The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

**Donatello** · 06-21-16 17:36

Originally Posted by PghGuy2005 [View Original Post]

So you guys are having a ball in the bowl! Are you guys single / unattached? To be able to take SBs out to dinner and other places. Hard to believe that being single and having the wisdom that comes with age makes it so easy to score with the babes!

Keep your stories coming we can at least live the good life vicariously!

I can't speak for others but I, myself, am single. My reasons for diving into the sugar pool from time to time are varied and complex. Much as Thresh has pointed out, each SD is different, as are each POT. Researching the boards are helpful, but there's no substitute for actual experience. Just need to be aware of what works, and what doesn't, and learn from it so you can "Groundhog Day" your way to better successs.

Plus, the SB potential in this area is high, while the number of quality SDs seem low. (I specify "quality" because the fact is that the males on SA outnumber the girls in our area almost 10 to one. And most SB gals might get interest from 10-15 or more before actually meeting.) So above all, be a gentleman.

**Thresh** · 06-21-16 16:45

PghGuy,

Yes, several.

Originally Posted by PghGuy2005 [View Original Post]

Have you had threesomes with the wife and SB?

**John HandCock** · 06-21-16 15:59

Not sure how a p2 p / arrangement elevates one play. Maybe in the negotiation part of it.

If your paying then its their job to make you feel like your the center of their world. Most are looking for nsa the same as we are, so you might be the center during your agreed time slot.

Usually you have to have game before you enter the bowl. If you couldn't score civy dating that's why most turn to p2 p. Having game before you enter the bowl is great help. Not sure how it helps after being in the bowl.

Unless the p2 p girls are giving a new found confidence, but remember that's part of what your paying for.

**PghGuy2005** · 06-21-16 15:28

Originally Posted by Thresh [View Original Post]

...One thing about the "Sugar Bowl," it really hones one's game and takes it to an entirely different level. I find myself getting interest from hotter chicks just about anywhere...

Inquiring minds want to know what new techniques you learned that helped you score with women in the civilian world. Could you walk us through an actual conquest? Living vicariously through you Thresh!

**PghGuy2005** · 06-21-16 15:20

Originally Posted by Thresh [View Original Post]

PghGuy,
...Before you ask "Yes!" I actually talked my wife into trying this out as well and she is hooked.
Cheers!; Thresh.

Have you had threesomes with the wife and SB?

**Thresh** · 06-21-16 00:08

Originally Posted by PghGuy2005 [View Original Post]

So you guys are having a ball in the bowl! Are you guys single / unattached? To be able to take SBs out to dinner and other places. Hard to believe that being single and having the wisdom that comes with age makes it so easy to score with the babes!

Keep your stories coming we can at least live the good life vicariously!

PghGuy,

The "Sugar Bowl" (in my view) is the only 'game' in town. I am married, and in a very unique situation. I have my own profile (separate), and my wife and I also have one combined. Before you ask "Yes!" I actually talked my wife into trying this out as well and she is hooked.

Cheers!; Thresh.

**PghGuy2005** · 06-20-16 22:16

Originally Posted by Pbone888 [View Original Post]

That's basically the secret for the hot more normal girls. Act like a gentlemen. Be friendly and honest, and nice. Don't be a creeper.
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So you guys are having a ball in the bowl! Are you guys single / unattached? To be able to take SBs out to dinner and other places. Hard to believe that being single and having the wisdom that comes with age makes it so easy to score with the babes!

Keep your stories coming we can at least live the good life vicariously!

**Pbone888** · 06-12-16 16:03

That's basically the secret for the hot more normal girls. Act like a gentlemen. Be friendly and honest, and nice. Don't be a creeper.

I usually don't even start with a sex session. Maybe just a HJ or I'll jack off while they watch (a lot of women are into this) to take the edge off the situation.

In 18 months I've had threesomes, foursomes, trips, and really good fucking with maybe 15 women? All for far less than I'd spend on similar quality escorts. I mean, I ain't kidding, one girl on there, smart NCSU grad, had literally THE best tits I've ever seen, natural and huge and standing straight up. Last week after hanging out for a few weeks and just getting blown, I had serious fuck bang one hour sweaty sex with the HOTTEST (I like them with small asses) black chick I've ever met.

