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**Amateur11** · 02-23-16 22:56

Originally Posted by FatLever [View Original Post]

Just a side note. I've gotten to know way too much about this and really care for some of these girls. I could write like 3 pages on this but it would give away so much of different people's anonymity but just want to say this.

Most of these are very young girls. They get addicted to pills which most of the time are first prescribed to them. Now there is a crackdown making it strict to get these pills. These pills are opiates. These girls then turn to heroin once they cannot get them. It's not just a problem in Raleigh but across the country. That is why heroin has made such a comeback. Also, someone noted that they noticed that black girls don't seem to have the same problem. My feeling is that these prescription pills are more common in middle-class even if lower-middle class white families or it may also be more culturally inclined or accepted.

Once you get on, it is near impossible to get off. I've read about it, saw movies about my rockstar icons and I've seen it with my own eyes in detail. I don't want to go into detail about it but if some of us are having trouble with giving up sex addiction, that is like giving up chewing gum compared to getting off this.

Really fucking tragic. A lot of this I attribute to the medical / pharmaceutical companies and I've really stopped viewing these girls like many of us do. It's not a simple formula like "Hey don't do drugs, they're bad" or "The sooner they learn not to blame society and make something of their lives" etc. This problem is created by society.

For expanding on my point and stating the absolute truth. Exactly the reason the real blame lies with Big Pharma, then doctors, and it trickles down from there. When we all die of MRSA we can further thank doctors for overprescribing antibiotics for the past 60 years. Personally, I have no fucking use for doctors. I know my body better than anyone, and I sure as shit wouldn't take a pain pill other than ibuprofen, or a goddamn antidepressant to fix a "life situation" that can't be fixed by a damn pill to begin with. And the cycle of expensive health care starts here and continues in an endless loop, pharma and large hospitals buying out all the small doctor; s practices, trying to get all the business under fewer roofs, then create dependency that gets those same people back in those hospitals with no insurance, which leads to Obamacare, which drives up rates for the rest of us, and leads to a heroin epidemic. Fucking kidding me? Ok, maybe off-topic, but yes, supply and demand, refuse to see girls addicted to the stuff and the demand will go down, otherwise we are just another part of the Big Problem.

**TwoShots** · 02-23-16 22:55

Originally Posted by FatLever [View Original Post]

Not what he expected when he asked for doggie.

Thanks man, coffee all over my screen! LOL!

**FatLever** · 02-23-16 22:46

Originally Posted by Amateur11 [View Original Post]

Yeah, this is pretty much what I was thinking, and not surprised. You seem to know what I know, just times ten, based on your experience. If you look at the hometowns of the girls, it makes even more sense. On a side rant, heroin is killing a generation that already has enough challenges. We as a society will be paying this price for a long time to come. To really fix the problem, all the prosecutorial money currently being spent to process and adjudicate the non-dealer addicts should be redirected 100% to treatment and job placement / educational assistance, and a large one-time tax should be levied against the doctors and pharmaceutical companies who pushed Oxy on patients like it was fucking candy for the past 15 years. But, what makes sense will never happen. It does make you want to avoid the addicts on BP when you realize how feeling this addiction is costing us all money and productivity on the end. End of rant.

Just a side note. I've gotten to know way too much about this and really care for some of these girls. I could write like 3 pages on this but it would give away so much of different people's anonymity but just want to say this.

Most of these are very young girls. They get addicted to pills which most of the time are first prescribed to them. Now there is a crackdown making it strict to get these pills. These pills are opiates. These girls then turn to heroin once they cannot get them. It's not just a problem in Raleigh but across the country. That is why heroin has made such a comeback. Also, someone noted that they noticed that black girls don't seem to have the same problem. My feeling is that these prescription pills are more common in middle-class even if lower-middle class white families or it may also be more culturally inclined or accepted.

Once you get on, it is near impossible to get off. I've read about it, saw movies about my rockstar icons and I've seen it with my own eyes in detail. I don't want to go into detail about it but if some of us are having trouble with giving up sex addiction, that is like giving up chewing gum compared to getting off this.

Really fucking tragic. A lot of this I attribute to the medical / pharmaceutical companies and I've really stopped viewing these girls like many of us do. It's not a simple formula like "Hey don't do drugs, they're bad" or "The sooner they learn not to blame society and make something of their lives" etc. This problem is created by society.

