Massage Parlor Reports

[Mr Sixty]

60, you raise excellent factual realities that are usually buried on monger sites or ignored by many of us in the commercial tug of war that ensues in an industry where both service and cost vary encounter by encounter. The Golden Rule is my only religion and I share your outlook 100% even if good karma is mere wishful thinking! Personally the only thing I negotiate in 95% of my hookups is trust. I don't discuss prices or show cash until I'm delivering it after I have my pants back on. All I've promised to that point is that the provider need not concern herself whether I'll be fair if she treats me well. At that point if service is well above average to outstanding, I will tip above average, or as you correctly point out, pay the "provider's fee" at a little bit of an enhanced rate above "going rate" in consideration of the good service and also in recognition that these ladies are buried in challenges whereas I've been comparatively privileged. Really, you have to be some extent privileged to indulge this hobby and you have to be underprivileged to be on the provider side of the game. Maybe you can't place a dollar value on empathy but taking a modest shot at it is about the best most of us can do.

Camel, that is a valid perspective. It's funny, I negotiate trust in the other direction: by paying up front. The money is sitting there, on top of my neatly folded clothes, so it isn't an issue. In a recent experience, I decided not to do that, to see what happened, and I ended up having to set a price and pay before we started. A case study of one, but that is the first time that's happened to me in a long time. I don't believe in good karma, but I've seen enough cases of "bad karma" to have my doubts. (Actually, what it really is, is that people who make bad decisions can't help themselves, and that eventually exhibits itself as a situation for which they must be accountable, and then I call it bad karma. It's really just the law of averages, or diminishing returns.).

You do have to be somewhat privileged to enjoy this hobby, even at an average exchange rate of less than $200 per transaction. I just saw where 50% of Americans cannot handle a $400 emergency expense, using cash on hand. So all of us who indulge are either privileged or foolish.

It irks me to see guys who are frequent posters bragging about how they beat a girl down $20 on price, and then complain that her service was tepid. It's like if you went to a restaurant and told the waiter, "I'm only tipping you 5% tonight, no matter what kind of service you give. " There might be some restaurants where the waiter's pride would not allow them to serve you poorly, but that is the exception.

[The Camel]

I could write a treatise on what defines good service. Let's just define it as "service that you are satisfied with. " If you can haggle a girl down 20%, and are OK with getting the bare minimum, then that's good service. If you want a GFE, throbbing sexuality, DFK, and "special" treatment, then the more you haggle, the less you are likely to encounter good service.

The thing is, what we call a "tip" on this site is not a tip. It is the fee. The house gets one fee, the girl gets another. We all know the minimums: $40, $60-80, $100. If service is extra special, then really, you should tip above that. This isn't a restaurant, where even if the service is lousy, you still get a meal. For us, the service IS the meal!

We call it a "tip" mainly as a convention to avoid stings and arrests, and to convince ourselves we aren't paying for sex. It's not a tip. It's all the girl gets. She doesn't get a cut of the house fee. She is not getting minimum wage. If you don't tip, she gets nothing.

If you would screw a random guy for $60, then great, you can do that with any provider, and at least you won't be doing any worse than you would do for yourself. If, however, you think that idea is disgusting, you might get a small idea of how the providers feel, and you should consider not bargaining them down.

The golden rule baby. No one ever mentions that the punishment for ignoring the golden rule is called karma!

60, you raise excellent factual realities that are usually buried on monger sites or ignored by many of us in the commercial tug of war that ensues in an industry where both service and cost vary encounter by encounter. The Golden Rule is my only religion and I share your outlook 100% even if good karma is mere wishful thinking! Personally the only thing I negotiate in 95% of my hookups is trust. I don't discuss prices or show cash until I'm delivering it after I have my pants back on. All I've promised to that point is that the provider need not concern herself whether I'll be fair if she treats me well. At that point if service is well above average to outstanding, I will tip above average, or as you correctly point out, pay the "provider's fee" at a little bit of an enhanced rate above "going rate" in consideration of the good service and also in recognition that these ladies are buried in challenges whereas I've been comparatively privileged. Really, you have to be some extent privileged to indulge this hobby and you have to be underprivileged to be on the provider side of the game. Maybe you can't place a dollar value on empathy but taking a modest shot at it is about the best most of us can do.

[Mr Sixty]

I could write a treatise on what defines good service. Let's just define it as "service that you are satisfied with. " If you can haggle a girl down 20%, and are OK with getting the bare minimum, then that's good service. If you want a GFE, throbbing sexuality, DFK, and "special" treatment, then the more you haggle, the less you are likely to encounter good service.

