The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

[PghGuy2005]

...Because of my job I am able to meet daytimes for coffee, lunch, or private fun. Regardless of whether the meet is at a FC or platonic lunch date (no sugar), just the fact of spending time with these hot young girls keeps me happy, energized, and loving life. No lie: As I type this I've had one 21 year old girl I met at the FC yesterday text me saying what a great time she had, and another 18 year old hardbodied student athlete text me asking why we didn't meet this week and if I'm losing interest LOL. I just don't have the time!

Thank God I've never come across an obvious mental case, but NONE of my SB's have ever known my real name (nor to be honest do I think they care). Each one has been disappointed when the relationship ended, but it never got past expressing disappointment via text to my Google Voice number. Always be careful, because you never know!

Meeting in public for the first time is mandatory, not only for safety but to really get to know the other person in a non-stressful environment. Any girls that suggest a first meet at a FC are immediately disqualified. Not judging others that go forward with that, it's just a preference. I do like to know someone a bit before moving forward.

I have the constraint of being able to play only during the day as I am alone only when at work! And I state the requirement of day time availability only up front. Do you indicate your availability in the first message to POTs? I have gotten very few responses from SBs of any age / race and the ones who responded each one suggested the first meeting in FC and along with their expectation $ and the ones who do not give their expectation $ in their response readily do once I ask them. So it is basically mongering except off a different site!

Your experience is very different from mine may be the reason is once I indicate day time meeting only all SBs assume that I am interested only in FC as a result only the escorts respond!

[YayaGogo]

Exactly how far afield do you go to assure that neither your SO nor someone who knows your SO sees you with the POT at the M&G? I have done a grand total of 1 and it was a couple of towns over (in California that's a lot of people).

This isn't a spy novel. There honestly are so many discrete coffee places to meet within 15-20 minutes of my location (by highway) that I simply pick one at a time of day that nobody drinks coffee and am good to go. Of course pick a private table or area where it is tough for others to see / hear you.

[EcuGuy74]

My MO may be a bit different. I am enticed by the younger girls, however my thoughts go to being seen in public. I have been sticking to the ones that are closer in age to be. That way if I do run into someone I know, it looks more like I am with a friend from high school or college verses out with one of my daughter's friends. I have had two meetings. One was really my type but she has some other stuff going on and says that I am out of her league. Flattering for sure. The second, has the best personality and was really just looking for some fun with out a lot of financial requirements. We are supposed to meet and have some fun in the coming weeks.

A lot of these girls are just way to stuck on themselves and I am sure they are great in the sack, just not what I am looking for.

I have talked with Tristan and she is a bit far, but I am still sucked in by that kind of nerdy look. I would love to know more details about her if possible. PM or post is fine.

[MbncMar]

Seeking fun in Dunn and Tristan will do a 3 some. It was great. Seeking fun has a tight body and not tits but has oral skills. Trisatan is nerdy with an amazing body and not orally inclined. I stacked them up and banged both. It was awesome.

[FarFarAway]

Speaking for myself, I do have a SO. Because of my job I am able to meet daytimes for coffee, lunch, or private fun. Regardless of whether the meet is at a FC or platonic lunch date (no sugar), just the fact of spending time with these hot young girls keeps me happy, energized, and loving life. No lie: As I type this I've had one 21 year old girl I met at the FC yesterday text me saying what a great time she had, and another 18 year old hardbodied student athlete text me asking why we didn't meet this week and if I'm losing interest LOL. I just don't have the time!

Thank God I've never come across an obvious mental case, but NONE of my SB's have ever known my real name (nor to be honest do I think they care). Each one has been disappointed when the relationship ended, but it never got past expressing disappointment via text to my Google Voice number. Always be careful, because you never know!

Meeting in public for the first time is mandatory, not only for safety but to really get to know the other person in a non-stressful environment. Any girls that suggest a first meet at a FC are immediately disqualified. Not judging others that go forward with that, it's just a preference. I do like to know someone a bit before moving forward.

Exactly how far afield do you go to assure that neither your SO nor someone who knows your SO sees you with the POT at the M&G? I have done a grand total of 1 and it was a couple of towns over (in California that's a lot of people).

