Tips, Tricks, Arguing, and Bullshit

**Member #5083** · 01-18-16 19:52

Originally Posted by Digger47 [View Original Post]

The point of what I was getting at is that there is NO pussy, blowjob or anal that is worth $100 - $300 PER HOUR. Your dentist, lawyer or even doctor does not command that amount of hourly compensation. The mongers have created this monster of these girls thinking their vaginas are gold plated. Now it's up to the same mongers to bring these women back to the "real world". You can continue to rationalize why you will pay that amount but in reality, it does not make any sense at all.

It's worth that much to me. I was able to get laid by much better looking girls when I was a lot younger for free than what I am paying for today, but am realistic that I can't get the same quality today without paying for it. My standards are the same as they were in my 20's. I always use the strip club analogy when making a pricing decision. You can easily spend 100-150 in a strip club and wind up just getting some fully clothed, crotch grinding with minimal touching. Which doesn't include the cover charge and inflated drink prices. That is definitely not a good value and I think the saps who pay those prices don't know what the alternatives are. However, with the risk of offending some mongers out there, the girls we are screwing are not that hot, therefore, I would say that the going rate for anyone CURRENTLY or PREVIOUSLY advertising on BP in CBus, the rates should be 60-80 QV, 100-140 HHr and 180-200 Hr. Our sex drive defies logical thinking.

**Mister216** · 01-18-16 19:05

Originally Posted by Digger47 [View Original Post]

The point of what I was getting at is that there is NO pussy, blowjob or anal that is worth $100 - $300 PER HOUR. Your dentist, lawyer or even doctor does not command that amount of hourly compensation. The mongers have created this monster of these girls thinking their vaginas are gold plated. Now it's up to the same mongers to bring these women back to the "real world". You can continue to rationalize why you will pay that amount but in reality, it does not make any sense at all.

If 100 is too much? What is a fair rate for qs / hhr / hr, how much you is fair to you. Or should they just be free?

**Member #5083** · 01-18-16 18:43

Originally Posted by Peanut7714 [View Original Post]

Mostly these girls have gotten bad legal advice from someone in the hood, or jail and some think they know the law. By saying donation they think they can't be arrested for prostitution. Wrong! They think if they put in their ads NO LE they can't be arrested. Wrong again. A cop can straight lie to you and say he isn't a cop. It's not entrapment.

Entrapment would be if a vice cop walks to into Subway. Never met the female worker. Doesn't know her at all. He straight say's to her. You look hot. I'll give you 500 dollars for some head. She thinks about it for a minute. Then she agrees. Then she gets arrested. This isn't something she would normally do or ever do.

Someone who knows better, tell me if I'm wrong, but I believe there are some basic LE checks a girl can go through to ensure safety from getting busted. Are you telling me if a provider asks a LE customer to get naked, and then touch and fondle her breasts or grab her kitty that LE will comply, just to get the arrest? There is no way in hell that if the case goes to trial LE is going to subject himself to that kind of testimony and embarrassment. LE is not going to subject testify to that kind of exposure for a misdemeanor, even if they can create doubt as to the veracity of the defendant. My advice as a novice, is for these girls to show up at their hearing date and ask for a jury trial since it's not costing them anything because they will have a free, taxpayer, court appointed attorney.

**Digger47** · 01-18-16 15:28

Originally Posted by Mister216 [View Original Post]

A movie, $20-$30. Lunch or dinner, $25-$50. Drinks, 420 or any other "habit", $10-$20. And then even after all that spending, it is still iffy if you're going to get some pussy. Let alone some head or anal. If your "date" does give up the goods now you must answer her phone calls, questions, and deal with her emotions. So for one date you've spent $75-$150 and bought an headache as well. I don't mind paying decent money for good providers, but that's just me.

The point of what I was getting at is that there is NO pussy, blowjob or anal that is worth $100 - $300 PER HOUR. Your dentist, lawyer or even doctor does not command that amount of hourly compensation. The mongers have created this monster of these girls thinking their vaginas are gold plated. Now it's up to the same mongers to bring these women back to the "real world". You can continue to rationalize why you will pay that amount but in reality, it does not make any sense at all.

