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**KcSkater** · 02-18-16 01:03

Originally Posted by Sobe69 [View Original Post]

She use to be fun sexy and very talented. Hung with a demon crowd but did not show signs but they are definitely there now! Last dream smoke filled room and more needles than what's on a porcupine among others demon tools.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEs...calls/22633840

I've been on this board lurking for a couple of months now and I hate to say it but I'm appalled by the girls down here. A lot of them seem to have really bad issues, drug habits or continually get picked up. Coming from KC we had a lot of girls that didn't have these issues. At least if they did, they were hidden. I also used other boards and this one seems to be catching all of the lower end girls. Am I missing something or are the girls down here just that bad? I don't mean to be offensive, however I've never run into this many girls with clear issues with drugs, pimps, price gouging / haggling and issue with LEO. I'm well aware of the other boards but there just doesn't seem to be that much traffic down here except for bottom of the barrel or really high priced. Just my two cents. Hopefully someone can help me on this matter. Thanks!

**MrSmithwick** · 02-18-16 00:45

I guess your desire to slum it hasn't paid off. This is pretty normal of cheap dates. The fact of the matter is, if they are cheap they are desperate and if there is a cheap rate, you better bet that there are a LOT of interested mongers calling on them. There are roughly 160,000 males in Wake County between age 25 and 60. I'm going to estimate that 1% of them are mongers which leaves us with 1600 seekers in wake county alone. Now, with that said, just think about how many are seeking to get laid for really cheap. Let that sink in for a minute. You better bet that cheap girls phone is ringing. She doesn't have to give a damn about good service because if you don't see her, someone else is on the way. I've watched this happen with a BP girl I used to see. Better yet, tell your favorite actively posting cheap BP girl (when you visit her) to leave the ringer on her phone on. I guarantee you it won't let up. Even the nasty girls, BBW girls and ugly girls are making money. This is why you see the same girls posting day in and day out. It's not because they arent busy, it's because they need to get it out there that they are available and give many faces access to them to keep the ball rolling. Some of you might like these high volume girls, some of you may not. But just let that info sink in for a minute. Finally, if you decide that you want to go higher end, there is an available tool for you to use to ensure you are seeing someone you can count on. This is better use of your funds rather than crapshooting BP. I've been in this hobby a VERY long time, I've had my fair share of BP girl problems. Never again. Those of you who say "I'd never spend 300 on a girl. Ever" Well over a course of time, you'd waste more than that on silly BP hooker decisions then come to the board and complain about it. Point I am making is that you can make better use of your funds.

Here's the metric.

10 - 30 min BP dates a month at 120 each = 1200.

Let's assume 5 of those were not great and you were remorseful. That's 600 bucks you could have spend with very well reviewed and reputable ladies netting you 2 great dates.

However, not many of you will look at the money you wasted and could have used in better areas because you dick is very powerful in helping you make stupid decisions.

Even at 5 - 30 min dates a month and 3 were not great you wasted 360 on stupid shit.

When will the madness ever end? You can get more mileage out of your funds if you limit yourself to well reviewed and reputable ladies. Then you can ween yourself off (you guessed it).

Originally Posted by FatLever [View Original Post]

Still feeling sick from this dream with Brooke. Trying to go lower and lower end. . 6 QV, waiting in the parking lot for 45 minutes. The pics intrigued me I guess since it looked like she could be a diamond in the rough kind of like the Jewels who seems to disappeared since Jersey got nabbed by Uncle.

Well, she has demons, has a pudgy body with a stomach but doesn't make up for it in any way with a flabby body with no curves and rough skin. Hasn't put any effort on her bland face and appearance. I am feeling sick to my stomach really and let her give me a mechanical CBJ. Go MISH and I am feeling nauseous because I like to fuck beautiful girls -- if not face, then at least body, or at least good pussy.

This is really making me sick, I don't think I can see another girl for a while. Some random thoughts though, made me think of the movie Beautiful Girls from way back in the early nineties which depicted how shallow we men are, how we have expectations to be with only beautiful women and the double standards we have of thinking women should accept us no matter what. But really, she should have paid me.

