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  1. #2412

    Any UTR?

    Hello fellow mongers, was wondering if? Anyone had any favorite UTR in the area they would like to share?

    Have one but she is located all the way in MD and bit of a hike, so was looking for one in the NOVA area.

  2. #2411
    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    What I would call the hobby Trifecta is 1) young; 2) hot looks; 3) GFE. While there are certainly individual variations I think it's fair to say that providers possessing those three qualities will always command a premium, no matter what their nationality or ethnicity. But what that premium is, and what prices are in general, will depend greatly on the relative supply and demand and also on the mix of new entrants into the provider pool.

    My main point about K-girls in the DMV, and perhaps I didn't make it as effectively as I could have, is primarily about the lack of supply. All high-end providers (Black, Asian, Caucasian, Latina, etc) will command a premium if they meet (or promise to meet) Trifecta standards. But groups with more relative supply and / or with more new providers entering the local hobby scene, will offer a greater variation of prices and service levels and better opportunities to find GFE for less. AFAICT, independent K-girls are quite rare in the DMV and the K-agencies import their talent from outside the area. I don't see an influx of new, lower priced, K-escorts in the way that regularly occurs with Latina, Caucasian and Black providers. I've had some great GFE finds among newer Latinas, for example, and regulars often continue to get the original rate even after prices increase for new clients.

    On the demand side of the equation, we hobbyists need to step up and take responsibility for our propensity to think with the little head and spend the kind of $ that induces providers from all over the f*cking United States (and Canada, and Central / South America) to come to the DMV to lighten our wallets in a major way! If the girls from CA, NY and elsewhere could make the same money close to home and thereby avoid incurring travel expenses, they definitely would. And it's absolutely true that they need the money more than we need the p*ssy, but we persist in acting as though they hold all the cards.

    I don't know what percentage of the hobbyists in the DMV participate in this forum but I bet we make up a pretty decent portion of regularly active mongers. So, IMHO, the best prescription is to do lots of homework, always RTFF, push back on prices (politely) when you can and think with the big head so you don't overpay.
    A lot of these hoes say "no negotiations" "gentlemen don't haggle they tip" so I just avoid them and those who don't list their fee are told it's.

    Too high over the phone when I hang up. For those who refuse to discuss fees or services except in person I also hang up and say why. The rates.

    Here are definitely getting crazy. In Atlanta earlier this year I met a provider who was a 27 yr old HS cheerleading coach (I googled her number and.

    Found her real name etc.) who was GFE DFK DATY and CIM for $200.00 and she asked if that was "ok" LOL. I told her she should travel up here.

    And get 150.00 an hr more but she said she was getting married soon and would retire LOL.

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  3. #2410
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1979

    Supply, demand and the elusive Trifecta.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ambidextrous  [View Original Post]
    Your comments are perceptive and it's true that I'm a K-girl aficionado. However I'm skeptical about the theory that K-girls command a premium. Can you get a true GFE from a young attractive provider of any race or nationality for less than $3? Based on personal experience and reading the reviews and forums, it's rare. For example I recently paid $3. 2 to see a young attractive Caucasian provider, Rachel W. (
    http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3960-Escort-Reports&p=2559548). I was surprised to learn that her menu could not by any stretch be called GFE.

    I also note an increasing number of providers advertising at the $4 - $6 price level. Not surprisingly they have excellent reviews and I am finding myself tempted to splurge on one. But for now at least I am not at the upper end of the spectrum.

    Respectfully submitted.
    What I would call the hobby Trifecta is 1) young; 2) hot looks; 3) GFE. While there are certainly individual variations I think it's fair to say that providers possessing those three qualities will always command a premium, no matter what their nationality or ethnicity. But what that premium is, and what prices are in general, will depend greatly on the relative supply and demand and also on the mix of new entrants into the provider pool.

    My main point about K-girls in the DMV, and perhaps I didn't make it as effectively as I could have, is primarily about the lack of supply. All high-end providers (Black, Asian, Caucasian, Latina, etc) will command a premium if they meet (or promise to meet) Trifecta standards. But groups with more relative supply and / or with more new providers entering the local hobby scene, will offer a greater variation of prices and service levels and better opportunities to find GFE for less. AFAICT, independent K-girls are quite rare in the DMV and the K-agencies import their talent from outside the area. I don't see an influx of new, lower priced, K-escorts in the way that regularly occurs with Latina, Caucasian and Black providers. I've had some great GFE finds among newer Latinas, for example, and regulars often continue to get the original rate even after prices increase for new clients.

