Site Changes and Improvements

[Binky77]

For people in the USA, the 2 major btc (bitcoin) exchanges (to buy and sell) are:

coinbase.com

circle.com (specify btc as your currency).



For using a computer these days for any purpose I recommend using a VPN for privacy purposes, such as privateinternetaccess.com.

Make sure it is one which guards your anonymity by not keeping/storing data on their servers:

"which-vpn-services-take-your-anonymity-seriously-"

https://torrentfreak.com/which-vpn-s...dition-140315/


Everybody including providers should use the app "Signal" on their smart phones for secure texting. Free and recommended by Edward Snowden.
Both parties must have the Signal app for the texting to be secure.

If anyone has btc or other privacy questions if you post them here also please pm me to notify me since I don't normally access this thread, and I'll try to answer them.

[DMichaels69]

Any busts I've read about its because someone complained or they were doing license checks. Any arrested were charged with a misdemeanor, slap on the hand and nothing more. Some of them did community service could have the charges dropped.

One lady got arrested three times and each was a misdemeanor. No judge could use anything written on this site as evidence.

Not a single one of us is in the US and two of us have Argentine citizenship.

If there are judges allowing probable cause from internet sites then those are really fucking bad judges because I heard you had something to do with the Lindbergh Baby case.

You know what I mean?

In our case, people in one country, servers another, then two corporations in two other countries, man it would take a lot of fucking money to serve us for records when two of those countries have no treaty with the USA.

If this was Silk Road and you guys were doing that stuff then maybe, but it's blow jobs. What the is going to let their ADA's spend that kind of money for a misdemeanor? I think some guys just get off feeling like they are Tony Montana or something.

A2.

[Bus Nut]

Check out the app Blendr. Maybe this can be used. Otherwise, the pop ups are probably best. If you process credit cards, then we are all gambling as it would be a matter of time before they are hacked. But I am game to support.

Don't use a "real" credit card. For gifts and donations prepaid gift Visa's work well, or buy a Green Dot or similar. Just load whatever you want on it, that's all that is at risk from havkers. There is no statement in the mail for your signuficant other to peruse.

I've heard some girls are using Square and Paypal readers.

[Admin2]

Not a single one of us is in the US and two of us have Argentine citizenship.

If there are judges allowing probable cause from internet sites then those are really fucking bad judges because I heard you had something to do with the Lindbergh Baby case.

You know what I mean?

In our case, people in one country, servers another, then two corporations in two other countries, man it would take a lot of fucking money to serve us for records when two of those countries have no treaty with the USA.

If this was Silk Road and you guys were doing that stuff then maybe, but it's blow jobs. What the is going to let their ADA's spend that kind of money for a misdemeanor? I think some guys just get off feeling like they are Tony Montana or something.

A2.

Can serve any "control person" in the USA That is why TER got rid of most of their USA Moderators at one point.

You are right however, they have to find someone in the USA To serve. They do that all the time with BP and I have seen some of their subpoenas that are in the Court records.

That is also why all the old local Phoenix boards shut down in addition to the new AZ law.

There are criminal treaty arrangements with the Netherlands and most other countries. However, the legal process to get a foreign government involved is very complex so basically would assume not a risk.

The serving only is for ads which themselves can be solicitation. Reviews can be used in probably cause statements just from LE being a member which they are on many sites. That is why I suggest more bland reviews without the dirty digest version that is required on TER to get credits. Not so I assume here since I've done Canada more plain reviews without an issue. Same reviews were always rejected when I did long ago on TER.

I am not an attorney but monitor zillions of cases, review court records, trying to pass on knowledge to try and keep folks safer by knowing what is going on in the courts here in Pheonix for the many felonies related to consenting adult sexwork cases.

[DavePHX]

Subpoena who? Where? Owner of record I guess?.

Can serve any "control person" in the USA That is why TER got rid of most of their USA Moderators at one point.

You are right however, they have to find someone in the USA To serve. They do that all the time with BP and I have seen some of their subpoenas that are in the Court records.

That is also why all the old local Phoenix boards shut down in addition to the new AZ law.

There are criminal treaty arrangements with the Netherlands and most other countries. However, the legal process to get a foreign government involved is very complex so basically would assume not a risk.

The serving only is for ads which themselves can be solicitation. Reviews can be used in probably cause statements just from LE being a member which they are on many sites. That is why I suggest more bland reviews without the dirty digest version that is required on TER to get credits. Not so I assume here since I've done Canada more plain reviews without an issue. Same reviews were always rejected when I did long ago on TER.

I am not an attorney but monitor zillions of cases, review court records, trying to pass on knowledge to try and keep folks safer by knowing what is going on in the courts here in Pheonix for the many felonies related to consenting adult sexwork cases.

[Admin2]

Ads of course can be used as evidence via a subpoena duces tecum.

You sound like a lawyer so I won't argue the law, I will tell you what our guys say.

Subpoena who? Where? Owner of record I guess? They aren't involved in the running of the site so they have no documents? Me? Sure if the subpoena includes a round trip ticket. Servers? If they have somebody who can serve one in Germany.

Our guys say that it would be very difficult and expensive to serve for what they could charge anybody for.

[Jayhawkerict]

Once upon a time ISG accepted greenbacks sent to a USA address with a user name as payment for subscription. I don't know if that's still the case, but that would be my preferred method to maintain anonymity. I'll drop a Jackson or two in a security envelope and mail it to you; I trust you guys, and if it does get intercepted in transit, well, I'll just have to mail another. Well worth it.

