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  1. #11292
    I tend to agree with your opinion of a lot of the girls on BP. So where do you go to find "quality", "drama free" girls to spend time with?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmithwick  [View Original Post]
    You could just see higher end REPUTABLE providers so that you don't encounter any of this drama. Ever! That's what I do. Have seen 6 providers in last 5 weeks with absolutely no drama, no problems and two of them were new with no reviews but because of the way things are / were setup. I didn't have to worry.

    BP is a substantial crapshoot. Also, I have known guys to give bad info here. Meaning the time they had was probably because they were horny as hell and because they at LEAST got a nut, everything was ok, in their perspective. Maybe my standards are a little higher (even though I slum it on occasion) Bottom line is I refuse to deal with drama. Time is money and I really don't have a lot of time to be effin'g around with peoples Bullsh*t. I've said it before and I will say it over and over. Here's is the BP mentality: "wow this girl is cheap, I can risk losing 100 on a chance it MIGHT be good" Then you arrive at sh*t location, made to wait in parking lot and then wait some more because she is seeing 10-15 dudes a day and you're another shmuck in line. Waiting for that stinky cooter girl to get the guy she is with get off and pull out, just to have yet another shlong back in.

    Pace yourself. If you can spend 600 a month on twat, do it with 2 well reviewed and reputable girls not 6. You will have a much better time and if you need frequency, try beating off in between to take the edge off so you can still be ok with seeking just 2 on your monthly budget.

    I don't get why guys are STILL seeing these sh*t providers. You know they aren't any good. Here are some things to consider. If she can't speak properly on the phone, move to the next one. If she has you going to budget inn (or similar low end hotel) don't go, If you get there and feel that Something is NOT your cup of tea, LEAVE!! It can be anything from Smokey room or she's just got a weird vibe. Just leave. Got home and beat off. If you get to location and she throws rules on you. LEAVE!

    On another note, if you want to try this (I use to do this) Have two envelopes ready. One with Half of the rate and one with the remainder. If she counts it and says you are short. Show her the secondary consideration and tell her "I've been done wrong lately and I can't risk getting bad service. If you do well with no rush or drama, I'll give you the second envelope. If she doesn't want to do that. LEAVE! If you are going to cruise BP, get yourself into a habit of leaving because that's what you'll be doing with these Nobody providers. Do you homework, due diligence or whatever. Don't succumb tho these girls tricks. If you get tired of playing their games, step things up a few notches and see REAL providers with REAL ideals that know how to provide REAL service. If you are unwilling to do any of this, You deserve to be ripped off. Rant Over.

  2. #11291

    Tulip's a 7-8 in my book

    Quote Originally Posted by Moiz33  [View Original Post]
    What were Tulips looks like on a scale of 1-10?
    I've seen her a couple of times. She's tiny, but works hard. She's a no BS kinda girl and makes that clear upon first contact. Still its a good time.

  3. #11290

    Cindy From Texas (and a Phoenix AC)

    Quote Originally Posted by LakeBell  [View Original Post]
    This gal has peaked my attention. Google didn't turn up with any searches and she's been posting pretty constantly for the past week. Has anyone seen this girl?

    http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEs...-look/21976898
    Paid her a HH visit yesterday. Nice looking girl, but I wouldn't go back. No doubt pictures are her. Room in RTP was a trash heap with KFC, Taco Bell, Wendy's, McD's and pizza boxes everywhere. She had to remove a half-eaten pizza from one of two unmade beds to accommodate me. She insisted we both wash hands and use mouthwash before proceeding. No FK at all. DATY wasn't allowed. No BJ, covered or otherwise. Carefully applied excessive lubricant to herself and me before proceeding. To avoid the well-used bed I took her standing up, bent over it. At my age, with all that lube and an industrial strength condom, it took me quite some time to blow and could tell she wasn't happy about it. Don't think I got $. 20 worth before leaving, though.

  4. #11289

    Spinner

    Quote Originally Posted by HornyBaldGuy  [View Original Post]
    http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEs...creet/20635032

    Would like to pay this spinner a visit, however there doesn't seem to be a way to contact her? No reply bar on BP and no phone or email contact posted!? Anyone know how to contact her?
    Quote Originally Posted by Merge1  [View Original Post]
    Weren't there a bunch of reviews and discussions of her here recently, using the name cat?
    Kat is her other name and yes she was reviewed by Asianblue on posts #10410 & #10413 on June 13th.

