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  1. #4082

    Tipping at Panacea

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom70  [View Original Post]
    You've really had trouble getting a good HE for $20 at Panacea? I have had consistently great experiences just tipping $40, so I never really considered that I should be saving the little bit of dough. But I guess I'd be curious to hear if people are having problems at the $20 level.

    And why would anyone expect a BJ there? There have been so many monger reports confirming that they are HE only. Isn't that why we share info here; so we know what we can expect. So why do we have a problem with their consistent service?

    If you are looking for a bottom dollar BJ, I agree that you should see an escort and not go to a massage parlor, and certainly not a parlor that is known to offer only HE fun and nothing more. The escort will be consistently cheaper. But maybe you should just pick up a street walker.
    Yes, that is the new policy and I was told that the ladies expect the tip to match the massage now, so $60 for an hour. This was with Alison and I wasn't that impressed. I told her I only brought an extra $40 with me so she took that, but things are definitely going downhill at Panacea. Also, the ladies on the couch work days only, so they'll be out the door by 3:00 pm. What has happened to the massage scene in GR?

  2. #4081
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    Posts: 134
    Quote Originally Posted by Benz1  [View Original Post]
    The way I see it, it's just one more muscle for them to massage, if it's only a HJ then what's the big deal?

    I propose that we all go into Panacea, give them the house fee for their time , offer 20 for a HJ if they say no, proceed with self sevice. LOL. That will fix their attitudes. It's just a frikking HJ and most of them are mechanical anyway. So you're not missing much.

    The new place on 28th near Petros wanted 60 I said 20 and she said 40 I said just give me my massage for the hour and I am good with that, if you want 20 then finish with the HJ. She took the 20. It's your money. Panacea girls can starve with that attitude or offer the full time plus a reasonable tip for a job well done massaging all my muscles.
    If you want a massage by a naked girl with a bj call any escort. She will be cheaper than any girl at Panacea
    You've really had trouble getting a good HE for $20 at Panacea? I have had consistently great experiences just tipping $40, so I never really considered that I should be saving the little bit of dough. But I guess I'd be curious to hear if people are having problems at the $20 level.

    And why would anyone expect a BJ there? There have been so many monger reports confirming that they are HE only. Isn't that why we share info here; so we know what we can expect. So why do we have a problem with their consistent service?

    If you are looking for a bottom dollar BJ, I agree that you should see an escort and not go to a massage parlor, and certainly not a parlor that is known to offer only HE fun and nothing more. The escort will be consistently cheaper. But maybe you should just pick up a street walker.

  3. #4080
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    Posts: 4442

    Massage

    Quote Originally Posted by MrCruzer  [View Original Post]
    I agree that is BS. Technically, a "tip" is supposed to be for service above what is normal or expected. When providers pull that on me, I tell them that I always tip at the end. Allmost all of them come around and give at least a half hearted HJ / HE. The few times they have not, I did not tip (I believe in not rewarding bad bahavior). If they give it any thought, if they don't give service, they are working the hour for only what the cut from the house is. With the right ending, they make $40 + for less than five minutes of their time. That, it seems, should be a no-brainer.
    The way I see it, it's just one more muscle for them to massage, if it's only a HJ then what's the big deal?

    I propose that we all go into Panacea, give them the house fee for their time , offer 20 for a HJ if they say no, proceed with self sevice. LOL. That will fix their attitudes. It's just a frikking HJ and most of them are mechanical anyway. So you're not missing much.

    The new place on 28th near Petros wanted 60 I said 20 and she said 40 I said just give me my massage for the hour and I am good with that, if you want 20 then finish with the HJ. She took the 20. It's your money. Panacea girls can starve with that attitude or offer the full time plus a reasonable tip for a job well done massaging all my muscles.
    If you want a massage by a naked girl with a bj call any escort. She will be cheaper than any girl at Panacea

  4. #4079

    Panacea

    Quote Originally Posted by Shawtren  [View Original Post]
    Last time I went to Panacea, I was told that BEFORE the session even started, they expected to see a tip on the counter. She came in, said, "Oh, there's no tip on the counter. So you just want a plain massage!" It wasn't a question. It was a statement. I told her, no I would like to get the same service I always got from Natasha or Aliese. She told me that all the girls expect the tip to be out first so they know what to do without being too 'forward'.

