Like Beef Lolo?

[DickTracy25]

"In the words of that great American poet Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?

"I am deeply saddened by Getting Old getting the hook. He only expressed in writing the frustration many of us have experienced by the recent onslaught of bullshit meant to do nothing more than purposely agitate fellow posters. Especially when the perpetrator, as pointed out by Getting Old et al, has not kept within the purview of the page. Contrarily, this individual conveys a chronic sense of fantasy and hyperbole, and has been challenged and exposed countless times as nothing but a bullshit artist.

I have never knowingly met Getting Old in person. I do however, have enormous respect for his sage counsel and will always salute a member who calls a spade a spade, especially on a page designed to REPORT ACTIVITIES, and not embellish the exploits of a warped individual who's only plausible conquests are Susie Palm and her five sisters.

I respectfully request from the moderator, a stay of execution so to speak, and reinstatement of privileges with a one-last-time PeePee whack and stern warning not to get sucked into a pissing contest with another member, especially one who has nothing to hold on to and therefore, most likely pisses sitting down. ".

First of all, the Rodney King thread you posted on the "Korean bar report" has nothing to do with Korean Bar report, it is an individual and personal matter sort of speak. Secondly, as Admin 2 indicated the guy has been warned several times, he was given second and third chance, and still he was doing the same thing he was doing.

Don't know who you was calling " bullshit artist", if you was pointing it to me, then I have a problem with you, like, I said I don't come here to play game, but if someone try to discredit my reports, then I will fire back without a doubt.

[Punanilicr]

If you think Happy isn't recruiting, you don't know how business works. She has a lot of contacts and she has a great reputation, but that doesn't mean she just waits for girls to call her. That would be stupid. Prior to some of the recent girls, Happy's place was known as a place for older girls. That came from a popular monger here, not me. That she is drawing younger ones is the main reason I gave her such a high review as an AMP owner.

As a side note, there was a huge dog fight for girls from China between Ivy and Yoyo. It was ugly and I never posted about it out of respect for the two owners. But, now that they are out of business, some of it might get out. But not from me.

If you look closely, I said that it SEEMS as though she isn't recruiting. That is my belief, not a fact that I stated, based on the FACT that girls are contacting her. I don't know and don't pretend to know all of the ins and outs of how Happy is running her business.

Also, I'm sure that you're validation of her as an owner has made all of the Kala in her pockets that much greener, and she probably sleeps better at night knowing that you approve. Again, my belief, not stating a fact or speaking for anyone.

[Nutmaker]

Fail. If you had half a brain, you would see that I copied and pasted that criteria from a popular review site. It's not my rating criteria pea brain. It's what someone else who is in the business uses as THEIR criteria. Out of respect for the owners of this board, I didn't post the name of the site from which that criteria originated. Google it. I posted it to show that there is justification for reviews I have given supported by MANY people in this industry. I have my own criteria and I will continue to use it. I even explain it. Muni is a 7 in looks with 6 in face and 8. 5 in body. A:9 and S: 9. That is my honest opinion and its above average. Proof is I have seen her twice. Also, my honest opinion is that Yoko is a 3 as was someone else who first gave her that rating. I just concurred with it. If you don't like it, give her a higher rating as others have. If she gets a lot of 8's and 9's, then mine will look like an outlier and will be ignored. I just call things the way I see them. I am getting a surprising number of private messages from mongers who agree with me who don't want to post because they are concerned about creating waves.

It's ironic that you think I have an agenda. What exactly do you think that is? My agenda is to get fair ratings out there so that mongers who don't get a chance to see as many girls as I do get a comparative analysis that can help them choose for themselves. My reviews are biased based on my preferences. So is everyone else's. They undertand that too. For some reason, you are butt hurt that I express my opinions. Guess what? Too fucking bad. I'll keep doing it. If you don't like it, put me on ignore.

Kudos. I believe that that's the first time that I e read you saying that your ratings are based on your preferences (opinion.) Until now, you've been stating them as facts, and sticking to such beliefs. Thank You, Finally.

[Nutmaker]

Why don't you google the review criteria I posted and see where it came from, genius.

If we doubled your IQ, you'd still be in double digits.

If we doubled your IQ It would still be 0. Get over yourself.

[Goser]

I never said they didn't help, and in the example that you gave, it's very true, but when I see someone give ratings and rankings of girls faces that I totally disagree with and then point out WHY I disagree with them, that's where I have the issue. Rankings do help, but so do descriptions.

