Do they move toward or away from you. Are they social or anti social. The main thing is never ever approach them as if they are a working girl. If you are wrong it could get you in a lot of trouble. Never offer money for anything but to buy them food or drink. If they are working they will come right out and tell you most of the time. They will more than likely say they are trying to make money. Build your own confidence. A confident monger is a secure monger. With out confidence you will never get what you are after out there. You can PM me anytime and I will respond within a short period. There are a bunch of members here with a boatload of knowledge. Most will share if you contribute to the board also. Take your time. Get to know a few of the members. Many are great guys once you get to know them. Last and easiest is this. If you have a phone with video capabilities. Figure out your approach to a girl you may never have met. Record yourself using that approach. Then review the video and see if you find yourself believable or laughable. If not tweak it as necessary. Once you approve your own approach then you will be more confident and secure. I hope this helps you somewhat sir. Keep asking questions. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

[Msaunders6969]

Thanks. I'd like to ask a follow-up question about something the Original Poster stated. He said that he was / is on foot.

My question is, what are you supposed say to the SW when you are on foot? When in a car, you could ask "Do you want a ride?" and be safe, because you are asking a perfectly legitimate, legal question: if someone wants a ride, or not.

But if you are on foot, you can't ask "Do you want a ride?" So what would you ask / say, to initiate contact, in the on-foot situation?

Ask her if she would like to give you a piggyback ride.

[He Jova]

...Another point which you have a good start on. WHEN IN DOUBT: ASK QUESTIONS! When I started I asked a bunch of rookie questions. But because it was clear I had read the forums and wasn't asking a question that had been answered 4 posts prior, I found many helped! So read and ASK! Lots of experienced gents here willing to help those who give back and aren't just one-ways. So Good luck! Happy Hunting!

Thanks. I'd like to ask a follow-up question about something the Original Poster stated. He said that he was / is on foot.

My question is, what are you supposed say to the SW when you are on foot? When in a car, you could ask "Do you want a ride?" and be safe, because you are asking a perfectly legitimate, legal question: if someone wants a ride, or not.

But if you are on foot, you can't ask "Do you want a ride?" So what would you ask / say, to initiate contact, in the on-foot situation?

[Sacramento]

I saw this white chick with a big booty. Short hair. Very stylish hair style. Like combed to one side. Probably early 30's. Had few tattoos. On her neck as well. Was around tioga. Went in and out around this shady looking house on k and Atlantic. She then went on Ontario and literally like vanished LOL couldn't find her.

If anyone got any info or something let me know guys.

[Cephlapod Love]

Hey guys pretty new to this.

Went out for a stroll Thurs for the first time unforantely on foot. I'm assuming it's easier to get in the mix if you were driving. Anyway it was pretty late seemed like most of were sleep or way too zombied. Any advice? And is there a rules for SW.

Welcome to the threads! Glad you could join us and thanks for the post! Hope it is the first of many.

Also kudos for asking questions and asking about rules and resources! It is smart to get an education from those that have gone before as the street is always willing to "teach" and those lessons can be harsh.

There ARE rules for SW's and any other kind of mongering one wishes to do. If you look on the front / main page of this site, look in the left hand column for a link to the "22 Rules for Street Walkers" That is kind of a mis-statemet as there are three posts in that link: the first AND the THIRD post have valuable "rules" for street pick ups. I think many miss the third post, which is a shame as good advice there too!

Also the point of posting here for most is to leave a record for others to find and use to get educated. Otherwise the threads are nothing more than testosterone: "Oh, look at what I banged!" So the history here is important and valuable. So I suggest going back on this SW thread and reading the last 6 months of posts. Yeah, sure, it will take some time and might take several sessions. But you want safety or you want easy?

My Advice? At the very minimum read those Rules until you have them internalized. When Sh*T goes down on the street, one doesn't have time to think back, now what was rule 13. So read them AT LEAST 3-times, maybe 3 times over three days. Second, recon, Recon, RECON! When I started I did recon for 3-months before making my fist scoop. One needs to know not only where the girls are likely to be found, who is likely out and when BUT where does LE hang out? When? Where do they hide? Where are they RIGHT NOW when you are going to make your scoop? What does a decoy look like? Where are places one can turn to make a scoop? What are the escape routes? Where might one take the girl for a date? And much more.

The point is that this is a very risky game. How you choose to manage risk is up to you. I prefer to manage risk through knowledge rather than avoid it through ignorance (lack of education).

