Escort Reports

[Ron M]

I think you can find things all over the place in price. I have a place I go to for massage that I get total GFE FS / BBBJ / CIM / DFK / everything service, plus a great massage and table shower, and the girl is quite pretty. This all for 160. I can get pretty reliable semi GFE srvice from asians at ohare and skokie. BBBJ, DFK, etc. But the girls are kinda hit or miss. And latle I can get total stunners from russia with perfect 10 GFE service multiple shots, etc.

The low end places took a while to find good ones and the massage place is the only one I've ever found in 20 years of this. Whereas I've never had a bad session with a visiting Russian or latina at the 250-400 price from the touring companies. So if I don't want to fuss around and just want to fuck with no rpbolems someone so hot my head spins, I pay money. If I just want to make sure I cum ill take some chances, and if I'm in the area, ill go to my ATF standby.

It's great having an ATF provider (s) who will see you at your convenience.

[Eddinger]

I think you can find things all over the place in price. I have a place I go to for massage that I get total GFE FS / BBBJ / CIM / DFK / everything service, plus a great massage and table shower, and the girl is quite pretty. This all for 160. I can get pretty reliable semi GFE srvice from asians at ohare and skokie. BBBJ, DFK, etc. But the girls are kinda hit or miss. And latle I can get total stunners from russia with perfect 10 GFE service multiple shots, etc.

The low end places took a while to find good ones and the massage place is the only one I've ever found in 20 years of this. Whereas I've never had a bad session with a visiting Russian or latina at the 250-400 price from the touring companies. So if I don't want to fuss around and just want to fuck with no rpbolems someone so hot my head spins, I pay money. If I just want to make sure I cum ill take some chances, and if I'm in the area, ill go to my ATF standby.

I am with Ron on this point. I have never spent over 150 on a women. But I am not going to tell anyone what to do with their money. I also believe I have the money (my money) and I have control of the situation. I have walked away from providers who have changed the price of the donation or copped an attitude. Rocket Dork.

[Rocket Dork]

I wasn't being critical about your mongering spending. Who am I to criticize how anyone spends their mongering money? I just can't see myself spending more than 200 on a provider. Have I spent more than 200 on a provider? Yes I have. But I won't anymore and haven't in quite a while. I just want to get the most bang for my money. My Bullpen (as you call it, by the way I love that term) have their limitations. Some allow COF, CIMWS. While others don't. All will go FS at my request. The prices my Bullpen charges are inline with what my mongering budget allows. I'm pretty satisfied at the 200 max level.

I am with Ron on this point. I have never spent over 150 on a women. But I am not going to tell anyone what to do with their money. I also believe I have the money (my money) and I have control of the situation. I have walked away from providers who have changed the price of the donation or copped an attitude. Rocket Dork.

[Ron M]

The goal of sharing my experience with higher-end providers is exactly to help folks to get what the paid for at this level.

I have to respectfully disagree two points you two gurus (and idols of mine) are making here regarding (1) discovery cost and (2) the service quality guarantee with higher end escorts.

My counter to (2) is easy: if we are truly honest about our preference in the hobby, there is never really any guarantee and always a certain YMMV risk with ANY provider. What we often do in reality is to have an accurate enough expectation with some flexibility going in. Say if her BBBJ is more mechanical or lukewarm than expected, we just focus on other things that she does better in order to enjoy ourselves and not get hung up on that. More importantly, if you don't like or want and never to buy apples, that's perfectly fine. But don't compare apples with oranges and insist on apples are not cost-beneficial if you never had or never will buy and eat apples. It is not convincing if you never tried the apples I reviewed or any apples for that matter, unless you provide evidence of your oranges. Riina does that by giving us lots of information about how and who to see and what to expect with 262 girls. They may not let me COF and then lick and eat my cum in front of my eyes (apples), but I'll be happy and satisfied going in knowing the checkboxes I can check off with their services (oranges). Certainly, I'm not surprised if you two gurus can get your ATF to let you COF and then eat your cum even if this is not something you like. That's beside the point. The key issue is whether others can be guaranteed with the services they want and the appearance they like with the $200 level oranges you guys are praising.