    On the demand side of the equation, we hobbyists need to step up and take responsibility for our propensity to think with the little head and spend the kind of $ that induces providers from all over the f*cking United States (and Canada, and Central / South America) to come to the DMV to lighten our wallets in a major way! If the girls from CA, NY and elsewhere could make the same money close to home and thereby avoid incurring travel expenses, they definitely would. And it's absolutely true that they need the money more than we need the p*ssy, but we persist in acting as though they hold all the cards.

    I don't know what percentage of the hobbyists in the DMV participate in this forum but I bet we make up a pretty decent portion of regularly active mongers. So, IMHO, the best prescription is to do lots of homework, always RTFF, push back on prices (politely) when you can and think with the big head so you don't overpay.

  4. #2409

    Visiting NVA

    Good evening everyone.

    I will be in NVA next week for business and staying in the Leesburg area, any good provider info would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks.

    Merlin.

  5. #2408

    Thai

    Quote Originally Posted by Ambidextrous  [View Original Post]
    Your comments are perceptive and it's true that I'm a K-girl aficionado. However I'm skeptical about the theory that K-girls command a premium. Can you get a true GFE from a young attractive provider of any race or nationality for less than $3? Based on personal experience and reading the reviews and forums, it's rare. For example I recently paid $3. 2 to see a young attractive Caucasian provider, Rachel W. (
    http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3960-Escort-Reports&p=2559548). I was surprised to learn that her menu could not by any stretch be called GFE.

    I also note an increasing number of providers advertising at the $4 - $6 price level. Not surprisingly they have excellent reviews and I am finding myself tempted to splurge on one. But for now at least I am not at the upper end of the spectrum.

    Respectfully submitted.
    I do agree most of the consistent and basically guaranteed arrangements giving you a beautiful & YOUNG woman and great GFE is closer to $3 or $2. 2 for the 45 min regular option. Frankly I enjoy the regular about as much as the plus anyway.

    I did review a Thai provider recently that was $2. 0 for 30 and experience was the best I have ever had. But for an extra $. 6 you get 60 min with her instead of 30 so I pay the extra.

    The Chinese outfits 1. 3/1. 6 are just too inconsistent but if you are patient and frequent enough you do occasionally find gems. I have found a few that wanted to hang out after they got off or would make me their last appointment and then let me stay after and even play some more. But those are super super rare.

    I see the others points in that spending too much supports these ridiculous prices and pushes many of us out of those ranges. But it is your money and if you feel it's worth it then so be it. And frankly I agree on the 45 reg option for the Kgirl. I don't think I've ever left one of those disappointed but I've sure wasted some drives out to see the 1. 3 Chinese condos to turn around and walk out or stick around for a terrible performance by an average looking girl.

    Frankly I'm not sure anyone is wrong here. But I probably wouldn't have given the extra Benjamin! But I'm sure she appreciated it.

  6. #2407
    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    I hadn't taken the time to look at some of your previous posts until BB's post prompted that idea. Having done so, I think it's fair to say you have very specific tastes when it comes to the hobby. While you've seen some other Asian ethnicities (Thai, Chinese) and the occasional non-Asian, you admittedly have a preference for K-girls, and therein lies the issue.

    Using a restaurant analogy, it's the equivalent of developing a strong taste for a particular cuisine and then devoting your time and $ in an effort to find the best restaurants of that type. And since K-girls can be quite high maintenance and expensive maybe the best restaurant equivalent would be French haute cuisine.

    So, IMHO, your quest for the quintessential K-girl GFE is analogous to a gourmand's quest for the perfect fine French meal. While it can be done, it's an expensive proposition and the best experiences are relatively rare (which only whets your appetite for more).

    It takes all types to make this hobby work and everyone is entitled to their specific preferences. And likewise I congratulate you on achieving a level of affluence which allows you to drop large sums in your pursuits. But I think it's an honest assessment that you have chosen a pretty specific niche and are quite different from most hobbyists.

