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09-07-15 07:18 #2376Senior Member

Posts: 202Manassas
I will be in Manassas tomorrow night. Any information on an UTR provider in the area would be greatly appreciated!
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09-06-15 20:29 #2375Senior Member

Posts: 191FS amt
http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/as...ssage/19040045
So I know someone else reviewed her recently, but here's my review of her. The pictures are of her, I'm glad she took some better photos of herself because the ones from before looked a bit like the "crazy bite my dick off" kind of look. Her new pictures actually make her out to be a lot younger than she really is with the many layers of makeup she has on. In reality she's a lot older, I'd go as far as to say late 40's if not 50's and this is with the youthfulness look of asians (so keep that in mind). I went and visited her at the hotel, basically right next to two restaurants and a very well known wholesale warehouse in Chantilly. Basic two call system, her english was good on the phone, but as soon as I got in there her english was just bad like very bad, I might as well have communicated with cave man like hand gestures and grunts.
Anyways, she gave a very laxadasical and rubbish back massage / rub with minor teasing. On the flip it was a CBJ with some enthusiasm and after about 5 minutes then came the "I'm tired, transition to missionary and fuck me so I can leave move". She gives very comical asian porn video vocals which was kind of annoying, but atleast she was trying. She doesn't smell bad and the room was cleanly, she appears to be very nice and seems to also be looking for good clientele as after I had left she immediately texted me to come back next time etc.
To be brutally honest, I won't go back, 5 out of 10 for me, a very run of the mill standard asian BP gal. Things to note, I don't think she's independant, because when I arrived and when I was leaving she was shadowing her phone and texting with someone. If you guys do not want to take a gamble with the various fake asian picture ads that rotate and you like what you see from those pictures in the ad, by all means she's going to do her best to take care of you, she's just nothing remarkable or anything special about her.
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09-06-15 14:30 #2374Senior Member

Posts: 149I find it quite easy to find GFE with young attractive women at the 300-350 price range. There are plenty of women with great reviews at that price point on the other website. Trying to find GFE at 200 or even 250 with a young attractive woman, now that is much more difficult and it has been a struggle for me in this area. The best I can find so far are the K-girl agencies that I have mentioned in the past at the 220 for 45 minutes option. From time to time, I do find a gem on BP at a lower price but as soon as they get noticed on the other website, the price quickly moves up to the 300 or higher price range. That has happened to me a number of times. A few years ago, I meet this wonderful girl who was great in bed with BBBJ and greek advertising on BP at 150 for the hour. After a few reviews, she moved the price up to 200, then 250 and then 300 and now she charges 400 and she has no shortage of clients.
Originally Posted by JmSuttr
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Now I am always on the hunt for reasonably priced girls but with BP, it is very hit and miss and I have had my share of disappointments and money down the drain. Thus from time to time I go to the well reviewed escort at the 300 price point to get a great experience with an attractive fun lady.
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09-06-15 14:17 #2373Senior Member

Posts: 149K-Girl Agencies
The K-Girl agencies that have their websites are different from the Asian agencies that advertise on BP. They post pictures of the available girls and there are generally reviews of the girls on the other website. There are at least 4 or 5 now operating in the area and they all have the same price range: 220 for 45 and 260 for the hour, with 40 more for GFE Plus (whatever that means). Of course, over time, they disappear and new ones pop up. The girls are usually attractive and young and provide a GFE experience with BBBJ and sometimes rimming. I have never used the other type of agencies but I have read feedback that the ladies are less attractive and not GFE, more business like. Another big difference is that the K-Girl agencies with the websites all require screening before you can get an appointment. You need to go on their website and submit references.
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09-06-15 10:49 #2372Senior Member

