Massage Parlor Reports

[UlanFan]

I've been to a few spots and have had sex with the girls after a lame back rub.

Is there any place that does HJ only? I'm interested in getting a quality massage with a HE, no FS, even as an option. Any place that does this? If so what is the average price?

Thank you!

[Mongers Rus]

I thought the providers worked for themselves and are considered independent contractors who are responsible for their own paper work and what not, like strippers at a club.

If you work for an AMP, the owner of the AMP is responsible. If your independent that work by yourself no problem form a apartment. You can justify income. You AMP owner with girls rotating in / out, hard to justify or claim.

[LoseMoney23]

HPD is the only police dept in the state to not have a body cam pilot program, from my understanding.

Probably because the chief is as deep in shit as his officers are.

Probably because the chief is as deep in shit as his officers are. You hit the nail right in the head. Most officers would rather not wear body cameras because then they got to act like real HPD officers. Most would say I forgot to turn it on after I beat the shit out of the bastard because he was resisting. So I tasered him and used my baton to get his hands behind his back so I could put the cuffs on. You will be filmed so put your best behavior when you are on duty. And don't forget to erase the violent acts of your behavior when your put on paid leave for an internal investigation. Just my perception for those that are bad ass.

[LoseMoney23]

Probably because the chief is as deep in shit as his officers are. You hit the nail right in the head. Most officers would rather not wear body cameras because then they got to act like real HPD officers. Most would say I forgot to turn it on after I beat the shit out of the bastard because he was resisting. So I tasered him and used my baton to get his hands behind his back so I could put the cuffs on. You will be filmed so put your best behavior when you are on duty. And don't forget to erase the violent acts of your behavior when your put on paid leave for an internal investigation. Just my perception for those that are bad ass.

[Miri Kitani]

Doesn't matter what the law says for HPD hitting up on providers. Like Kaneshiro said on the news, he's not hitting on the providers, he's going after the owners. Just got word from a very good source that the owners of Ampz are getting letters from the Immigration Dept, to show up at 300 Ala Moana Blvd (Federal Building), and present all of your proof of providers employment, payroll statements, GE license, wage taxes, etc.

Now C'Mon., what percentage of these Ampz will be able to present all legal information and documents. Most of them will state that all transactions are cash, which is fine, but they will need to show a document trail of how much & who got the cash. Hmmm? Very low percentage. Providers come and go so fast, a lot w / o green cards. Working Visa, fine legal but no proof of wages. A lot of them Illegal Aliens, most of what Empire had. Most should survive this wave of crack downs, almost all will be fined. Some will not want the hassle and shut down, but they will all be heavily inconvenienced and think twice. One monger commented about Apmz disappearing. Could happen. For us Mongers sake, I don't think so, and hope not, but this wave of crack downs may be one of the most serious in recent times. Independent might be the way to go. No providers to employ.

Monger On soon, frequent and many!

Rus.

I thought the providers worked for themselves and are considered independent contractors who are responsible for their own paper work and what not, like strippers at a club.

[DangerBoy]

Hopefully body cameras are coming soon.

HPD is the only police dept in the state to not have a body cam pilot program, from my understanding.

Probably because the chief is as deep in shit as his officers are.

[BotoMoco]

What about MT owners? A lot employ unlicensed and anybody that wants to try out. I think they should also be at the Federal Building too.

Quote Originally Posted by MongersRus.

Doesn't matter what the law says for HPD hitting up on providers. Like Kaneshiro said on the news, he's not hitting on the providers, he's going after the owners. Just got word from a very good source that the owners of Ampz are getting letters from the Immigration Dept, to show up at 300 Ala Moana Blvd (Federal Building), and present all of your proof of providers employment, payroll statements, GE license, wage taxes, etc.

I heard the same thing about owners getting letters from Homeland Security. I think the unlicensed places will be going down if they don't come up with some creative bullshit on how they are employing all these girls. Its so transparent how can you hide from something like this.

[Shengnu888]

Doesn't matter what the law says for HPD hitting up on providers. Like Kaneshiro said on the news, he's not hitting on the providers, he's going after the owners. Just got word from a very good source that the owners of Ampz are getting letters from the Immigration Dept, to show up at 300 Ala Moana Blvd (Federal Building), and present all of your proof of providers employment, payroll statements, GE license, wage taxes, etc.

Now C'Mon., what percentage of these Ampz will be able to present all legal information and documents. Most of them will state that all transactions are cash, which is fine, but they will need to show a document trail of how much & who got the cash. Hmmm? Very low percentage. Providers come and go so fast, a lot w / o green cards. Working Visa, fine legal but no proof of wages. A lot of them Illegal Aliens, most of what Empire had. Most should survive this wave of crack downs, almost all will be fined. Some will not want the hassle and shut down, but they will all be heavily inconvenienced and think twice. One monger commented about Apmz disappearing. Could happen. For us Mongers sake, I don't think so, and hope not, but this wave of crack downs may be one of the most serious in recent times. Independent might be the way to go. No providers to employ.

Monger On soon, frequent and many!

Rus.

What about MT owners? A lot employ unlicensed and anybody that wants to try out. I think they should also be at the Federal Building too.

