Massage Parlor Reports

[Garbonzo]

Okay, so I'm helping my friend set up a legit massage shop. No HE of any kind. Just good very strong pressure massage. The perpetual problem for her is this: Guys come to the shop and ask or hint for extras...So here's the question: If you are legit therapist and have a legit shop, what should the shop / therapist do to avoid the problem? My main idea is to somehow make sure the customer knows, before he's paid any money, that it's a legit massage.

I don't know if this would work in Chicago -- if I heard this and wanted a legitimate massage, I might be spooked off because of reverse psychology -- but once I wanted to find a totally legit massage parlor and was told over the phone that's all they did, so I felt comfortable going.

I worked in Center City Philadelphia for a while, where every third storefront is a blacked-out door and window with only a street number on the outside -- all of them Korean places, all FS 1st visit no questions asked. (The Chinese places would have a show of a reflexology chart and hours of operation posted in the front window, which while curtained was not blacked-out, and you'd have a solo stand-up shower and only a HE.).

About 8:30 one night, my back was starting to kill me. I knew it would be hard to get into the one Chinese place (there was usually only one in business at a time) at that hour as they closed at 10 pm, but if I did at least I'd get a strong workover on my back before the flip. No dice; they were booked solid. Not having any other ideas, I went to Yelp, and found a massage spa pretty much in the vice bullseye in Center City -- in fact, I recognized the street address as being one of the Korean places. But the Yelp comments made it seem like maybe this wasn't a place offering extras. Also, they closed at 10 pm, while all the FS places were 2 am or 4 am, so I figured, "what the hell. ".

I called and asked the lady who answered the phone, "I know it's late, but do you have any openings for a deep tissue massage tonight?" She said, "We don't do happy endings. " It sounded like she was about to hang up, and I blurted out, "perfect!" I don't know if her arm was in mid-swing to hang up, or she was taken aback by that, but after a pause she said, "OK, you can come in at 9 pm for a one hour deep tissue massage. Our address is X and we're on the 2nd floor. Not the 3rd floor. ".

I buzzed the front door's 2nd floor button (which said something like "legitimate massage" on it) -- it turns out the 3rd floor had the FS place -- said I had a 9 pm appointment, and went upstairs. A older Chinese lady was at the reception desk, asked me if I was {Garbonzo} and had just called, etc. She asked, "where is your pain?" I said, "neck, shoulders, small of the back, and the left glute and hamstring. " She said, "we don't do happy endings. " I said, "Good, I don't want that. " So I got put in a curtained room, had a great massage with a masseuse who wasn't afraid to really work the muscle (wait, that sounded wrong, I mean the actual knotted muscles), and worked on my glutes and thighs without any sensual hint.

The real way I could tell it wasn't an AMP? The Chinese lady who met me, who while older was thin and toned and obviously worked out; she was wearing some band t-shirt and slim-fit jeans that showed off her very nice ass, but were definitely street clothes. I don't know how to define it but she looked like the exact opposite of every MS I've ever seen in any Chinese MP.

Long story short -- instead of just posting those signs we all laugh at, maybe a verbal statement on the call &/ or at the desk? Not "we only do legitimate massages" because we'll all chuckle and nod at that, but "no happy endings" sends a very different message.

Good luck!

[Hellatrouble123]

She's pregnant as I saw her fb. She looks hot but heard from other friends she is legit.

Just a tease. Would love to know if otherwise.

Has anyone been with Tracy? She advertises a lot but recently her ads are more provocative.

http://illinois.backpage.com/Therape...l-now/38336775

[Dwd1982]

Has anyone been with Tracy? She advertises a lot but recently her ads are more provocative.

http://illinois.backpage.com/Therape...l-now/38336775

[PwnLife]

Hey guys, went back and while 3 girls are out front I keep getting the older ones. There is this one young gal in a while dress. Super cute, speaks english well. Anyone know who she is and what's on the menu? Any good? You can pm as well.

Thanks.

