Escort Reports

**CoolPatrick** · 05-16-16 17:18

Originally Posted by RobotNic [View Original Post]

Been lurking here but thought it would be time to contribute.

I had a dream about this one:

https://www.preferred411.com/pwb-ter.cfm?cid=216717

In my dream she gave a phenomenal BBBJ and covered FS. Total GFE with lots of DFK.

My only issue is that she is a little pricey for me $$$ for hour (Greek available for extra. 5 and a heads up).

This site looks like the place to be for cheapo's like me.

Katie started at BP and posted just a couple times. Once she got a couple TER reviews, she no longer post on BP and have P411 instead, and let TER reviews do the trick. Her price went up a bit and become harder to book now. The girl knows how to do biz and very entrepreneurial. Girls like that you don't have to bother to build rapport to get more. As a fellow hobbyist, I don't consider you cheap. But entrepreneurial girls like her type do. They rather DFK BBBJ you the first time and see 3-5 guys on a working day earing 1500 than hassle with dozen people over 30/60 min session at $150/200.

For me, she is at the top sweet spot of what she can charge the most with most clients willing to book. If you can afford her, you will have good times. But if she marks up further, then well, it's your money.

**RobotNic** · 05-16-16 10:51

Originally Posted by DynoJr [View Original Post]

Thanks for the report. She's been getting very good reviews elsewhere. I'm thinking about checking her out but at the $300 level the standards are pretty high.

She does live up to those standards. You can check out my review on the oThER board to see more.

**DynoJr** · 05-14-16 10:40

Originally Posted by RobotNic [View Original Post]

Been lurking here but thought it would be time to contribute.

I had a dream about this one:

https://www.preferred411.com/pwb-ter.cfm?cid=216717

In my dream she gave a phenomenal BBBJ and covered FS. Total GFE with lots of DFK.

My only issue is that she is a little pricey for me $$$ for hour (Greek available for extra. 5 and a heads up).

This site looks like the place to be for cheapo's like me.

Thanks for the report. She's been getting very good reviews elsewhere. I'm thinking about checking her out but at the $300 level the standards are pretty high.

**RobotNic** · 05-13-16 09:16

Been lurking here but thought it would be time to contribute.

I had a dream about this one:

https://www.preferred411.com/pwb-ter.cfm?cid=216717

In my dream she gave a phenomenal BBBJ and covered FS. Total GFE with lots of DFK.

My only issue is that she is a little pricey for me $$$ for hour (Greek available for extra. 5 and a heads up).

This site looks like the place to be for cheapo's like me.

**TallViking** · 05-12-16 15:27

Saw her yesterday she is a very hot girl from the Netherlands, an hour dream for $$$ If I was downtown I would be there again, her last day here and I fully recommend her.

https://matchlessbeauties.com/escorts/bonnie/

TV out.

**CoolPatrick** · 05-10-16 17:01

Originally Posted by RocketDork [View Original Post]

I am with Ron on this point. I have never spent over 150 on a women. But I am not going to tell anyone what to do with their money. I also believe I have the money (my money) and I have control of the situation. I have walked away from providers who have changed the price of the donation or copped an attitude. Rocket Dork.

But its not about those. Rocket you certainly never tell anyone what to do with your money, and you share great providers (provided consent from them) when you can from time to time. Then readers can learn from your intel to help get what they want safely and happily. Like I said, thanks to you and others, I had great time with Karen and had good experience with a handful of girls from BP.

I'm mostly in agreement with what Ron said when he responded to my post. As stated clearly, I do not stretch my budget for max. Quantity of fucks like many seniors, and I never judge or comment anything like "the service from $200 BP girls is definitely worse than $500 independent escort or $1000 porn star. " The bottom line is that, the sexual organ is just the same. But there are also many additional factors of the encounter that may drive the cost / price up and down, once you account for appearance, age, openness of service menu, incall locations etc. It is a fact that people are willing to pay more to for more services, for fucking younger girls or the girls with the body type they are into. So it is not fair to the providers nor hobbyist to compare apples with oranges.

Here is an example of how comparing apples with oranges may not be a good thing.

DICKHEAD read pat's old posts and found that he is all over the place and has reviewed craiglist girl (like Karen), some BP girls (like Hailey rose), and some escorts.

DICKHEAD read ron's posts and found that Ron can get the PSE pat likes from $200 level girls.

DICKHEAD read ron's reviews on Karen, bikeroom Stacey, Hailey Rose. Etc.

