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  1. #12621

    No trafficking

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyDangler  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone else here ever seen a single case charged?
    Not with the AMPs. IIRC there were a couple of charges AND convictions at Mexican brothels in Providence, not to mention local lowlifes pimping out 14-year-old girls and stuff like that. But the AMPs, never.

  2. #12620

    Not One Case

    I posted the following on 10/3/15 on BP thread and thought it would be useful to post again here:

    "Some of the most informative published articles in the general media supporting the idea of legalizing prostitution appear in the "Economist" weekly magazine, which can be found in most public libraries. For example, the August 2014 versions include a number of articles some of which are based on a 10-year study based on a variety of world-wide data. (see the links below for examples of two of the articles.) Rhode Island is cited in 2014 and also in an August 2015 article on this topic, for example: "When Rhode Island accidentally decriminalised prostitution in 2003—a legal loophole from 1980 was found to only criminalise the sale of sex outdoors—the state did see an increase in the amount of indoor sex work. But, according to one paper, the number of rape offenses also dropped by 31% between 2003 and 2009, when the trade was once again made illegal, while there were 39% fewer cases of female gonorrhoea. Making the purchase of sex between two consenting adults illegal is also deeply illiberal. " In my view, the paramount issue in Rhode Island is that certain local academic and select government officials are convinced that prostitution is overly represented by women who are forced to participate through human trafficking. These protagonists in turn influence a majority of elected state government officials as well as the regional media, that in turn "forces" the municipal and state police to take action of the type we have seen in the past year or so. The kind of information provided by the "Economist" or relevant articles from other sources seems not to have had an impact on these folks if indeed they are aware of the presented arguments. ".

    http://www.economist.com/news/leader...ts-should-stop

    http://www.economist.com/news/briefi...226b1e574f5cc1

    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyButTrue  [View Original Post]
    Nope. Not one. You are absolutely right. This all started with Donna Hughes. The so called "professor" who did a study that alleged rampant sexual trafficking and forced sexual labor. I read her work and it was ridiculous. She took one or two extremely anecdotal cases and said it applied to all. In fact she did not even speak to any of the spa girls, did not try to see what was really going on and in one case, she completely lied when claiming that a few of the spas were "related" and had the same owner. Which was untrue. I suspect maybe she caught her husband or SO at one of these places and decided to take them all down with her BS. I am shocked that a college would keep her hired with the shoddy research and ridiculous unproven claims and assertions. The problem is she was never called out or challenged on it. So all of us are to blame as well. If nobody speaks up then the moron spouting nonsense will be the person everyone believes. I hope someone someday calls her out on her unprofessional and shoddy research methods. Maybe it will be me.

  3. #12619
    Quote Originally Posted by TsLover42  [View Original Post]
    Now I'll really give it a try.
    I wouldn't call my report a recommendation, like I said online reviews were consistently mediocre or outright bad a year after I visited. Plus taht was just one visit, I gues if you are pretty close it's worth stopping by to see how it is, but no way I wouldn drive over two hours based on one report that's several years old.

  4. #12618

    I don't keep secrets Always go back to "basics" for Intel

    With less opportunity in RI this has led to most of us with less field reports. I do not even log in like I used to before the decline of the Roman Empire.

    "Regular members" that don't know me stop emailing with "do you know this lady?

    I can understand with less opportunity. If I saw someone recently I promise I will post.

    You have to use your experience and judgment to dabble into other areas of opportunity with less AMP selection.

    Google phone numbers, tinyeye, google images, RTF and also check TER.

    If your info is still unsure after going through these progressions maybe you defer until there is enough Intel to make a decision to TOFT.

  5. #12617

    Fe

    It's been a long while, but finally made a visit to East St. Hostess was "CeCe". Said it was her first day there. Service was adequate but very mechanical, non-GFE and generic. Standard rates and service, about 50 minutes, and will not be in a hurry to return, and will not lament the eventual demise.