    To continue the analogy, I enjoy fine French food as much as the next guy but I'm also happy with great pasta, a juicy steak and even an occasional burger. And one of the most important issues for me is that I want the value I receive to be commensurate with the prices I pay. In other words, don't charge me steak prices and deliver me a burger meal. Your chosen path involves searching for very specific experiences in a market with limited choices. There are simply not as many K-girls in the DMV as there are in places like NYC, SFO and LAX. And there is definitely no "street food" equivalent in this area for what you seek. I guess you could consider K-AMPs but those don't generally offer the GFE+ options you want.

    What makes it easier for me than for you (IMHO), is that I have a wider array of choices. I've had some of my most sublime GFE sessions with latinas, as well as a full range of ethnicities, nationalities and colors, which increases my chances of finding GFE for less.

    So, from the perspective of trying to find the perfect French meal, I can certainly understand why you feel you didn't overpay for Lee. But from the perspective of someone who is just as happy with Italian, Spanish, Soul Food, or other, you absolutely did.

    BTW, Lee just raised her prices from $280 to $300, so the price of your meal has just gone up. http://washingtondc.backpage.com/Fem...views/18476244 and we'll just have to wait and see what her prices will be after she makes her big plastic surgery investment.

    Good luck in your quest and hope the finances hold up because you'll need plenty of kimchi to keep going!
    Your comments are perceptive and it's true that I'm a K-girl aficionado. However I'm skeptical about the theory that K-girls command a premium. Can you get a true GFE from a young attractive provider of any race or nationality for less than $3? Based on personal experience and reading the reviews and forums, it's rare. For example I recently paid $3. 2 to see a young attractive Caucasian provider, Rachel W. (
    http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3960-Escort-Reports&p=2559548). I was surprised to learn that her menu could not by any stretch be called GFE.

    I also note an increasing number of providers advertising at the $4 - $6 price level. Not surprisingly they have excellent reviews and I am finding myself tempted to splurge on one. But for now at least I am not at the upper end of the spectrum.

    Respectfully submitted.

  7. #2406

    Manassas

    I will be in Manassas tomorrow night. Any information on an UTR provider in the area would be greatly appreciated!

  8. #2405

    FS amt

    http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/as...ssage/19040045

    So I know someone else reviewed her recently, but here's my review of her. The pictures are of her, I'm glad she took some better photos of herself because the ones from before looked a bit like the "crazy bite my dick off" kind of look. Her new pictures actually make her out to be a lot younger than she really is with the many layers of makeup she has on. In reality she's a lot older, I'd go as far as to say late 40's if not 50's and this is with the youthfulness look of asians (so keep that in mind). I went and visited her at the hotel, basically right next to two restaurants and a very well known wholesale warehouse in Chantilly. Basic two call system, her english was good on the phone, but as soon as I got in there her english was just bad like very bad, I might as well have communicated with cave man like hand gestures and grunts.

    Anyways, she gave a very laxadasical and rubbish back massage / rub with minor teasing. On the flip it was a CBJ with some enthusiasm and after about 5 minutes then came the "I'm tired, transition to missionary and fuck me so I can leave move". She gives very comical asian porn video vocals which was kind of annoying, but atleast she was trying. She doesn't smell bad and the room was cleanly, she appears to be very nice and seems to also be looking for good clientele as after I had left she immediately texted me to come back next time etc.

    To be brutally honest, I won't go back, 5 out of 10 for me, a very run of the mill standard asian BP gal. Things to note, I don't think she's independant, because when I arrived and when I was leaving she was shadowing her phone and texting with someone. If you guys do not want to take a gamble with the various fake asian picture ads that rotate and you like what you see from those pictures in the ad, by all means she's going to do her best to take care of you, she's just nothing remarkable or anything special about her.

  9. #2404
    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    I hadn't taken the time to look at some of your previous posts until BB's post prompted that idea. Having done so, I think it's fair to say you have very specific tastes when it comes to the hobby. While you've seen some other Asian ethnicities (Thai, Chinese) and the occasional non-Asian, you admittedly have a preference for K-girls, and therein lies the issue.

    Using a restaurant analogy, it's the equivalent of developing a strong taste for a particular cuisine and then devoting your time and $ in an effort to find the best restaurants of that type. And since K-girls can be quite high maintenance and expensive maybe the best restaurant equivalent would be French haute cuisine.

    So, IMHO, your quest for the quintessential K-girl GFE is analogous to a gourmand's quest for the perfect fine French meal. While it can be done, it's an expensive proposition and the best experiences are relatively rare (which only whets your appetite for more).

