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  1. #7847

    Monica at YGND

    I was looking at BP earlier this week and saw an ad where it looked like she went on her own and is independent.

    Unfortunately I got busy with work for a few hours. Went back and the ad was no longer up. Have not seen it since.

    Can anyone confirm her independence and have any digits?

    Thanks.

  2. #7846

    YGND. Still Your Best Bet. But in flux

    Quote Originally Posted by Spoolie70  [View Original Post]
    I agree with you but the only provider I had this problem with was with Laney, who no longer works there. I mentioned this to Lake and she said she would speak with her. This could be one of the reasons she no longer works there. I've noticed a few reviews regarding Lilia giving a mechanical ending which is surprising to me. She's given me a great ending all three times I've seen her. This could be YMMV or that we all have standards of what constitutes a good ending.
    I am a HUGE fan of Lake and YGND. In general, the service works perfectly for what I need:

    Timely and reliable so that I can weave it in with my work schedule.

    Safe locations with parking that I can comfortably leave my vehicle.

    Clean, well spoken, friendly girls that deliver on what the website promises.

    Consistent easy to understand pricing and expectations for what you are going to get.

    I cannot comment on the shortened times provided, I am a pretty good judge of time and generally have enough control to last as long as I choose and hold back until I am ready. If someone starts the ending early, just means more for me. I have never left a YGND studio any earlier than I choose to leave. I don't feel that I have ever been rushed by a YGND girl.

    I think the service is in flux at this time. Lake has lost a lot of the best of her line-up, and the latest new girls do not last long. Lilia and Angel are with out a doubt the best of the best and have been around for a long time. I have my fingers crossed that they never leave.

    Angel. The perfect YGND for me, we click and she provides AMAZING service. She is not a YMMV girl, I guarantee you will love her. Some have said that they thought she was cold, while I can understand this criticism, I am not sure what clients are expecting. It is a massage, she is not your girlfriend.

    Lilia. Absolutely beautiful. I can see why so many love her. She is not my cup of tea, but that is my personal issue, and not a judgement of her at all. I ruined her for myself. I like chatting, so I asked a question. "Do you get a lot of freaks? She told me Lake does a great job of blacklisting unpleasant guys, which was a great answer, but then she went on to describe other clients. It was amusing, but then she continued to make the comment, "I don't know what is up with you guys and all this butt-stuff. " It was the phrase "you guys" and the disgust in the way she said it that made me feel like she was looking at me with the same disdain as the problem clients. I am very vanilla in what I expect from them, I am happy with the main menu (I have upgraded for extras when offered), and I am very careful to have the highest level of hygiene when I arrive for my appointment. I am very fit, very clean and very much a gentleman. The thought that she lumped me in with the guys she described pushed me to decide never to see her again.

    Really miss Monica (my all time favorite) and whoever the chubby girl was off Washington. They were awesome.

    Now the criticism: The new girls for me have not been up to Lake's standards:

    I think it would be wise if Lake actually met the girls in person before she put them on roster. Speaking to the new girls, they let me know they had never actually met Lake, and I am not sure she would have hired them if she had. Both of these girls either smoked just prior or after our appointment, and both had a real white trash vibe. Sorry if that sounds racist, but that is how I would describe them. (Neither of the two girls that I draw this conclusion from are still on the roster).

    My most recent visit, the studio was on a very bad block on the South Side. There are great locations on the South Side and bad locations. If Lake had ever gone to the studio she would have never sent a client. I was worried about my car the entire time I was getting my massage. To call it a studio is a joke, it was a dilapidated, shitty flat.

    Choice of photos on the website. The photos representing Lilia and Angel are a good representation. The last 2 new girls I visited bore absolutely no resemblance to the photos on the site. I have to hammer this point. BORE NO RESEMBLENCE.

    So with the recent rotations, it is my hope that Lake puts together a new group of good options, keeps Lilia and Angel, and continues to offer what over all has been a great service for me.

  3. #7845

    Ygnd

    Quote Originally Posted by PipeFitter1956  [View Original Post]
    I think we can all agree that YGND women are all great lookers. Seen Lilia this week who actually has pretty good massage but a little mechanical when it comes to ending. I do already miss Monica, she had the best technique for ending that I ever had. Point being that I think that by scheduling every hour they get burnt out without much break between customers. This week it was 35 minutes from knock on door until leaving building. $. 25 just seems a little steep for the amount of time. Even usually leave 20 tip. Just thought maybe we should have a little discussion and see if everyone agrees or am I wrong. Just my two cents or $. 25 whichever. Maybe Lake will take suggestions to heart.

    Be careful and safe. PF1956.
    I agree with you but the only provider I had this problem with was with Laney, who no longer works there. I mentioned this to Lake and she said she would speak with her. This could be one of the reasons she no longer works there. I've noticed a few reviews regarding Lilia giving a mechanical ending which is surprising to me. She's given me a great ending all three times I've seen her. This could be YMMV or that we all have standards of what constitutes a good ending.

  4. #7844

    YGND Discussion

    I think we can all agree that YGND women are all great lookers. Seen Lilia this week who actually has pretty good massage but a little mechanical when it comes to ending. I do already miss Monica, she had the best technique for ending that I ever had. Point being that I think that by scheduling every hour they get burnt out without much break between customers. This week it was 35 minutes from knock on door until leaving building. $. 25 just seems a little steep for the amount of time. Even usually leave 20 tip. Just thought maybe we should have a little discussion and see if everyone agrees or am I wrong. Just my two cents or $. 25 whichever. Maybe Lake will take suggestions to heart.