    Well that was bullshit. I figure there is no way I am going to tip someone that I have never dealt with before without knowing what I would get. I decided that I would explore other options instead.

    Is this really their policy? I certainly would do that for Natasha, but no one else.
    I agree that is BS. Technically, a "tip" is supposed to be for service above what is normal or expected. When providers pull that on me, I tell them that I always tip at the end. Allmost all of them come around and give at least a half hearted HJ / HE. The few times they have not, I did not tip (I believe in not rewarding bad bahavior). If they give it any thought, if they don't give service, they are working the hour for only what the cut from the house is. With the right ending, they make $40 + for less than five minutes of their time. That, it seems, should be a no-brainer.

  5. #4078
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    Posts: 134
    Quote Originally Posted by Shawtren  [View Original Post]
    Last time I went to Panacea, I was told that BEFORE the session even started, they expected to see a tip on the counter. She came in, said, "Oh, there's no tip on the counter. So you just want a plain massage!" It wasn't a question. It was a statement. I told her, no I would like to get the same service I always got from Natasha or Aliese. She told me that all the girls expect the tip to be out first so they know what to do without being too 'forward'.

    Well that was bullshit. I figure there is no way I am going to tip someone that I have never dealt with before without knowing what I would get. I decided that I would explore other options instead.

    Is this really their policy? I certainly would do that for Natasha, but no one else.
    They just started that a couple months ago. Too many guys were stiffing them with no tip at all. This seems to work well for me, cause the girls now get comfortable right from the start.

  6. #4077
    Quote Originally Posted by Shawtren  [View Original Post]
    Last time I went to Panacea, I was told that BEFORE the session even started, they expected to see a tip on the counter. She came in, said, "Oh, there's no tip on the counter. So you just want a plain massage!" It wasn't a question. It was a statement. I told her, no I would like to get the same service I always got from Natasha or Aliese. She told me that all the girls expect the tip to be out first so they know what to do without being too 'forward'.

    Well that was bullshit. I figure there is no way I am going to tip someone that I have never dealt with before without knowing what I would get. I decided that I would explore other options instead.

    Is this really their policy? I certainly would do that for Natasha, but no one else.
    Been in twice recently. Peyton didn't mention tip at all, but Nikki wanted up front.

  7. #4076
    Quote Originally Posted by Shawtren  [View Original Post]
    Last time I went to Panacea, I was told that BEFORE the session even started, they expected to see a tip on the counter. She came in, said, "Oh, there's no tip on the counter. So you just want a plain massage!" It wasn't a question. It was a statement. I told her, no I would like to get the same service I always got from Natasha or Aliese. She told me that all the girls expect the tip to be out first so they know what to do without being too 'forward'.

    Well that was bullshit. I figure there is no way I am going to tip someone that I have never dealt with before without knowing what I would get. I decided that I would explore other options instead.

    Is this really their policy? I certainly would do that for Natasha, but no one else.
    Yep. I was told that at the reception desk before even getting to a room. I hate that place. And, the no-shower situation is ridiculous for a place that dumps a gallon of oil on you. There's much better options elsewhere.

  8. #4075

    Panacea Tip

    Last time I went to Panacea, I was told that BEFORE the session even started, they expected to see a tip on the counter. She came in, said, "Oh, there's no tip on the counter. So you just want a plain massage!" It wasn't a question. It was a statement. I told her, no I would like to get the same service I always got from Natasha or Aliese. She told me that all the girls expect the tip to be out first so they know what to do without being too 'forward'.

    Well that was bullshit. I figure there is no way I am going to tip someone that I have never dealt with before without knowing what I would get. I decided that I would explore other options instead.

    Is this really their policy? I certainly would do that for Natasha, but no one else.

  9. #4074

    Janelle Panacea

    Quote Originally Posted by Grube  [View Original Post]
    Accidentally posted in wrong forum.

    Saw melissa at panacea a week ago or so. Cute mid-20's white girl with nice t&a.