    It takes all types to make this hobby work and everyone is entitled to their specific preferences. And likewise I congratulate you on achieving a level of affluence which allows you to drop large sums in your pursuits. But I think it's an honest assessment that you have chosen a pretty specific niche and are quite different from most hobbyists.

    To continue the analogy, I enjoy fine French food as much as the next guy but I'm also happy with great pasta, a juicy steak and even an occasional burger. And one of the most important issues for me is that I want the value I receive to be commensurate with the prices I pay. In other words, don't charge me steak prices and deliver me a burger meal. Your chosen path involves searching for very specific experiences in a market with limited choices. There are simply not as many K-girls in the DMV as there are in places like NYC, SFO and LAX. And there is definitely no "street food" equivalent in this area for what you seek. I guess you could consider K-AMPs but those don't generally offer the GFE+ options you want.

    What makes it easier for me than for you (IMHO), is that I have a wider array of choices. I've had some of my most sublime GFE sessions with latinas, as well as a full range of ethnicities, nationalities and colors, which increases my chances of finding GFE for less.

    So, from the perspective of trying to find the perfect French meal, I can certainly understand why you feel you didn't overpay for Lee. But from the perspective of someone who is just as happy with Italian, Spanish, Soul Food, or other, you absolutely did.

    BTW, Lee just raised her prices from $280 to $300, so the price of your meal has just gone up. http://washingtondc.backpage.com/Fem...views/18476244 and we'll just have to wait and see what her prices will be after she makes her big plastic surgery investment.

    Good luck in your quest and hope the finances hold up because you'll need plenty of kimchi to keep going!
    I find it quite easy to find GFE with young attractive women at the 300-350 price range. There are plenty of women with great reviews at that price point on the other website. Trying to find GFE at 200 or even 250 with a young attractive woman, now that is much more difficult and it has been a struggle for me in this area. The best I can find so far are the K-girl agencies that I have mentioned in the past at the 220 for 45 minutes option. From time to time, I do find a gem on BP at a lower price but as soon as they get noticed on the other website, the price quickly moves up to the 300 or higher price range. That has happened to me a number of times. A few years ago, I meet this wonderful girl who was great in bed with BBBJ and greek advertising on BP at 150 for the hour. After a few reviews, she moved the price up to 200, then 250 and then 300 and now she charges 400 and she has no shortage of clients.

    Now I am always on the hunt for reasonably priced girls but with BP, it is very hit and miss and I have had my share of disappointments and money down the drain. Thus from time to time I go to the well reviewed escort at the 300 price point to get a great experience with an attractive fun lady.

  10. #2403

    K-Girl Agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatExpecta  [View Original Post]
    Isn't that a little steep for a K-girl? I pay 1. 6 for a C-girl operation that swaps the girl our every week to ten days. The catch here is the ages and looks vary and one week you may get an absolute stunner, then the next week get a 30 yr old with average looks. Can you PM me digits? I may give it a try. Be safe out there.
    The K-Girl agencies that have their websites are different from the Asian agencies that advertise on BP. They post pictures of the available girls and there are generally reviews of the girls on the other website. There are at least 4 or 5 now operating in the area and they all have the same price range: 220 for 45 and 260 for the hour, with 40 more for GFE Plus (whatever that means). Of course, over time, they disappear and new ones pop up. The girls are usually attractive and young and provide a GFE experience with BBBJ and sometimes rimming. I have never used the other type of agencies but I have read feedback that the ladies are less attractive and not GFE, more business like. Another big difference is that the K-Girl agencies with the websites all require screening before you can get an appointment. You need to go on their website and submit references.

  11. #2402
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1979

    Back to the old restaurant analogy

    Quote Originally Posted by Ambidextrous  [View Original Post]
    JmS and BB, your points are appreciated, but I honestly don't think I am under a halo effect. This kind of service is almost unknown in my experience. Everyone has their own propensities and what Lee and I did may not turn your crank, but to me this was an off the clock, no-holds-barred GFE; I could scarcely ask for more from a real GF. Especially at lower (BP) price points you cannot find that, at least not with young, attractive providers. (Believe me I have tried.) I think my $3. 8 was well spent.

    BTW, when she got in my car she had a piece of paper with the hotel address and room number written on it. It seemed the room was already rented and I'm sure I wouldn't have had to pay for it.