DICKHEAD read the correspondence between us and think he can follow Ron's footstep and don't need to be like pat to pay more for service quality.

DICKHEAD also noticed Karen received raving reviews from everyone.

DICKHEAD then make an appointment with Karen and then demand her to do PSE and let him take photos and then just drop what Karen normally asked.

See the issues here? Even if Karen would do PSE, she should charge more. And her service menu and pricing should be at her discretion. My consideration about service items are very demanding and I don't really think many BP girls are willing to comply at the professional level like some of the high end escorts may do at the first meeting. If we keeps comparing apples and oranges, then it will only take one dickhead making the wrong move and it will push Karen away from what she is doing now.

There is no argument about people finding gems at the $200 or cheaper level. But it is unlikely that people can get to what Ron's can do from the go. Even Ron has to invest time and $ to establish trust and rapport, based on what he said about his experience. On the other hand, my experience is about paying more to the escorts that provide really open and full menu at the very first encounter. This is why I keep posting to ask Ron not to compare apples with oranges in the way he is saying.

The BP salad tossing girl that I reviewed a year ago told me that she was forced to provide FS despite the fact that she made clear that it's not on the menu. The guy told her that he wanted to fuck her because of reading my review here, even though I clearly stated that she doesn't offer FS. I don't know if what she told me was true. The conversation happened after my second visit when chatting about other places to advertise, so I'm inclined to think it is true. In other words, I think it's possible that someone would take Ron's message in a wrong way.

**Licker 4369** · 05-10-16 11:01

Kat or Katalina of Memphis is visiting Chicago until Friday the 13th noon. She is well reviewed in Memphis, Nashville, Stl Louis and here as well. Total GFE one of those providers who truly enjoys her job and meeting new people. No pimps drugs or drama. Give her a shout its her second time in the city. She is advertised on EROS, ECCIE, RTP, you can find her number there. Have a great day!

**Licker 4369** · 05-10-16 01:54

Kat or Katalina of Memphis is in Chicago till Friday the 13th she leaves at noon. Well reviewed in Memphis, Stl Louis, Nashville as well as Chicago this is her second trip to the windy city, my home FYI LOL. Total GFE very down to earth truly loves meeting new people just loves her job. No pimps drug's or nonsense. Have a great day!

**Ron M** · 05-09-16 21:35

Originally Posted by Eddinger [View Original Post]

I think you can find things all over the place in price. I have a place I go to for massage that I get total GFE FS / BBBJ / CIM / DFK / everything service, plus a great massage and table shower, and the girl is quite pretty. This all for 160. I can get pretty reliable semi GFE srvice from asians at ohare and skokie. BBBJ, DFK, etc. But the girls are kinda hit or miss. And latle I can get total stunners from russia with perfect 10 GFE service multiple shots, etc.

The low end places took a while to find good ones and the massage place is the only one I've ever found in 20 years of this. Whereas I've never had a bad session with a visiting Russian or latina at the 250-400 price from the touring companies. So if I don't want to fuss around and just want to fuck with no rpbolems someone so hot my head spins, I pay money. If I just want to make sure I cum ill take some chances, and if I'm in the area, ill go to my ATF standby.

It's great having an ATF provider (s) who will see you at your convenience.

**Eddinger** · 05-09-16 11:51

I think you can find things all over the place in price. I have a place I go to for massage that I get total GFE FS / BBBJ / CIM / DFK / everything service, plus a great massage and table shower, and the girl is quite pretty. This all for 160. I can get pretty reliable semi GFE srvice from asians at ohare and skokie. BBBJ, DFK, etc. But the girls are kinda hit or miss. And latle I can get total stunners from russia with perfect 10 GFE service multiple shots, etc.

The low end places took a while to find good ones and the massage place is the only one I've ever found in 20 years of this. Whereas I've never had a bad session with a visiting Russian or latina at the 250-400 price from the touring companies. So if I don't want to fuss around and just want to fuck with no rpbolems someone so hot my head spins, I pay money. If I just want to make sure I cum ill take some chances, and if I'm in the area, ill go to my ATF standby.

Originally Posted by RocketDork [View Original Post]

I am with Ron on this point. I have never spent over 150 on a women. But I am not going to tell anyone what to do with their money. I also believe I have the money (my money) and I have control of the situation. I have walked away from providers who have changed the price of the donation or copped an attitude. Rocket Dork.

