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  1. #11591

    The Law of Supply and Demand

    Quote Originally Posted by Seeker963  [View Original Post]
    Never got a pm from you, maybe you could try it again and we can continue the conversations there.

    90% msog first visit seems high to me. It's also weird that no one on this site is saying anything close that. Not even better than 50% msog on the first visit.

    I'm wondering if the system is to quick shot it in the first 60 seconds so that a msog would make sense because you have all this time left.

    Sure there are older ones that Jack hammer but as a general rule of thumb in mongering older more Experienced providers equates to better service. I think some of it out of necessity, and some of it because they are more experienced and have learned the craft.

    It's just weird to me that you've been at this for so long yet your results seem so contrary to the General experience of people on this site both in this state and others. That's why I'm hoping you can shed some light into why that is and teach the board what ever it is that you are actually doing beyond just investing more time and money.

    90% msog is such a large stat.
    Oops your right I never PMd you. I replied back to someone else regarding the same topic.

    Okay maybe more like 85 percent. It's not a exact scientific study with comparative data with a control and baseline, however I personally kept some records since oh eight. Thus 85 percent maybe more accurate.

    Here is some food for thought: in the last decade the LMT business especially CC have exponentially multiplied. Compared to a decade or so ago. There are so many Thai, Chinese and Asian LMT business. Think about this for a second, then ask yourself "how do these business expand?" Then ask yourself "why are there so many more compared to a decade ago?" Think of the basic economic principle "the law of supply and demand" hmmm. Keep in mind some have expanded beyond the vicinity of CC. Into CS, Waikiki, pearl city, Waipahu, Waikele, Mililani, Wahiwa, Kapahulu, Salt Lake, etc. There are billions of them! (billion is a hyperbole) anyway you get the point.

    Here another interesting fact; look on CL or BP. Lots of 4-hands now offered, compared to a decided ago.

    I like to share my experience however we need to protect the confidentially of the LMTs and more importantly sustain and perpetuate the MSOG HE HJ for others that are getting MSOG extra at these legit LMT establishments (that continue to exponentially grow in the neighborhood).

    All I can say is is available. MSOG HE from a cute young hot LMT! Or Four-Hand MSOG is there for everyone to enjoy but not for all to share on the internet reports. Apply the tips and hints I disclosed in my previous report a few days and few weeks ago and victory of MSOG is yours. Enjoy!

  2. #11590

    Good old days

    Quote Originally Posted by AwabiHunter  [View Original Post]
    Howzit Braddah JK.

    "Hey do you remembah the Tohei" .

    She should remember me in person, on the phone maybe not, that will be the trick to actually get an appt.

    Took lots of work with Mae to get past the HJ but I would see her so often it progressed to BJ and finally CFS, damn her pussy was so tiny and nice I was super bummed when she moved back to Thailand.

    I really likes Stacy as well but was told by both Mae and Nikki that NO WAY would she do HJ or anything, too bad cause I thought she was super sexy, loved that slutty look and thick thighs. Kay is also pretty hot in my book, I brought the girls some shrimp one time and Kay cooked for all the girls and I was invited to stay and eat sticky rice, shrimp and a bunch of other Thai food, wish I could have had a Thai Abalone buffet right in the kitchen.
    Brother Awabi,

    Wow I never got as lucky as you! Should be a piece of cake (or hopefully more than one) haha. I never met Stacy, but knowing your taste, she's prolly a nice one.

    Hope you get that appt and get it like the good old days. I trust in your experience you will get what you are looking for. Maybe bring them food again, that's a savvy way to get on the ins.

    Be safe and have fun!

    JK.

  3. #11589
    Never got a pm from you, maybe you could try it again and we can continue the conversations there.

    90% msog first visit seems high to me. It's also weird that no one on this site is saying anything close that. Not even better than 50% msog on the first visit.

    I'm wondering if the system is to quick shot it in the first 60 seconds so that a msog would make sense because you have all this time left.