Usually only happy. The young cute one I know is ivy / josie. But she usually wears jeans without additional access. So I'm wondering if she changing her ways or if that's a newer / different girl.

[Chimonger]

Back on the horse and went to Belmont. The girls there range from older 40's to a really sexy girl who looks like she's lower 20's. Also speaks pretty good english. Got the older lady. Nice tits. Solid massage and standard finish. I have a feeling more is on the table. I'd recommend.

Hey guys, went back and while 3 girls are out front I keep getting the older ones. There is this one young gal in a while dress. Super cute, speaks english well. Anyone know who she is and what's on the menu? Any good? You can pm as well.

Thanks.

[E6671]

MH, drew "Lisa. " Not a looker by any means, but nice bolt ons to play with on the flip.

Massage was decent, I've definitely had worse in a legit place.

Not quite a jackhammer in technique, but could have been gentler.

There was another MT there worth a second look. Maybe I'll go back next week and find out.

It is funny how so many of the women here that are offering extras have no technique for a simple HJ. I have been to many Chinese massage parlors overseas and they are definitely trained how to perform a satisfying HJ. They take their time and know how to let things build up slowly for a great finish. The noises and facial expressions are a little over the top for a HJ but I think that is for the foreigners only. I even had a couple therapists perform what I think may have been ED treatment. Applying pressure to my pelvis and the area below the scrotum. That was uncomfortable when she was doing it however I had the most satisfying ejaculation afterword's. Maybe I will ask someone to make a training video next time I go.

[Call Me Slappy]

MH, drew "Lisa. " Not a looker by any means, but nice bolt ons to play with on the flip.

Massage was decent, I've definitely had worse in a legit place.

Not quite a jackhammer in technique, but could have been gentler.

There was another MT there worth a second look. Maybe I'll go back next week and find out.

[HeadFirst80]

I usually tip if the massage was good OR at least there was an effort for it (amount may vary based on quality).

If other items were on the menu the tip would vary accordingly but at least there would be minimum for the service itself. I agree if the understanding was clear going in the place it would change the tipping scenario considerably!

There's one person at HM that sees me at her home. Can't reveal her name. I've heard of other freelancers from HM. My regular appointment is a woman I've known 6 years. She's married. But we are conventional friends (no benefits). Also, all 3 of my FWB Chinese girlfriends (and others I've met over the years) were legit masseuses at legit places.

I guess I'm trying to say it is possible to develop a genuine relationship with any person, (legit or otherwise) that will lead to a physical / romantic relationship.

I guess that's one of the reasons I'm sensitive to the "no tip" scenarios. Every day I hear stories from all three woman about massages with no tips. We live in such a fucked-up society that we have to use stupid hints about extras. Both the masseuse and the customer would be better off if both knew what was on the menu (and off the menu) before we wasted our money (or offended the woman). I know every guy on the forum would tip a woman for a good massage if he knew going in, that's all it would be.

Bob

[DMichaels69]

Well the only thing this is missing is a LEO sighting.

This happened to me recently. I went to an old ATF at her one woman shop. Exchanged hugs and she closed and locked the door behind me or so I thought. The door didn't click into the latch as I would soon discover. She escorts me into the back into the massage room I undress completely, lie down and she begins her massage, door to massage room open cause why not, we are behind an outer glass door, the door to her massage parlor, the one I thought was locked and yet another door to the rear that was left open.

I don't know maybe 30 minutes goes by and while still meeting a modified definition of the term 'face down ass up' I hear a man's voice go 'oh' and she rushes out of the room saying, can I help you'. She is leading him back towards the front, I sit up and hear him say ' I just wanted some information' . She leads him all the way back to the front, answers his questions quickly and gets back to me. She said oh my god I thought I locked the door but it didn't latch close. The part that was creepy and weird was when he opened the not latched door and entered the office foyer, never said anything like 'hello, anyone here' and wait for a response, nope he came right in, we didn't hear him and got surprised (we did have the universal korean massage parlor mix tape playing) All I can say is that maybe him discovering me there, thru him off his intentions or he was just a creepy dude.