  5. #11288
    Quote Originally Posted by JoeLooking  [View Original Post]
    Appears to be out of Virginia. Friend took the plunge with Nadia. He said she was better looking than the photos but it was just a strip tease and you had to pay extra for lap dances. He did say that she implied other girls may be more willing to do other things. I was a bit shocked since backpage has a stripper section and the ad specifically said escorts. I'd be curious if anyone here can confirm his experience. Either way I'll probably avoid as I know from past experience that having to negotiate sex from strippers after they've already gotten money from you can be an expensive affair.
    That sounds about right. I looked at the site and it said the rates were like 125.00 I figured that wasn't FS. It might be 125 to show up then ala carte.

  6. #11287

    Great advice for all

    Thanks to MrSmithwick for this succinct and clear approach. He's pointed out that market forces do apply here: it's a supply and demand economy, and if you don't like the supply, drop the demand until the supply improves. Well said, sir!

    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmithwick  [View Original Post]
    You could just see higher end REPUTABLE providers so that you don't encounter any of this drama. Ever! That's what I do. Have seen 6 providers in last 5 weeks with absolutely no drama, no problems and two of them were new with no reviews but because of the way things are / were setup. I didn't have to worry.

    BP is a substantial crapshoot. Also, I have known guys to give bad info here. Meaning the time they had was probably because they were horny as hell and because they at LEAST got a nut, everything was ok, in their perspective. Maybe my standards are a little higher (even though I slum it on occasion) Bottom line is I refuse to deal with drama. Time is money and I really don't have a lot of time to be effin'g around with peoples Bullsh*t. I've said it before and I will say it over and over. Here's is the BP mentality: "wow this girl is cheap, I can risk losing 100 on a chance it MIGHT be good" Then you arrive at sh*t location, made to wait in parking lot and then wait some more because she is seeing 10-15 dudes a day and you're another shmuck in line. Waiting for that stinky cooter girl to get the guy she is with get off and pull out, just to have yet another shlong back in.

    Pace yourself. If you can spend 600 a month on twat, do it with 2 well reviewed and reputable girls not 6. You will have a much better time and if you need frequency, try beating off in between to take the edge off so you can still be ok with seeking just 2 on your monthly budget.

    I don't get why guys are STILL seeing these sh*t providers. You know they aren't any good. Here are some things to consider. If she can't speak properly on the phone, move to the next one. If she has you going to budget inn (or similar low end hotel) don't go, If you get there and feel that Something is NOT your cup of tea, LEAVE!! It can be anything from Smokey room or she's just got a weird vibe. Just leave. Got home and beat off. If you get to location and she throws rules on you. LEAVE!

    On another note, if you want to try this (I use to do this) Have two envelopes ready. One with Half of the rate and one with the remainder. If she counts it and says you are short. Show her the secondary consideration and tell her "I've been done wrong lately and I can't risk getting bad service. If you do well with no rush or drama, I'll give you the second envelope. If she doesn't want to do that. LEAVE! If you are going to cruise BP, get yourself into a habit of leaving because that's what you'll be doing with these Nobody providers. Do you homework, due diligence or whatever. Don't succumb tho these girls tricks. If you get tired of playing their games, step things up a few notches and see REAL providers with REAL ideals that know how to provide REAL service. If you are unwilling to do any of this, You deserve to be ripped off. Rant Over.

  7. #11286
    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmithwick  [View Original Post]
    On another note, if you want to try this (I use to do this) Have two envelopes ready. One with Half of the rate and one with the remainder. If she counts it and says you are short. Show her the secondary consideration and tell her "I've been done wrong lately and I can't risk getting bad service. If you do well with no rush or drama, I'll give you the second envelope. If she doesn't want to do that. LEAVE!
    What if she doesn't count the money in the first envelope? Full session for half the price? .

  8. #11285

    Spinner

    Weren't there a bunch of reviews and discussions of her here recently, using the name cat?

    Quote Originally Posted by HornyBaldGuy  [View Original Post]
    http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEs...creet/20635032

    Would like to pay this spinner a visit, however there doesn't seem to be a way to contact her? No reply bar on BP and no phone or email contact posted!? Anyone know how to contact her?

  9. #11284

    Or.

    You could just see higher end REPUTABLE providers so that you don't encounter any of this drama. Ever! That's what I do. Have seen 6 providers in last 5 weeks with absolutely no drama, no problems and two of them were new with no reviews but because of the way things are / were setup. I didn't have to worry.

    BP is a substantial crapshoot. Also, I have known guys to give bad info here. Meaning the time they had was probably because they were horny as hell and because they at LEAST got a nut, everything was ok, in their perspective. Maybe my standards are a little higher (even though I slum it on occasion) Bottom line is I refuse to deal with drama. Time is money and I really don't have a lot of time to be effin'g around with peoples Bullsh*t. I've said it before and I will say it over and over. Here's is the BP mentality: "wow this girl is cheap, I can risk losing 100 on a chance it MIGHT be good" Then you arrive at sh*t location, made to wait in parking lot and then wait some more because she is seeing 10-15 dudes a day and you're another shmuck in line. Waiting for that stinky cooter girl to get the guy she is with get off and pull out, just to have yet another shlong back in.

