Massage Parlor Reports

[Redneck 1]

The law even stopped undercover from having any type of physical contact with providers.

The current version of Hawaii's basic prostitution law does not prohibit undercover investigating officers "from having any type of physical contact with providers". Rather, it only restricts officers from engaging in "sexual penetration or sadomasochistic abuse".

[Asstro]

If the majority of local mongers, out of fear, quit patronizing Honolulu AMPs, and the best providers decide to leave town for safer cities, I'm wondering if, regardless of what transpires in court, a bunch of the AMPs will go belly-up via customer and employee attrition? Maybe this is the bottom-line intended goal of the powers-that-be in this current situation?

Visit your favorite girl this week, so they don't leave on bacation. Best time is after a bust. I support the ones that use real pictures.

[Nutmaker]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ2oXzrnti4

Felt like Paula and I had Kison all to ourselves tonight. I don't recall hearing anything outside our room. Did some drive-bys and everything looked quiet around 2 am. I'm sure things will pick up again soon, just like always after someone goes down.

[Mongers Rus]

Kaneshiro didn't seem to have any problems retrying the game room case over and over again. Even if he loses, if he's willing to keep on retrying cases, he can easily make running an AMP an unprofitable enterprise just by dragging people into court over and over again.

Negative, that gambling case will probably make him lose re-election. AMPZ are here to stay. The law even stopped undercover from having any type of physical contact with providers. The only real thing that they go for is human trafficking, or providers working w / o green cards. It's hard to bust prostitution w / o contact, unless the provider was stupid enough to discuss sex for a dollar amount prior to the actual action. A provider can have sex with an undercover cop, never discuss $, or accept $, and the cop will have nothing on her. The GoGo provider was busted and probably didn't have a choice but to cooperate. I been amping since the 70's, pretty sure it's not going away. Monger on.

Rus.

[Mongers Rus]

This was just your one or two a year bust just for Public Satisfaction. As you can see by the three owners, they were greedy and didn't play by the AMP rules. You don't see all the other AMPz scared or shutting down, because they know that their covered. Kaneshiro had a big flop on the news regarding the gambling machine raids. Twice he failed with that bust. Now watch for the counter suits against the city for that failed prosecution and arrest.
Even cops got convicted for kicking guys in the face and throwing chairs.

Plus a GoGo's provider spilled the beans against these owners more than likely because they were treating her and their girls unfairly. AMPz been open for decades. They get raided, then reopen soon after. They provide good cover money for HPD. They just have to play the game. So keep on amping, or better yet, find a independent. AMPz are always the target because their exposed to the public.

Rus

[Cosmic Kid]

If the majority of local mongers, out of fear, quit patronizing Honolulu AMPs, and the best providers decide to leave town for safer cities, I'm wondering if, regardless of what transpires in court, a bunch of the AMPs will go belly-up via customer and employee attrition? Maybe this is the bottom-line intended goal of the powers-that-be in this current situation?

[LuvDafLavas]

Mahalos to all you braddahs out dea. I've never been to any of those "spas," but was seriously thinking of checking them out this eve. As you can see from my previous post, I'm looking for viet lily, and I heard she might be working at one of those spas at that building. But thanks to you guys writing about the very recent bust. I think I'll pass. Bummers, b-because junior is feeling energetic today.

[LuvDafLavas]

I think she goes by viet lily. I just knew her as lily. Waaaay back, in her rakuen days. Does anyone know if she is still around? And if she is still an AMP? If so, where or how can I get in touch with her?

[BotoMoco]

The question is, is this law going to be used as a real tool against the continued existence of AMPs or is it going to be used as a tool of coercion to get AMP owners to pay the fuck up. The other question is, how much of this is just talk? Talk for reelection, or just the usual PR spin elected officials shoot off ("The homeless is a challenging problem for our island ohana. We need more education for our keiki. Look at all the Hawaiian words I'm using. Rail is going to come in under budget. ") or do they really mean it (yeah, I'd be as surprised as you are if this is the case).

Also keep in mind that Kaneshiro has had a lousy track record when it comes to going up against this sort of thing past prostitution busts and the game room prosecutions. Seems almost personal now.

So if this is some Dudley Do-Right, the outlook is very, very bad. The best case scenario is that this just part of some shakedown by the HPD.