Needless to say it was a bit of bone killer but I finished what I came for. As I was getting dressed, she said earlier a monger who claimed she knew him, asked her to come to his home for $$$ but she declined cause she said she didn't think she knew him and didn't want anything to happen to her as she made the universal sign for throat slashing. She works alone cause she said girls get jealous when they work together in a massage parlor and bicker and gossip. I told her 'korean ladies bicker and gossip, get out' her face turned serious for a moment until she realized wired one had made a funny.

A monger also called and said he would be there at 6:30 pm so I told her I would call at 8 pm to make sure everything was okay. I did call and she said she was okay and for being nice, no charge for my full set massage next weekend (a massage parlor may advertise as a half-set (HE) or a full-set (full service) massage parlor when they advertise for ladies in the korean language newspapers).

So always be aware and as Bob521 says (for those of you who didn't already know) treat the ladies with some common decency and you may be rewarded.

Wired.

[Wirelessone]

This happened to me recently. I went to an old ATF at her one woman shop. Exchanged hugs and she closed and locked the door behind me or so I thought. The door didn't click into the latch as I would soon discover. She escorts me into the back into the massage room I undress completely, lie down and she begins her massage, door to massage room open cause why not, we are behind an outer glass door, the door to her massage parlor, the one I thought was locked and yet another door to the rear that was left open.

I don't know maybe 30 minutes goes by and while still meeting a modified definition of the term 'face down ass up' I hear a man's voice go 'oh' and she rushes out of the room saying, can I help you'. She is leading him back towards the front, I sit up and hear him say ' I just wanted some information' . She leads him all the way back to the front, answers his questions quickly and gets back to me. She said oh my god I thought I locked the door but it didn't latch close. The part that was creepy and weird was when he opened the not latched door and entered the office foyer, never said anything like 'hello, anyone here' and wait for a response, nope he came right in, we didn't hear him and got surprised (we did have the universal korean massage parlor mix tape playing) All I can say is that maybe him discovering me there, thru him off his intentions or he was just a creepy dude.

Needless to say it was a bit of bone killer but I finished what I came for. As I was getting dressed, she said earlier a monger who claimed she knew him, asked her to come to his home for $$$ but she declined cause she said she didn't think she knew him and didn't want anything to happen to her as she made the universal sign for throat slashing. She works alone cause she said girls get jealous when they work together in a massage parlor and bicker and gossip. I told her 'korean ladies bicker and gossip, get out' her face turned serious for a moment until she realized wired one had made a funny.

A monger also called and said he would be there at 6:30 pm so I told her I would call at 8 pm to make sure everything was okay. I did call and she said she was okay and for being nice, no charge for my full set massage next weekend (a massage parlor may advertise as a half-set (HE) or a full-set (full service) massage parlor when they advertise for ladies in the korean language newspapers).

So always be aware and as Bob521 says (for those of you who didn't already know) treat the ladies with some common decency and you may be rewarded.

Wired.

[Sam Singer]

Grope on, That is all.

Ha. I was not sure if any of you will catch my drift. If GroupOn does not do a Group On (Gang bang) who will?

[E6671]

There's one person at HM that sees me at her home. Can't reveal her name. I've heard of other freelancers from HM. My regular appointment is a woman I've known 6 years. She's married. But we are conventional friends (no benefits). Also, all 3 of my FWB Chinese girlfriends (and others I've met over the years) were legit masseuses at legit places.

I guess I'm trying to say it is possible to develop a genuine relationship with any person, (legit or otherwise) that will lead to a physical / romantic relationship.

I guess that's one of the reasons I'm sensitive to the "no tip" scenarios. Every day I hear stories from all three woman about massages with no tips. We live in such a fucked-up society that we have to use stupid hints about extras. Both the masseuse and the customer would be better off if both knew what was on the menu (and off the menu) before we wasted our money (or offended the woman). I know every guy on the forum would tip a woman for a good massage if he knew going in, that's all it would be.