This brings us to the counter argument about (1) discovery cost that helps us get the service guarantee.

I only spent a couple hours searching online about Kitten and Lola to know that they will provide EVERYTHING I want with the appearance I love. Why? Because they, as high end escorts, approach their sex work just like any other entrepreneurs, they are building their brand by putting forth good information online across major review and verification sites. And they pay real dollar to build their own website. And it's easy to cross-check all the reviews about their services, even if you account for the exaggeration, to find a consistent impression about their services. In other words, for me being tied to a downtown office everyday and not being able to travel to burbs, the discovery cost is really really low. Besides the price tag, I got everything I expected with the money I paid for. And I don't have to repeat in order to "get me there. " Most higher-end escorts are managing their service very professionally. So, I don't understand how the discovery cost for service guarantee can be "high" or time consuming.

With my ATF, I did what you two do, there is not much online except the images she may share upon contact. Then I spent about 4 meetings to pamper her with little things to get on her good side and then obtained her actual phone number. After that, she would relax her limits on couple things and let me do those to her. Yes I did fuck her 4 times when I spent $800, which is more than I spent on Kitten and Lola. However, I consider the discovery cost of my ATF higher than the cost of my high-end experience, which is just the cost of the session. Yet my ATF is never going to do everything either Kitten or Lola is providing.

I don't count research time as cost only because I believe you two gurus also spent time on finding UTR talents or MTs you like. So I just see time as a constant fixed cost. Financially, to be honest, how much money and sessions you have spent before you got your ATF, such as Ron's mystery ATF who never advertise or Riina's Innessa and the likes? If you spent less than $500 to get your ATF and also get them do the things Kitten and Lola will do (even if you are not into it), that you may convince me that your discovery cost is cheaper.

In other words, I don't understand why you insist on higher end is not necessarily better when you can find abundant information about them and help you clearly understand and choose the higher-end providers you want and then expect and get the services you want. It is weird to think that you have to spend thousands to repeat a few times to find the one you really like. If the information on their website or reviews is not appealing, just move on to another one. You can easily do the initial screening without spending the money for "test-run. " My resource and budget is probably more limited than what you two gurus have every month. So one thing I consider as advantages of looking into higher-end escorts is that I can rely on the available information rather than doing test-runs to collect information. The "discovery" model is just different. So, if you use the same BP discovery model to find higher-end escorts you like, the cost is certainly unbearable. If you did not use the available information to understand their services, you are less likely to have the correct expectation and more likely to think the service is not worth the price. If you do your homework right with all the available information online, then it's mostly your issue if you pick the wrong girl and get an unsatisfactory service. If you do your homework, there is still that YMMV risk, which I think the risk is always there with every provider. So, there is no reason insisting the risk of higher-end girls is greater.

And Ron, if your points are just about people can find enjoyable services with $200 BP girls, then I would not have to write this long again. Because that would be 100% true since people indeed can find enjoyable service while picking oranges. However, every time you commented on my sharing, your point is ALWAYS about you can pay a lot less to get the service that I enjoyed with your bullpen or you can find UTR to do that in Chicago. Now you are saying oranges are just as good, if not better because of the low cost, as apples. And I may waste my money on apples. This is really getting old for me eve if I enjoyed all the conversations with you.

You don't have to repeat the fact that we all know about the existence of BP gems, even though you never show me your hand (and I don't expect you to) since you are so protective. My ATF does nude modeling for fun and people can actually find her images online. So she does have the look and only ask for $200 for her service. This is also why I can afford her repeatedly as ATF. Bottom line, she is very enjoyable, yet she is still an orange in my book, and I love that about her. BUT SHE IS NOT APPLE. My ATF is never going to let me COF and then eat my cum and lick her finger like what Kitten did.

In contrast, Kitten and Lola's services are just at a different level. Unless you tried apples and you are not satisfied, stop saying higher-end girls is not necessarily better. At least, not to my cases. In my case, I tried your ways and I indeed found enjoyable oranges, which is why I respect you. But unless you tried my ways of finding and then getting a bad apples, stop saying that just because apples are pricy. You can comment on the review or experience from others when they feel they wasted their money on apples, or when people spent $500 on a proven hot girl but with very limited menu like BP girls.