I think with the new sex trafficking law that is the game changer. Hawaii never had this before and since most of the girls come from another state its so easy to pin the owners for trafficking. This in turn corners the girl to work with the cops or feds identifying the mama etc. They for sure are not going to take the rap. They are just prostitutes. The owners and mamas are the ones they want to get. Probably along with trafficking there is going to be money laundering and tax evasion. You can just see how the prosecution will go in a case like this. I don't think we mongers have to worry they don't want us. We are just horny fuckers getting our load off. I don't think this will stop any of them though they all believe its not going to happen to them till it does.

[DangerBoy]

Additional supporting evidence could be condoms, lube, etc. , seized during the raid,

The description of and the arrangement of the whips, restraints and emphasis on condoms during the Hawaii News Now report made me chuckle. They'd find way more interesting things if the police raises a dorm at the UH.

[DangerBoy]

Although personally I hope that the GoGo Spa prosecution fails, it appears from news reports that the prosecutor will have some evidence of prostitution, because according to the prosecutor at least one provider and some "johns" are cooperating with the authorities. Additional supporting evidence could be condoms, lube, etc. , seized during the raid, and credit card transaction records (GoGo Spa advertised that it accepted credit cards). Also, the prosecution could offer one of the defendants (who has already been identified as less culpable) a sweet deal to become a witness for the government.

Kaneshiro didn't seem to have any problems retrying the game room case over and over again. Even if he loses, if he's willing to keep on retrying cases, he can easily make running an AMP an unprofitable enterprise just by dragging people into court over and over again.

[DangerBoy]

Well we all knew this was coming sooner or later. The new sex trafficking law will be a wake up call for mamas and owners. There is no way of getting around the sex trafficking because almost all the girls come from a different state to work here. So if you have 5 girls from Cali or NY that's 5 counts already of human or sex trafficking. The MP owners and Mamas may know the law and will not care because they make so much money but will realize just how serious trouble they will be in when the shit hits the fan. Will Gogo be the example of what's to come? Who knows. But I'm sure this won't be the last. Its all good till its not.

The question is, is this law going to be used as a real tool against the continued existence of AMPs or is it going to be used as a tool of coercion to get AMP owners to pay the fuck up. The other question is, how much of this is just talk? Talk for reelection, or just the usual PR spin elected officials shoot off ("The homeless is a challenging problem for our island ohana. We need more education for our keiki. Look at all the Hawaiian words I'm using. Rail is going to come in under budget. ") or do they really mean it (yeah, I'd be as surprised as you are if this is the case).

Also keep in mind that Kaneshiro has had a lousy track record when it comes to going up against this sort of thing — past prostitution busts and the game room prosecutions. Seems almost personal now.

So if this is some Dudley Do-Right, the outlook is very, very bad. The best case scenario is that this just part of some shakedown by the HPD.

[Redneck 1]

Remember, the last go around, the girls were arrested for sexual assault. All the charges were dropped because they couldn't prove anything.

How can they prove that Gogo Spa was profiting from prostitution if they can't prove prostitution was occurring in the first place.

All Gogo Spa does is rent rooms for an hour to spend time relaxing with a staff member. Why is that an illegal business?

The only illegal thing would be if their employees were not legally employed or contracted. Or, they didn't pay for their business licenses.

Although personally I hope that the GoGo Spa prosecution fails, it appears from news reports that the prosecutor will have some evidence of prostitution, because according to the prosecutor at least one provider and some "johns" are cooperating with the authorities. Additional supporting evidence could be condoms, lube, etc., seized during the raid, and credit card transaction records (GoGo Spa advertised that it accepted credit cards). Also, the prosecution could offer one of the defendants (who has already been identified as less culpable) a sweet deal to become a witness for the government.

[Blake123]

Remember, the last go around, the girls were arrested for sexual assault. All the charges were dropped because they couldn't prove anything.

How can they prove that Gogo Spa was profiting from prostitution if they can't prove prostitution was occurring in the first place.

All Gogo Spa does is rent rooms for an hour to spend time relaxing with a staff member. Why is that an illegal business?

The only illegal thing would be if their employees were not legally employed or contracted. Or, they didn't pay for their business licenses.

They did find articles that normally wouldn't be present in a legit massage establishment--such as condoms, whips, etc. Circumstantial evidence, I suppose?

[DarthTyranus]

I could not help but noticing all these busts involve Chinese operators. Hmmm. Too bad. These places had some of the hottest providers who gave us mongers great service. RIP Mayflower & Empire. Damn it.

K2.

Incidentally, if I remember correctly Empire closed in August 2015. Memories, RIP Empire.