    Also BTW, you seem to suggest that bareback is a higher level of service a provider could offer. In my view that is reckless and I don't even want it to be on the menu with a provider.

    Respectfully submitted.
    I hadn't taken the time to look at some of your previous posts until BB's post prompted that idea. Having done so, I think it's fair to say you have very specific tastes when it comes to the hobby. While you've seen some other Asian ethnicities (Thai, Chinese) and the occasional non-Asian, you admittedly have a preference for K-girls, and therein lies the issue.

    Using a restaurant analogy, it's the equivalent of developing a strong taste for a particular cuisine and then devoting your time and $ in an effort to find the best restaurants of that type. And since K-girls can be quite high maintenance and expensive maybe the best restaurant equivalent would be French haute cuisine.

    So, IMHO, your quest for the quintessential K-girl GFE is analogous to a gourmand's quest for the perfect fine French meal. While it can be done, it's an expensive proposition and the best experiences are relatively rare (which only whets your appetite for more).

    It takes all types to make this hobby work and everyone is entitled to their specific preferences. And likewise I congratulate you on achieving a level of affluence which allows you to drop large sums in your pursuits. But I think it's an honest assessment that you have chosen a pretty specific niche and are quite different from most hobbyists.

    To continue the analogy, I enjoy fine French food as much as the next guy but I'm also happy with great pasta, a juicy steak and even an occasional burger. And one of the most important issues for me is that I want the value I receive to be commensurate with the prices I pay. In other words, don't charge me steak prices and deliver me a burger meal. Your chosen path involves searching for very specific experiences in a market with limited choices. There are simply not as many K-girls in the DMV as there are in places like NYC, SFO and LAX. And there is definitely no "street food" equivalent in this area for what you seek. I guess you could consider K-AMPs but those don't generally offer the GFE+ options you want.

    What makes it easier for me than for you (IMHO), is that I have a wider array of choices. I've had some of my most sublime GFE sessions with latinas, as well as a full range of ethnicities, nationalities and colors, which increases my chances of finding GFE for less.

    So, from the perspective of trying to find the perfect French meal, I can certainly understand why you feel you didn't overpay for Lee. But from the perspective of someone who is just as happy with Italian, Spanish, Soul Food, or other, you absolutely did.

    BTW, Lee just raised her prices from $280 to $300, so the price of your meal has just gone up. http://washingtondc.backpage.com/Fem...views/18476244 and we'll just have to wait and see what her prices will be after she makes her big plastic surgery investment.

    Good luck in your quest and hope the finances hold up because you'll need plenty of kimchi to keep going!

  12. #2401
    Quote Originally Posted by BunkerBuster  [View Original Post]
    I concur that you're slipping under "the halo effect. ".

    The "maintenance workers" in her apartment were probably 2 customers seeing other girls, so there were no available bedrooms.

    When she got into your car, was she going to pay for the hotel made necessary by her situation, or was the expectation that you were going to pay for it, on top of her fee?

    Looking down this page alone, I see that you're routinely spending $300+ on experiences that aren't so great, so you've put yourself into a mindset where you're putting up with K-agency nonsense, but have crossed over thinking that a good GFE is worth $400. Halfway down this page, you're out $1,000 and only had one satisfying experience.

    If I'm spending four bills, I'm knowing for a fact that Greek is on the menu, and the cover is still in its original wrapper.

    Why not ditch the Asian agencies for a while and try some independent traveling girls with good reviews?
    JmS and BB, your points are appreciated, but I honestly don't think I am under a halo effect. This kind of service is almost unknown in my experience. Everyone has their own propensities and what Lee and I did may not turn your crank, but to me this was an off the clock, no-holds-barred GFE; I could scarcely ask for more from a real GF. Especially at lower (BP) price points you cannot find that, at least not with young, attractive providers. (Believe me I have tried.) I think my $3. 8 was well spent.

    BTW, when she got in my car she had a piece of paper with the hotel address and room number written on it. It seemed the room was already rented and I'm sure I wouldn't have had to pay for it.

    Also BTW, you seem to suggest that bareback is a higher level of service a provider could offer. In my view that is reckless and I don't even want it to be on the menu with a provider.

    Respectfully submitted.