I mean, Muni, a 6, really? Wow!
And my myopic come t was more or less aimed at the fact that he was so adamant about his way is the only way, but refusing to see things objectively.

What the fuck are you talking about? I NEVER said that my way is the only way and if you read any of my reviews, I always provide descriptions and justifications for my reviews. In fact, I said specifically that EVERYONE should post their views and that would be more helpful. It's YOU who refused to provide ratings. You said rate every girl you like as a 10. This implies that a girl could look like Beetle Juice, but you would rate her looks as a 10 as long as she drove you nuts. Do you realize just how stupid that is? I find it truly rich and hypocritical that an idiot like you who is trying to rob me of my right to express my opinion about the looks of a girl without being bullied simply because you disagree with it is accusing me of doing what in fact you are actually doing. Are you that fucking stupid? You are fucking projecting YOUR actions onto me.

Yes, in my opinion, Muni's face is a 6. Given another person's posting on the subject, I'd say I wasn't alone. Keep complaining about it and you just bring more attention to that which you would like to have die. Keep posting. The most you post, the stupider you look.

It looks like your next come back will be to call me "wanker" which is the best way to raise the white flag on this message board.

[Jaritsuh]

As a side note, there was a huge dog fight for girls from China between Ivy and Yoyo. It was ugly and I never posted about it out of respect for the two owners. But, now that they are out of business, some of it might get out. But not from me.

I guess before you start saying another brother has a 2 digit I. Q. Better look in the mirror. This mama Yoyo where is she from, you in the know oh, yes all these wannabe's like HW and the rest spouting bits and pieces as if they are god's truth. Mama Ivy wanted Empire to die so those who are really in the know are silent, those that resect Mama Ivy for the level she brought to this hobby will remain silent. Those that know nothing but half truths and innuendo will keep opening their ignorant mouths, but Goser she knows who you are or does she so if she bans you or does not trust you because you have a big mouth then you know why. Mama Yoyo? I still can't recall where she is from any brothers like PM me and enlighten me?

You respect, don't make me laugh. I bet Mama Ivy is not laughing either. Even brother Rico Suarve808 had enough respect to take the thread down, that brother has class and showed the respect due Mama. Not you! What a.

[Goser]

Yoyo. Why can't I remember where she.

MAmma'd? You mean fistfight? Do tell. I love gossip. Pm me please LOL.

Yoyo was the owner of Mayflower. I was asked not to provide the details. But, Yoyo told a lot of people so you can probably get it from someone. Ivy also had her secrets she told me not to tell. I won't share those either. Sorry.

[Slide Hammer]

If you think Happy isn't recruiting, you don't know how business works. She has a lot of contacts and she has a great reputation, but that doesn't mean she just waits for girls to call her. That would be stupid. Prior to some of the recent girls, Happy's place was known as a place for older girls. That came from a popular monger here, not me. That she is drawing younger ones is the main reason I gave her such a high review as an AMP owner.

As a side note, there was a huge dog fight for girls from China between Ivy and Yoyo. It was ugly and I never posted about it out of respect for the two owners. But, now that they are out of business, some of it might get out. But not from me.

Yoyo. Why can't I remember where she.

MAmma'd? You mean fistfight? Do tell. I love gossip. Pm me please LOL.

[Goser]

Using Gosers system to rate reviews.

5- It was helpful.

4- It was just like every other review of the provider.

3- It was boring.

2- It was stupid and mean.

1- it was really stupid and mean.

This system can be used for anyone's reviews, even mine. Now, use my system or you're an idiot, no matter what you think.

You forgot one.

0- My name is Nutmaker. Forgive my posts, I suffer from oxygen deprivation because my head is so far up my ass.

[Goser]

I wouldn't say that's a myopic way to look at it. It's actually pretty logical (what Goser said). More ratings would give better insight to a provider's true value. Let's take Hapa Jasmine for an example. There's always going to be an asshole that gives her 1's across the board, but 99 other mongers gave her 9's and 10's over time. Which means there's a pretty good chance that you're going to have a good time if you see her. What I'm saying by all this is that even though all ratings are subjective, there's usually some kind of consistency or pattern that will help you gauge if she's worth the trip.

One more thing. I've written numerous reviews and forgot to post the LSA. It never fails, someone either asks me for them on the open forum or through PM. Might as well keep using the numbers if they help people.