It just goes on and on.

**Donatello** · 06-12-16 01:20

I've known for a while the "little secret" to success in the Sugar Bowl. Treat a girl well, and she's yours. It's really just that simple. And the only reason I don't you guys sharing it is because most of the guys who get the advice STILL won't "get it". So still PLENTY of sweet babies to go around. LOL.

Originally Posted by Thresh [View Original Post]

This is actually part of my MO. During my 19 month tenure, I have architect-ed a plan where this is the goal. It has worked VERY well thus far. I tend to be that 'perfect' older guy. Although dominant (which most like), I make them smile, take them to nice dinners knowing all along they will get hooked. I make it very clear I have other SBs which tends to intrigue them even more. Having conversations where they can be themselves, let go, vent, and become emotional creates a lasting effect.

One thing about the "Sugar Bowl," it really hones one's game and takes it to an entirely different level. I find myself getting interest from hotter chicks just about anywhere. Compared to mongering, there are no risk and the 'sessions' are far more better. As you stated, I find it astonishing how many SDs on the site are total dick-heads, but that's great for "businessmen" like us. {smile}.

Keep up the good work!

Cheers! Thresh.

**Thresh** · 06-10-16 17:07

This is actually part of my MO. During my 19 month tenure, I have architect-ed a plan where this is the goal. It has worked VERY well thus far. I tend to be that 'perfect' older guy. Although dominant (which most like), I make them smile, take them to nice dinners knowing all along they will get hooked. I make it very clear I have other SBs which tends to intrigue them even more. Having conversations where they can be themselves, let go, vent, and become emotional creates a lasting effect.

One thing about the "Sugar Bowl," it really hones one's game and takes it to an entirely different level. I find myself getting interest from hotter chicks just about anywhere. Compared to mongering, there are no risk and the 'sessions' are far more better. As you stated, I find it astonishing how many SDs on the site are total dick-heads, but that's great for "businessmen" like us. {smile}.

Keep up the good work!

Cheers! Thresh.

Originally Posted by YayaGogo [View Original Post]

Totally agree and forgot to mention that there are girls on there that just want a normal guy to treat them nicely and will meet with you regularly without any sugar or the occasional gift if they feel a meaningful connection with you. I have found several such girls that are just tired of being with rude guys and aren't just about the money. Some can't morally justify the concept of 'pay for play', so they just drop the pay part and simply ask for a nice time and a good hard f*ck every so often as your schedule allows. A big thanks to all the crude guys out there that make my approach so successful! LOL.

**YayaGogo** · 06-10-16 11:07

Originally Posted by JustFunCoastal [View Original Post]

Every time I have re-upped for a month, it is a gold mine! Definitely a bit more expensive but the quality is 10 fold. And eventually, with time, you can turn one into a $0 cost friend!

Totally agree and forgot to mention that there are girls on there that just want a normal guy to treat them nicely and will meet with you regularly without any sugar or the occasional gift if they feel a meaningful connection with you. I have found several such girls that are just tired of being with rude guys and aren't just about the money. Some can't morally justify the concept of 'pay for play', so they just drop the pay part and simply ask for a nice time and a good hard f*ck every so often as your schedule allows. A big thanks to all the crude guys out there that make my approach so successful! LOL.

**JustFunCoastal** · 06-10-16 08:00

Originally Posted by YayaGogo [View Original Post]

Sorry it didn't work out for you. I enjoy the chase aspect of it and the prospect of f*cking young, hot girls with goals in life for less $ than pros. However, I never pay for platonic meets and do make it clear that there's no pay without play in case one ever tries the 'I need to get comfortable with you first' routine. Good luck!

Every time I have re-upped for a month, it is a gold mine! Definitely a bit more expensive but the quality is 10 fold. And eventually, with time, you can turn one into a $0 cost friend!

