Court Finds 'Happy Endings' To Be Legitimate Massage Procedure

[Nrlmus]

If this guy doesn't agree with the 4, 5, 6, and 14th amendments, he should resign and move to a different country. "Worth the other (unconstitutional) arrests" is anti-American.

That Cranston Police Chief Col. Michael J. Winquist would say anything that his job requires him to say and what would keep PC police happy with his department. In reality for all you know he maybe himself a hobbyist. I can't think of a single provider I spent time with that didn't tell me that she had members of our finest for clients. Moreover I'm sure that there are enough cops that do what many providers do for work: drive to neighboring state for hobbying.

Many cops are finding themselves being forced into a choice of either being two-faced about the whole thing or losing their jobs. Especially now when with in-cruiser cameras and smart phones all over and with Puritan housewives forever on watch, ladies can no longer get themselves off by trading in their pussies.

Imagine what would happen if the good colonel wouldn't say a thing like that? You know he wouldn't have made colonel, that's for sure. In fact for all you know that's how he probably became chief of police in the first place, and by the way he talks good'ol colonel is sure on the way to be a big time "super" somewhere. The way he works it who knows, one day he may even be your congressman!

As for the constitution. Sorry for being one cynical bastard but for a long time now and increasingly so I've come to the conclusion that constitution is nothing more then a notion used by the local elites to keep their "subjects" in the state of happy make believe in order to have ship going in the direction they want it to go without much interference. The long-overdue reaction to this we're seeing right now.

The only thing is that the "controlled" masses apparently are picking another rich boy and the certified member of the hereditary elite (still from daddy to son you know, no matter how you slice the pie) to bring their constitution back.

Well, remember what the last rich boy did to avenge his daddy almost being killed. He got us into Iraq for no apparent rhyme or reason, the long-term affects of which we are seeing now with ISIS and on the streets of Brussels. The only difference that I can see between the two is the latest one's big mouth.

If anybody doubts that this new rich boy is going to do anything different then the last one did they're living in the la-la land. He already wants to be able to sue the press for insulting him which probably is the paramount issue for him and his rich friends. Next thing you know he'd be threatening to send "his army" out if some world leader (like Russian Putin or the Chinese Xi Jinping) calls him a looser or somehow insults his wife. Rich kids do that. For them we all by definition are losers, numbers and the cannon meat. If he gets in - the United States will be "his dukedom" and US military will be "his army". This country reminds me more and more of my old country and by all appearances I expect this resemblance to increase.

Sorry, just had to say it. Somehow mentioning of constitution got it out of me.

[Brooksy]

In response, Cranston Police Chief Col. Michael J. Winquist said that the possibility of saving a 16-year-old girl from sex slavery is worth the other arrests for sexual conduct for a fee.

If this guy doesn't agree with the 4, 5, 6, and 14th amendments, he should resign and move to a different country. "Worth the other (unconstitutional) arrests" is anti-American.

[Britaly]

It "does nothing to help the trafficking victims who remain ensnared while consenting adults are pursued and arrested," said ACLU of Rhode Island Policy Associate Hillary Davis. "By humiliating and charging johns for seeking consensual sex and by giving prostitutes arrest records in the name of 'helping' them, these operations misleadingly purport to crack down on human trafficking, when their major effect is just to make the lives of prostitutes more difficult and dangerous, driving sex work even deeper into the shadows. ".

I can't believe it. I never thought I would see the day I would agree with the ACLU. Did the earth just shift on its' axis?

[Short Stroke]

SEEKONK, MA—A Mansfield man was snared in a sex sting in Seekonk on Wednesday.

The Seekonk Police Department said that 11 men were arrested after they showed up to a location where police were waiting. The men, police said, had responded to ads soliciting sex for money posted to social media sites unaware that the ads were posted by detectives.

Seekonk Police Chief Craig A. Mace said in a news release that the law enforcement team included Seekonk officers and detectives, officers from surrounding local police departments in Massachusetts and federal agents from the Department of Homeland Security.

The men, ranging in age from 29 to 56, are all facing charges of engaging in sexual conduct for a fee and are free on bail after booking at the Seekonk Police Department on Wednesday. They are all due to be arraigned in Taunton District Court on Thursday.