I wasn't being critical about your mongering spending. Who am I to criticize how anyone spends their mongering money? I just can't see myself spending more than 200 on a provider. Have I spent more than 200 on a provider? Yes I have. But I won't anymore and haven't in quite a while. I just want to get the most bang for my money. My Bullpen (as you call it, by the way I love that term) have their limitations. Some allow COF, CIMWS. While others don't. All will go FS at my request. The prices my Bullpen charges are inline with what my mongering budget allows. I'm pretty satisfied at the 200 max level.

[CoolPatrick]

Spend as you like, it's your money. But when you get into that high end level, theirs no guarantee it will be worth it. Your "discovery cost" to find one you really like could be into the many thousands. Just too much for most of us here.

I agree with what most guys are saying. All I'm saying is that at the 200 dollar or less pricing there are a few Gems at this level. Sure the providers at this level aren't runway super models. But they're not zombie ugly either. (with two exceptions) But they're very nice in attitude and services. If you're not so picky on looks or going after the young hotties, you can enjoy playing around without spending mega bucks. Spending a lot of money doesn't always equate to a super session.

The goal of sharing my experience with higher-end providers is exactly to help folks to get what the paid for at this level.

I have to respectfully disagree two points you two gurus (and idols of mine) are making here regarding (1) discovery cost and (2) the service quality guarantee with higher end escorts.

My counter to (2) is easy: if we are truly honest about our preference in the hobby, there is never really any guarantee and always a certain YMMV risk with ANY provider. What we often do in reality is to have an accurate enough expectation with some flexibility going in. Say if her BBBJ is more mechanical or lukewarm than expected, we just focus on other things that she does better in order to enjoy ourselves and not get hung up on that. More importantly, if you don't like or want and never to buy apples, that's perfectly fine. But don't compare apples with oranges and insist on apples are not cost-beneficial if you never had or never will buy and eat apples. It is not convincing if you never tried the apples I reviewed or any apples for that matter, unless you provide evidence of your oranges. Riina does that by giving us lots of information about how and who to see and what to expect with 262 girls. They may not let me COF and then lick and eat my cum in front of my eyes (apples), but I'll be happy and satisfied going in knowing the checkboxes I can check off with their services (oranges). Certainly, I'm not surprised if you two gurus can get your ATF to let you COF and then eat your cum even if this is not something you like. That's beside the point. The key issue is whether others can be guaranteed with the services they want and the appearance they like with the $200 level oranges you guys are praising.

This brings us to the counter argument about (1) discovery cost that helps us get the service guarantee.

I only spent a couple hours searching online about Kitten and Lola to know that they will provide EVERYTHING I want with the appearance I love. Why? Because they, as high end escorts, approach their sex work just like any other entrepreneurs, they are building their brand by putting forth good information online across major review and verification sites. And they pay real dollar to build their own website. And it's easy to cross-check all the reviews about their services, even if you account for the exaggeration, to find a consistent impression about their services. In other words, for me being tied to a downtown office everyday and not being able to travel to burbs, the discovery cost is really really low. Besides the price tag, I got everything I expected with the money I paid for. And I don't have to repeat in order to "get me there. " Most higher-end escorts are managing their service very professionally. So, I don't understand how the discovery cost for service guarantee can be "high" or time consuming.

With my ATF, I did what you two do, there is not much online except the images she may share upon contact. Then I spent about 4 meetings to pamper her with little things to get on her good side and then obtained her actual phone number. After that, she would relax her limits on couple things and let me do those to her. Yes I did fuck her 4 times when I spent $800, which is more than I spent on Kitten and Lola. However, I consider the discovery cost of my ATF higher than the cost of my high-end experience, which is just the cost of the session. Yet my ATF is never going to do everything either Kitten or Lola is providing.

I don't count research time as cost only because I believe you two gurus also spent time on finding UTR talents or MTs you like. So I just see time as a constant fixed cost. Financially, to be honest, how much money and sessions you have spent before you got your ATF, such as Ron's mystery ATF who never advertise or Riina's Innessa and the likes? If you spent less than $500 to get your ATF and also get them do the things Kitten and Lola will do (even if you are not into it), that you may convince me that your discovery cost is cheaper.