Only lost. 6, I don't think much is on the menu, she seems to be doing this very reluctantly. Seriously thinking of the early 90's, when I did some SWs, ugggh, I don't think going this low end is for me again. And LittleLever isn't as young as he used to be when he'd jump at attention at any pussy plus he's gotten spoiled rotten over the years.

Of note though was she mentioned her friend was Jasmine, who seems to have some decent looking pictures so if she's also. 6 QV, might be worth a try for bargain hunters in the airport area.

Myself, I am thinking I might have to get delivery on one of those beautiful looking RDU girls for some big bucks to cleanse my thoughts of this experience.

First link is her friend Jasmine's posting:

http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEs...pecial/6937601

Below is her:

http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEs...2girls/6931197

**KcSkater** · 02-18-16 00:20

Originally Posted by Jan2050 [View Original Post]

She is a sweetheart, there are limits but you will enjoy her company as much as her body. I think it was $ for hhr. When I saw her few months ago. If you are a boob guy, may want to move on though.

I will def be seeing her!

**MrSmithwick** · 02-18-16 00:09

We don't give away our UTR's because asshats from this board ruin it. I gave one of my UTR's up once to a handful of guys to help her out in my absence and they were complete jerks to her, thought they could lowball her rate and do unsafe shit.

Originally Posted by Amateur11 [View Original Post]

Is a night out with your SO or buddies. You can have an experience for $300. A piece of ass is not worth $300, unless maybe she's famous, which counts as an experience. So, unless she's hot as hell, has something very special, and wants to come to my place where I give her $300 and nothing more than some wine and music for 4 hours, then maybe there could be a case made for it. Barring that combination and those 2 scenarios, no way in hell any piece of ass will get $300 from me. I currently have a sweet-as-can-be 18 yo who is slightly UTR for $50 a pop. Price-gougers with pretty pictures will always get enough low-hanging fruit (desperate suckers who let the little head use their ATM card) to make it worth their while I guess. And please, do not PM me about the 18yo. This is one I'm not sharing. I don't want her ruined

**TokyoJeffRo** · 02-17-16 23:30

First time poster, short time lurker.

Hi Everyone,

Had a HH with Sarah Leigh this evening. She's moved over near Capital Blvd. She is young, cute, and attentive. You can count me among her many fans here.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEs...ecial/26177455

I did see her handler / boyfriend leave the room and hang around, but it was not a problem.

Happy Hunting!

**Jan2050** · 02-17-16 21:59

Originally Posted by XxJohnJohnXx [View Original Post]

I see amber Luv is comign trought our town tomorro!! I believe she has been reviewed here by some of yall? What were her rates? And is she worth it? Please either PM me or reply to my post!! I Smell she is one of them 300/ h kinda girl, I don't know if I want to spend all that LOL link below:

http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEs...a-5pm/10546141

She is a sweetheart, there are limits but you will enjoy her company as much as her body. I think it was $ for hhr. When I saw her few months ago. If you are a boob guy, may want to move on though.

**XxJohnJohnXx** · 02-17-16 21:41

I see amber Luv is comign trought our town tomorro!! I believe she has been reviewed here by some of yall? What were her rates? And is she worth it? Please either PM me or reply to my post!! I Smell she is one of them 300/ h kinda girl, I don't know if I want to spend all that LOL link below:

http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEs...a-5pm/10546141

**Amateur11** · 02-17-16 21:29

Originally Posted by ILoveDeams [View Original Post]

I've been seeing quiet a few providers post on BP lately that I've been wanting to see but have been put off just because of their high price of entry. I do not even know if they are worth that, or if their pictures are even real or how their service is. Sometimes I wonder if girls are just popping up thinking BP is a good place to make money quick and think this is what I'm worth and pull that number out of their arse. WTF seriously!!

Its not that I would not pay that high a price. I see Noa every now and then, but I know what exactly getting. Exceptional time!! I rather see her than risk my $$$ on an unknown new face on BP.