The sting comes not long after Cranston police led a similar sting using the Backpage.com website, which is frequently used by pimps and prostitutes to solicit Johns for sexual services. Police arrested 17 people, including a 21-year-old Providence woman who was trafficking a 16-year-old girl. The rest were all men, mostly middle aged, who thought they were about to pay for sex.

Sex traffickers primarily use social media sites, Backpage.com, and other similar sites to conduct their business.

Police are especially concerned about the trafficking of minors and vulnerable people by predators who often brutally rape and abuse their victims.

Law enforcement operations targeting Johns have come under fire from civil rights advocates. The state chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union decried the Cranston Police Department's sting last week, saying in a statement that the department was effectively humiliating more than a dozen consenting adults by conflating prostitution with trafficking.

It "does nothing to help the trafficking victims who remain ensnared while consenting adults are pursued and arrested," said ACLU of Rhode Island Policy Associate Hillary Davis. "By humiliating and charging johns for seeking consensual sex and by giving prostitutes arrest records in the name of 'helping' them, these operations misleadingly purport to crack down on human trafficking, when their major effect is just to make the lives of prostitutes more difficult and dangerous, driving sex work even deeper into the shadows. ".

In response, Cranston Police Chief Col. Michael J. Winquist said that the possibility of saving a 16-year-old girl from sex slavery is worth the other arrests for sexual conduct for a fee.

"It is rare for victims of human trafficking to seek assistance on their own as their ability to recognize a need for help is diminished from drug use and conditioning that their lives are worthless," Winquist said. "We will not shield the identities of individuals who come into the City of Cranston looking to pay for sex and will continue to be transparent by making the names of those arrested available to the public through our Department website and media releases. ".

It is the belief of many in law enforcement that both the supply and demand side of the equation should be addressed by police investigations. Social media makes it easy for Johns to find paid-for sex online, creating a lucrative market for traffickers to exploit. Police believe high-profile stings like these will dissuade some Johns from scouring the Internet for sex knowing that a cop might be behind the escort ad.

There is an ongoing debate involving members of law enforcement, civil rights groups and the general public over the enforcement of prostitution laws. Some argue that legalizing prostitution would ensure safety for sex workers and lift some of the stigmas that prevent people from seeking help from drugs or bad situations.

"We commend the organizations in the state actively working to provide social and other support services to sex workers who may have an addiction or need other assistance. But we emphatically reject the notion that the only way these individuals can be helped is if they are first put into handcuffs," Davis said.

[Admin2]

Its unanimous. Henceforth, Jeishein14 shall be obligated to post in MassHoles and stay there.

If only we had the power. LOL.

Your heartfelt appeal has been heard in the halls of Olympus and we who have the power have acted.

A2

[Longjblues]

Its unanimous. Henceforth, Jeishein14 shall be obligated to post in MassHoles and stay there.

If only we had the power. LOL.

What is YOUR profession, by the way?

I hope for your sake you didn't come to this site hoping to make friends and exchange information, that, instead, you came here with the intent to alienate yourself by spouting meandering nonsense and, now, attacking the character of respected contributors to this board. Why? Because I like to see people succeed and be happy. You ARE doing an excellent job at the latter. Bravo! Pretty soon you'll be joining the illustrious company of Bozscaggs, Negriso and a handful of others who populate the "Ignore Lists" of countless members based on their pointless argumentativeness, lunacy, and general trolling. I know you'll soon be joining them on mine! Perhaps the Massholes forum is the place for you. I don't know. I don't venture there as I haven't the time or inclination to engage with idiots.

That said, let's stop wasting bandwidth. I have better things to do. Andy's out of town and Miss Crump is feeling a little neglected. Howard Sprague out. <whump hummmmmm.

[Toujula]

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[Ambrose]

Where's the "like" button?

I'm looking for it too.

[HowardSprague]

Your posts all concern the inevitability of publicity if you're arrested. "Cameras everywhere"! Wow.

In contrast, other members post practical tips about which exits to use at hotels, the likelihood of intrusive / nosy staff, even the pros / cons of specific locales.