[Donatello]

Yeah great advice. I ended up getting hooked on the last one and decided to give it all up afterwards. I've also had pretty much every single other one hooked on me and when I told them the arrangement was done, every single one without an exception told me they didn't care and wished to continue to see me. Most did. Dangerous world man. I'm done with the bowl though.

Yeah. It happens sometimes. I generally do a pretty dolid job of keeping my emotions in check, but the heart sometimes takes over. I was lucky I didn't start falling for a fruitloop psycho *****. But rather a very sweet practical girl who kept everything grounded. All experiences provide something to learn from.

[Donatello]

Donatello: How do you know the numbers. Are these active accounts? I've always assumed there is competition, but never knew how many.

One of my recent SB flings logged in through her account and showed me her inbox, and the kind of messages she was getting on a daily basis. It was eye-opening, and very consistent with things I'd heard from other girls I'd met from the sight.

[Monfortu]

On a different note, do not offer payment for meet and greets. There are lots of women who have no intentions of following through and entering into a relationship with anyone. They want to meet you, have dinner and expect to get a payment and then you never hear from them again. Unless they think they can squeeze a few more dates like that from you. I usually tell the women, I'll go out for dinner and drinks all you want and pay for that, but no allowance until we enter into a relationship. It weeds out the fakes quickly. I am perfectly capable of finding women to wine and dine anytime I want. I don't need to hand her $300 for a dinner date.

Also, do not allow these women to become emotionally dependent on you. It's easy to do. I've had it happen myself and been emotionally involved with more than one. I fall for women easily. You have to keep it real and what it is and isn't. The relationship, will ultimately come to an end and unless you want a psycho girl after you, keep it in check with her. If you start getting mutual feelings, back off. If you do not, you will regret it.

Yeah great advice. I ended up getting hooked on the last one and decided to give it all up afterwards. I've also had pretty much every single other one hooked on me and when I told them the arrangement was done, every single one without an exception told me they didn't care and wished to continue to see me. Most did. Dangerous world man. I'm done with the bowl though.

[DirtyDeeds38]

On a different note, do not offer payment for meet and greets. There are lots of women who have no intentions of following through and entering into a relationship with anyone. They want to meet you, have dinner and expect to get a payment and then you never hear from them again. Unless they think they can squeeze a few more dates like that from you. I usually tell the women, I'll go out for dinner and drinks all you want and pay for that, but no allowance until we enter into a relationship. It weeds out the fakes quickly. I am perfectly capable of finding women to wine and dine anytime I want. I don't need to hand her $300 for a dinner date.

Also, do not allow these women to become emotionally dependent on you. It's easy to do. I've had it happen myself and been emotionally involved with more than one. I fall for women easily. You have to keep it real and what it is and isn't. The relationship, will ultimately come to an end and unless you want a psycho girl after you, keep it in check with her. If you start getting mutual feelings, back off. If you do not, you will regret it.

[DirtyDeeds38]

I will have no problem walking away from younger SBs if they refuse or ask for mine but with the older ones who at least with me have behaved properly like adults I may be uncomfortable giving the impression that I'm invading their privacy. BTW what is the point of this exercise? Simply to ascertain that the SB is of legal age?

I think my post explains itself. Many girls appear older than they are. If you don't cover your ass, you run the risk. I always ask for ID, unless they appear clearly thirty or older to me, I'm not going anywhere with them. I do agree on the mature thing. I prefer women with a little experience under the belt in the real world. But if we are talking a woman with three kids and our age, what's the point of sugar dating? We can all do that anytime. The post was just a reminder to be careful. Many get caught up in this sugar dating and forget the potential ramifications. A girl lying about her age is not a defense. Don't believe me, use google and research for yourself.

[PghGuy2005]

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The second piece of advise, is ALWAYS make them show you government issued I'd..

I will have no problem walking away from younger SBs if they refuse or ask for mine but with the older ones who at least with me have behaved properly like adults I may be uncomfortable giving the impression that I'm invading their privacy. BTW what is the point of this exercise? Simply to ascertain that the SB is of legal age?

[YayaGogo]

Plus, the SB potential in this area is high, while the number of quality SDs seem low. (I specify "quality" because the fact is that the males on SA outnumber the girls in our area almost 10 to one. And most SB gals might get interest from 10-15 or more before actually meeting.) So above all, be a gentleman.

Donatello: How do you know the numbers. Are these active accounts? I've always assumed there is competition, but never knew how many.

