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**AlohaJ** · 07-23-16 14:36

So a few weeks ago, a fellow monger and I went back and forth on a review I wrote. Some people wasn't happy about me not listing the providers name and place of business. The exchanges got out of hand some and looking back, they were right, I should have provided more details on the provider. But in the process of going back and forth, one of my posts violated terms of this forum (what infraction is still in question) but for that infraction, I was penalized and now all my posts have to reviewed before released. My question is, how long do I have to wait until I regain my senior status back and have the ability to post without being reviewed?

Your answer is in the Special Restrictions you violated which are posted at the top of every Honolulu thread.

"The 1st violation will result in the perpetrator being placed on Permanent Moderation status."

Permanently would be the answer. We told you we would do it before you did it. Now we are simply doing what we told you we would. If you're wondering if the second part of that will also happen, yes it will. If you do it again I'll ban your username.

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**AlohaJ** · 07-23-16 14:28

I would tend to agree, but posting someone's pic on any internet site without her consent is wrong, any way you look at it. Just because she allows a photo to be taken doesn't mean you get to do with it anything you want. In my opinion, if you take a photo of a lady, simply ask her if she minds if you post it on this site so that people know who they are setting an appointment with. I would tend to say, after seeing the photo, she will likely see an increase to her customer base. It should be more about respecting the ladies. There is also something others have not brought up and that's legality issues because there was a certain level of expectation to privacy on her part. If she didn't give consent, then there is a possibility of legal recourse for his actions. But that's my opinion.

You need to look up something called "fair use." If you're reviewing something you can use their material to do so. You can't use it for commercial purposes and we, the operators of the site, are not.

That doesn't mean I don't often take them down. It means that you can post pics of hookers that are commercial sex workers when you are reviewing them.

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**HonoluluGirl** · 07-23-16 14:11

Originally Posted by CosmicKid [View Original Post]

HG baby, what you wrote is nothing but fucking long-winded beside-the-point bullshit obfuscation, in Cosmic Kid's most groveling and humble opinion. I mean, honey-pants, you conclude your circuitous meandering driveling commentary with, "So you see, there might be more to flaking than meets the eye. " Well, no, not really! Actually the definition of "flaking" is straightforward and not psycho-twitch at all: If you agree to see someone, and the two of you agree to an appointment time, and then subsequently you ditch without explanation or warning, THIS is what is meant by "flaking", pure and fucking simple, none of the shit you said about lions and tigers or whatever else metaphors applies here. If you of your own free will agree to do something with someone, then you bail on them, this is a clear breach of TRUST on your part. It's like that old Peanuts cartoon. You guys remember that one? Lucy holds the football for Charley Brown and he runs to kick but that ***** pulls the ball and Charley Brown falls on his ass? No matter how many times Peanuts ran variations on that cartoon theme it was always funny! End of story. I'm done with this convo.

CK out!

The operative word is "if. " Yes, "if" I agreed that would be true. But I don't know how you could speak of your personal experiences with me, when I don't see you. I don't stand you up. I don't make you wait. I simply don't want to see you. And I told you that. Politely, professionally, via PM, which is the same way you PM me. You might want to mention your veritable behind the scenes campaign to see me and I have always declined. I would never use a public forum like this to have that conversation, but you got a bee in your bonnet about me and did one of your unexpected posts. With all of the negative things you have said about me, although you only saw me once, circa 2014, why would you want to make an appointment, and why would you expect a targeted person to agree to see you? Anyone who looks over your history of posts about me will probably understand that I wanted to spend my time doing anything but seeing you. Lambasting someone who is not interested in meeting with you might be counterproductive if you wanted a fresh start.

Summary: CK's premise is correct. IF I had agreed to see someone and THEN stood the person up with nary a word, that would simply be wrong. Of course. I don't like all of this public ugliness, and I think personal matters should be handled in the appropriately named "private" message. Thus concludes the subject for me. This is the last negative message of this ilk from this monger I will dignify with a response. Thank you.