**Donatello** · 02-23-16 22:38

Originally Posted by Amateur11 [View Original Post]

Yeah, this is pretty much what I was thinking, and not surprised. You seem to know what I know, just times ten, based on your experience. If you look at the hometowns of the girls, it makes even more sense. On a side rant, heroin is killing a generation that already has enough challenges. We as a society will be paying this price for a long time to come. To really fix the problem, all the prosecutorial money currently being spent to process and adjudicate the non-dealer addicts should be redirected 100% to treatment and job placement / educational assistance, and a large one-time tax should be levied against the doctors and pharmaceutical companies who pushed Oxy on patients like it was fucking candy for the past 15 years. But, what makes sense will never happen. It does make you want to avoid the addicts on BP when you realize how feeding this addiction is costing us all money and productivity in the end. End of rant.

It's a hard topic to bring up, certainly an unpopular one. But I have to wonder if our seeing these girls only contributes to the problem. Basic economics of supply and demand at work. If the pimps are offering up these girls and keeping their more-than-fair share, it becomes an endless cycle.

Personally, I try to stick with UTR or SB gals if possible, but I don't always make the right choices. Late-night small-minded thinking gets the better of me too often.

**Amateur11** · 02-23-16 22:32

Originally Posted by FatLever [View Original Post]

The common thread is Heroin. It rules Raleigh right now. Pretty much everyone is doing it, that's how they are entering the game. Most of the time, they are entering the game using the same few pimps who know how to run things like put up an ad, get rooms, driver, get dope, etc. Then they go independent once they learn the ropes.

Almost all these girls know each other. They either worked together someone or know each other from dealer acquaintance or small towns in the vicinity. How do I know? I've had them tell me the real first names of 7-8 girls in seconds flat. I myself can tie together probably 20 or so girls with 2 degrees of separation.

Yeah, this is pretty much what I was thinking, and not surprised. You seem to know what I know, just times ten, based on your experience. If you look at the hometowns of the girls, it makes even more sense. On a side rant, heroin is killing a generation that already has enough challenges. We as a society will be paying this price for a long time to come. To really fix the problem, all the prosecutorial money currently being spent to process and adjudicate the non-dealer addicts should be redirected 100% to treatment and job placement / educational assistance, and a large one-time tax should be levied against the doctors and pharmaceutical companies who pushed Oxy on patients like it was fucking candy for the past 15 years. But, what makes sense will never happen. It does make you want to avoid the addicts on BP when you realize how feeding this addiction is costing us all money and productivity in the end. End of rant.

**FatLever** · 02-23-16 22:23

Originally Posted by Amateur11 [View Original Post]

First of all, I'm not going to divulge specifics, so don't ask. I'll throw this out there, and maybe someone has a general answer because they've come across the same thing.

What would you think if you saw a certain social media profile of a girl who is local, who you've never seen in the hobby, just mugshots related to theft and FTA, who has at LEAST 4 known BP girls, like longtime girls, some of whom we know are addicts, some who we've recently posted about going downhill fast, as well as has known bail bondsmen on their profile as well? What is the common theme here? Drugs? Pimps? Working UTR? Very odd to see all this and it gets the wheels turning.

The common thread is Heroin. It rules Raleigh right now. Pretty much everyone is doing it, that's how they are entering the game. Most of the time, they are entering the game using the same few pimps who know how to run things like put up an ad, get rooms, driver, get dope, etc. Then they go independent once they learn the ropes.

Almost all these girls know each other. They either worked together someone or know each other from dealer acquaintance or small towns in the vicinity. How do I know? I've had them tell me the real first names of 7-8 girls in seconds flat. I myself can tie together probably 20 or so girls with 2 degrees of separation.

**Toy Soldier** · 02-23-16 22:11

But said pimp is likely their drug supplier.

Originally Posted by Amateur11 [View Original Post]

First of all, I'm not going to divulge specifics, so don't ask. I'll throw this out there, and maybe someone has a general answer because they've come across the same thing.

What would you think if you saw a certain social media profile of a girl who is local, who you've never seen in the hobby, just mugshots related to theft and FTA, who has at LEAST 4 known BP girls, like longtime girls, some of whom we know are addicts, some who we've recently posted about going downhill fast, as well as has known bail bondsmen on their profile as well? What is the common theme here? Drugs? Pimps? Working UTR? Very odd to see all this and it gets the wheels turning.

**Amateur11** · 02-23-16 21:54

First of all, I'm not going to divulge specifics, so don't ask. I'll throw this out there, and maybe someone has a general answer because they've come across the same thing.