I'm abandoning this thread -- and any hopes of your posting actual reviews or intel. Buh-bye!

Where's the "like" button?

[Speeding Ticke]

I always feel like the most obvious thing you can do is pull into the lot and sit waiting for the "cumon Up" call.

I usually wait down the street near by, get the call with a room number, roll into the lot, park, and take a bag in with me. Dunkins, lunch, or gym-bag doesn't matter. Just don't bring a bag of rubbers and dildos!

Sometimes I go to a floor above or below by elevator and then take stairs to the actual floor.

The bigger places are a maze and getting lost is pretty normal. Can't say how many times I have exited on the wrong end of a building or missed the elevator-walked down a hallway and had to turn around.

I am guessing that a ton of regular guest get lost as well.

Well that all works well but if you really want to fly under the radar wait for someone or a small group of people to walk in and act like you are one of the group.

Ocassionaly I will laugh as I'm walking in as if someone just said something funny, and if you are really good you can time it just right to say something cleaver to the.

Person as your walking in, this way it looks like you know them and they know you. The trick is to not wait outside the door, wait in your car and watch for people getting out of their cars walking in.

[HowardSprague]

I recall Howard once mentioning that he is an attorney so I believe he has done his homework.

Yup. (insert smiley face emoticon).

I will offer one caveat. Cops can arrest you for anything. They'll often rely on "disorderly conduct. " That's why I advise ALWAYS being polite when dealing with them. A little common courtesy goes a long way. Don't be an ass and you'll probably be fine. Don't agree to sexual conduct in exchange for a fee. If a provider starts mentioning prices for acts, or even hinting. Decline. State there must be some misunderstanding. State you're not interested in breaking any laws. Exit. You've got more plausible deniability if the ad talks about massage.

[Jack A Dogov]

You're adding facts to your factpattern. You never mentioned either party being a convicted felon. Barring a felony conviction since the DNA sampling legislation went into effect, there would be almost no way to identify the person from DNA alone. There is no comprehensive database of the population. There's also the volume of different DNA in a hotel room and the likely contamination of any sample by the DNA of possibly hundreds of other people. Hotels don't wash bedding as often as you'd like to think.

You're not getting arrested by merely showing up at a sting. Unless and until there is an agreement (and what constitutes an agreement can be very loosely defined) for sexual activity in exchange for a fee there is no crime. It's not an inchoate crime.

I think BillyBaloney called this one.

If you are suggesting that you can't or won't get arrested for walking into a sting operation, you are doing the men on this forum a serious injustice. Do your homework.

I recall Howard once mentioning that he is an attorney so I believe he has done his homework.

[Jeishein14]

You're adding facts to your factpattern. You never mentioned either party being a convicted felon. Barring a felony conviction since the DNA sampling legislation went into effect, there would be almost no way to identify the person from DNA alone. There is no comprehensive database of the population. There's also the volume of different DNA in a hotel room and the likely contamination of any sample by the DNA of possibly hundreds of other people. Hotels don't wash bedding as often as you'd like to think.

You're not getting arrested by merely showing up at a sting. Unless and until there is an agreement (and what constitutes an agreement can be very loosely defined) for sexual activity in exchange for a fee there is no crime. It's not an inchoate crime.

I think BillyBaloney called this one.

If you are suggesting that you can't or won't get arrested for walking into a sting operation, you are doing the men on this forum a serious injustice. Do your homework.

[HowardSprague]

The reality of all this is that there are cameras everywhere. Your visit is a matter of permanent record. Your DNA via pubes and semen are left in the room, as are your fingerprints. If that hotel room becomes the scene of a violent crime at some point after you leave, and even though you may be innocent of said violent crime, you will be a person of interest and your reputation, family life, career prospects, etc. Are destroyed beyond repair. Or perhaps you even become a defendant in a criminal proceeding that could put you away for years. Does it happen? You bet your ass it happens.

Your argument for DNA evidence is completely backwards. Simply put, DNA can be used to (arguably) tie existing suspects to a scene, but it isn't used to find new suspects. Just not even remotely practical at this time, especially in a hotel room.

[Jeishein14]

What about all the mugshots that are published on the Internet? Should those dudes be collecting stamps too?