**Rocket Dork** · 05-07-16 12:10

Originally Posted by RonM [View Original Post]

I wasn't being critical about your mongering spending. Who am I to criticize how anyone spends their mongering money? I just can't see myself spending more than 200 on a provider. Have I spent more than 200 on a provider? Yes I have. But I won't anymore and haven't in quite a while. I just want to get the most bang for my money. My Bullpen (as you call it, by the way I love that term) have their limitations. Some allow COF, CIMWS. While others don't. All will go FS at my request. The prices my Bullpen charges are inline with what my mongering budget allows. I'm pretty satisfied at the 200 max level.

I am with Ron on this point. I have never spent over 150 on a women. But I am not going to tell anyone what to do with their money. I also believe I have the money (my money) and I have control of the situation. I have walked away from providers who have changed the price of the donation or copped an attitude. Rocket Dork.

**Ron M** · 05-07-16 00:47

Originally Posted by CoolPatrick [View Original Post]

The goal of sharing my experience with higher-end providers is exactly to help folks to get what the paid for at this level.

I have to respectfully disagree two points you two gurus (and idols of mine) are making here regarding (1) discovery cost and (2) the service quality guarantee with higher end escorts.

My counter to (2) is easy: if we are truly honest about our preference in the hobby, there is never really any guarantee and always a certain YMMV risk with ANY provider. What we often do in reality is to have an accurate enough expectation with some flexibility going in. Say if her BBBJ is more mechanical or lukewarm than expected, we just focus on other things that she does better in order to enjoy ourselves and not get hung up on that. More importantly, if you don't like or want and never to buy apples, that's perfectly fine. But don't compare apples with oranges and insist on apples are not cost-beneficial if you never had or never will buy and eat apples. It is not convincing if you never tried the apples I reviewed or any apples for that matter, unless you provide evidence of your oranges. Riina does that by giving us lots of information about how and who to see and what to expect with 262 girls. They may not let me COF and then lick and eat my cum in front of my eyes (apples), but I'll be happy and satisfied going in knowing the checkboxes I can check off with their services (oranges). Certainly, I'm not surprised if you two gurus can get your ATF to let you COF and then eat your cum even if this is not something you like. That's beside the point. The key issue is whether others can be guaranteed with the services they want and the appearance they like with the $200 level oranges you guys are praising.

This brings us to the counter argument about (1) discovery cost that helps us get the service guarantee.

I only spent a couple hours searching online about Kitten and Lola to know that they will provide EVERYTHING I want with the appearance I love. Why? Because they, as high end escorts, approach their sex work just like any other entrepreneurs, they are building their brand by putting forth good information online across major review and verification sites. And they pay real dollar to build their own website. And it's easy to cross-check all the reviews about their services, even if you account for the exaggeration, to find a consistent impression about their services. In other words, for me being tied to a downtown office everyday and not being able to travel to burbs, the discovery cost is really really low. Besides the price tag, I got everything I expected with the money I paid for. And I don't have to repeat in order to "get me there. " Most higher-end escorts are managing their service very professionally. So, I don't understand how the discovery cost for service guarantee can be "high" or time consuming.

With my ATF, I did what you two do, there is not much online except the images she may share upon contact. Then I spent about 4 meetings to pamper her with little things to get on her good side and then obtained her actual phone number. After that, she would relax her limits on couple things and let me do those to her. Yes I did fuck her 4 times when I spent $800, which is more than I spent on Kitten and Lola. However, I consider the discovery cost of my ATF higher than the cost of my high-end experience, which is just the cost of the session. Yet my ATF is never going to do everything either Kitten or Lola is providing.

I don't count research time as cost only because I believe you two gurus also spent time on finding UTR talents or MTs you like. So I just see time as a constant fixed cost. Financially, to be honest, how much money and sessions you have spent before you got your ATF, such as Ron's mystery ATF who never advertise or Riina's Innessa and the likes? If you spent less than $500 to get your ATF and also get them do the things Kitten and Lola will do (even if you are not into it), that you may convince me that your discovery cost is cheaper.