What would you think if you saw a certain social media profile of a girl who is local, who you've never seen in the hobby, just mugshots related to theft and FTA, who has at LEAST 4 known BP girls, like longtime girls, some of whom we know are addicts, some who we've recently posted about going downhill fast, as well as has known bail bondsmen on their profile as well? What is the common theme here? Drugs? Pimps? Working UTR? Very odd to see all this and it gets the wheels turning.

**MikeLittle** · 02-23-16 20:36

I was in the mood for someone new. Was looking around, and called this girl. She looked pretty to me. After setting up an appointment with Kimmy, I called this girl since Kimmy wasn't available immediately. Still setup with Kimmy an hour later. Went to see Becky. She verify me that am not LEO. Got the room number. Another girl in the bathroom. As soon as I handed off the donation for hh, she starts telling me the rules. It got me thrown off. She was beautiful. Better than her pictures. Natural, not as thick as pictures, small waist, natural boobs and curvy ass. She says no kissing, not even on the neck, then no daty, no fingers. Gave me a decent CBJ. Started missionairy, then finished off doggy. It was some great view. She literally made a S curve. Awesome sight. Busted, and I was late to see Kimmy. Anyways, for Becky you might want to just do a qv. She upsells everything else.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEs...t-wet/24971392

Now abotu Kimmy:

I thought I would be the first one to report, but saw chapelhill man did. I really liked her very much. She is not thick as thick. Perfect body imo. Awesome breast, sharp nipples, very responsive. She enjoyed Daty a lot. I had a good time with her. Infact wish to see her again. She is from SFO. Not much conversation. Very quiet girl. But did cooperate very well.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEs...ottie/21988352

And then I go see my UTR girl. This city keeps me crazy busy I really wish to find a nice massage therapist who offer extras. That would be my ticket to stop this hobby. Man, this is getting crazy everyday. If anyone were able to stop this, PM me. I want to. Badly.

**MikeLittle** · 02-23-16 20:26

Originally Posted by ILoveDeams [View Original Post]

LOL. Exactly not the doggie I expected.

This is very funny.

**ILoveDeams** · 02-23-16 19:13

Originally Posted by Vossen [View Original Post]

WTF? Are you being serious? Did you get your money back?
Secondly, is that really the girl in the pics?

Serious man!! No BS! I was scared for myself. The first time I saw this girl was over a year ago and she did not have any dog then. This is a new addition to her group LOL.

Pictures are her, she and her few friends come by every few months.

**ILoveDeams** · 02-23-16 19:10

Originally Posted by FatLever [View Original Post]

Not what he expected when he asked for doggie.

LOL. Exactly not the doggie I expected.

**FatLever** · 02-23-16 17:47

Originally Posted by Vossen [View Original Post]

Originally Posted by ILoveDeams [View Original Post]

Forgot to mention this on the board. Sunday, I was in mood for Marilyn, I know I have reviewed her before and a bad review as well. But Just the thought of that body wanted me to have a go with her again. So called her she way at the famous motel on Glenwood. Got there and she asks if we have met before and I say yes. Get into the room and put the donation on the table, heard some noise in the bathroom and I asked her if she had her friend in there, she says and her dog as well. All of a sudden the dog a pitbull bolts out of the bathroom and attacks me. I was thinking to myself 'I'm fucked! The dog pounced on me and bites me on my arm, lucky for me I had a warm fleece on so the dog's bite didn't get me. The girl who was hiding in the bathroom came running out and got the dog just in time before it could maul me. Anyways wanted to share my close encounter!

http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/raleigh/0/28/332187

WTF? Are you being serious? Did you get your money back?

Secondly, is that really the girl in the pics?

Not what he expected when he asked for doggie.

**Vossen** · 02-23-16 17:38

Originally Posted by ILoveDeams [View Original Post]

Forgot to mention this on the board. Sunday, I was in mood for Marilyn, I know I have reviewed her before and a bad review as well. But Just the thought of that body wanted me to have a go with her again. So called her she way at the famous motel on Glenwood. Got there and she asks if we have met before and I say yes. Get into the room and put the donation on the table, heard some noise in the bathroom and I asked her if she had her friend in there, she says and her dog as well. All of a sudden the dog a pitbull bolts out of the bathroom and attacks me. I was thinking to myself 'I'm fucked! The dog pounced on me and bites me on my arm, lucky for me I had a warm fleece on so the dog's bite didn't get me. The girl who was hiding in the bathroom came running out and got the dog just in time before it could maul me. Anyways wanted to share my close encounter!

http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/raleigh/0/28/332187

WTF? Are you being serious? Did you get your money back?
Secondly, is that really the girl in the pics?