I have seen women on BP with high entry and they are so many rules, to the extent I spent 150 one time just on a CBJ and then trying to upsell me for FS for extra 200 by Honey. Then there was that Hawaiian Girl forget her name was again some ridiculous amount and business like approach. There are many incidents like that and it makes me wonder if these are worth it? Here are the links that I was referring to.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEs...e-now/26391920

http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEs...-sexy/25704372

Sometimes I'm thinking if 300 is the new normal I should start posting as well. LOL.

Is a night out with your SO or buddies. You can have an experience for $300. A piece of ass is not worth $300, unless maybe she's famous, which counts as an experience. So, unless she's hot as hell, has something very special, and wants to come to my place where I give her $300 and nothing more than some wine and music for 4 hours, then maybe there could be a case made for it. Barring that combination and those 2 scenarios, no way in hell any piece of ass will get $300 from me. I currently have a sweet-as-can-be 18 yo who is slightly UTR for $50 a pop. Price-gougers with pretty pictures will always get enough low-hanging fruit (desperate suckers who let the little head use their ATM card) to make it worth their while I guess. And please, do not PM me about the 18yo. This is one I'm not sharing. I don't want her ruined

**Pubb69** · 02-17-16 19:37

Originally Posted by Crtchadialhntr [View Original Post]

You have good taste my friend! Both are young and hot, maybe just getting into this. Seem young and naive to me. They won't get many calls on BP at that rate. They will drop rates or drop out. As far as rates though, if you don't ask for it you don't know if people will pay it. But I would never chance it with no reviews. Fatlever? Your balls are obviously bigger than mine.

Re: Honey, glad I didn't see her. She was on my list before your review. Hawaiian girl too. Both of them were here for a little while and moved on. Seems like they had a sort of upcharge scam that only works if.

You keep moving from town to town. Which explains why neither is here now.

One is Naomi and she is reviewed from last year. Her reviews were poor and her rate was less then so that is one to avoid.

No one wants to go in guessing if your going to be treated right at that rate.

**SkeetShooter** · 02-17-16 18:34

Originally Posted by Johnny6722 [View Original Post]

If we simply abstain when rates go up, they will come down and fast. Most of these girls are new, or just plain greedy. Let them sit in a hotel room with no calls for a few days, then see what happens.

Economics 101, sir. You are correct. Problem is, we won't do anything other than debate about it, LOL. The supply is generating demand without respect to availability, quality, or cost. (Some might call it product whipped and supply chained, lmao).

**JRoy12** · 02-17-16 18:22

Originally Posted by ILoveDeams [View Original Post]

I've been seeing quiet a few providers post on BP lately that I've been wanting to see but have been put off just because of their high price of entry. I do not even know if they are worth that, or if their pictures are even real or how their service is. Sometimes I wonder if girls are just popping up thinking BP is a good place to make money quick and think this is what I'm worth and pull that number out of their arse. WTF seriously!!

Its not that I would not pay that high a price. I see Noa every now and then, but I know what exactly getting. Exceptional time!! I rather see her than risk my $$$ on an unknown new face on BP.

I have seen women on BP with high entry and they are so many rules, to the extent I spent 150 one time just on a CBJ and then trying to upsell me for FS for extra 200 by Honey. Then there was that Hawaiian Girl forget her name was again some ridiculous amount and business like approach. There are many incidents like that and it makes me wonder if these are worth it? Here are the links that I was referring to.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEs...e-now/26391920

http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEs...-sexy/25704372

Sometimes I'm thinking if 300 is the new normal I should start posting as well. LOL.

I would pay $$$hr for girls that actually look like this if they had great reviews and were GFE. Its what agency GFE girls are getting and the "legit" girls on P*11 and other screening sites are getting. BUT, until I start seeing positive reviews I'm not calling. Not a TOFTT kind of guy. Especially at that kind of price point.

**SkeetShooter** · 02-17-16 18:19

Originally Posted by ILoveDeams [View Original Post]

I've been seeing quiet a few providers post on BP lately that I've been wanting to see but have been put off just because of their high price of entry. I do not even know if they are worth that, or if their pictures are even real or how their service is. Sometimes I wonder if girls are just popping up thinking BP is a good place to make money quick and think this is what I'm worth and pull that number out of their arse. WTF seriously!!