Posts: 1982Back to the old restaurant analogy
I hadn't taken the time to look at some of your previous posts until BB's post prompted that idea. Having done so, I think it's fair to say you have very specific tastes when it comes to the hobby. While you've seen some other Asian ethnicities (Thai, Chinese) and the occasional non-Asian, you admittedly have a preference for K-girls, and therein lies the issue.
Originally Posted by Ambidextrous
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Using a restaurant analogy, it's the equivalent of developing a strong taste for a particular cuisine and then devoting your time and $ in an effort to find the best restaurants of that type. And since K-girls can be quite high maintenance and expensive maybe the best restaurant equivalent would be French haute cuisine.
So, IMHO, your quest for the quintessential K-girl GFE is analogous to a gourmand's quest for the perfect fine French meal. While it can be done, it's an expensive proposition and the best experiences are relatively rare (which only whets your appetite for more).
It takes all types to make this hobby work and everyone is entitled to their specific preferences. And likewise I congratulate you on achieving a level of affluence which allows you to drop large sums in your pursuits. But I think it's an honest assessment that you have chosen a pretty specific niche and are quite different from most hobbyists.
To continue the analogy, I enjoy fine French food as much as the next guy but I'm also happy with great pasta, a juicy steak and even an occasional burger. And one of the most important issues for me is that I want the value I receive to be commensurate with the prices I pay. In other words, don't charge me steak prices and deliver me a burger meal. Your chosen path involves searching for very specific experiences in a market with limited choices. There are simply not as many K-girls in the DMV as there are in places like NYC, SFO and LAX. And there is definitely no "street food" equivalent in this area for what you seek. I guess you could consider K-AMPs but those don't generally offer the GFE+ options you want.
What makes it easier for me than for you (IMHO), is that I have a wider array of choices. I've had some of my most sublime GFE sessions with latinas, as well as a full range of ethnicities, nationalities and colors, which increases my chances of finding GFE for less.
So, from the perspective of trying to find the perfect French meal, I can certainly understand why you feel you didn't overpay for Lee. But from the perspective of someone who is just as happy with Italian, Spanish, Soul Food, or other, you absolutely did.
BTW, Lee just raised her prices from $280 to $300, so the price of your meal has just gone up. http://washingtondc.backpage.com/Fem...views/18476244 and we'll just have to wait and see what her prices will be after she makes her big plastic surgery investment.
Good luck in your quest and hope the finances hold up because you'll need plenty of kimchi to keep going!
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09-06-15 07:28 #2371Senior Member

Posts: 94JmS and BB, your points are appreciated, but I honestly don't think I am under a halo effect. This kind of service is almost unknown in my experience. Everyone has their own propensities and what Lee and I did may not turn your crank, but to me this was an off the clock, no-holds-barred GFE; I could scarcely ask for more from a real GF. Especially at lower (BP) price points you cannot find that, at least not with young, attractive providers. (Believe me I have tried.) I think my $3. 8 was well spent.
Originally Posted by BunkerBuster
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BTW, when she got in my car she had a piece of paper with the hotel address and room number written on it. It seemed the room was already rented and I'm sure I wouldn't have had to pay for it.
Also BTW, you seem to suggest that bareback is a higher level of service a provider could offer. In my view that is reckless and I don't even want it to be on the menu with a provider.
Respectfully submitted.
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09-05-15 22:06 #2370Senior Member

Posts: 2686$380, but Greek may be an upcharge?
I concur that you're slipping under "the halo effect. ".
Originally Posted by Ambidextrous
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The "maintenance workers" in her apartment were probably 2 customers seeing other girls, so there were no available bedrooms.
When she got into your car, was she going to pay for the hotel made necessary by her situation, or was the expectation that you were going to pay for it, on top of her fee?
Looking down this page alone, I see that you're routinely spending $300+ on experiences that aren't so great, so you've put yourself into a mindset where you're putting up with K-agency nonsense, but have crossed over thinking that a good GFE is worth $400. Halfway down this page, you're out $1,000 and only had one satisfying experience.
If I'm spending four bills, I'm knowing for a fact that Greek is on the menu, and the cover is still in its original wrapper.
Why not ditch the Asian agencies for a while and try some independent traveling girls with good reviews?
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09-05-15 17:37 #2369Senior Member

Posts: 1982So you paid a total of $380?
Just confirming that the extra $ tip you mentioned = $100. If that's the case, while I'm glad you had a great time, at that price (and even at $280) a GFE should pretty much be the expected standard. The high end K-Agencies routinely offer model-quality providers at 220 (for 45 minutes) and 260-300 for a full hr and almost all of those girls score very high marks (8-10 for both looks and performance) on the oThER site. And speaking of that site, doing a search in the 240-300 price range, and using GFE parameters (BBBJ, DATY, DFK, etc.), will get you quite an impressive list of quality women who live in or visit Northern VA. The bigger challenge is finding GFE providers (and they do exist) in the less elevated price ranges.
Originally Posted by Ambidextrous
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Also, after inconveniencing you once, she very nearly did it to you again. That's because, when the maintenance workers showed up, there was no way she could have known ahead of time whether going to another location was going to work for you and she gave you no advance notice. Again, I'm glad for your sake that you came up with an alternate plan but it certainly could have turned out out differently had your place been further away or had you been on a tighter schedule. That's not a knock on her because maybe it was due to inexperience or just unforeseeable circumstances, but it's fair to point out that not every client would have been able to roll with the changes. And if you had been forced to cancel the appt for a second time, your post would have been ripping her a new one instead of praising her.
Please believe that I'm not trying to rain on your parade or downgrade your experience in any way. It's just that after many years of participating in the hobby I've often seen (and it's happened to me, too) mongers get smitten with a particular provider and engage in a kind of "halo effect". And it can happen to providers also, perhaps even more so if they are new to the biz.
So I'm posting simply to point out that the afterglow of a great session is something to absolutely enjoy but eventually gravity brings us all down from the clouds. My hope for you is that Lee doesn't become jaded with more experience and that the two of you will continue to share a special chemistry. But don't forget to keep a good balance between the little head and the big one.
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09-05-15 10:48 #2368Senior Member