**Viet Whisperer** · 07-23-16 11:30

Originally Posted by RiverRat22 [View Original Post]

I intentionally picked one that made it impossible to identify her. I along with many others have much more exposed pics, that if we truly were all fucking dickheads we would post them. Which Sweet sisters pic? You mean Nikki's sister?

Yes. That one you can easily tell who they are. I agree with you about not being dickheads as I have quite a few pics / vids I would never think of posting myself. Before the pm flood starts they aren't of Monica or Nikki and no I won't send them to you LOL.

**Goser** · 07-23-16 08:01

Originally Posted by RiverRat22 [View Original Post]

What a bunch of fucking drama queens! Monica is in no way depressed, I didn't hear anything about it during my session. Some of you guys almost take the plus out of even perusing this board. Almost. Nothing about that picture compromised Monica. It did give people a good idea of what they're going to get if they want to see her. And to all the many guys giving me thumbs up PM's Thank You!

Actually, the only thing it does is give us an idea of what an idiot you are. I think that Monica should post a picture of you on this message board and see how you like it. I'll bet you wouldn't be happy about it.

I haven't seen Monica in over 5 years. That a really tight body for an older provider. How old is Monica now? She must be pushing 60.

**RiverRat22** · 07-23-16 05:24

Originally Posted by VietWhisperer [View Original Post]

I've been with her and I wouldn't be able to tell you that was her if someone didn't say it. The pic doesn't show much. Any pic she allows is probably going to show up someday somewhere. Now that Sweet sisters pic is a whole different ballgame!

I intentionally picked one that made it impossible to identify her. I along with many others have much more exposed pics, that if we truly were all fucking dickheads we would post them. Which Sweet sisters pic? You mean Nikki's sister?

**Viet Whisperer** · 07-22-16 23:42

Originally Posted by RiverRat22 [View Original Post]

What a bunch of fucking drama queens! Monica is in no way depressed, I didn't hear anything about it during my session. Some of you guys almost take the plus out of even perusing this board. Almost. Nothing about that picture compromised Monica. It did give people a good idea of what they're going to get if they want to see her. And to all the many guys giving me thumbs up PM's Thank You!

I've been with her and I wouldn't be able to tell you that was her if someone didn't say it. The pic doesn't show much. Any pic she allows is probably going to show up someday somewhere. Now that Sweet sisters pic is a whole different ballgame!

**RiverRat22** · 07-22-16 10:04

What a bunch of fucking drama queens! Monica is in no way depressed, I didn't hear anything about it during my session. Some of you guys almost take the plus out of even perusing this board. Almost. Nothing about that picture compromised Monica. It did give people a good idea of what they're going to get if they want to see her. And to all the many guys giving me thumbs up PM's Thank You!

**Memahu** · 07-22-16 04:08

Originally Posted by BenFrank [View Original Post]

Saw the YouTube of Korean plastic surgery and was amazed. Go check it out. Those MDs are magicians. Ugly ducking turning into beautiful swans. Made me wonder how many girls in this business have had surgery on their faces, in addition to getting some bolt-ons, and what they look like before.

Is that why they provide better service because of insecurities of their original facial features?

**AlohaJ** · 07-22-16 01:50

I will have to agree with Cosmic Kid on this one. Canceling an appointment and simply not showing up are two completely different things. Again this is my opinion. Calling someone and explaining to them your situation or issue and telling them they may want to seek someone else shows respect for the client and their time. Simply not showing up or failing to answer your door is completely disrespectful and to be honest pretty damn rude. I'm pretty sure If someone makes an appointment with you and doesn't show up, you get made and will likely black list them, because your time is money. The same goes for your clients. Some plan for weeks, sometimes taking time off work to meet the lady they want to see, and I would not blame them at all if they get angry and post not so nice things. You earn respect by giving respect.