[Mongers Rus]

The pertinent wording in the basic prostitution law is that the law "shall not apply to any member of a police department, a sheriff or a law enforcement officer acting in the course and scope of duties, unless engaged in sexual penetration or sadomasochistic abuse". However, H.P.D. also has its own internal policy regarding what is and isn't permissible in prostitution investigations, but won't reveal its policy to the public. Of course, there's also the possibility of the law enforcement officer lying, which some are prone to do when there are no non-police witnesses (other than the suspect) and no audio or video recording that would contradict the officer's version of the encounter.

Doesn't matter what the law says for HPD hitting up on providers. Like Kaneshiro said on the news, he's not hitting on the providers, he's going after the owners. Just got word from a very good source that the owners of Ampz are getting letters from the Immigration Dept, to show up at 300 Ala Moana Blvd (Federal Building), and present all of your proof of providers employment, payroll statements, GE license, wage taxes, etc.

Now C'Mon., what percentage of these Ampz will be able to present all legal information and documents. Most of them will state that all transactions are cash, which is fine, but they will need to show a document trail of how much & who got the cash. Hmmm? Very low percentage. Providers come and go so fast, a lot w / o green cards. Working Visa, fine legal but no proof of wages. A lot of them Illegal Aliens, most of what Empire had. Most should survive this wave of crack downs, almost all will be fined. Some will not want the hassle and shut down, but they will all be heavily inconvenienced and think twice. One monger commented about Apmz disappearing. Could happen. For us Mongers sake, I don't think so, and hope not, but this wave of crack downs may be one of the most serious in recent times. Independent might be the way to go. No providers to employ.

Monger On soon, frequent and many!

Rus.

[Slide Hammer]

The pertinent wording in the basic prostitution law is that the law "shall not apply to any member of a police department, a sheriff or a law enforcement officer acting in the course and scope of duties, unless engaged in sexual penetration or sadomasochistic abuse". However, H.P.D. also has its own internal policy regarding what is and isn't permissible in prostitution investigations, but won't reveal its policy to the public. Of course, there's also the possibility of the law enforcement officer lying, which some are prone to do when there are no non-police witnesses (other than the suspect) and no audio or video recording that would contradict the officer's version of the encounter.

If true that's the most fucking ridiculous shit I've ever heard. How crazy is it that HPD has no checks and balances with even secret internal policies? Janky as fuck. We need to be able to watch these fools more closely.

Hopefully body cameras are coming soon.

[Redneck 1]

So what you're saying is the cops can show their dicks, get touchy freely, but no FIV or FIA or Sm stuff. And in theory a female cop could show her tits and vag (though I doubt you find any women that dedicated to their job with the HPD).

So the new LE check should be doing a little FIV or FIA and maybe a little spanking when meeting a new girl?

The pertinent wording in the basic prostitution law is that the law "shall not apply to any member of a police department, a sheriff or a law enforcement officer acting in the course and scope of duties, unless engaged in sexual penetration or sadomasochistic abuse". However, H.P.D. also has its own internal policy regarding what is and isn't permissible in prostitution investigations, but won't reveal its policy to the public. Of course, there's also the possibility of the law enforcement officer lying, which some are prone to do when there are no non-police witnesses (other than the suspect) and no audio or video recording that would contradict the officer's version of the encounter.

[DangerBoy]

The current version of Hawaii's basic prostitution law does not prohibit undercover investigating officers "from having any type of physical contact with providers". Rather, it only restricts officers from engaging in "sexual penetration or sadomasochistic abuse".

So what you're saying is the cops can show their dicks, get touchy freely, but no FIV or FIA or Sm stuff. And in theory a female cop could show her tits and vag (though I doubt you find any women that dedicated to their job with the HPD).

So the new LE check should be doing a little FIV or FIA and maybe a little spanking when meeting a new girl?

[G3504]

Anyone got info on this one http://honolulu.backpage.com/BodyRub...tion-/5503844. Type of services, do's and don'ts, etc. Lmk PM if needed. TIA.

[ShyGuy808]

Visit your favorite girl this week, so they don't leave on bacation. Best time is after a bust. I support the ones that use real pictures.

Amen Asstro. I couldn't agree more. I know I'm can't be described as a true source as I don't normally have much to say or post about but we all know who we can trust and who we can't. Not sure about further raids and such but I feel that the good parlors and girls will always be about giving the best services they can no matter what is going on. They might be more skeptical about newer mongers but think they will always take care of the ones they know and trust. I'm being kinda watchful of things these days but not going to stop seeing the girls I want to see and I know they appreciate that. Be safe but still have fun gang.

[Mongers Rus]

The current version of Hawaii's basic prostitution law does not prohibit undercover investigating officers "from having any type of physical contact with providers". Rather, it only restricts officers from engaging in "sexual penetration or sadomasochistic abuse".

I concur. HB1926.

Amends the offense of prostitution to include sadomasochistic abuse under the definition of "sexual conduct" and clarify that a law enforcement officer shall not be exempt from the offense if the law enforcement officer engages in sexual penetration or sadomasochistic abuse while acting in the course and scope of duties. Amends the offense of solicitation of a minor for prostitution. Clarifies sentencing of repeat offenders and enhanced sentences for repeat violent and sexual offenders. Amends the applicability of a deferred acceptance of guilty plea or nolo contendere plea. (HB1926 CD1).

Basically providers just need to be smart on how to handle undercovers. Most normal mongers would or should not negotiate tips before the deed. That should be the sign of LE. They trap you into offering or agreeing on a price, and that's it, your busted.