Its not that I would not pay that high a price. I see Noa every now and then, but I know what exactly getting. Exceptional time!! I rather see her than risk my $$$ on an unknown new face on BP.

I have seen women on BP with high entry and they are so many rules, to the extent I spent 150 one time just on a CBJ and then trying to upsell me for FS for extra 200 by Honey. Then there was that Hawaiian Girl forget her name was again some ridiculous amount and business like approach. There are many incidents like that and it makes me wonder if these are worth it? Here are the links that I was referring to.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEs...e-now/26391920

http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEs...-sexy/25704372

Sometimes I'm thinking if 300 is the new normal I should start posting as well. LOL.

While some rates justify the service provided, there is the glut in the middle of the Raleigh market that consistently underperforms and underdelivers, yet it is both overutilized and overpaid because this same glut is the most accessible / vetted / known. Collectively, I think we can hold all of these girls to usual and customary rates that we can set in advance. We are the demand, which means we essentially control price. Problem is, we won't. Too much emotion tied to the $$; we wield it against these girls as methods of control and demonstrations of power. I'll also add that there is too much emotion tied to the product. In my previous line of work, we absolutely loved this mindset because we knew we could kill it in gross margins. Summarily, emotional shoppers lack discernment and they buy on impulse as long as they think they are getting a deal, joining the flock, or gaining exclusive positioning. This hobby is no different, unfortunately. Emotions, power and control are the primary reasons why a lot of us are out here indulging in the first place. So it's hard to ask guys to spend less and expect more in return, when the ability to spend is itself a means of social stratification between mongers, an effortless bargaining tool to control the experience with the provider, and an overall source of psychological validation. Those with more access to spending will always create conditions that lead to overpricing as the behavior is rewarded and they have no incentive to do otherwise. The simplicity of service value Is dying a slow and painful death. Watched the same thing happen in Atlanta.

**Brucea06** · 02-17-16 17:00

Originally Posted by Rmc2252 [View Original Post]

Did catch her name she was really nice probably been reviewed before she's 43 tall blonde great BJ skills nice and tight kitty damage was. 8 for hhr would repeat again she's got great skills http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEs...anion/22718799.

Looks like she has a new name, and a new number from what it used to be. She went by Bridget before. If anyone is looking for reviews on this site for her.

**Crtchadialhntr** · 02-17-16 16:47

Originally Posted by ILoveDeams [View Original Post]

http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEs...e-now/26391920

http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEs...-sexy/25704372

Sometimes I'm thinking if 300 is the new normal I should start posting as well. LOL.

You have good taste my friend! Both are young and hot, maybe just getting into this. Seem young and naive to me. They won't get many calls on BP at that rate. They will drop rates or drop out. As far as rates though, if you don't ask for it you don't know if people will pay it. But I would never chance it with no reviews. Fatlever? Your balls are obviously bigger than mine.

Re: Honey, glad I didn't see her. She was on my list before your review. Hawaiian girl too. Both of them were here for a little while and moved on. Seems like they had a sort of upcharge scam that only works if.

You keep moving from town to town. Which explains why neither is here now.

**SkeetShooter** · 02-17-16 15:36

Saw Katie just now. She's sharing a room with another provider on Capitol (the one who has been on her last week here for like 3 weeks). Ran across a handler on the way in but He made an effort to keep his distance. 2 call system. She is the girl in the pics. Actually has a nicer ass than her pics suggest. Says she's new but I don't buy that; her number googled back a different provider back in November. Anyway. BBBJCIM with spit for. 75. She also said she normally doesn't offer BBBJCIM so YMMV (I don't believe that either). Had to give instructions to add some pressure to make sure my Spartan got proper treatment, and overall I've had some more lively experiences with other providers. But I will return because she has offered me Greek on the next visit and that ass looked like it was ready for a Trojan invasion. While I normally reserve my exploits for BBBJ, I'll likely make the exception during my next round when I have more than the customary 15 minutes to spare.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEs...-pics/25152456