In other words, I don't understand why you insist on higher end is not necessarily better when you can find abundant information about them and help you clearly understand and choose the higher-end providers you want and then expect and get the services you want. It is weird to think that you have to spend thousands to repeat a few times to find the one you really like. If the information on their website or reviews is not appealing, just move on to another one. You can easily do the initial screening without spending the money for "test-run. " My resource and budget is probably more limited than what you two gurus have every month. So one thing I consider as advantages of looking into higher-end escorts is that I can rely on the available information rather than doing test-runs to collect information. The "discovery" model is just different. So, if you use the same BP discovery model to find higher-end escorts you like, the cost is certainly unbearable. If you did not use the available information to understand their services, you are less likely to have the correct expectation and more likely to think the service is not worth the price. If you do your homework right with all the available information online, then it's mostly your issue if you pick the wrong girl and get an unsatisfactory service. If you do your homework, there is still that YMMV risk, which I think the risk is always there with every provider. So, there is no reason insisting the risk of higher-end girls is greater.

And Ron, if your points are just about people can find enjoyable services with $200 BP girls, then I would not have to write this long again. Because that would be 100% true since people indeed can find enjoyable service while picking oranges. However, every time you commented on my sharing, your point is ALWAYS about you can pay a lot less to get the service that I enjoyed with your bullpen or you can find UTR to do that in Chicago. Now you are saying oranges are just as good, if not better because of the low cost, as apples. And I may waste my money on apples. This is really getting old for me eve if I enjoyed all the conversations with you.

You don't have to repeat the fact that we all know about the existence of BP gems, even though you never show me your hand (and I don't expect you to) since you are so protective. My ATF does nude modeling for fun and people can actually find her images online. So she does have the look and only ask for $200 for her service. This is also why I can afford her repeatedly as ATF. Bottom line, she is very enjoyable, yet she is still an orange in my book, and I love that about her. BUT SHE IS NOT APPLE. My ATF is never going to let me COF and then eat my cum and lick her finger like what Kitten did.

In contrast, Kitten and Lola's services are just at a different level. Unless you tried apples and you are not satisfied, stop saying higher-end girls is not necessarily better. At least, not to my cases. In my case, I tried your ways and I indeed found enjoyable oranges, which is why I respect you. But unless you tried my ways of finding and then getting a bad apples, stop saying that just because apples are pricy. You can comment on the review or experience from others when they feel they wasted their money on apples, or when people spent $500 on a proven hot girl but with very limited menu like BP girls.

I wasn't being critical about your mongering spending. Who am I to criticize how anyone spends their mongering money? I just can't see myself spending more than 200 on a provider. Have I spent more than 200 on a provider? Yes I have. But I won't anymore and haven't in quite a while. I just want to get the most bang for my money. My Bullpen (as you call it, by the way I love that term) have their limitations. Some allow COF, CIMWS. While others don't. All will go FS at my request. The prices my Bullpen charges are inline with what my mongering budget allows. I'm pretty satisfied at the 200 max level.

**CoolPatrick** · 05-06-16 19:14

Originally Posted by Riina [View Original Post]

Spend as you like, it's your money. But when you get into that high end level, theirs no guarantee it will be worth it. Your "discovery cost" to find one you really like could be into the many thousands. Just too much for most of us here.

Originally Posted by RonM [View Original Post]

I agree with what most guys are saying. All I'm saying is that at the 200 dollar or less pricing there are a few Gems at this level. Sure the providers at this level aren't runway super models. But they're not zombie ugly either. (with two exceptions) But they're very nice in attitude and services. If you're not so picky on looks or going after the young hotties, you can enjoy playing around without spending mega bucks. Spending a lot of money doesn't always equate to a super session.

The goal of sharing my experience with higher-end providers is exactly to help folks to get what the paid for at this level.

I have to respectfully disagree two points you two gurus (and idols of mine) are making here regarding (1) discovery cost and (2) the service quality guarantee with higher end escorts.

My counter to (2) is easy: if we are truly honest about our preference in the hobby, there is never really any guarantee and always a certain YMMV risk with ANY provider. What we often do in reality is to have an accurate enough expectation with some flexibility going in. Say if her BBBJ is more mechanical or lukewarm than expected, we just focus on other things that she does better in order to enjoy ourselves and not get hung up on that. More importantly, if you don't like or want and never to buy apples, that's perfectly fine. But don't compare apples with oranges and insist on apples are not cost-beneficial if you never had or never will buy and eat apples. It is not convincing if you never tried the apples I reviewed or any apples for that matter, unless you provide evidence of your oranges. Riina does that by giving us lots of information about how and who to see and what to expect with 262 girls. They may not let me COF and then lick and eat my cum in front of my eyes (apples), but I'll be happy and satisfied going in knowing the checkboxes I can check off with their services (oranges). Certainly, I'm not surprised if you two gurus can get your ATF to let you COF and then eat your cum even if this is not something you like. That's beside the point. The key issue is whether others can be guaranteed with the services they want and the appearance they like with the $200 level oranges you guys are praising.