  6. #12616

    Not one case

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyDangler  [View Original Post]
    Actually, in the case of the AMPs, I can't find where a single charge of human trafficking was ever even levied, even though it was so strongly alleged in news stories, testimony before legislative bodies and the like. Has anyone else here ever seen a single case charged?
    Nope. Not one. You are absolutely right. This all started with Donna Hughes. The so called "professor" who did a study that alleged rampant sexual trafficking and forced sexual labor. I read her work and it was ridiculous. She took one or two extremely anecdotal cases and said it applied to all. In fact she did not even speak to any of the spa girls, did not try to see what was really going on and in one case, she completely lied when claiming that a few of the spas were "related" and had the same owner. Which was untrue. I suspect maybe she caught her husband or SO at one of these places and decided to take them all down with her BS. I am shocked that a college would keep her hired with the shoddy research and ridiculous unproven claims and assertions. The problem is she was never called out or challenged on it. So all of us are to blame as well. If nobody speaks up then the moron spouting nonsense will be the person everyone believes. I hope someone someday calls her out on her unprofessional and shoddy research methods. Maybe it will be me.

  7. #12615
    Quote Originally Posted by ReiHaragoma  [View Original Post]
    Never mind that not one single instance of human trafficking was proved; never mind that the women that worked in the various establishments did so of their own free will, and really, really decided to do it as a way to make a tremendous amount of money for very little effort on their part
    Actually, in the case of the AMPs, I can't find where a single charge of human trafficking was ever even levied, even though it was so strongly alleged in news stories, testimony before legislative bodies and the like. Has anyone else here ever seen a single case charged?

  8. #12614

    Lisa at FE

    I saw Lisa at FE last week. She is older than most of the recent string of FE cuties seemed to be. On the AMP girl scale from One to 1021, she is about a 1015. But like the ladies of 1021, what she lacks in youth she makes up for in customer service.

    TS was the best I've had, except for one time at OS when the girl jumped on the table with me. Lisa took her time and put her soapy hands to work in all the right ways. Massage, however, was minimal and totally unskilled. She pushed and rubbed kind of randomly for a few minutes, then started an extended tease. Tease was so long, in fact, that I was getting bored and little Tommy was going back to sleep. I had to ask her to move along to the FS. The rest of the visit was great. I never felt rushed, and felt like we might have gone over, but she had me out at 59 minutes. Definitely a pro. Not GFE by any stretch, didn't seem turned on during the session, but was friendly and happy the whole time. Paid the usual 60/140.

  9. #12613

    Politicians of Rhode Island. You get my vote! Kudos to Pro Journal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brooksy  [View Original Post]
    So what's the current state of affairs, do I have this understod correctly?

    NMS closed / turned over to legit overpriced chain spa..

    Admiral / Lily closed.

    Japan /1021 closed.
    OneSpa closed.

    Those were the top choices, correct, 2 real spas, 2 Hand spas.

    All this correct? Just because of a new political climate / politicians?
    Good job. Politicians and do gooders! Tell ss to get a new rock to hide under.

  10. #12612
    Quote Originally Posted by ReiHaragoma  [View Original Post]
    Um. Yeah. All of those AMPs you listed are nothing more than memories. And all of the others that were around too, that you didn't list. Each and every one gone. Closed. Out of business.

    As to the reason, not because of the politicians, you silly man. It was because of the human trafficking that each and every one of them allowed. The women that worked there were indentured servants to the spa owners; working without hope, never to see the light of freedom again, abused, neglected and made to work in an environment that would never allow them to be free.

    So, of course, someone had to stop all of that from ruining the moral climate of the Great City.

    Never mind that not one single instance of human trafficking was proved; never mind that the women that worked in the various establishments did so of their own free will, and really, really decided to do it as a way to make a tremendous amount of money for very little effort on their part.

    No, none of this mattered. The blight on society had to be removed for the good of all.

    So, enter the politicians, and the do-gooders and tree huggers, who rose up en masse to stomp out this societal atrocity.

    Therefore, yes, it was them what done it. The politicians. Remember the word, and learn to loathe it as you go through life. And let me add, they are active all over the country. Just read some forums of other states.

    Excuse me now. I have to throw up.
    And now Admiral street is a Nail shop, there reputation with the chemcals and other working conditions are very bad.