**YayaGogo** · 06-09-16 16:59

Originally Posted by MrSmithwick [View Original Post]

Tried the SD sites and even though you might can find something good here and there, it's still a pain in the ass. The entitlement mentality is grotesque. It's common with these millenials. I went on a few dates and the SB's wanted their money right away and then they would contact me when they wanted more money. To be honest, F* that sh*

Sorry it didn't work out for you. I enjoy the chase aspect of it and the prospect of f*cking young, hot girls with goals in life for less $ than pros. However, I never pay for platonic meets and do make it clear that there's no pay without play in case one ever tries the 'I need to get comfortable with you first' routine. Good luck!

**MrSmithwick** · 05-30-16 21:44

Tried the SD sites and even though you might can find something good here and there, it's still a pain in the ass. The entitlement mentality is grotesque. It's common with these millenials. I went on a few dates and the SB's wanted their money right away and then they would contact me when they wanted more money. To be honest, F* that sh* I went back to my low key, UTR providers and it's not BS about it. I get to spend good quality time with them and there's no question of what the basis is. I Even get lots of OTC time, especially during the summer when I have the pool open at the house. If you have good luck with SA or similar sites, then hats off to you, I simply don't have the time to be screwing around and waiting on responses from girls who are trying to say they aren't hookers by being on SD sites, when in fact, they are hookers. Let's get real. No money, no date, No money, no sex. Just call the kettle black already.

Originally Posted by YayaGogo [View Original Post]

I've avoided most of the ones on the OP's list for various reasons (majority I haven't even bothered to contact), but can add to the conversation on the following:

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...5-1255e783910b

This one sounds like a scam based on my emails with her. Hasn't gone further.

I met with her when she was starting out last year. Wanted $$ at that time and wouldn't take my offer for $$. 5 weekly for long term arrangement. She is nice, real, and cute, but does not do PDA if you go out in public. I dropped it so idk whether reality has set in for her. Just a young girl / student that heard about the lifestyle and wanted to get the most out of it.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...8-6292c3811fa6

This one has no car (aka red flag), wants you to go to her place off New Bern (another red flag). The pics are her, she has a nice body, but I suspect she is a pro.

Concur she may be a pro, however she is actually smart (can talk about programming) and pleasant (but a smoker) so it may be the case she is a student starting on a bad path. She texted me one morning and had to meet RIGHT NOW (Chapel Hill) as her rent was due. Meeting at a coffee place I noted she had a nice body but she kept scratching her arms and legs. It may have been allergies or something else but it bothered me. She asked for a donation to meet (of course no) asked for me to get a hotel (no) then accepted going to her place. Asked for $$$ but accepted $$ Asked to see the money (weird, but she may have gotten burned in the past). I thought about it on the way and declined when we arrived and I just dropped her off. Did not want to follow up as she seemed off and I suspect may be into drug use.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...0-38002e0558f3

Legit, real pretty, big HUGE breasts. Just wants like 1800 a month, all upfront. Not sure if she is the runner type, but I don't care for that mentality.

Concur she is real. She is a student trying out the lifestyle. Contacted and met with her when she opened the account. She is nice and smart, a bit thick but if you like curvy girls she is perfect for you. She did not ask for that amount from me or having it upfront (she may have since been burnt). I decided against her as my long term SB as I didn't feel the right connection. She would make any serious SD very happy as she is relaxed and pleasant to be around, and very sexual in private when she is into the moment.

This is a fantastic area for the SBSD lifestyle with a lot of real (non-pro) girls trying it out. If you approach them as if they are pros you likely will go nowhere with most of them. I hope others will post their own experiences so we can all learn who is worth pursuing and who is not.

**Pbone888** · 05-30-16 19:21

Yes. I think I ended up giving her 1 for a lame handjob.

She's clearly a meth / heroin head. Will tell you as much. She's reasonably hot with saggy tits. There is far, far, fra better on sA. I'd be worried she would be setting you up for a sting as she will freely tell you she's been in jail, a lot.

Avoid. Seriously.