This brings us to the counter argument about (1) discovery cost that helps us get the service guarantee.

I only spent a couple hours searching online about Kitten and Lola to know that they will provide EVERYTHING I want with the appearance I love. Why? Because they, as high end escorts, approach their sex work just like any other entrepreneurs, they are building their brand by putting forth good information online across major review and verification sites. And they pay real dollar to build their own website. And it's easy to cross-check all the reviews about their services, even if you account for the exaggeration, to find a consistent impression about their services. In other words, for me being tied to a downtown office everyday and not being able to travel to burbs, the discovery cost is really really low. Besides the price tag, I got everything I expected with the money I paid for. And I don't have to repeat in order to "get me there. " Most higher-end escorts are managing their service very professionally. So, I don't understand how the discovery cost for service guarantee can be "high" or time consuming.

With my ATF, I did what you two do, there is not much online except the images she may share upon contact. Then I spent about 4 meetings to pamper her with little things to get on her good side and then obtained her actual phone number. After that, she would relax her limits on couple things and let me do those to her. Yes I did fuck her 4 times when I spent $800, which is more than I spent on Kitten and Lola. However, I consider the discovery cost of my ATF higher than the cost of my high-end experience, which is just the cost of the session. Yet my ATF is never going to do everything either Kitten or Lola is providing.

I don't count research time as cost only because I believe you two gurus also spent time on finding UTR talents or MTs you like. So I just see time as a constant fixed cost. Financially, to be honest, how much money and sessions you have spent before you got your ATF, such as Ron's mystery ATF who never advertise or Riina's Innessa and the likes? If you spent less than $500 to get your ATF and also get them do the things Kitten and Lola will do (even if you are not into it), that you may convince me that your discovery cost is cheaper.

In other words, I don't understand why you insist on higher end is not necessarily better when you can find abundant information about them and help you clearly understand and choose the higher-end providers you want and then expect and get the services you want. It is weird to think that you have to spend thousands to repeat a few times to find the one you really like. If the information on their website or reviews is not appealing, just move on to another one. You can easily do the initial screening without spending the money for "test-run. " My resource and budget is probably more limited than what you two gurus have every month. So one thing I consider as advantages of looking into higher-end escorts is that I can rely on the available information rather than doing test-runs to collect information. The "discovery" model is just different. So, if you use the same BP discovery model to find higher-end escorts you like, the cost is certainly unbearable. If you did not use the available information to understand their services, you are less likely to have the correct expectation and more likely to think the service is not worth the price. If you do your homework right with all the available information online, then it's mostly your issue if you pick the wrong girl and get an unsatisfactory service. If you do your homework, there is still that YMMV risk, which I think the risk is always there with every provider. So, there is no reason insisting the risk of higher-end girls is greater.

And Ron, if your points are just about people can find enjoyable services with $200 BP girls, then I would not have to write this long again. Because that would be 100% true since people indeed can find enjoyable service while picking oranges. However, every time you commented on my sharing, your point is ALWAYS about you can pay a lot less to get the service that I enjoyed with your bullpen or you can find UTR to do that in Chicago. Now you are saying oranges are just as good, if not better because of the low cost, as apples. And I may waste my money on apples. This is really getting old for me eve if I enjoyed all the conversations with you.

You don't have to repeat the fact that we all know about the existence of BP gems, even though you never show me your hand (and I don't expect you to) since you are so protective. My ATF does nude modeling for fun and people can actually find her images online. So she does have the look and only ask for $200 for her service. This is also why I can afford her repeatedly as ATF. Bottom line, she is very enjoyable, yet she is still an orange in my book, and I love that about her. BUT SHE IS NOT APPLE. My ATF is never going to let me COF and then eat my cum and lick her finger like what Kitten did.

In contrast, Kitten and Lola's services are just at a different level. Unless you tried apples and you are not satisfied, stop saying higher-end girls is not necessarily better. At least, not to my cases. In my case, I tried your ways and I indeed found enjoyable oranges, which is why I respect you. But unless you tried my ways of finding and then getting a bad apples, stop saying that just because apples are pricy. You can comment on the review or experience from others when they feel they wasted their money on apples, or when people spent $500 on a proven hot girl but with very limited menu like BP girls.