[YayaGogo]

Speaking for myself, I do have a SO. Because of my job I am able to meet daytimes for coffee, lunch, or private fun. Regardless of whether the meet is at a FC or platonic lunch date (no sugar), just the fact of spending time with these hot young girls keeps me happy, energized, and loving life. No lie: As I type this I've had one 21 year old girl I met at the FC yesterday text me saying what a great time she had, and another 18 year old hardbodied student athlete text me asking why we didn't meet this week and if I'm losing interest LOL. I just don't have the time!

You need to be aware of a few things about the bowl. Things I've stumbled upon in my experiences there. Number one, is some of these girls are jaded and will play a roll for you. Many are under the radar and will become vengeful if you cut them off, or do not send them money when they ask.

Also, meet in public the first time, always. No matter if they are willing to jump right into sex. You have to judge and gauge their character. And it makes for a better experience anyhow. Remember all women can be crazy, but many of these girls are really pre-dispositioned to being crazy or they wouldn't be in the bowl in the first place.

Thank God I've never come across an obvious mental case, but NONE of my SB's have ever known my real name (nor to be honest do I think they care). Each one has been disappointed when the relationship ended, but it never got past expressing disappointment via text to my Google Voice number. Always be careful, because you never know!

Meeting in public for the first time is mandatory, not only for safety but to really get to know the other person in a non-stressful environment. Any girls that suggest a first meet at a FC are immediately disqualified. Not judging others that go forward with that, it's just a preference. I do like to know someone a bit before moving forward.

[DirtyDeeds38]

You need to be aware of a few things about the bowl. Things I've stumbled upon in my experiences there. Number one, is some of these girls are jaded and will play a roll for you. Many are under the radar and will become vengeful if you cut them off, or do not send them money when they ask. I've had one girl attempt to blackmail me and all we did was meet for dinner. I set her straight quick, as I always save all communications and often record my encounters with them an audio to protect myself. The girl I saw, we had dinner and one drink and talked. She seemed nice. No sex, no nothing! Later the next day she demanded I send her a Western union payment and I immediately told her I don't do that. She kept on and offered all sorts of things via text. I declined, and did not wish to engage with her. Then she sends me a text, "if you don't send me $300 within two hours, everyone will find out what we did and what happened. " I let her know I was going to the police myself if she said another word. I sent her screen shots of all her texts and said, "one more word and I will call the police. " Never heard from her again.

The second piece of advise, is ALWAYS make them show you government issued I'd. If a girl lies about being 18, you're still on the hook for sexual assault if she is underage. However, in NC, the age of consent is actually 16, but none of us should be playing with any girl under 18. I find that disgusting, even if it's legal. I actually prefer mid- twenties, as by then, they usually have been around a while and you don't feel like you are taking advantage of them. Some of you might be into that, but it's wrong. If she doesn't have I'd, don't do anything with her. Just leave. I met a girl once for fifteen minutes, she said she was 19. She looked 19, or older to me, but she didn't have ID. We sat and talked and I told her that was it until she got her ID. She never did, so I wondered. Some girls can be 15 or 16 and look 20-25. It happens and her lying is not a defense in a criminal proceeding. You'd be fucked for life.

Also, meet in public the first time, always. No matter if they are willing to jump right into sex. You have to judge and gauge their character. And it makes for a better experience anyhow. Remember all women can be crazy, but many of these girls are really pre-dispositioned to being crazy or they wouldn't be in the bowl in the first place.

[Donatello]

So you guys are having a ball in the bowl! Are you guys single / unattached? To be able to take SBs out to dinner and other places. Hard to believe that being single and having the wisdom that comes with age makes it so easy to score with the babes!

Keep your stories coming we can at least live the good life vicariously!

I can't speak for others but I, myself, am single. My reasons for diving into the sugar pool from time to time are varied and complex. Much as Thresh has pointed out, each SD is different, as are each POT. Researching the boards are helpful, but there's no substitute for actual experience. Just need to be aware of what works, and what doesn't, and learn from it so you can "Groundhog Day" your way to better successs.

Plus, the SB potential in this area is high, while the number of quality SDs seem low. (I specify "quality" because the fact is that the males on SA outnumber the girls in our area almost 10 to one. And most SB gals might get interest from 10-15 or more before actually meeting.) So above all, be a gentleman.