  13. #2400

    $380, but Greek may be an upcharge?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ambidextrous  [View Original Post]
    and she explained that maintenance workers had unexpectedly come to her apartment, but we could go to a nearby hotel. I said we could go to my place if she liked, no one was there and it was fairly close by. She agreed and off we went. On the way we had an open and congenial getting acquainted chat and I felt like wow, instead of the usual assembly line experience this is like a real date.

    Lee gave me an enthusiastic warmup BBBJ, but before she got far I stopped her so I could give her a massage. I did so and soon commenced DATO, there was enough give to penetrate a bit with my tongue, which didn't surprise me because her reviews said she does Greek for an upcharge. She seemed to enjoy it and she also allowed FITO.

    I slipped on a cover and we did missionary position still using the vibrator. Eventually the vibrator kind of fell away and we just went at it, our bodies fit together comfortably. I had to stop myself from going over the falls and asked if we could finish with BBBJ. She readily agreed, I had a shattering climax, and afterwards we kissed and snowballed a bit, one of my favorite things to do. She didn't make a move to the bathroom to rinse until I led her in there. That is very rare and to me it was the highlight of the encounter.

    She offered massage but I declined so we could chat and cuddle. She seemed entirely content and unconscious of the time and I had to eventually suggest we get dressed and go. I gave her the envelope with the $2. 8 fee in it and was only too happy to add an extra $ out of my wallet as a tip. .
    I concur that you're slipping under "the halo effect. ".

    The "maintenance workers" in her apartment were probably 2 customers seeing other girls, so there were no available bedrooms.

    When she got into your car, was she going to pay for the hotel made necessary by her situation, or was the expectation that you were going to pay for it, on top of her fee?

    Looking down this page alone, I see that you're routinely spending $300+ on experiences that aren't so great, so you've put yourself into a mindset where you're putting up with K-agency nonsense, but have crossed over thinking that a good GFE is worth $400. Halfway down this page, you're out $1,000 and only had one satisfying experience.

    If I'm spending four bills, I'm knowing for a fact that Greek is on the menu, and the cover is still in its original wrapper.

    Why not ditch the Asian agencies for a while and try some independent traveling girls with good reviews?

  14. #2399
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1979

    So you paid a total of $380?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ambidextrous  [View Original Post]
    The term "GFE" is used in almost every ad, but rarely have I been able to say that a provider exemplifies the qualities I would want in a GF. Although "Lee" is not a robo-babe (but see the details below), she is the exception to that rule. She is affectionate, kind, flexible, accommodating and skilled. She not only did everything I suggested, but seemed to take genuine pleasure in doing so.

    Having seen Lee's very positive reviews, 3 weeks ago I decided to see her. I set the appointment up by email and confirmed the night before; she emailed "I'll be waiting for you sweetie. " Then when I was on the way to the appointment, I texted her for the first time. She responded saying that she couldn't do it because she had another appointment, and apologized profusely; "I want to make it up to you. " I was quite miffed at the screwup, especially because the person who emailed had indicated that she was the provider, but I resisted the urge to express anger. We all know how the best laid plans can go awry in this hobby. I just said I would try again another time.

    A couple of weeks later, swayed by a steady flow of good reviews, I gave it another try. I set up another appointment, this time by text, and emailed to confirm. It turns out the emails are handled by a booker, "Amy," who revealed herself this time. Why she had impersonated the provider the first time I don't know, but it was mistake in judgment that almost cost them a client. (A good one IMHO haha.).

    When I texted for the appointment, Lee said she was leaving the next day for a couple of weeks, but could see me in the morning. I arrived at the appointed time and texted her. She unexpectedly replied, "I'm coming out now. " I could only speculate that she wanted to check me out first. She got into my car, we introduced ourselves, and she explained that maintenance workers had unexpectedly come to her apartment, but we could go to a nearby hotel. I said we could go to my place if she liked, no one was there and it was fairly close by. She agreed and off we went. On the way we had an open and congenial getting acquainted chat and I felt like wow, instead of the usual assembly line experience this is like a real date.

    We arrived at my place, I showed her around and we went into the bedroom, effortlessly transitioning to kissing and disrobing. Lee is a K-girl, said she is 26, has nice perky A-be cups, a little extra fat around the waist and a nice butt. In short a completely acceptable GND type. The only flaw in her appearance is that her teeth are not so great. But she told me that the reason she was going away was to have plastic surgery in South America on her breasts, waist and butt! I told her honestly that I thought she didn't need any such enhancement.