    Sure there are older ones that Jack hammer but as a general rule of thumb in mongering older more Experienced providers equates to better service. I think some of it out of necessity, and some of it because they are more experienced and have learned the craft.

    It's just weird to me that you've been at this for so long yet your results seem so contrary to the General experience of people on this site both in this state and others. That's why I'm hoping you can shed some light into why that is and teach the board what ever it is that you are actually doing beyond just investing more time and money.

    90% msog is such a large stat.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrMajikLuv69  [View Original Post]
    Yes eight years total of mongering LMTs. However it did not take eight years to develop a relationship of trust with the LMT. Most of the LMTs (90 percent of the times) the MSOG HE HJ was on the very first visit. There were a hand full that took 2 or 3 visit.

    Most of the four-hand MSOG HJ HE were on the first visit too (at least 95 percent of the time), there is a method of "paired association" that I used to create the tag team of cute LMTs. I think I've shared this in PM. The "paired association" method is fairly simply and almost common sense. Therefore to summarize it did not take thousands of dollars over the total course of 8 years, because the vast majority of the MSOG HE HJ happened in the first visit.

    There is however a significant different in being "faithful" to a system that works. This is a YMMV hobby and not all moves and grooves, systems work for every dude trying to get even a single pop from an LMT, let alone a young hot cute LMT that includes MSOG. This maybe be hard to believe but the young cute LMTs actually enjoy watching a freak of nature. "Amazing!" Or "Wow!" Or "Awesome" or what ever there impression. I think the initial visits is what counts. First appearance are what really matter IMO.

    If it doesn't not happen on the first visit for me then I just move on. There are so many girls out there.

    I've had older LMTs and they were and technique jack hammer type; in fact I've had a hand full of those, but the vast majority of the younger cute LMTs are more sensual. I guess it all depends. So much factors and variables involved YMMV.

    My actually LMT mongering started about 17 years ago, however the MSOG HE were only within the last eight years.

    Hope that sheds more light on the endless possibilities!

  4. #11588

    Factors and variables over time

    Quote Originally Posted by Seeker963  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for responding. I guess what I am hearing from basically everyone else on the site is that one pop is standard for everyone. I agree that appearances and personality go a long way, but I think the most important part of your story is the investment of 8 years and thousands of dollars. I'm sure they goes a long way beyond a smile and being in shape.

    In my experience I guess I found the opposite in that old providers are more apt to give better service and multiple pops. But again that is my experience, not yours.

    I am glad tho that I cleared up the mango multiple pops issue. Maybe after 8 years ago I can expect it as standard, but before that it's one pop Jack hammer.
    Yes eight years total of mongering LMTs. However it did not take eight years to develop a relationship of trust with the LMT. Most of the LMTs (90 percent of the times) the MSOG HE HJ was on the very first visit. There were a hand full that took 2 or 3 visit.

    Most of the four-hand MSOG HJ HE were on the first visit too (at least 95 percent of the time), there is a method of "paired association" that I used to create the tag team of cute LMTs. I think I've shared this in PM. The "paired association" method is fairly simply and almost common sense. Therefore to summarize it did not take thousands of dollars over the total course of 8 years, because the vast majority of the MSOG HE HJ happened in the first visit.

    There is however a significant different in being "faithful" to a system that works. This is a YMMV hobby and not all moves and grooves, systems work for every dude trying to get even a single pop from an LMT, let alone a young hot cute LMT that includes MSOG. This maybe be hard to believe but the young cute LMTs actually enjoy watching a freak of nature. "Amazing!" Or "Wow!" Or "Awesome" or what ever there impression. I think the initial visits is what counts. First appearance are what really matter IMO.

    If it doesn't not happen on the first visit for me then I just move on. There are so many girls out there.

    I've had older LMTs and they were and technique jack hammer type; in fact I've had a hand full of those, but the vast majority of the younger cute LMTs are more sensual. I guess it all depends. So much factors and variables involved YMMV.

    My actually LMT mongering started about 17 years ago, however the MSOG HE were only within the last eight years.