In other words, I don't understand why you insist on higher end is not necessarily better when you can find abundant information about them and help you clearly understand and choose the higher-end providers you want and then expect and get the services you want. It is weird to think that you have to spend thousands to repeat a few times to find the one you really like. If the information on their website or reviews is not appealing, just move on to another one. You can easily do the initial screening without spending the money for "test-run. " My resource and budget is probably more limited than what you two gurus have every month. So one thing I consider as advantages of looking into higher-end escorts is that I can rely on the available information rather than doing test-runs to collect information. The "discovery" model is just different. So, if you use the same BP discovery model to find higher-end escorts you like, the cost is certainly unbearable. If you did not use the available information to understand their services, you are less likely to have the correct expectation and more likely to think the service is not worth the price. If you do your homework right with all the available information online, then it's mostly your issue if you pick the wrong girl and get an unsatisfactory service. If you do your homework, there is still that YMMV risk, which I think the risk is always there with every provider. So, there is no reason insisting the risk of higher-end girls is greater.

And Ron, if your points are just about people can find enjoyable services with $200 BP girls, then I would not have to write this long again. Because that would be 100% true since people indeed can find enjoyable service while picking oranges. However, every time you commented on my sharing, your point is ALWAYS about you can pay a lot less to get the service that I enjoyed with your bullpen or you can find UTR to do that in Chicago. Now you are saying oranges are just as good, if not better because of the low cost, as apples. And I may waste my money on apples. This is really getting old for me eve if I enjoyed all the conversations with you.

You don't have to repeat the fact that we all know about the existence of BP gems, even though you never show me your hand (and I don't expect you to) since you are so protective. My ATF does nude modeling for fun and people can actually find her images online. So she does have the look and only ask for $200 for her service. This is also why I can afford her repeatedly as ATF. Bottom line, she is very enjoyable, yet she is still an orange in my book, and I love that about her. BUT SHE IS NOT APPLE. My ATF is never going to let me COF and then eat my cum and lick her finger like what Kitten did.

In contrast, Kitten and Lola's services are just at a different level. Unless you tried apples and you are not satisfied, stop saying higher-end girls is not necessarily better. At least, not to my cases. In my case, I tried your ways and I indeed found enjoyable oranges, which is why I respect you. But unless you tried my ways of finding and then getting a bad apples, stop saying that just because apples are pricy. You can comment on the review or experience from others when they feel they wasted their money on apples, or when people spent $500 on a proven hot girl but with very limited menu like BP girls.

[WhiteRookDown]

I would have gone with Adrianna Luna, until she decided she enjoyed stuffing her mouth at Golden Corral as much as stuffing her mouth with cock.

[HeadFirst80]

I'm picky about looks, especially if I'm paying for it.

I think we're all saying that we all have our tastes and preferences which are different. And different is good.

[IdiotBoy]

I agree with what most guys are saying. All I'm saying is that at the 200 dollar or less pricing there are a few Gems at this level. Sure the providers at this level aren't runway super models. But they're not zombie ugly either. (with two exceptions) But they're very nice in attitude and services. If you're not so picky on looks or going after the young hotties, you can enjoy playing around without spending mega bucks. Spending a lot of money doesn't always equate to a super session.

I'm picky about looks, especially if I'm paying for it.

[Patchwork1]

Your are right, and my reference was to Jenna Haze etc. Kelly Klass being in the biz for 6 years and yet she is not as popular as Riley Reid or Jada Stevens who also being in the biz for more than 5 years. She doesn't have the stardom therefore she only charges 800 for GFE w / o promising CIM / COF.

Lola actually loves escorting more than shooting porn, as she has a great business mindset not to push the price too far up. In contrast, Eva doesn't have the stardom like Riley Reid and she may be as popular as Kelly at best. Therefore, her $1700 tag is just egomaniac. Well, but there are enough hotshots CEOs or politicians or whoever willingly paying the money to see her, then good for her.

I totally understand. My dream girl would be Lexi Belle. That chick does it for me. She actually just moved from LA to Chicago.

I can only hope. LOL.

