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  1. #7588
    Yeah, I've seen that happen here as well. All of a sudden an account that hardly posts says, "This girl was great, here's a few pics," then there's a new account from her, "HEY! Thats me, call me" I start getting PMs from the first guy really pushing to see her. Needless to say, I bow out at that point. Might be legit, might not. Most likely not.

    As a guy with tons of experience dealing with people, I don't believe in coincidences at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChetFont  [View Original Post]
    A few years ago I dropped about $800 on Anna in St. Chuck because a senior member said extras were available from her. I got zero extras. Was he shilling for the owner of the AMP? I don't know but I don't see him posting here anymore.

    Last week I got a PM from a dude who said he got DATY and FS from Anna on a couple of occasions. Good for him but I'm done with her.

    Crazy shit happens at places where you wouldn't expect it if they like you. For consistent results, go to Centreville or Litchfield, IL.

  2. #7587

    Horrific experience.

    Well. Decided to check out superspa oriental. I was tyring to figure out what was the authentic entrance since they had so many of them and I'm kind of wandering in the parking lot. An old lady is taking the trash out and waves me in. I assume that's the mamasan. So I follow her in. She says "first time?" and I say yes. I then ask if I can see whose working. She says "me and another lady. " I would have left right there but I'm a conflict avoider. She walks me through a maze of dirty corriders and sticks me in a disgusting room. I keep thinking to leave but I don't know if I can find my way out. And I'm a conflict avoider. Anyway. TS? Sure. Go through that. She keeps complimenting me and I keep trying not to look at her. Every time I looked at her she got older. Then we get back to the room and she actually gives me a decent massage. Real skills. And I think "I'll just take the massage and call it a day. " but then she starts teasing and I responded so she said "what do you want" and I said "I only have $40". So she says "that's fine" turns me over and starts working down there. I keep trying not to look. But when I do I notice that she's actually posing with her mouth about 2 inches from it. Like a picture of a BJ. I think that was supposed to turn me on. She kept her face there with mouth open while working it. I'm feeling disgusted. After awhile she realizes I'm not getting anywhere although its still hard for some reason and she starts talking dirty. And I mean VULGAR. And because her english is terrible the things she says don't even make any sense. "oh. F# me. F## my a $$ And I'm thinking to even say "that doesn't make sense given the context" (because I'm so literal) but finally I release and I quickly get dressed. On the way out she keeps telling me to ask for her next time and she'll do full service. Not interested in that anyway but definitely not with her. I'll NEVER EVER EVER go back there.

  3. #7586

    Your mileage may vary

    Quote Originally Posted by FartCity  [View Original Post]
    10-4. Interesting. I believe you slightly more.
    A few years ago I dropped about $800 on Anna in St. Chuck because a senior member said extras were available from her. I got zero extras. Was he shilling for the owner of the AMP? I don't know but I don't see him posting here anymore.

    Last week I got a PM from a dude who said he got DATY and FS from Anna on a couple of occasions. Good for him but I'm done with her.

    Crazy shit happens at places where you wouldn't expect it if they like you. For consistent results, go to Centreville or Litchfield, IL.

  4. #7585
    Quote Originally Posted by ChetFont  [View Original Post]
    Fartcity, She seemed happy with $. Tipped. 4 for the other 2. The whole experience seemed irrational and if I was reading this I would be skeptical too. $. 4 is high because I can get FS for $. 6- 8 from better looking providers. Out of state phone number and license plate does have advantages and if you are willing to touch your junk, they know you can't be LEO.
    10-4. Interesting. I believe you slightly more.

  5. #7584
    Quote Originally Posted by Temping  [View Original Post]
    I am a Newb to the whole thing. First post too. Anyway. You pros who have been around awhile will probably recognize the AMP by the tactic I'll describe. Location. Somewhere central. I've been a couple of times with an open mind knowing that extras are somewhat "seasonal" and its hit or miss. There are a few very attractive asians that I like there and they all give great massages even from the therapeutic standpoint. I've never had HE there but DIY most times. So I frequent.