    Hope that sheds more light on the endless possibilities!

  5. #11587

    Leelawadee in Wahiawa

    https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/thp/5217135871.html

    I saw this girl at Leelawadee in Wahiawa. She is good looking. Can anyone give me info on her? Thanks in advance.

  6. #11586
    Quote Originally Posted by DrMajikLuv69  [View Original Post]
    Hey thanks Seeker963.

    Just wanted to share my honest opinion. I "thought" that MSOG two and three shots were the the standard practice by all the young hot and cute LMTs I've seen. It was only my perception because it is something that I have been getting for a long time now. When I say "long time", I mean some LMTs over 8 years. I thought that because I was getting MSOG that it must be the standard practice and that every Tom Dick and Harry was getting it too. I think the girls especially the younger hot LMTs are intrigued with a dude that can MSOG 2 or 3 times in 60 minutes. Lots of Love.

    Note: some are no longer in the LMT MSOG HE practice because they've move out of state. Some come and go. When they come back to the 808, they text me or the mama text me.

    However I just want to make it clear that there are some LMTs that you shared in a previous post that are only one shot deals. What I've noticed is the older LMTs only give me one shot HE, and the younger LMTs give me MSOG 2 x or 3 x HJ HE.

    And when it's four hand it's 99 percent of the time MSOG 2 x or 3 x shot HJ HE.

    This is a YMMV type of hobby, and there are so many variables involved such as 1) physiology / looks 2) attractive physical condition 3) generosity and 4) personality. The young hot LMT are different in mentality from the AMP girl mentality, and it takes all of the variables listed above to create the perfect "mood" that the girl would get wet and horn knee enough to want to MSOG HE on a stud or at least give a one shot deal.

    Anyway thanks for understanding about keeping the LMTs identities confidential.
    Thanks for responding. I guess what I am hearing from basically everyone else on the site is that one pop is standard for everyone. I agree that appearances and personality go a long way, but I think the most important part of your story is the investment of 8 years and thousands of dollars. I'm sure they goes a long way beyond a smile and being in shape.

    In my experience I guess I found the opposite in that old providers are more apt to give better service and multiple pops. But again that is my experience, not yours.

    I am glad tho that I cleared up the mango multiple pops issue. Maybe after 8 years ago I can expect it as standard, but before that it's one pop Jack hammer.

  7. #11585
    Quote Originally Posted by AwabiHunter  [View Original Post]
    Howzit Braddahs,

    Damn I can't find a post of her anywhere, but she would charge 130.00 for a 60 minute session, she was young, I think her ad's said 23 YO and she was always posing in Bikini's on a beach, sometimes Lanikai and sometimes Waiks, very pretty, I'm thinking her name was Sabrina but I'm not sure, HMobius was PMing me about her but I had to delete some posts for room and unfortunately must have deleted that one, anyway my question is: is this girl here in the ad the same person who was doping the 130.00 massages?

    Leilani.

    http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleE...-kitty/5295061

    Awabi.
    Sorry I don't recognize her. Could be her, with makeup.

    Her hand job was quite good and that ass was kissable.

  8. #11584

    Leilani and Sabrina

    Quote Originally Posted by AwabiHunter  [View Original Post]
    Howzit Braddahs,

    Damn I can't find a post of her anywhere, but she would charge 130.00 for a 60 minute session, she was young, I think her ad's said 23 YO and she was always posing in Bikini's on a beach, sometimes Lanikai and sometimes Waiks, very pretty, I'm thinking her name was Sabrina but I'm not sure, HMobius was PMing me about her but I had to delete some posts for room and unfortunately must have deleted that one, anyway my question is: is this girl here in the ad the same person who was doping the 130.00 massages?

    Leilani.

    http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleE...-kitty/5295061

    Awabi.
    Awabi yes that is definitely the same wahine. She started out doing massages in CC but I guess she went to AMPs now, based on that ad. Saw her twice in CC, HE was ok. If anyone sample her at AMP please let us know how she performs, might be worth a visit.