[SteamTrain98]

Anyone have any 411 they can PM me on Courtney?

http://chicago.backpage.com/FemaleEs...-town/35793578

Saw her a couple years ago. When I saw her, she was a little chubby. Current pics suggest she's lost a lot of weight, but the face seems to be her.

Good session, only booked a half hr. Very safe (CBJ & CFS), though I've heard from others that BBBJ may be on the menu now, but I can't confirm that. Regardless, my session with her was pleasant and she seemed willing to try for MSOG in a full hr session if I wanted to try.

Been seriously thinking of repeating since she was fun even when she was a little heavier, and having that level of service from her with that new body would be a huge improvement.

[Ron M]

I agree with what most guys are saying. All I'm saying is that at the 200 dollar or less pricing there are a few Gems at this level. Sure the providers at this level aren't runway super models. But they're not zombie ugly either. (with two exceptions) But they're very nice in attitude and services. If you're not so picky on looks or going after the young hotties, you can enjoy playing around without spending mega bucks. Spending a lot of money doesn't always equate to a super session.

[Riina]

One of my favorites charges $700 an hour. She's worth it. Or was till she got knocked up (not into preggos). I honestly don't think I've had a good time with a cheap provider. They're either older, heavier, or druggie-er than their pictures or have way too many rules for me to enjoy myself. I don't work my ass off to have lame sex with ugly women.

Spend as you like, it's your money. But when you get into that high end level, theirs no guarantee it will be worth it. Your "discovery cost" to find one you really like could be into the many thousands. Just too much for most of us here.

[IdiotBoy]

NO. Are your girls as young as mid 30's, late 20's, or early 20's? Are they size 0 or 2?

I spent $160 at Logan Tantrica, you told me you can get 1 hr FS with the same money.

I spent $250 USD in Toronto to see an agency girl bringing back tons of images and videos of authentic PSE and we still keep in touch on Twitter. You told me you can find the same service with the same $ in town.

I spent $300 on a few either independent or agency euro girls, who hosts incall in downtown area, age range between late 20's and mid 30's, all have thin and toned body and provide GFE. You told me you can find the same kind of girl on Chicago BP.

I spent $500-600 for Kitten and Lola for authentic PSE. You told me you can find the same service while paying lot less here in Chicago; and paying more to see younger girls may not promise great service.

I spent $200 for up to 2 hours with my local ATF, tatted, late 20's, 5'4" 110 lbs. You told me great job.

Ron, I really get your standard and criteria. I hope I make crystal clear that I agree with you and I also am able to find what I want at the normal $200 level.

You are talking about oranges and how to pick good oranges, and I hope I show you that I know how to pick oranges (Thanks to your help over the years).

However, I am talking about apples here. I don't mind spending a bit more for younger prettier being more open-minded girls as long as the value of overall package worth the price tag. My criteria is the service has to be there.

My reason of sharing is to let others, like-minded or not, having a bit more information about apples, so that it may be helpful for learning to pick apples.

So, please, I have already asked you once before, stop saying you can get the same thing I paid the $ to get. You are not getting what I paid to get, unless your ATFs' appearance falls under the young, thin, and addicted-to-sex categories.

That being said, I believe your girls are awesome in their own ways. If your ATF would ever meet me, I have no doubt she will exceed my expectation (as the perfect orange).

But please stop educating me as if I was paying $750 for HJ at the Jack Shack. I know there are decent and affordable providers on BP.

You get what you pay for. I personally have zero problem spending more than I allegedly should to spend an hour or more with a hottie that will at least convincingly fake being really into it vs. $160 ish for some skank on BP using old pics or strategic belly fat hiding pics.

One of my favorites charges $700 an hour. She's worth it. Or was till she got knocked up (not into preggos). I honestly don't think I've had a good time with a cheap provider. They're either older, heavier, or druggie-er than their pictures or have way too many rules for me to enjoy myself. I don't work my ass off to have lame sex with ugly women.

[Truthfu11]

NO. Are your girls as young as mid 30's, late 20's, or early 20's? Are they size 0 or 2?

I spent $160 at Logan Tantrica, you told me you can get 1 hr FS with the same money.