Another point which you have a good start on. WHEN IN DOUBT: ASK QUESTIONS! When I started I asked a bunch of rookie questions. But because it was clear I had read the forums and wasn't asking a question that had been answered 4 posts prior, I found many helped! So read and ASK! Lots of experienced gents here willing to help those who give back and aren't just one-ways.

So Good luck! Happy Hunting!

CL
Mongering looks easy, good, consistently safe mongering is anything but easy!

[DarkSoulo]

Hey guys pretty new to this.

Went out for a stroll Thurs for the first time unforantely on foot. I'm assuming it's easier to get in the mix if you were driving. Anyway it was pretty late seemed like most of were sleep or way too zombied. Any advice? And is there a rules for SW.

[Bigtime Monger]

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[Texaco Tim]

Great link for info. Welcome to the board. TT.

[Guthrie]

The stroll seemed back to normal Wednesday night after 11:30.

Saw action from the bull dealer to Allegheny Ave. There were some at the other end on Jasper by Sargent but that area seems hot right now.

Met Kelly with short black hair at the corner of Little Lou's around 1:30. Never saw here before.

Medium height & built, nice booty.

The TS were also out in full force from Little Lou's to the bull dealer.

Also a couple zombies, one who was standing, eyes wide shut, with a cig. In her mouth.

There were bike patrols at the 7-11 and a couple of cars before 11:30.

After 12 I saw 0 LE.

[Ethol]

I was out cruising around over the holiday weekend and as I was doing my own personal "mental gymnastics" remembered this question.

Let me say this. As I was looking I was keenly aware of how much my "experience" fit into looking at who was available and who to pass by.

Bottom Line: If you see a girl dressed the way Hollywood portrays hookers, then that is most likely a decoy and I would NEVER approach her! If she stands out as compared to the rest of the girls out there or is TGTBT, then proceed with extreme caution! Now I know some dudes like the thrill of tempting fate and playing with fire. Talking to a likely decoy and seeing if they can "out" her as a cop or just talk and get away without doing anything illegal. I figure LE is gunna arrest ya whether guilty or not and let the lawyers work it out, so Ill not play that game.

But dress as a way to spot them? Hmmm, I guess that is part of it. I saw girls and instantly recognized the body type and clothes as a girl chasing meds. Then there was the way they were walking, what they were doing and finally the look. Was able to do that assessment from 1/4-mile away too. But that just goes to show what the numbers of hours I have put in on the streets has done to sharpen my eye.

So glean what one can from the the posts here, but give yourself time to observe and learn on the streets!

Mongering looks easy, good, consistently safe mongering is anything but easy!

CL.

For me the joy also includes actually spotting them and not letting them know you have done so. Sooner or later if you make the loops they will make some aggressive move for you to see them LOL.

[JCM2767]

JCM2767 Clear your mail box. Can't send a message.

Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

You should be able to pm me now. Just cleared some off my mailbox.

[Bruce Me]

Good advice, from my experience street walkers will give you eye contact back if you are looking at them from your car. A normal lady will definitely not. Also, SW is considered the lowest form of making money because they are taking the highest risk of catching a STD, getting hurt by a John or robbed by a John. These are very desperate addicts who will do something for. 20 Their rates will be at least 60% less than an incall. If the lady looks like a million bucks, trust me she is a plant and there will be a Philly cop within a 2 block radius ready to catch the John. One has to consider if a lady looks like a million bucks what is she doing there, which leads to a setup. Also, another thing for me is that a SW verbally articulates like a street person. Keep in mind that the odds are the SW has already been arrested.

I was out cruising around over the holiday weekend and as I was doing my own personal "mental gymnastics" remembered this question.

Let me say this. As I was looking I was keenly aware of how much my "experience" fit into looking at who was available and who to pass by.

Bottom Line: If you see a girl dressed the way Hollywood portrays hookers, then that is most likely a decoy and I would NEVER approach her! If she stands out as compared to the rest of the girls out there or is TGTBT, then proceed with extreme caution! Now I know some dudes like the thrill of tempting fate and playing with fire. Talking to a likely decoy and seeing if they can "out" her as a cop or just talk and get away without doing anything illegal. I figure LE is gunna arrest ya whether guilty or not and let the lawyers work it out, so Ill not play that game.

But dress as a way to spot them? Hmmm, I guess that is part of it. I saw girls and instantly recognized the body type and clothes as a girl chasing meds. Then there was the way they were walking, what they were doing and finally the look. Was able to do that assessment from 1/4-mile away too. But that just goes to show what the numbers of hours I have put in on the streets has done to sharpen my eye.

So glean what one can from the the posts here, but give yourself time to observe and learn on the streets!

Mongering looks easy, good, consistently safe mongering is anything but easy!

CL.