**Member #5083** · 01-18-16 15:27

Originally Posted by YAskWhy [View Original Post]

95% of the reviews on this site and others are on Caucasian ladies. 95% of conversation on this site is about Caucasian ladies. A lot of the AA ads are fakes. There are a whole lot of white guys seeing black chicks but they never report it. There are a fair share of AA providers who only see white clients. What does it all mean, not a hell of a whole lot. We need to take lessons from the other boards across the country like in Atlanta and just share data and weed out the rip off artists, racists and prejudicial people. One final useless point, AA providers typically sell out for economic reasons. Caucasian providers are usually tripping out on H or pain meds. Ok, I lied, one other point. We also noticed a while back when asked who was on the greek list in CBUS, you only listed 2 AA providers and no one else. Maybe because he was a rookie on the board asking for intel which is a no no. Maybe because you didn't want to share Caucasian providers who will all know travel to Greece every day. We need to just break down solid providers and stop focusing on color or ethnicity. Ass is ass. Mongering is mongering.

I don't remember posting what you said about me referring to AA girls who do Greek, but I won't argue with you if you said it was me. If I did, I wasn't speaking from experience because I don't do Greek. So the 2 AA girls I recommended probably was from intel I received, not because I was keeping the white girls who do Greek to myself. I probably thought they were attractive too. Anyway, since you brought up Greece, I did another survey using the search option on the other review site and found 37 girls who will do Greek, BTW, 6 were AA. I only looked at the year 2015. I was surprised there are that many. Contrary to what you say, I think a girl's ethnicity is a factor in mongering just like hair color, body type, height, weight, age and other physical characteristics. The last AA girl I saw was Nikki J, about 3 yrs ago for a HJ only. However, Nikki J's body type and facial features are pretty much the same as the other girls I see from different ethnic groups. You are right, many of the AA ads are fake, as in fake pics, but the person who answer's the door is likely going to be AA, so I think the ethnicity of the girl in the BP ads are reliable as to which group she belongs to.

**Peanut7714** · 01-18-16 13:58

Originally Posted by JustHereNow [View Original Post]

So I figured this was the right place to post this, if not then I will face the consequences.

I have been doing some thinking, why is it these girls call what we pay them a donation? When I think donation, I think it an amount I give based on what I feel XX is worth. In this case, these girls set their rate and to me that makes it a fee. Does it make them feel better about themselves? Does it make them not feel like a prostitute? Do they feel it makes what they are doing a legal activity because they are not being paid for a service but given a donation for their time? I just thought I would open the door to some discussion.

Mostly these girls have gotten bad legal advice from someone in the hood, or jail and some think they know the law. By saying donation they think they can't be arrested for prostitution. Wrong! They think if they put in their ads NO LE they can't be arrested. Wrong again. A cop can straight lie to you and say he isn't a cop. It's not entrapment.

Entrapment would be if a vice cop walks to into Subway. Never met the female worker. Doesn't know her at all. He straight say's to her. You look hot. I'll give you 500 dollars for some head. She thinks about it for a minute. Then she agrees. Then she gets arrested. This isn't something she would normally do or ever do.

**YAskWhy** · 01-18-16 11:41

Originally Posted by Josh88 [View Original Post]

I looked at 100 consecutive, unduplicated, local BP ads and found the following breakdown:

Caucasian Providers 57% (percentage of US population-63%.

AA Providers 45% (percentage of US population-13%.

Asian Providers 8% (percentage of US population-6%.

Hispanic Providers 1% (percentage of US population -17%.

95% of the reviews on this site and others are on Caucasian ladies. 95% of conversation on this site is about Caucasian ladies. A lot of the AA ads are fakes. There are a whole lot of white guys seeing black chicks but they never report it. There are a fair share of AA providers who only see white clients. What does it all mean, not a hell of a whole lot. We need to take lessons from the other boards across the country like in Atlanta and just share data and weed out the rip off artists, racists and prejudicial people. One final useless point, AA providers typically sell out for economic reasons. Caucasian providers are usually tripping out on H or pain meds. Ok, I lied, one other point. We also noticed a while back when asked who was on the greek list in CBUS, you only listed 2 AA providers and no one else. Maybe because he was a rookie on the board asking for intel which is a no no. Maybe because you didn't want to share Caucasian providers who will all know travel to Greece every day. We need to just break down solid providers and stop focusing on color or ethnicity. Ass is ass. Mongering is mongering.