The thing is, what we call a "tip" on this site is not a tip. It is the fee. The house gets one fee, the girl gets another. We all know the minimums: $40, $60-80, $100. If service is extra special, then really, you should tip above that. This isn't a restaurant, where even if the service is lousy, you still get a meal. For us, the service IS the meal!

We call it a "tip" mainly as a convention to avoid stings and arrests, and to convince ourselves we aren't paying for sex. It's not a tip. It's all the girl gets. She doesn't get a cut of the house fee. She is not getting minimum wage. If you don't tip, she gets nothing.

If you would screw a random guy for $60, then great, you can do that with any provider, and at least you won't be doing any worse than you would do for yourself. If, however, you think that idea is disgusting, you might get a small idea of how the providers feel, and you should consider not bargaining them down.

The golden rule baby. No one ever mentions that the punishment for ignoring the golden rule is called karma!

Mr Sixty,

I like what you have to say, but what defines good service? I always looking for a bargain. If I can get $ service for .60 that was a good day. It's not like the chick has something for me. Again, I treat them all with respect, never a dick.

I"m like bend over or lay down and let me do my deed for the next 15 minutes and then I move on. I know everyone has there own opinion, so I'm just curious what you guys expect?

That fat chick I do today, becomes the fine tight young body that I tell my boys about tomorrow.

[PlayerN818]

Hello gents, Total newb here. Completely nervous hoping to try one of these massage place but kind of scared.

Been seeing this ad lately and was wondering if anyone has any experience with it.

http://losangeles.backpage.com/Femal...2-and/68165183

If you meant an actual AMP (Asian Massage Parlor) like in a strip mall or something, this isn't one. This is a private apartment set up. And I agree, don't expect the girl in the ad.

Also, google her number. I'm quite sure you'll get what your hoping for.

[Mondo72]

Hello gents, Total newb here. Completely nervous hoping to try one of these massage place but kind of scared.

Been seeing this ad lately and was wondering if anyone has any experience with it.

http://losangeles.backpage.com/Femal...2-and/68165183

Hey JD,

Don't feel bad man we've all been there.

I've seen the ad too and was wondering about it. The only thing I would say to you is call and take one of the lower price options and find out if you like what's goes on there.

One thing though, don't expect to see the gal with the yellow bikini on the ad when you walk in.

Again, TOFFT and report back and we all will appreciate your contribution to the forum.

Mondo.

[JuanDeezy]

Hello gents, Total newb here. Completely nervous hoping to try one of these massage place but kind of scared.

Been seeing this ad lately and was wondering if anyone has any experience with it.

http://losangeles.backpage.com/Femal...2-and/68165183

[Trickin]

Hey, is this the place on Hawthorne? Thanks!

Yep. Right before the freeway.

[Wireless91910]

Mr Sixty,

I like what you have to say, but what defines good service? I always looking for a bargain. If I can get $ service for .60 that was a good day. It's not like the chick has something for me. Again, I treat them all with respect, never a dick.

I"m like bend over or lay down and let me do my deed for the next 15 minutes and then I move on. I know everyone has there own opinion, so I'm just curious what you guys expect?

That fat chick I do today, becomes the fine tight young body that I tell my boys about tomorrow.




P. S. A note on negotiations. Girls state a price. Some guys like to haggle. This is a fine line. If a girl says, $120 for FS, and you bargain her down to $80, do you really think you are going to get quality service? Yes, some girls start high, expecting to haggle down, and some are just greedy, but they won't give you good service anyway. In best practice, there is no discussion of tip beforehand, and if you stick to the standards, you are usually OK. NEVER ask "How much?" Sometimes, you hand a girl $60 and she asks for $80. If she was good, just give it. If she wasn't, say you don't have it. Don't wave around a wad of money, and not expect her to ask for more. If you open your wallet, remove $60, showing an obviously empty wallet, and hand it to her, chances are she'll be good with it. That said, it's worth keeping an extra $40 or $60 in another pocket for special occasions, emergencies, and super-duper service, etc.

[P1186]

This man is not lying, just got back from there had a brazillian spinner by the name of nicole, she looked about 20 to 23 big tities fantastic booty.

Service was great. Left very satisfied.

Hey, is this the place on Hawthorne? Thanks!

[BigBadNut]

Ok, so I had a really nice "high end" experience $$ The spa looks and feels like a very nice BH border place that anyone man / woman would enjoy. The atmosphere is clean relaxing and the girls (mainly Thai) are cute and younger than 30. The massage is started with a foot bath with tea. The massage was really nice, solid legit work Very relaxing and therapeutic. On the flip the the massage segways from a chest, thigh, lower ab, then at last, the royal HJ. Truly masterful, like they have phd's in two hand happiness. Slow and talented making the whole exp. A 9+. If you want a low end budget oriented this aint it. This place could be just a legit rub but it offers the added bonus. Def not FS from what I saw. You will walk away feeling like you had a "treatment" and pampered. This is a XXX Robertson add near Burton Way just outside BH. Oh BTW some of the girls advertise themselves on BP if you want to get a visual.