You see, it is possible to have reasonable conversation on this message board. I completely agree with you and so do a vast number of other mongers who represent the silent majority on this board. LAS ratings are very helpful especially when coming from anyone who has seen a lot of girls and has done a lot of reviews because when that person expresses their preferences, others with similar preferences get useful information.

Nuthead and Mr Big Dick are pissed off because they think I am dissing one or more of their favorite girls. Having an opinion different than theirs isn't allowed in their world. Had I rated all of the girls at 8 or 9 in every category, they would be fine and would be welcoming me into their cabal. No thanks, I am independent. I will call it like I see it whether they like it or not. From their point of view, they think a lower than glowing number hurts their girls. Actually, the opposite is true. What happens when mongers leave out bad reviews or over inflate ratings, is mongers get surprised and therefore hurt. White knights such as these do it in the name of helping the girls, but what they are really doing is hurting the guys. Here are excerpts from private messages I got just yesterday. If anyone thinks I made this up, have admin look into my private message box to verify that they came from other mongers.

"What's up man. Thanks for telling it how it is on the looks department. I always always end up disappointed whenever I see the latest hype. I don't bother posting anymore since it will be mostly bad reviews. ".

Another monger wrote this after expressing his opinion to me on a very popular girl. Again, this was just yesterday:

"Did not want to post this for everyone to see, don't want to get involved in the Like Beef Lolo thing. ".

As anyone can plainly see, there is a group of bullys on this message board who (probably unintentionally) seek to silence posters in subtle and at times not so subtle ways when people say anything not glowing about their girls or their AMPs. They should just shut the fuck up and let people express their opinions because when everyone shares their uncensored opinion, the entire group benefits. As with anything, there are exceptions such as when a person is foul or nasty. That doesn't help. But when mongers are providing their honest opinion, these guys should let them speak.

Look at how these white knights went after the monger from Cali who gave a bad review of Lucy. He was very respectful and gave mostly glowing commentary on lots of girls. But, when his opinion turned negative or he wanted to discuss the age or ratings of the girls, out came the cabal to attack him. It's not like he was calling girls meat or cunts or using foul and misogynistic language or suggesting treating the girls like subhumans. Can you believe he had to keep justifying that he was from out of town and that he wanted to make sure that other tourists would gain from his experience? Not only was he right, but he shouldn't have had to make that caveat because even locals could gain from his experience. In fact, even his bad review of Lucy was helpful. Most of the things in the review are explainable by how busy it was and that there was a clear misunderstanding about what was most important to him. The issue of the house fee wasn't even Lucy's doing. Lucy is getting enough good reviews that mongers will understand that. I think that was a very important exchange and many guys will better understand how to handle a similar situation in the future. Fortunately, he didn't stand down to the white knight bullys.

In any event, it was a useful exercise to expose these white knights for what they are. They seek to protect their girls at all cost and will attack mongers just for providing their honest opinions if they think those opinions will in anyway get these girls less business. Most people would call that shilling. At a minimum, what this should do is make you question their reviews and / or seek alternate opinions. BTW, since I have my biases, I would recommend you understand them and also seek alternate opinion from mine. That's just prudent behavior. For those of you who had a bad experience after reading nothing but glowing remarks about a girl, now you know why. It's not just you. You just weren't fed the whole truth. This community has a much higher concentration of white knights than other communities in which I participate. It's probably due to the small, but robust market that is here and the fact that so many people know so many other people. Anyway, don't be afraid to post your true experiences because more than likely, you are not alone and someone will appreciate your contribution.

I can't wait for the next weak attack from the peanut gallery.

[Goser]

Dayum! The Professor busting out the Latin!! Big move, but even bigger points!!

I think what's funny is, Happy doesn't seem to be recruiting, rather girls are contacting her. What does THAT say? Kudos to Happy!

If you think Happy isn't recruiting, you don't know how business works. She has a lot of contacts and she has a great reputation, but that doesn't mean she just waits for girls to call her. That would be stupid. Prior to some of the recent girls, Happy's place was known as a place for older girls. That came from a popular monger here, not me. That she is drawing younger ones is the main reason I gave her such a high review as an AMP owner.

As a side note, there was a huge dog fight for girls from China between Ivy and Yoyo. It was ugly and I never posted about it out of respect for the two owners. But, now that they are out of business, some of it might get out. But not from me.

[Goser]

Using Gosers system to rate reviews.

5- It was helpful.

4- It was just like every other review of the provider.

3- It was boring.

2- It was stupid and mean.

1- it was really stupid and mean.

This system can be used for anyone's reviews, even mine. Now, use my system or you're an idiot, no matter what you think.