**BBteague** · 01-18-16 00:33

Originally Posted by Mister216 [View Original Post]

A movie, $20-$30. Lunch or dinner, $25-$50. Drinks, 420 or any other "habit", $10-$20. And then even after all that spending, it is still iffy if you're going to get some pussy. Let alone some head or anal. If your "date" does give up the goods now you must answer her phone calls, questions, and deal with her emotions. So for one date you've spent $75-$150 and bought an headache as well. I don't mind paying decent money for good providers, but that's just me.

After being in a very long term relationship that ended abruptly, dipping my toe into this hobby has been somewhat freeing. I'm still freaked out more often than not, but being able to pay once in awhile with minimal concerns for attachment makes the prices I have found here easy to swallow.

**Mister216** · 01-17-16 18:36

Originally Posted by Digger47 [View Original Post]

After reading many of the postings on here talking about "donations" or prices being either low, high or too high, I have come to the following conclusion. All of these so called "providers" are much better marketers than most mongors are negotiators. If you are truly honest with yourself, there is no BJ or FS in this world that is worthy of a donation that is equal to a day's pay after taxes for most working men. Especially when it is only for an hour of THEIR time max! What stupid creatures we are. It's no wonder that they call us TRICKS and laugh at us. If everybody gets together and takes a "pussy holiday" and refrains from "donating" to any of these providers at all until they get more realistic about what their "mouth" or "vagina" is truly worth, they will be dropping their donations drastically. You see, they have "pharmacy bills" to pay and other bills to pay. They need us and our money MUCH MORE than we need their bullshit "gold plated" attitudes. This also holds true with the AMPs. Just a thought for everyone to consider.

A movie, $20-$30. Lunch or dinner, $25-$50. Drinks, 420 or any other "habit", $10-$20. And then even after all that spending, it is still iffy if you're going to get some pussy. Let alone some head or anal. If your "date" does give up the goods now you must answer her phone calls, questions, and deal with her emotions. So for one date you've spent $75-$150 and bought an headache as well. I don't mind paying decent money for good providers, but that's just me.

**Member #5083** · 01-17-16 16:33

Originally Posted by RockyRhodes [View Original Post]

It does seem to be useless; the individual percentages total more than 100%. Are you classifying multi-ethnic providers in more than one category?

I did it again. It was 46%.

**Member #5083** · 01-17-16 16:32

Originally Posted by RockyRhodes [View Original Post]

It does seem to be useless; the individual percentages total more than 100%. Are you classifying multi-ethnic providers in more than one category?

Sorry about that. I can't edit my posts because I'm on delay. The Caucasian count was 36.

**JonHangcok** · 01-17-16 14:21

About the only thing I took from your data is that there's probably a lot more female providers than one would think that are operating locally.

**Rocky Rhodes** · 01-17-16 14:11

Originally Posted by Josh88 [View Original Post]

I looked at 100 consecutive, unduplicated, local BP ads and found the following breakdown:

Caucasian Providers 57% (percentage of US population-63%.

AA Providers 45% (percentage of US population-13%.

Asian Providers 8% (percentage of US population-6%.

Hispanic Providers 1% (percentage of US population -17%.

It does seem to be useless; the individual percentages total more than 100%. Are you classifying multi-ethnic providers in more than one category?

**Member #5083** · 01-17-16 09:53

I looked at 100 consecutive, unduplicated, local BP ads and found the following breakdown:

Caucasian Providers – 57% (percentage of US population-63%.

AA Providers – 45% (percentage of US population-13%.

Asian Providers – 8% (percentage of US population-6%.

Hispanic Providers – 1% (percentage of US population -17%.

**Chris H** · 01-15-16 07:02

Originally Posted by Digger47 [View Original Post]

After reading many of the postings on here talking about "donations" or prices being either low, high or too high, I have come to the following conclusion. All of these so called "providers" are much better marketers than most mongors are negotiators. If you are truly honest with yourself, there is no BJ or FS in this world that is worthy of a donation that is equal to a day's pay after taxes for most working men. Especially when it is only for an hour of THEIR time max! What stupid creatures we are. It's no wonder that they call us TRICKS and laugh at us. If everybody gets together and takes a "pussy holiday" and refrains from "donating" to any of these providers at all until they get more realistic about what their "mouth" or "vagina" is truly worth, they will be dropping their donations drastically. You see, they have "pharmacy bills" to pay and other bills to pay. They need us and our money MUCH MORE than we need their bullshit "gold plated" attitudes. This also holds true with the AMPs. Just a thought for everyone to consider.

You are so right! There is no sex providers worth what we pay, and ultimately we are straight up "TRICKS".