Bob

I always tip something based on the quality of the massage even if there are no extras involved. If I go in hoping for extras and do not get anything it is not the therapists fault for my expectations. Therapist who try to negotiate an outrageous tip upfront are somewhat of an exception. In one or two cases we could not agree an cost of extras and I was significantly shorted on time and given a less than mediocre finger poking. I did not tip and explained why. Paid for hour got 35 minutes and no attempt at a real massage.

[BenBeck]

I always make sure a Massage Therapist offers Extra Play at the first visit. I'm not one that makes numerous visits hoping to get a HJ.

To each his own. I like to get a good legit massage often and without any expectation or attempt for extras. The best legit massages have usually come from licensed pros, and I stick with a few go-tos. It also has happened that, in a couple of cases, after getting to know them and developing a genuine mutual fondness, things turned naturally in another direction.

So, it's not the only possible scenario to be desperately hanging on, wasting their money and time in the unlikely hope that it might come through. It's sometimes just a nice surprise bonus, as I said.

I'm guessing anyone looking for something extra pretty much knows how and where. Some guys also seem to like the sport of the chase. Not me.

Respect,

BB.

[Colesmithe]

I had two very different experiences here on my two trips. The first time the girl was DFK right out of the gates, and pretty much said I could do whatever I wanted to her. She wasn't the girl in the pics and much heavier so I opted to have her give me a CBJ - $. 60 all in as quoted on the website.

Second time there sounded much for like your experience. Mediocre.

Hey guys,

Long time reader, and figured it's time for me to start contributing.

I decided to bite the bullet and try the Latin place that advertises from time to time on BP. A maps site can also help find them, located in the NW part of the city north of what I'd think of as Logan Square. The place is behind an what looks like a cheap garage, with an unmarked door on the side. My provider let me in, revealing a room with a crappy couch and old TV which was on. Although they advertised a 'table shower,' the setup was really barebones and DIY. I'd asked for an hour but the provider "recommended" a half hour.

The provider, a 5 ft chubby curvy (as opposed to sexy curved) girl maybe in her early 20's led me to a partitioned area made of concrete cinderblocks that did not lead to the ceiling. It looked like there was another 'room' next door, which, if they ever had two providers working, could have been highly awkward.

I got the lightest, most cursory massage I'd had in a while, followed by a short menu with firm prices on the flip; asking for $. 6 for a HJ which seemed on the high side. The girl seemed like she didn't really enjoy or care about what she was doing, and didn't seem to want to hide it.

Other people might have better luck, especially with other providers, but I know I won't be returning.

[Bob521]

There's one person at HM that sees me at her home. Can't reveal her name. I've heard of other freelancers from HM. My regular appointment is a woman I've known 6 years. She's married. But we are conventional friends (no benefits). Also, all 3 of my FWB Chinese girlfriends (and others I've met over the years) were legit masseuses at legit places.

I guess I'm trying to say it is possible to develop a genuine relationship with any person, (legit or otherwise) that will lead to a physical / romantic relationship.

I guess that's one of the reasons I'm sensitive to the "no tip" scenarios. Every day I hear stories from all three woman about massages with no tips. We live in such a fucked-up society that we have to use stupid hints about extras. Both the masseuse and the customer would be better off if both knew what was on the menu (and off the menu) before we wasted our money (or offended the woman). I know every guy on the forum would tip a woman for a good massage if he knew going in, that's all it would be.

Bob

It seems like there's no such thing as 100% legit, really. There's almost always one girl who is willing to go off the plan, or a few that will go a 5% outside of the rules. Keeps it interesting when you go for a legit and get a unexpected bonus w / o trying.

Which 5% is it, Bob? Do 5% of the girls give extras or the girls give 5% extra (self serve, light touching, eg).

I have a seemingly totally-legit place with at least 2 girls eventually doing side work after seeing them semi-regularly for legit for a few years, and almost entirely at their suggestion.

PM ok.

BB.