    Pace yourself. If you can spend 600 a month on twat, do it with 2 well reviewed and reputable girls not 6. You will have a much better time and if you need frequency, try beating off in between to take the edge off so you can still be ok with seeking just 2 on your monthly budget.

    I don't get why guys are STILL seeing these sh*t providers. You know they aren't any good. Here are some things to consider. If she can't speak properly on the phone, move to the next one. If she has you going to budget inn (or similar low end hotel) don't go, If you get there and feel that Something is NOT your cup of tea, LEAVE!! It can be anything from Smokey room or she's just got a weird vibe. Just leave. Got home and beat off. If you get to location and she throws rules on you. LEAVE!

    On another note, if you want to try this (I use to do this) Have two envelopes ready. One with Half of the rate and one with the remainder. If she counts it and says you are short. Show her the secondary consideration and tell her "I've been done wrong lately and I can't risk getting bad service. If you do well with no rush or drama, I'll give you the second envelope. If she doesn't want to do that. LEAVE! If you are going to cruise BP, get yourself into a habit of leaving because that's what you'll be doing with these Nobody providers. Do you homework, due diligence or whatever. Don't succumb tho these girls tricks. If you get tired of playing their games, step things up a few notches and see REAL providers with REAL ideals that know how to provide REAL service. If you are unwilling to do any of this, You deserve to be ripped off. Rant Over.

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeLooking  [View Original Post]
    Welcome and don't worry it's happened to most guys here. Once you put the money down there's not much you can do to get it back short of being armed or grabbing it and making a run for it. If you had done an outcall and got aggressive over the money she would have known where you live or could have found out your name from the hotel staff. The best advice I can give is to use this site for reviews and to ask for recommendations. You can also prescreen providers by asking questions before handing over money and doing what many of us do and opting for less time and promising to pay more if you go over (I've rarely been asked to pay for the extra time). Most non high volume chicks are more than happy to give you the option to buy more time because they don't have a guy waiting outside. Some won't do the qv so you might have to get a hh.

    If you want to know some of the prescreening questions I ask PM me. I'm sure other guys would be willing to share with you how they screen girls as well.

    If you want some revenge you can do like PleasureSeeker and flag her ads. You can also post an ad telling people about your experience, but does she have your number? I would advise against calling the police because you might get another monger arrested and you might expose yourself. If she was in an apartment complex you can drop an anonymous letter at the clubhouse about strange foot activity and a lot of people going in and out of the apartment. If this ever happens at a hotel you can call the desk and complain about noise or the smell of marijuana from a room on your hall. Most hotels turn a blind eye to the prostitution until they get a complaint from a regular guest (you can generally make the call from a courtesy phone and you'll get bonus points of saying you have kids with you). If you really wanted to mess with her you could call one of those Christian save a ho lines and say you think a girl you met needs help (most of them care more about saving the chick than exposing you unless she's underage).

    Again, these are all lessons learned and even guys who have done this for decades can sometimes get screwed over. I'll also ad that the more you do this the better you will get at recognizing signs to walk away. For example, as soon as she said it was not her apartment and she was staying with someone else, especially a guy, I probably would have walked away.

  10. #11283

    Which one was she?

    Quote Originally Posted by Merge1  [View Original Post]
    Good job. At the first sign of trouble, just leave, and let her have the money. Then go home and let us know on the forum what happened. It's not worth arguing and possibly bringing unknown types of trouble.
    Is she not in NC anymore? Who was she?

  11. #11282
    Quote Originally Posted by HarryKrishnah  [View Original Post]
    This is her other ad with her email.

    bodiheavenlee@gmail.com
    https://plus.google.com/114538233722192348644/photos
    Thank you kind sir!

  12. #11281
    Quote Originally Posted by TerraRyzing  [View Original Post]
    I visited with http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEs...ecial/22415508 today.

    That's her in the pics. She hosted. Apartment was upscale, and a little messy, and she said it was her brother's. I bought an hour for $160 and, while she was nice, it was a distracting time.

    Pretty girl, and she did anything I asked for, and then after bending her over, her ass had as much hair as her head, and it was a total boner killer.

    Shortly after that, in the middle of our time, she got a text and said her brother was on the way home, and I had to leave ASAP. I asked for half of my money back at that, especially after my experience with Shani pulling that shit, and she said that she doesn't do that, and anything she gets she keeps, and said that I'd have to talk to a bunch of guys about it. I just chalked it off and left. Two times burned on these escorts in the area.