I spent $250 USD in Toronto to see an agency girl bringing back tons of images and videos of authentic PSE and we still keep in touch on Twitter. You told me you can find the same service with the same $ in town.

I spent $300 on a few either independent or agency euro girls, who hosts incall in downtown area, age range between late 20's and mid 30's, all have thin and toned body and provide GFE. You told me you can find the same kind of girl on Chicago BP.

I spent $500-600 for Kitten and Lola for authentic PSE. You told me you can find the same service while paying lot less here in Chicago; and paying more to see younger girls may not promise great service.

I spent $200 for up to 2 hours with my local ATF, tatted, late 20's, 5'4" 110 lbs. You told me great job.

Ron, I really get your standard and criteria. I hope I make crystal clear that I agree with you and I also am able to find what I want at the normal $200 level.

You are talking about oranges and how to pick good oranges, and I hope I show you that I know how to pick oranges (Thanks to your help over the years).

However, I am talking about apples here. I don't mind spending a bit more for younger prettier being more open-minded girls as long as the value of overall package worth the price tag. My criteria is the service has to be there.

My reason of sharing is to let others, like-minded or not, having a bit more information about apples, so that it may be helpful for learning to pick apples.

So, please, I have already asked you once before, stop saying you can get the same thing I paid the $ to get. You are not getting what I paid to get, unless your ATFs' appearance falls under the young, thin, and addicted-to-sex categories.

That being said, I believe your girls are awesome in their own ways. If your ATF would ever meet me, I have no doubt she will exceed my expectation (as the perfect orange).

But please stop educating me as if I was paying $750 for HJ at the Jack Shack. I know there are decent and affordable providers on BP.

Patrick, I agree with you. There is a difference between a good provider with great skills at a low price and an overall experience with looks, talent and some emotional connection to highlight the experience at a slightly higher price.

I also believe to tip higher than the "standard" to a provider I want to have a longer term relationship with. It's about developing the relationship and about believing that if we both get along and meet each others needs, both physically and emotionally (in a monger's sense) then it's worth the extra spend in the long run. The number of conquests vs the quality of each conquest is your apples and oranges.

[CoolPatrick]

OK Pat. Point taken. I spend 200 or less to get what you get. My Bullpen charges me very reasonable prices and have very few restrictions. And I'm happy about that.

NO. Are your girls as young as mid 30's, late 20's, or early 20's? Are they size 0 or 2?

I spent $160 at Logan Tantrica, you told me you can get 1 hr FS with the same money.

I spent $250 USD in Toronto to see an agency girl bringing back tons of images and videos of authentic PSE and we still keep in touch on Twitter. You told me you can find the same service with the same $ in town.

I spent $300 on a few either independent or agency euro girls, who hosts incall in downtown area, age range between late 20's and mid 30's, all have thin and toned body and provide GFE. You told me you can find the same kind of girl on Chicago BP.

I spent $500-600 for Kitten and Lola for authentic PSE. You told me you can find the same service while paying lot less here in Chicago; and paying more to see younger girls may not promise great service.

I spent $200 for up to 2 hours with my local ATF, tatted, late 20's, 5'4" 110 lbs. You told me great job.

Ron, I really get your standard and criteria. I hope I make crystal clear that I agree with you and I also am able to find what I want at the normal $200 level.

You are talking about oranges and how to pick good oranges, and I hope I show you that I know how to pick oranges (Thanks to your help over the years).

However, I am talking about apples here. I don't mind spending a bit more for younger prettier being more open-minded girls as long as the value of overall package worth the price tag. My criteria is the service has to be there.

My reason of sharing is to let others, like-minded or not, having a bit more information about apples, so that it may be helpful for learning to pick apples.

So, please, I have already asked you once before, stop saying you can get the same thing I paid the $ to get. You are not getting what I paid to get, unless your ATFs' appearance falls under the young, thin, and addicted-to-sex categories.

That being said, I believe your girls are awesome in their own ways. If your ATF would ever meet me, I have no doubt she will exceed my expectation (as the perfect orange).

But please stop educating me as if I was paying $750 for HJ at the Jack Shack. I know there are decent and affordable providers on BP.