Posts: 67Thanks for the review
Her reviews on the other site have been almost unbelievable but figure they have to be true due to so many of them. I've tried to schedule her recently but just missed her both times. Of course I lucked out and found Macie which had reviews just good and maybe better. But I agree with your comment about GFE. I've never had GFE like I had with Macie and from the reviews it sounded like Lee was the same.
Originally Posted by Ambidextrous
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I'm glad you had a good time. I hope Lee doesn't go overboard on surgery, some of these women already look fantastic and I would prefer natural and as they are versus all doctored up.
I'm pretty sure Lee works with a few friends that come and go and usually they tend to be pretty hot as well. Alessandra is one of those.
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09-04-15 16:20 #2367Senior Member

Posts: 94The Incall That Turned Into an Outcall
The term "GFE" is used in almost every ad, but rarely have I been able to say that a provider exemplifies the qualities I would want in a GF. Although "Lee" is not a robo-babe (but see the details below), she is the exception to that rule. She is affectionate, kind, flexible, accommodating and skilled. She not only did everything I suggested, but seemed to take genuine pleasure in doing so.
Having seen Lee's very positive reviews, 3 weeks ago I decided to see her. I set the appointment up by email and confirmed the night before; she emailed "I'll be waiting for you sweetie. " Then when I was on the way to the appointment, I texted her for the first time. She responded saying that she couldn't do it because she had another appointment, and apologized profusely; "I want to make it up to you. " I was quite miffed at the screwup, especially because the person who emailed had indicated that she was the provider, but I resisted the urge to express anger. We all know how the best laid plans can go awry in this hobby. I just said I would try again another time.
A couple of weeks later, swayed by a steady flow of good reviews, I gave it another try. I set up another appointment, this time by text, and emailed to confirm. It turns out the emails are handled by a booker, "Amy," who revealed herself this time. Why she had impersonated the provider the first time I don't know, but it was mistake in judgment that almost cost them a client. (A good one IMHO haha.).
When I texted for the appointment, Lee said she was leaving the next day for a couple of weeks, but could see me in the morning. I arrived at the appointed time and texted her. She unexpectedly replied, "I'm coming out now. " I could only speculate that she wanted to check me out first. She got into my car, we introduced ourselves, and she explained that maintenance workers had unexpectedly come to her apartment, but we could go to a nearby hotel. I said we could go to my place if she liked, no one was there and it was fairly close by. She agreed and off we went. On the way we had an open and congenial getting acquainted chat and I felt like wow, instead of the usual assembly line experience this is like a real date.
We arrived at my place, I showed her around and we went into the bedroom, effortlessly transitioning to kissing and disrobing. Lee is a K-girl, said she is 26, has nice perky A-be cups, a little extra fat around the waist and a nice butt. In short a completely acceptable GND type. The only flaw in her appearance is that her teeth are not so great. But she told me that the reason she was going away was to have plastic surgery in South America on her breasts, waist and butt! I told her honestly that I thought she didn't need any such enhancement.
Lee gave me an enthusiastic warmup BBBJ, but before she got far I stopped her so I could give her a massage. I did so and soon commenced DATO, there was enough give to penetrate a bit with my tongue, which didn't surprise me because her reviews said she does Greek for an upcharge. She seemed to enjoy it and she also allowed FITO.
I proceeded to give her more massage and DATY. Since we were at my place I suggested using a toy. She readily agreed and I combined a cylindrical vibrator with my tongue. Again she seemed to enjoy it but after about 10 minutes she didn't seem to reach a climax. Next time I'll break out the Hitachi Magic Wand.
I slipped on a cover and we did missionary position still using the vibrator. Eventually the vibrator kind of fell away and we just went at it, our bodies fit together comfortably. I had to stop myself from going over the falls and asked if we could finish with BBBJ. She readily agreed, I had a shattering climax, and afterwards we kissed and snowballed a bit, one of my favorite things to do. She didn't make a move to the bathroom to rinse until I led her in there. That is very rare and to me it was the highlight of the encounter.
She offered massage but I declined so we could chat and cuddle. She seemed entirely content and unconscious of the time and I had to eventually suggest we get dressed and go. I gave her the envelope with the $2. 8 fee in it and was only too happy to add an extra $ out of my wallet as a tip. During the drive back to her place we held hands. After I dropped her off, with mutual assurances to meet again after she comes back, I looked at the clock. Two hours had passed since I picked her up.
Lee seemed to trust me completely from the outset, showing no hesitation to get into my car, come to my house and give herself to me without limitations. I'the like to think she recognized that I am a decent guy but I couldn't help wondering if she needs to be a little more careful. She said she has only been doing this for a couple of months. Since she's making a big investment in plastic surgery I guess she is committed to it, although she said she plans to become a surgical nurse.
I know this story seems fantastical, but I swear every word of it is true. I don't think I will ever forget this experience. As I have said before.
Damn do I enjoy this hobby.
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09-03-15 21:08 #2366Senior Member