  11. #12611

    Correctamundo!

    Quote Originally Posted by Brooksy  [View Original Post]
    So what's the current state of affairs, do I have this understod correctly?

    NMS closed / turned over to legit overpriced chain spa.

    Admiral / Lily closed.

    Japan /1021 closed.

    OneSpa closed.

    Those were the top choices, correct, 2 real spas, 2 Hand spas.

    All this correct? Just because of a new political climate / politicians?
    Um. Yeah. All of those AMPs you listed are nothing more than memories. And all of the others that were around too, that you didn't list. Each and every one gone. Closed. Out of business.

    As to the reason, not because of the politicians, you silly man. It was because of the human trafficking that each and every one of them allowed. The women that worked there were indentured servants to the spa owners; working without hope, never to see the light of freedom again, abused, neglected and made to work in an environment that would never allow them to be free.

    So, of course, someone had to stop all of that from ruining the moral climate of the Great City.

    Never mind that not one single instance of human trafficking was proved; never mind that the women that worked in the various establishments did so of their own free will, and really, really decided to do it as a way to make a tremendous amount of money for very little effort on their part.

    No, none of this mattered. The blight on society had to be removed for the good of all.

    So, enter the politicians, and the do-gooders and tree huggers, who rose up en masse to stomp out this societal atrocity.

    Therefore, yes, it was them what done it. The politicians. Remember the word, and learn to loathe it as you go through life. And let me add, they are active all over the country. Just read some forums of other states.

    Excuse me now. I have to throw up.

  12. #12610

    Current state of affairs Prov spas

    So what's the current state of affairs, do I have this understod correctly?

    NMS closed / turned over to legit overpriced chain spa.

    Admiral / Lily closed.

    Japan /1021 closed.

    OneSpa closed.

    Those were the top choices, correct, 2 real spas, 2 Hand spas.

    All this correct? Just because of a new political climate / politicians?

  13. #12609

    Used to be NMS

    Quote Originally Posted by MrMalecon  [View Original Post]
    There is a different massage place where NMS used to be but have to make the long drive up some time.
    Yeah, that would be Avalon Spa. Part of a nationwide chain; akin to Massage Envy, I suppose.

    I was by there a few weeks ago, and jotted down the telephone number on the sign.

    I've been calling once or twice a day a few times a week since then, but no answer.

    I suspect Larry is renting it out, assuming he owned the building; or if not, the landlord will want to do so, given the huge amount of $$ Larry spent renovating it; especially the downstairs.

    It may be that Avalon is waiting for proper licenses to be issued, or want to renovate.

    And as many others have said, I sorely miss NMS and the many friends I made there. I hope all of the girls are well.

  14. #12608

    Nms

    Quote Originally Posted by Newday53  [View Original Post]
    And you could smell the bleach as you walked in. Yes, very clean place. Damn shame.

    ND.
    There is a different massage place where NMS used to be but have to make the long drive up some time.

  15. #12607

    Harmony, FE still busy. Pleasant don't know see

    Work had me in Attleboro. Took a drive to FE and its lot was full.

    I took drive down street and took a drive to Benefit st.

    My pessimism departed for a brief moment. I m hoping this isn't the "last round up".

    I m guessing this is what our reports will look like now.

    Everybody must have been on the same wavelength.

    Haven't been to Harmony in an eternity. It also is a "tight" set up in terms of space / rooms.

    Mammasan gives me "Sue". Sue is attractive, nice figure and somewhat busty.

    As I got in room 2-3 minutes later about 5 other customers.

    I swear they all were waiting for someone to make the move first. I have ambivalence about.

    Full AMP syndrome. I now hear "you need wait".

    I sense a shorter visit.

    The script of the visit seems like things haven't changed.

    Sue looks "younger from the front" compared to her back view.

    I the take itty / bitty au natural every time. Like Gina long lost AMP fav from Pleasant.

    No need to report any other specifics to the visit. You.

    Should find what you need still. Got glimpses of 3 other ladies.

    And I would have been pleased with any of them from the start.

    Visit was about 50 minutes felt shorted that finish meant finished.

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