    Lee gave me an enthusiastic warmup BBBJ, but before she got far I stopped her so I could give her a massage. I did so and soon commenced DATO, there was enough give to penetrate a bit with my tongue, which didn't surprise me because her reviews said she does Greek for an upcharge. She seemed to enjoy it and she also allowed FITO.

    I proceeded to give her more massage and DATY. Since we were at my place I suggested using a toy. She readily agreed and I combined a cylindrical vibrator with my tongue. Again she seemed to enjoy it but after about 10 minutes she didn't seem to reach a climax. Next time I'll break out the Hitachi Magic Wand.

    I slipped on a cover and we did missionary position still using the vibrator. Eventually the vibrator kind of fell away and we just went at it, our bodies fit together comfortably. I had to stop myself from going over the falls and asked if we could finish with BBBJ. She readily agreed, I had a shattering climax, and afterwards we kissed and snowballed a bit, one of my favorite things to do. She didn't make a move to the bathroom to rinse until I led her in there. That is very rare and to me it was the highlight of the encounter.

    She offered massage but I declined so we could chat and cuddle. She seemed entirely content and unconscious of the time and I had to eventually suggest we get dressed and go. I gave her the envelope with the $2. 8 fee in it and was only too happy to add an extra $ out of my wallet as a tip. During the drive back to her place we held hands. After I dropped her off, with mutual assurances to meet again after she comes back, I looked at the clock. Two hours had passed since I picked her up.

    Lee seemed to trust me completely from the outset, showing no hesitation to get into my car, come to my house and give herself to me without limitations. I'the like to think she recognized that I am a decent guy but I couldn't help wondering if she needs to be a little more careful. She said she has only been doing this for a couple of months. Since she's making a big investment in plastic surgery I guess she is committed to it, although she said she plans to become a surgical nurse.

    I know this story seems fantastical, but I swear every word of it is true. I don't think I will ever forget this experience. As I have said before.

    Damn do I enjoy this hobby.
    Just confirming that the extra $ tip you mentioned = $100. If that's the case, while I'm glad you had a great time, at that price (and even at $280) a GFE should pretty much be the expected standard. The high end K-Agencies routinely offer model-quality providers at 220 (for 45 minutes) and 260-300 for a full hr and almost all of those girls score very high marks (8-10 for both looks and performance) on the oThER site. And speaking of that site, doing a search in the 240-300 price range, and using GFE parameters (BBBJ, DATY, DFK, etc.), will get you quite an impressive list of quality women who live in or visit Northern VA. The bigger challenge is finding GFE providers (and they do exist) in the less elevated price ranges.

    Also, after inconveniencing you once, she very nearly did it to you again. That's because, when the maintenance workers showed up, there was no way she could have known ahead of time whether going to another location was going to work for you and she gave you no advance notice. Again, I'm glad for your sake that you came up with an alternate plan but it certainly could have turned out out differently had your place been further away or had you been on a tighter schedule. That's not a knock on her because maybe it was due to inexperience or just unforeseeable circumstances, but it's fair to point out that not every client would have been able to roll with the changes. And if you had been forced to cancel the appt for a second time, your post would have been ripping her a new one instead of praising her.

    Please believe that I'm not trying to rain on your parade or downgrade your experience in any way. It's just that after many years of participating in the hobby I've often seen (and it's happened to me, too) mongers get smitten with a particular provider and engage in a kind of "halo effect". And it can happen to providers also, perhaps even more so if they are new to the biz.

    So I'm posting simply to point out that the afterglow of a great session is something to absolutely enjoy but eventually gravity brings us all down from the clouds. My hope for you is that Lee doesn't become jaded with more experience and that the two of you will continue to share a special chemistry. But don't forget to keep a good balance between the little head and the big one.

  15. #2398

    Thanks for the review

    Quote Originally Posted by Ambidextrous  [View Original Post]
    The term "GFE" is used in almost every ad, but rarely have I been able to say that a provider exemplifies the qualities I would want in a GF. Although "Lee" is not a robo-babe (but see the details below), she is the exception to that rule. She is affectionate, kind, flexible, accommodating and skilled. She not only did everything I suggested, but seemed to take genuine pleasure in doing so.