[Nutzoid]

You sir, are a legend! I think almost all my questions have been answered here. Just one final question, is it better to go on a weekday afternoon because there'd be fewer customers coming in and so the girls won't be in a rush?

Friday afternoon late is usually busy with interruptions. The 1st and 15th are usually busy. The day before these dates are usually light. The girls are often late. If you get there when they "open", be prepared to wait up to an hour before they arrive. Always get you ATFs cell number. Then you can find her when she moves to another AMP. I've received text messages from girls a year or two later, they took time off and were drumming up some old regulars business. If it is a one girl operation, expect interruptions. I like to DaTyand I don't do Daty unless I know the girl and she doesn't do BB to my knowledge,. I like to be the first monger in the morning if I partake. Never eat or do doggy to a funky smelly pussy. Funky smell means poor hygiene
And no repeat, Always wear a rain coat if it is funky! Bring your own rain coats. Often, they will do CBJ and CFS, but don't wants the covers onsite. I stroke her leg while getting massaged. Moving away is sign of legit. Leaning, widening her legs as you stroke higher, pushing her pussy into your elbow is a pretty good sign! LOL if you want, stroke her back after the flip. Again, she say no, move away or drop her arms down to block if legit. I have had some AMPs be all legit when the owners is there. Then go wild when they leave. By all means, if you find a gem, ask for cell, ask if she is visiting and what days she is working. Ask the mamasan if she speaks poor English. Get her name!

[Trickin]

This man is not lying, just got back from there had a brazillian spinner by the name of nicole, she looked about 20 to 23 big tities fantastic booty.

Service was great. Left very satisfied.

I have been at this place a couple of times. Very good place. First time I met a Korean girl, fantastic body, full service for $100 tip. Second time I met an American girl, not super fit but nicely curvy with fun personality. Same price as before for full service.

This place is highly recommended.

[Mr Sixty]

Hey Md,

Yeah, I would concur with your assessment for afternoon visits.

This is what works for me. I try to hit the place mid afternoon since I don't like rush hour when most MP get kind of busy from mongers getting off work.

Also, Sundays seem to be a slow day for most MP and if you hit it and it's been slow you are liable to get better service since providers are hungry for tips. Then again you have to take this advice with a grain of salt since sometimes the quality of providers is lower than on regular days.

Again, YMMV but this is my experience in the MP scene.

Mondo.

Overall, I agree with Mondo. Though it seems most places have so few girls nowadays that it doesn't take much to create a "rush. " At least, avoid lunch hour and 4-7 pm.

Mornings may seem like a great solution, but a lot of times, girls are late, and there may be no one (or no one good) working. Some places, mamasan will fill in the morning, and only do legit massage. Some places, mamasan has the full menu, but remember, she is probably 50-60. I went to one place once where I got a legit massage, and the masseuse told me, "You should come back after 7, it's a lot more fun. " She said they ran it that way to give the appearance of a legit place during the day. But that was 20 years ago, and another city.

It's all a big crap shoot. Like gambling, don't spend more than you can afford, and learn to enjoy the process. Don't set unreasonable goals, and "check yourself before you wreck yourself. ".

If you are one of those guys who says, "I want a really good massage, followed by GFE sex, from a 10 who is really into me," you are going to be disappointed many, many times. You may find what you want, but expect to spend lots of money on the search.

Happy hunting.

[BigBadNut]

This should be the bible for all newbies!

[Willie23]

Hey Md,

Yeah, I would concur with your assessment for afternoon visits.

This is what works for me. I try to hit the place mid afternoon since I don't like rush hour when most MP get kind of busy from mongers getting off work.

Also, Sundays seem to be a slow day for most MP and if you hit it and it's been slow you are liable to get better service since providers are hungry for tips. Then again you have to take this advice with a grain of salt since sometimes the quality of providers is lower than on regular days.

Again, YMMV but this is my experience in the MP scene.

Mondo.

I have found that late morning is probably best if you don't want constant audio interruptions (or worse, if your provider is the one who speaks English best. She'll be whipping her clothes back on and going to the front). HOWEVER, I have not found any time of day to be a whole lot better than any other. The low-profile places with low traffic tend also to have more regulars. This is not good, because those guys seem to linger and chat as if they don't know you're down the hall with a wilting hard on.

I tried early evening Sunday with the philosophy that if it was a slow day, a provider might want to get stronger tips, and might give a bit more of what I prefer. DATY, FIV, etc. Beyond what they've given up before. Can't really say that panned out.