    Really not sure what to do in that protocol. Is it better to host myself? Get a hotel room or something? I mean, on the one hand, I could have been a hardass and demanded the money, even from her "brother" and his friends. On the other hand, if I'm in his house. I mean, I don't want to get shot. Not over $160 and a hairy piece of ass.
    Welcome and don't worry it's happened to most guys here. Once you put the money down there's not much you can do to get it back short of being armed or grabbing it and making a run for it. If you had done an outcall and got aggressive over the money she would have known where you live or could have found out your name from the hotel staff. The best advice I can give is to use this site for reviews and to ask for recommendations. You can also prescreen providers by asking questions before handing over money and doing what many of us do and opting for less time and promising to pay more if you go over (I've rarely been asked to pay for the extra time). Most non high volume chicks are more than happy to give you the option to buy more time because they don't have a guy waiting outside. Some won't do the qv so you might have to get a hh.

    If you want to know some of the prescreening questions I ask PM me. I'm sure other guys would be willing to share with you how they screen girls as well.

    If you want some revenge you can do like PleasureSeeker and flag her ads. You can also post an ad telling people about your experience, but does she have your number? I would advise against calling the police because you might get another monger arrested and you might expose yourself. If she was in an apartment complex you can drop an anonymous letter at the clubhouse about strange foot activity and a lot of people going in and out of the apartment. If this ever happens at a hotel you can call the desk and complain about noise or the smell of marijuana from a room on your hall. Most hotels turn a blind eye to the prostitution until they get a complaint from a regular guest (you can generally make the call from a courtesy phone and you'll get bonus points of saying you have kids with you). If you really wanted to mess with her you could call one of those Christian save a ho lines and say you think a girl you met needs help (most of them care more about saving the chick than exposing you unless she's underage).

    Again, these are all lessons learned and even guys who have done this for decades can sometimes get screwed over. I'll also ad that the more you do this the better you will get at recognizing signs to walk away. For example, as soon as she said it was not her apartment and she was staying with someone else, especially a guy, I probably would have walked away.

  13. #11280
    Quote Originally Posted by SerenityNow73  [View Original Post]
    At any rate, I have been lurking for a couple months, and appreciate the contributions of the members here. You seem to have a great group and I hope to add to it. Hopefully, my next report will be positive and will turn you guys on to something satisfying. Be safe, happy hunting guys.
    http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs...e-now/21570976
    Welcome to the forums. When I first saw her she was posting as Cupcake or something and working in Durham. She is a white chick and like others have mentioned she has a pretty nice body with limited signs of childbearing. There was very little in the way of a massage and IMO the hand job was more let's get this going and done than sensual. That said, if all you want is a hand job from a cute chick that speaks English then she's worth the try but don't waste time getting the hour because you won't be there that long. I'll also say that maybe her being in Cary or Apex is different but when she was in Durham it was apparent that she ran with a rough crowd. One poster said that she promised FS on subsequent visits and although I only saw her once I think that's bs. She seemed like the type willing to say whatever to get you out quick and hopefully get you to come back.

    BB211 don't be surprised if at some point I beg you for info on her mom though!

  14. #11279
    Quote Originally Posted by VurtDaFurk  [View Original Post]
    Any info on this agency? Was thinking about scheduling an appointment with either Cheyanne or Nadia. Both look pretty hot but not sure if it's legit.

    http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEs...calls/21913116
    Appears to be out of Virginia. Friend took the plunge with Nadia. He said she was better looking than the photos but it was just a strip tease and you had to pay extra for lap dances. He did say that she implied other girls may be more willing to do other things. I was a bit shocked since backpage has a stripper section and the ad specifically said escorts. I'd be curious if anyone here can confirm his experience. Either way I'll probably avoid as I know from past experience that having to negotiate sex from strippers after they've already gotten money from you can be an expensive affair.

  15. #11278
    Quote Originally Posted by PntyRdr  [View Original Post]
    In conclusion:
    I really wish these ladies would stop saying things like "Open minded", "Fetishes welcome" and "I'll do what she wont do" and take things like BBBJ and Greek off the table. This was not the first time my primary (In this case Skyla) has eluded me. Everytime I feel like I must claim a prize and not go home empty handed but everytime I end up disappointed. I've got to stop being caught in this predicament but It's hard because I'm 30 min out of town. Anyway, how do you guys keep from having to settle. Do you always schedule ahead of time or is it just the nature of the hunt. Also any anecdotes about Skyla would be greatly appreciated. Seriously, I've got to see this girl. You can PM those if you'd like.
    It irks me as well and by finding out the rules ahead of time I've saved myself a lot of cash. I remember asking a chick about a year ago what she thought fetish friendly meant and she said "playing with my feet" and "I can wear something sexy". There was a time when you could expect an escort to wear something other than sweatpants and things like BBBJ and cob were common place.

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