    Having seen Lee's very positive reviews, 3 weeks ago I decided to see her. I set the appointment up by email and confirmed the night before; she emailed "I'll be waiting for you sweetie. " Then when I was on the way to the appointment, I texted her for the first time. She responded saying that she couldn't do it because she had another appointment, and apologized profusely; "I want to make it up to you. " I was quite miffed at the screwup, especially because the person who emailed had indicated that she was the provider, but I resisted the urge to express anger. We all know how the best laid plans can go awry in this hobby. I just said I would try again another time.

    A couple of weeks later, swayed by a steady flow of good reviews, I gave it another try. I set up another appointment, this time by text, and emailed to confirm. It turns out the emails are handled by a booker, "Amy," who revealed herself this time. Why she had impersonated the provider the first time I don't know, but it was mistake in judgment that almost cost them a client. (A good one IMHO haha.).

    When I texted for the appointment, Lee said she was leaving the next day for a couple of weeks, but could see me in the morning. I arrived at the appointed time and texted her. She unexpectedly replied, "I'm coming out now. " I could only speculate that she wanted to check me out first. She got into my car, we introduced ourselves, and she explained that maintenance workers had unexpectedly come to her apartment, but we could go to a nearby hotel. I said we could go to my place if she liked, no one was there and it was fairly close by. She agreed and off we went. On the way we had an open and congenial getting acquainted chat and I felt like wow, instead of the usual assembly line experience this is like a real date.

    We arrived at my place, I showed her around and we went into the bedroom, effortlessly transitioning to kissing and disrobing. Lee is a K-girl, said she is 26, has nice perky A-be cups, a little extra fat around the waist and a nice butt. In short a completely acceptable GND type. The only flaw in her appearance is that her teeth are not so great. But she told me that the reason she was going away was to have plastic surgery in South America on her breasts, waist and butt! I told her honestly that I thought she didn't need any such enhancement.

    Lee gave me an enthusiastic warmup BBBJ, but before she got far I stopped her so I could give her a massage. I did so and soon commenced DATO, there was enough give to penetrate a bit with my tongue, which didn't surprise me because her reviews said she does Greek for an upcharge. She seemed to enjoy it and she also allowed FITO.

    I proceeded to give her more massage and DATY. Since we were at my place I suggested using a toy. She readily agreed and I combined a cylindrical vibrator with my tongue. Again she seemed to enjoy it but after about 10 minutes she didn't seem to reach a climax. Next time I'll break out the Hitachi Magic Wand.

    I slipped on a cover and we did missionary position still using the vibrator. Eventually the vibrator kind of fell away and we just went at it, our bodies fit together comfortably. I had to stop myself from going over the falls and asked if we could finish with BBBJ. She readily agreed, I had a shattering climax, and afterwards we kissed and snowballed a bit, one of my favorite things to do. She didn't make a move to the bathroom to rinse until I led her in there. That is very rare and to me it was the highlight of the encounter.

    She offered massage but I declined so we could chat and cuddle. She seemed entirely content and unconscious of the time and I had to eventually suggest we get dressed and go. I gave her the envelope with the $2. 8 fee in it and was only too happy to add an extra $ out of my wallet as a tip. During the drive back to her place we held hands. After I dropped her off, with mutual assurances to meet again after she comes back, I looked at the clock. Two hours had passed since I picked her up.

    Lee seemed to trust me completely from the outset, showing no hesitation to get into my car, come to my house and give herself to me without limitations. I'the like to think she recognized that I am a decent guy but I couldn't help wondering if she needs to be a little more careful. She said she has only been doing this for a couple of months. Since she's making a big investment in plastic surgery I guess she is committed to it, although she said she plans to become a surgical nurse.

    I know this story seems fantastical, but I swear every word of it is true. I don't think I will ever forget this experience. As I have said before.

    Damn do I enjoy this hobby.
    Her reviews on the other site have been almost unbelievable but figure they have to be true due to so many of them. I've tried to schedule her recently but just missed her both times. Of course I lucked out and found Macie which had reviews just good and maybe better. But I agree with your comment about GFE. I've never had GFE like I had with Macie and from the reviews it sounded like Lee was the same.

    I'm glad you had a good time. I hope Lee doesn't go overboard on surgery, some of these women already look fantastic and I would prefer natural and as they are versus all doctored up.

    I'm pretty sure Lee works with a few friends that come and go and usually they tend to be pretty hot as well. Alessandra is one of those.

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