**Viet Whisperer** · 07-22-16 00:18

Originally Posted by HonoluluGirl [View Original Post]

Yes, absolutely, I cancel appointments. Back in January I was in a bike accident (I don't drive) and with the injuries and upheavel I am certain things got away from me. I cannot discount the possibility of human error. When I introduced my welI known "practice sessions" in December 2015, the amount of people who contacted me increased 10 fold. More people contacted me than I thought even read my posts / ads. I was absolutely astounded and totally unprepared to convert the flood of demand into face to face contact. A rough, but rewarding winter, especially after the reviews of my new promotions came out. I take full responsibility for any slips. Believe me, I had nothing to gain and everything to lose by missing appointments. If that happened to you, contact me. I believe no one us perfect, but everyone should try to fix errors of imperfection.

There is another factor at work in these recent posts. I have learned that people I don't want to see, or see again, do not go quietly into that good night. I am powerless over individuals who post damaging misinformation because I refused to even make an appointment. I wonʻt name names because no good comes from putting people on blast. Moreover, it is impossible for anyone to deserve negative exposure because I don't have the right to cause people harm. How others treat me is irrelavent to my personal standards for interacting with others. Can you imagine providers getting even with hobbyists who rightfully exercise their discretion and choose different women? What an absurd idea! Welcome to my world. Yet, I think there is a definite bright side. Interested hobbyists will look over the history of the chatty posters, and they will see. Well, I will let them tell you what they see. I just love nerdy types like me who revel in research and who learned the meaning of the word "archive" years before knowing how to pronounce it!

Like Cosmic Kid said I don't think you are getting the point and all the long winded musings is really not helping your case. It's simple keep appointments or notify people if you need to cancel for any reason. It's just good business. If you fix that you won't continue to deal with the flake term. People give providers many chances in general. A few recent mentions that you've fixed this issue and you can put it behind you.

**Cosmic Kid** · 07-21-16 21:05

Originally Posted by HonoluluGirl [View Original Post]

Scadenfreude is pleasure derived from another person's misfortunes. In previous posts I spoke of my screening process before a person arrives at my door. I have a point of view that most men do not, and that is the point if view of someone who will, in all but rare cases, be physically overpowered by men. And the nature of my activities requires me to be locked in with someone who I cannot outfight. Therefore I must use the information I have to obviate the need to fight by utilizing wit. I suppose mankind has done this for eons or lions and tigers and bears would rule the world. I get my information through observing how I am treated prior to the session. Any sign of disrespect or possible bullying behavior and I won't go through with the session. After the session I read the reviews. If they are negative but honest AND apparently motivated by a desire to benefit the hobby, I am the first one to send the reviewer a pm, guaranteeing I will make the requested changes. Look back on my reviews from a respected senior member who crowned me most improved. But if I get a review that is honest, which is always useful, but is unnecessarily mean, contemptuous, disrespectful, and generally hurtful, this indicates, to me anyway, a delight in hurting me. I will not see that person again for I will not reward Scadenfreude. Am I an alarmist, perhaps overly cautious and sometimes downright wrong? Evidently, yes. But I know no other way to protect myself other than to attempt to discern ill will and avoid it. If I have erred and pulled the plug on a person unecessarily, I'd love to hear from you, if you would like to attempt a fresh start since I really don't know you. In these cases, I am sorry. But if you have a history of gratuitously mean posts, I will exercise my right to refuse anyone service.

So you see, there might be more to "flaking" than meets the eye.

HG baby, what you wrote is nothing but fucking long-winded beside-the-point bullshit obfuscation, in Cosmic Kid's most groveling and humble opinion. I mean, honey-pants, you conclude your circuitous meandering driveling commentary with, "So you see, there might be more to flaking than meets the eye. " Well, no, not really! Actually the definition of "flaking" is straightforward and not psycho-twitch at all: If you agree to see someone, and the two of you agree to an appointment time, and then subsequently you ditch without explanation or warning, THIS is what is meant by "flaking", pure and fucking simple, none of the shit you said about lions and tigers or whatever else metaphors applies here. If you of your own free will agree to do something with someone, then you bail on them, this is a clear breach of TRUST on your part. It's like that old Peanuts cartoon. You guys remember that one? Lucy holds the football for Charley Brown and he runs to kick but that ***** pulls the ball and Charley Brown falls on his ass? No matter how many times Peanuts ran variations on that cartoon theme it was always funny! End of story. I'm done with this convo.