P.S. I, too, would like to see autocorrect fixed; it's way too aggressive and seriously fucked up.

I'd much rather send a money order or cash to an address then the hassle of buying bitcoin. I've tried looking into bitcoin before. Wasn't worth the time it took to buy it.

[DavePHX]

If the cops could use our site it would be evidence... I'm saying that they don't use it because it gets them nowhere.

I see reviews on the "big board" used in probable cause statements in felony indictments when there is more than just one gal working for herself. Almost impossible to use as evidence at trial, however, can use to do the raid and get real evidence. Also used to get plea deals. Ads of course can be used as evidence via a subpoena duces tecum.

All the local Phoenix boards shut down a few years ago with new Arizona law making it trafficking for anyone assisting which could apply to website owners.

I don't recall ever seeing this site in probable cause statements, but is not that much activity here from in Phoenix.

[SonChi]

We are looking into Bitcoin. We have been burned by a lot of alternative payment sites in the past but we get it, bit coin is kind of a different beast. If it looks like something where we can actually get out money without having to worry about somebody later saying "we are suspending your account and freezing your payment because you are an adult site" then we will probably be in.

A2

Check out the app Blendr. Maybe this can be used. Otherwise, the pop ups are probably best. If you process credit cards, then we are all gambling as it would be a matter of time before they are hacked. But I am game to support.

[Admin2]

We are looking into Bitcoin. We have been burned by a lot of alternative payment sites in the past but we get it, bit coin is kind of a different beast. If it looks like something where we can actually get out money without having to worry about somebody later saying "we are suspending your account and freezing your payment because you are an adult site" then we will probably be in.

A2

[FMichaels4533]

I am also one of the many concerned about anonymity. There was one pay dating site I joined that had a unique payment option. You could actually send in a money order with your screen name to fund your membership. I know it's a bit cumbersome and very old fashioned, but it leaves nothing at all to trace on line. Barring that the prepaid credit card sounds like a good fall back. I'm old and don't do new tech very much, can someone PM me with some info on how Bitcoin works. Bottom line, $20 bucks is nothing for the great service and added security you guys bring us, I just want to make sure I can use the site with the same level of security and discretion that I use with the providers.

[MojoMan]

I am not your most important member, and I don't hobby very often, but I appreciate the intel on this site.

I am a strong advocate of anonymity. Several people in the thread mentioned Ashley M. I also signed up. I used a prepaid CC and a fake name. Never actually contacted or tried to "date" any of the members because I was just looking around.

When the hack happened, there it was. My fake name. Very happy I took precautions. Very bad consequences for me if I hadn't.

All that is to say I would be happy to support the site with Bitcoin. Or if I could use my prepaid CC (set up already with my fake name). But Bitcoin would really be the best solution for me.

[TaxiDriver45]

When you start the new format it would be nice to find a way to reward the guys that are always posting with pics&vids, getting prices and phone #s.

It seems like about 10% of us do all the work for the other 90%. A guy can write a long post explaining all that happened during the act when a video tells all without a word.

[Wbhbdt]

Admin, I thought I'd share my 2 cent regarding your exchange with the guy claiming the police monotor your site. I respectfully disagree with you and here's why.

Several years ago, I used to frequent this place called Lynn's Massage, in a small town called Colimbia, Mo, which is halfway between St. Louis and Kansas City. One weekend while in town I went to visit my little country brothel and it was closed. So I went online to see if I could find out what happened and came accross an article that discussed the investigation that led to it's closure. Upon reading the article, it mentioned a key aspect of the investigation was this website called USA Sex Guide. The article said the police were able to learn what was going on inside of this place by reading the post from the guys. I was very intrigued by this so I looked up the website and my mind was blown.

I registered and have been hooked every since.

With that being said I'd also like to say this. I think it is bogus as fuck that they would solicit your members in such a manner. And to add insult to injury he want to sell gloom and doom. "Their going to start charging" The cops are watching because their site is not private" Do I think cops look at this site, hell yeah. It's informative for us and it can be informative for them as well. But the thing about it is that we share information anonymously and most members are savy enough to know what not to say and for those who don't, you do a brilliant job moderating the site.

So, I would say don't allow them to put you on the defense. There's absolutly nothing wrong with you charging if that's what you wish to do. With your number of mebers and site traffic it would be foolish not to captialize on your site's value. Some people are going to piss and moan but the majority will want to be a part of the growth and look forward to the new things to come. Think about it, Mark Zuckerberg did it and it worked very well for him. ☺.

[ChuckEpoo]

IMHO this site is still number one for quaility information in my area. Clicking on a pop up to improve on a good thing is a no brainier, I don't care if its one, three or ten pop ups, it will be worth it to make the site better. Paying 20 bucks a year is not a big deal. I'm not sure how to do it but a way to verify new members making sure they are not part of the groups that love to hate hobbiests would be outstanding. Being able to obtain senior status just by paying a fee IMHO would be a huge mistake. Guys come to this site because of the good intel that it contains as in the good and bad reviews of the ladies and making sure they are legit. If it wasnt for the guys that go out TOFTT and report back, the site would not be the valualbe asset it is now. A way to reward those that do the work, that take the risks and write the reviews would be a great idea.

And a way to get value out of the many who register and then only come back to get information and never contribute or contribute very little would be awesome.