  9. #11583

    Jesse

    Quote Originally Posted by HawaiiBoy  [View Original Post]
    I have never seen this person, anybody know info?

    http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/thp/5215907598.html

    HB.
    She used to work at CC but now is at 1221 Kapiolani, their has been multiple reports on her that she provides HJ while at CC, I visited her twice and had Blue balls both times, decent massage and nice tits but YMMV kinda thing.

    Awabi.

  10. #11582

    Who is this?

    I have never seen this person, anybody know info?

    http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/thp/5215907598.html

    HB.

  11. #11581

    Don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by AwabiHunter  [View Original Post]
    Howzit Braddahs,

    Damn I can't find a post of her anywhere, but she would charge 130.00 for a 60 minute session, she was young, I think her ad's said 23 YO and she was always posing in Bikini's on a beach, sometimes Lanikai and sometimes Waiks, very pretty, I'm thinking her name was Sabrina but I'm not sure, HMobius was PMing me about her but I had to delete some posts for room and unfortunately must have deleted that one, anyway my question is: is this girl here in the ad the same person who was doping the 130.00 massages?

    Leilani.

    http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleE...-kitty/5295061

    Awabi.
    Yeah the girl with the shades and hat on at lanikai. I can't find her ad but I don't think this girl is the same one. I'm pretty sure her breast were larger than the girl in the pic.

  12. #11580

    Same person?

    Howzit Braddahs,

    Damn I can't find a post of her anywhere, but she would charge 130.00 for a 60 minute session, she was young, I think her ad's said 23 YO and she was always posing in Bikini's on a beach, sometimes Lanikai and sometimes Waiks, very pretty, I'm thinking her name was Sabrina but I'm not sure, HMobius was PMing me about her but I had to delete some posts for room and unfortunately must have deleted that one, anyway my question is: is this girl here in the ad the same person who was doping the 130.00 massages?

    Leilani.

    http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleE...-kitty/5295061

    Awabi.

  13. #11579

    Hey Howzit

    Quote Originally Posted by JuniorKnight  [View Original Post]
    Brother Awabi,

    Yup hope you get her memory refreshed! I would use an old inside joke or a "do you remember the time. " kine story that will help re-break the ice.

    I do remember Mae and Mae2 worked with her. Awesomeness. Those were the days my friend!

    JK.
    Howzit Braddah JK.

    "Hey do you remembah the Tohei" .

    She should remember me in person, on the phone maybe not, that will be the trick to actually get an appt.

    Took lots of work with Mae to get past the HJ but I would see her so often it progressed to BJ and finally CFS, damn her pussy was so tiny and nice I was super bummed when she moved back to Thailand.

    I really likes Stacy as well but was told by both Mae and Nikki that NO WAY would she do HJ or anything, too bad cause I thought she was super sexy, loved that slutty look and thick thighs. Kay is also pretty hot in my book, I brought the girls some shrimp one time and Kay cooked for all the girls and I was invited to stay and eat sticky rice, shrimp and a bunch of other Thai food, wish I could have had a Thai Abalone buffet right in the kitchen.

  14. #11578

    Tundakat

    Quote Originally Posted by Tundakat  [View Original Post]
    DrMajik tried to pm you but your inbox is full.
    Aloha Tundakat, thanks for letting me know my PM box was full. I'm sorry I don't login daily; and I especially don't read all the threads everyday. I will try to at least read the threads daily. I've cleared some messages should be green and okay now. Thanks.

  15. #11577

    Nikki

    Quote Originally Posted by AwabiHunter  [View Original Post]
    Ok awesome, I will give her a call, its been along time hopefully she remembers me as I would usually see Mae but when she wasn't available I would see Nikki.
    Brother Awabi,

    Yup hope you get her memory refreshed! I would use an old inside joke or a "do you remember the time. " kine story that will help re-break the ice.

    I do remember Mae and Mae2 worked with her. Awesomeness. Those were the days my friend!

    JK.

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