Posts: 760A little steep?
Isn't that a little steep for a K-girl? I pay 1. 6 for a C-girl operation that swaps the girl our every week to ten days. The catch here is the ages and looks vary and one week you may get an absolute stunner, then the next week get a 30 yr old with average looks. Can you PM me digits? I may give it a try. Be safe out there.
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Last edited by Great Expecta; 09-03-15 at 21:10. Reason: Spelling
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08-31-15 12:53 #2365Senior Member

Posts: 149Butterfly Legend Agency. Jane
http://www.butterflylegend.com/#!jane / ch7.
This K-girl agency is reliable and always has attractive k-girls in their 20's. Incall in Faiirfax. Website shows who is available and the pricing. 220 for 45 and 260 for the hour. Not clear what GFE Plus entails but it is an extra 40.
Jane is the typical attractive young slim K-Girl. Standard K-girl routine. I have been using K-girl agencies for a while and never disappointed. Some girls great, some girls good. Some teasing and touching in the shower. Great BBBJ. Goes deep and licks around shaft and head. Did missionary and doggy before I blew.
Enjoyable experience. Always new girls arriving and often 2-3 girls available. There is screening required before you can make an appointment. All the K-girl agencies located in NoVa, some in Fairfax, some in Annandale, some in Tysons. All require screening. Over time, they tend to come and go. Yes, screening is annoying but do it once and the next time it is very easy to make an appointment.
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08-16-15 20:07 #2364Senior Member

Posts: 55Porn stars
Checking out eros today and saw there are at least two well know adult star in the DMV area. Reading other forums on this site confirms that they might be legit too. Really considering calling them up too, I got a thing for white girls with big booties, and she has one of the best asses in the biz. If her damage is too rich for my blood, of course it won't happen, I'm not Bill Gates after all.
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08-15-15 12:50 #2363Senior Member

Posts: 67Not surprised
I've had limited experience with the agencies so have not had that happen yet. I remember your post (I'm guessing about Rachel) and it really wasn't that bad. If I recall the only negative was just expecting her to do CIM for that price point which isn't expecting a lot considering most do that at a much cheaper price point. Either way I don't think that would deter many people. I think you acknowledged she was young and attractive, maybe not as much as the pictures but pictures should be an honest reflection or they should expect that.
Originally Posted by Ambidextrous
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I have not used that service before although it was on my radar thanks to you. I'll be less likely to use them now if that is how they operate although I'm sure many operate the same way. I agree with you, they SHOULD use it as an opportunity to talk to their girls and ensure service is up to the standards they wish to provide. If they are fine with providing lower quality then they should expect to lose business until the price point drops. Usually those places prefer to get a set clientelle and run with them as it's risky to accept new customers so I find it silly to toss a proven customer to the side and risk alienating others because one of their own girls did not live up to expectations.
Sorry to hear of your experience. I think we PM'd a while back and I may have mentioned an agency or two I use but I'd be happy to discuss again if you are now looking for a new one. Most are at a much better price point also, of course most of mine are Asian and the one you visited was primarily Caucasian so it depends on your preference.
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08-15-15 07:09 #2362Senior Member

Posts: 94Pressure from bookers to quash unfavorable reviews
When a provider is disappointing it seems particularly important to post a review. If other mongers are content with what that provider offers they might well still choose to patronize that provider.
Recently I posted a review that was positive overall but concluded that the services expected in this area for the premium toll that was charged were not provided. The booker sent me an angry email telling me I was no longer welcome at that agency. Another time the booker of a K-agency asked me not to publish negative reviews because they hurt her business. She seemed not to care at all that I had wasted 3 $.
I would think that an agency would want to winnow out providers who are not up to the usual standards. But it seems they are more concerned with raking in the $ than maintaining a high level of services provided. Seems a bit short-sighted to me.
Admittedly agency managers are between a rock and a hard place in navigating the differing expectations of mongers and providers, and bless them for undertaking the job at no small risk to themselves. But they can and should talk frankly to providers about what specific services will be offered.
Have you encountered this problem? Any bookers want to weigh in?








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