CK out!

**Admin2** · 07-21-16 18:45

Why do so many of you guys insist on wasting your time?

Yes, there are a few trolls here that keep making new users. It's what happens with free forums. Why do some of you guys insist on "calling them out?" You know I'll take care of it if you clue me in. If it's a shill I'll "edit" their reports. If it's a troll and I'm not understanding that they are a troll and you explain why and I agree I'll run them.

Read the restrictions in the yellow part above. This dickweed is really good at getting you to break them. Don't. Just report the post.

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**HonoluluGirl** · 07-21-16 15:10

Yes, absolutely, I cancel appointments. Back in January I was in a bike accident (I don't drive) and with the injuries and upheavel I am certain things got away from me. I cannot discount the possibility of human error. When I introduced my welI known "practice sessions" in December 2015, the amount of people who contacted me increased 10 fold. More people contacted me than I thought even read my posts / ads. I was absolutely astounded and totally unprepared to convert the flood of demand into face to face contact. A rough, but rewarding winter, especially after the reviews of my new promotions came out. I take full responsibility for any slips. Believe me, I had nothing to gain and everything to lose by missing appointments. If that happened to you, contact me. I believe no one us perfect, but everyone should try to fix errors of imperfection.

There is another factor at work in these recent posts. I have learned that people I don't want to see, or see again, do not go quietly into that good night. I am powerless over individuals who post damaging misinformation because I refused to even make an appointment. I wonʻt name names because no good comes from putting people on blast. Moreover, it is impossible for anyone to deserve negative exposure because I don't have the right to cause people harm. How others treat me is irrelavent to my personal standards for interacting with others. Can you imagine providers getting even with hobbyists who rightfully exercise their discretion and choose different women? What an absurd idea! Welcome to my world. Yet, I think there is a definite bright side. Interested hobbyists will look over the history of the chatty posters, and they will see. Well, I will let them tell you what they see. I just love nerdy types like me who revel in research and who learned the meaning of the word "archive" years before knowing how to pronounce it!

**Viet Whisperer** · 07-21-16 12:14

Originally Posted by HonoluluGirl [View Original Post]

Scadenfreude is pleasure derived from another person's misfortunes. In previous posts I spoke of my screening process before a person arrives at my door. I have a point of view that most men do not, and that is the point if view of someone who will, in all but rare cases, be physically overpowered by men. And the nature of my activities requires me to be locked in with someone who I cannot outfight. Therefore I must use the information I have to obviate the need to fight by utilizing wit. I suppose mankind has done this for eons or lions and tigers and bears would rule the world. I get my information through observing how I am treated prior to the session. Any sign of disrespect or possible bullying behavior and I won't go through with the session. After the session I read the reviews. If they are negative but honest AND apparently motivated by a desire to benefit the hobby, I am the first one to send the reviewer a pm, guaranteeing I will make the requested changes. Look back on my reviews from a respected senior member who crowned me most improved. But if I get a review that is honest, which is always useful, but is unnecessarily mean, contemptuous, disrespectful, and generally hurtful, this indicates, to me anyway, a delight in hurting me. I will not see that person again for I will not reward Scadenfreude. Am I an alarmist, perhaps overly cautious and sometimes downright wrong? Evidently, yes. But I know no other way to protect myself other than to attempt to discern ill will and avoid it. If I have erred and pulled the plug on a person unecessarily, I'd love to hear from you, if you would like to attempt a fresh start since I really don't know you. In these cases, I am sorry. But if you have a history of gratuitously mean posts, I will exercise my right to refuse anyone service.

So you see, there might be more to "flaking" than meets the eye.

I don't know you and have never attempted to contact you. You have some valid reasoning behind why you won't see someone from what I just read. Why not just tell them you aren't going to see them or that you are canceling? Leaving people hanging or wasting their time is always going to hurt your reputation. If someone told me they had to cancel even if it was for a bs reason in my opinion I would not be upset.