Why don't you google the review criteria I posted and see where it came from, genius.

If we doubled your IQ, you'd still be in double digits.

[Goser]

Not only does Goser think we should all use numerical ratings in our reviews, he thinks we should adopt his system for ratings! Anything else you think we should do? Nice of you to tell us that 6 is nice looking- after the fact! After you discouraged some guys from going to see Muni or whoever else they might have missed out on! Because, if you were honest, you would acknowledge that no one else in the world (but you) considers 6 a positive rating! I doubt your honesty after reading that you gave Muni a 6 and Yoko a 3.

As the Romans said- De gustibus non est disputandum! In matters of taste there can be no dispute! I fully agree that our opinions may differ, but there is a point, beyond which, you lose all credibility! I question your motives now, just like I have in the past when you reviewed girls on the Happiness thread only to talk about how much better this girl or that (who worked somewhere else) were.

Or like today when you posted this on the Rejuve thread-.

Happiness needs to recruit Bin, Wara, Molly, Vivian and Lux to come to her side. Actually, those 5 would make their own all star line up at any AMP.

Do you think we're all too lame to notice what you are trying to do? I'm sure Happy appreciates all the advice you've given her!

Fail. If you had half a brain, you would see that I copied and pasted that criteria from a popular review site. It's not my rating criteria pea brain. It's what someone else who is in the business uses as THEIR criteria. Out of respect for the owners of this board, I didn't post the name of the site from which that criteria originated. Google it. I posted it to show that there is justification for reviews I have given supported by MANY people in this industry. I have my own criteria and I will continue to use it. I even explain it. Muni is a 7 in looks with 6 in face and 8. 5 in body. A:9 and S: 9. That is my honest opinion and its above average. Proof is I have seen her twice. Also, my honest opinion is that Yoko is a 3 as was someone else who first gave her that rating. I just concurred with it. If you don't like it, give her a higher rating as others have. If she gets a lot of 8's and 9's, then mine will look like an outlier and will be ignored. I just call things the way I see them. I am getting a surprising number of private messages from mongers who agree with me who don't want to post because they are concerned about creating waves.

It's ironic that you think I have an agenda. What exactly do you think that is? My agenda is to get fair ratings out there so that mongers who don't get a chance to see as many girls as I do get a comparative analysis that can help them choose for themselves. My reviews are biased based on my preferences. So is everyone else's. They undertand that too. For some reason, you are butt hurt that I express my opinions. Guess what? Too fucking bad. I'll keep doing it. If you don't like it, put me on ignore.

[Uki Eater]

Can't recall where I saw this but seems to me there is some controversy regarding the safety of those machines. Could be more of a skin cancer risk than the sun. I'm not insisting such reports are true but if you are going to start using tanning salons on a regular basis at least do your own online research first. Might be some designs and brands of those machines are safer than others. Just saying.

Those tanning booths aren't any safer than the sun even though they may say it is. It still emits UV rays that can damage the skin. So, use caution the same way you do when tanning under the sun. I tried it years ago and my ears was stinging that I had to step out and cool off. This is with the high pressured stand up one.

[Nutmaker]

Not only does Goser think we should all use numerical ratings in our reviews, he thinks we should adopt his system for ratings! Anything else you think we should do? Nice of you to tell us that 6 is nice looking- after the fact! After you discouraged some guys from going to see Muni or whoever else they might have missed out on! Because, if you were honest, you would acknowledge that no one else in the world (but you) considers 6 a positive rating! I doubt your honesty after reading that you gave Muni a 6 and Yoko a 3.

As the Romans said- De gustibus non est disputandum! In matters of taste there can be no dispute! I fully agree that our opinions may differ, but there is a point, beyond which, you lose all credibility! I question your motives now, just like I have in the past when you reviewed girls on the Happiness thread only to talk about how much better this girl or that (who worked somewhere else) were.

Or like today when you posted this on the Rejuve thread-.

Happiness needs to recruit Bin, Wara, Molly, Vivian and Lux to come to her side. Actually, those 5 would make their own all star line up at any AMP.

Do you think we're all too lame to notice what you are trying to do? I'm sure Happy appreciates all the advice you've given her!

Using Gosers system to rate reviews.

5- It was helpful.

4- It was just like every other review of the provider.

3- It was boring.

2- It was stupid and mean.

1- it was really stupid and mean.

This system can be used for anyone's reviews, even mine. Now, use my system or you're an idiot, no matter what you think.