    Mediocre massage but that's not really what I go for. Light teasing, then slight upsell on the flip, excellent topless w / roaming HE for. 40.

    Would repeat! I've seen almost all the panacea girls now, except for Alison and Janelle, anyone seen them?
    Janelle has black hair and IMHO a great body. Probably the largest natural chest I have seen on a physically fit girl. She is probably young 20's. Sweet voice. Very sexy. Decent massage with too much oil. She was topless before the flip so that she could use them to help massage my back. No talk of tip. Allowed roaming all over and kissing of the oily boobs (that was not planned out well). HE then she was gone. Screwed me out of 20 minutes. I didn't get angry about that until now. I will repeat but I will stipulate that I expect 60 minutes.

  10. #4073

    Fs

    Is there a dependable place in GR to get FS as far as massage parlors go. I am from Jackson and all of the AMP's there offer it. Can't seem to find what I am looking for here.

  11. #4072

    Melissa at panacea

    Accidentally posted in wrong forum.

    Saw melissa at panacea a week ago or so. Cute mid-20's white girl with nice t&a.

    Mediocre massage but that's not really what I go for. Light teasing, then slight upsell on the flip, excellent topless w / roaming HE for. 40.

    Would repeat! I've seen almost all the panacea girls now, except for Alison and Janelle, anyone seen them?

  12. #4071
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    Posts: 134
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveTheLips  [View Original Post]
    Haven't had the chance to get over to Panacea lately but curious as to new talent there. Anyone partake lately? I know that my fave, Natasha is still there but Natalie and Aliese are gone. I'm hoping for some new younger petite ones!!
    Tia is really cute, young, and petite. Natasha, Tia, Peyton, Niki, and Melissa all get the thumbs up from me. PM me if you want any more specifics.

    http://grandrapids.backpage.com/Body...nacea/22054231

    Melissa is the girl in the couch pic, sitting between Tia and Peyton. The others on my short list all have individual pics in this add. With their names listed.

  13. #4070
    Quote Originally Posted by Tom70  [View Original Post]
    If a woman or parlor advertises in the backpage adult entertainment section, you can presume there is a menu. Some only go for HE and mutual massage, others are more accommodating. But a girl would have to be a huge creep to put an ad in the adult section and then feign shock when a patron expected an adult session.

    The basic etiquette is to keep the texting and phone discussion limited to scheduling details. When you meet, you can then discuss specifics, and should expect the girl won't object to that discussion.

    But this site can get you way ahead of those guidelines. We have folks who have seen Jade and can PM details. Sadly, I cannot as I've tried and failed to get scheduled with Jade several times now.
    Word. Thanks man!! I will try and let ya know. But. You. Know my recent track record.

  14. #4069

    Panacea?

    Haven't had the chance to get over to Panacea lately but curious as to new talent there. Anyone partake lately? I know that my fave, Natasha is still there but Natalie and Aliese are gone. I'm hoping for some new younger petite ones!!

  15. #4068
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    Posts: 134

    Etiquette

    Quote Originally Posted by SeekerOfSex  [View Original Post]
    Ok so I'm. Not new to mongering but I have no clue how to do body rub incalls. I have no idea what the etiquette is. I've gone to a lady who advertised "body rubs" who definitely was only using that as a cover. I'm thinking heavily about jade. The reason I'm. Even considering this is because of all the flakes here in GR. So anyways, a friendly PM on proper behavior would be great. Especially if you've seen Jade. Thanks guys!

    http://grandrapids.backpage.com/Body...-step/17497101
    If a woman or parlor advertises in the backpage adult entertainment section, you can presume there is a menu. Some only go for HE and mutual massage, others are more accommodating. But a girl would have to be a huge creep to put an ad in the adult section and then feign shock when a patron expected an adult session.

    The basic etiquette is to keep the texting and phone discussion limited to scheduling details. When you meet, you can then discuss specifics, and should expect the girl won't object to that discussion.

    But this site can get you way ahead of those guidelines. We have folks who have seen Jade and can PM details. Sadly, I cannot as I've tried and failed to get scheduled with Jade several times now.

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