    Be careful and safe. PF1956.

  5. #7843

    Reliable depends on the masseuse

    Quote Originally Posted by PowerPlay2  [View Original Post]
    That offer HE or BJ?
    Just like strip clubs, it is not as much about the place as it is about the girl. And the tricky part about the AMPs is that they use the same names over and over, Annie, Yoyo, Lisa, CiCi, Susan, Coco, Lucy, Cindy. Etc. Some of the owners are clever enough to know that once a masseuse starts getting lots of calls for appointment by name, they must be giving extras. Then they will send them away, or get another girl in and give her the same name. When you find one, best thing to do is to keep it off of open, search engine scanned review sites. Share info with personal or private communication. Good luck all!

  6. #7842

    Are there any reliable AMP in St. Charles

    That offer HE or BJ?

  7. #7841

    Sunshine

    I went to this place and gave them my $50 and the lady took me to the room. I thought she might do the massage, but to my surprise a really cute Chinese girl about 25 came in and started. I told her what I wanted, but it was clear she did not understand a word I was saying. She was going with trial and error and the word, OK? So out comes the phone and Translate and we have a discussion. This did no good and she got an attitude about things. The cute ones are always a problem I guess. Either that or she might have given a HE to the last guy and he did a Cheap Charlie on the tip. That always screws it up for everyone after that. In any case, the massage was not the greatest and there was nothing interesting about it. Most of these places just follow the same theme, but amazingly they all seem to be busy.

  8. #7840
    Quote Originally Posted by Observer314  [View Original Post]
    Looks like a hip, Asian chick from South City on the case for a bit before moving on.

    Anyone had experiences?:

    http://stlouis.backpage.com/Therapeu...-girl/16277315

    Calls in, none returned, so hmm.

    O314.
    I had no problem connecting with her. She works with another gal who answers the phone. I've noticed she keeps raising her price with every new ad though. PM if you want more info.

  9. #7839
    Quote Originally Posted by OldDawg  [View Original Post]
    How clean was it? I'm always a little paranoid about the table showers when the general area is not up to par, and it sounds like they are just getting stuff together. Did they have fairly private rooms?
    THeir rooms are private but the ceiling is thin so you can hear outside your room fAirly easy. When I visited the table shower was not open, but I inquired which is how I found out about the one time use bathing suit thing. They are new so I'd go get yourself a table shower before every monger rubs their balls on it.

  10. #7838

    Asian chick

    Quote Originally Posted by Observer314  [View Original Post]
    Looks like a hip, Asian chick from South City on the case for a bit before moving on.

    Anyone had experiences?:

    http://stlouis.backpage.com/Therapeu...-girl/16277315

    Calls in, none returned, so hmm.

    O314.
    Some other gal was training her when I seen her, she wasn't to keen on a happy ending.

  11. #7837

    "Cute Girl"

    Looks like a hip, Asian chick from South City on the case for a bit before moving on.

    Anyone had experiences?:

    http://stlouis.backpage.com/Therapeu...-girl/16277315

    Calls in, none returned, so hmm.

    O314.

  12. #7836

    Need some help

    I have been to a handful of places around the st chuck and chesterfield area. NO LUCK AT ALL. Multiple visits to each and large tip each time trying to bait for next visit. Can someone pm me with a good next location? Been trolling BP, but makes me nervous. Thanks.

  13. #7835
    Quote Originally Posted by BillBradsky  [View Original Post]
    No tip? That should make you popular on your next visit.
    I appreciate your sarcasm. I had money in hand ready to giver her, but never saw her. Keep up the trolling, guy.

  14. #7834

    Not bad

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsyng  [View Original Post]
    Tried her few weeks ago.

    This was my first time at BodyWorks, so I didn't know what to expect and what all was on the menu. With her I just felt like I met somebody from BP who was not trained and was here to make a quick buck. The Massage was left lot to be desired.

    She allowed me to massage her and I left happy.

    PM for more info.
    I saw her, and in my humble opinion, she's just new. I found her to be somewhat distracted, but I think the reason why is that she was just too fucking nervous. Or maybe she just didn't like me. Whatever. I think she'll get better with experience, and she was cute enough. I'll probably go see her again.

  15. #7833

    Yep

    Quote Originally Posted by BillBradsky  [View Original Post]
    No tip? That should make you popular on your next visit.
    Dude, learn from my mistake. I went to one of the rub and tug places a few years ago that has since shut down, and usually got lucky, although to say 40 was the average age there would be shaving off about ten years. Anyway, I got unbelievably lucky one day and got a gorgeous blonde girl, Asian, but implants that looked like heaven and a tight little ass. Well, she was a bit reluctant but eventually hopped on top and rode me like a fucking cowgirl. And we all know how rare that is. She stepped outside when there was a knock on the door when we were done, and she wasn't anywhere to be seen when I came out to leave, I figured they had pulled her for another client. I left a 50 buck tip on the little chair thing and left. On the way out, I saw one of the "managers" go back into the room I was in. Well, the next time I was there and asked for her, she refused to see me because "NO TIP ME! It's my fucking fault, I'm sure the manager stole it, but that little pussy was the tightest thing I've had on my dick and I never got to see her again. Just sayin'.

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