    Last time I found myself in the midst of a fairly strange mindgame. At the onset of the session, the masseuse, who I hadn't experienced before, kissed me on the cheek, flattered me about how attractive I was, touched all the fun areas, kept telling me how much they liked me, etc. They kept this up for about 15 minutes. Then things went to normal massage for awhile. At about 40 minutes they stirred things up again, touching and flirting. Then the flip. She keeps making a big show about making sure no one can see what we're doing. And theres this guy (owner?) walking back and forth like a barraks inspector who can see through the curtains if he wants (and here's where some of you pros will know the place I'm talking about). Then she whispers to me if I like it dirty. When I ask her to clarify (because of accent I did struggle to understand her), she told me that we needed the room in back and would I like to go back there for an additional 30 minutes. Whole time she's touching down there. I say sure, extending the time from 60-90 minutes. She puts a towel around me and has me race back to the back room with her (supposedly quickly so no one will see us!

    Then in back. She just sits there and massages my legs, staring off into space. After not long I realize that I've been scammed. Now here's the part where you'll all know I'm an idiot. I should say that I realized I've been scammed AGAIN. The reason I know I'm scammed is because the exact same thing happened to me acouple of weeks ago at the same place with a different lady!! Kissing me on the cheek, saying how much she liked me, touching / flirting, then extending the time and going stone cold. So why would I fall for it again? Well because I've had DIY success with the others and I'm a sucker for flattery! So after a few minutes I tell this lady "you know xxxx (other masseus) well guess what. A couple of weeks ago, she had me extend the time and promised me more. Then you know what she did? She just sat there and rubbed my legs and eventually said the session was finished! " She looked at me horrified, because I called her out directly. I also realize it was stupid of me to tell her what another masseuse did because they all talk to each other and now they'll think I can't be trusted. Anyway honestly I would have just liked a nice massage at that point. So I told her to do my shoulders and face and that she didn't have to pretend. She relaxed and then got really flirtatious again (which is strange).

    I'm sure this is acommon AMP experience. I don't know how the fee structure works. Do they get to keep the extra they make by extending to 90? I know some of them really need the money, may be stuck in a bad situation. Who knows. I have a mix of feelings. If they want to be legit, just be legit. But then I know some of them are in situations that they don't want to be in and I feel bad for them.

    A few things I know about SOME Chinese people (don't want to generalize) . I've had some extended experience (several years of intimate experience) with the culture through another situation that had nothing to do with AMPs 1) they think americans are stupid. 2) many times when they are flattering you in english they are laughing at you in Chinese with the others. 3) again, if they're really really nice to you it's sometimes actually a sign that they do not like you. 4) they often know more english than they let on and use the "miscommunication" as a cloak to keep things open for them to backtrack and blame you for misunderstanding. 5) they are raised in subtlety and nuance, something americans aren't prepared for. Everything going on in their environment is often deliberately contrived to send several layers of messages, even down to the color clothes being worn. Those saturated in the culture grow up being aware of much more that is being communicated in everything around them. Americans are straight forward and candid for the most part and we don't communicate in layers, which is why we're perceievd as stupid. And its why we fall for a lot of the nonsense probably. Anyway knowing all of that doesn't really help me overcome my urges when I'm naked in front of someone flattering me, but it should.
    Dude, when shit goes bad, just call them out.

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  6. #7583

    Know anything about oriental superspa next to VIP?

    Just a question. Wondering if anyone has tried it.

  7. #7582
    Quote Originally Posted by Temping  [View Original Post]
    Recently had some YGND experience. Mon. , little, Ang. Everything everyone has said about them is 100% accurate and in no way are they disappointing or anything but lovely. However, I found myself having a struggle "getting into it. " I find that I do not look forward to YGND as much as I look forward to an AMP. As I considered "what is wrong with me? I came to a few conclusions.

    1) MYSTERY: with an AMP there is a mystery all the way through. You don't know how things are going to go. That in itself is quite intriguing.

    2) MASSAGE: caucasian massage in comparison to asian. No comparison. I was talking to one of the YGND girls and asked if she had experienced asian massage. Its on her to do list. - she wants to learn some of the techniques. This would be really helpful. Even if you just get a therapeutic asian massage from a seasoned pro its quite an experience. Sometimes it feels like a machine drumming you and sometimes it feels like an ocean washing over you. Amazing.

    3) COMPARTMENTALIZATION: besides YGND I've had a few other caucasian massages, both sensual and non. The massage part is OK and typically the sensual part is compartmentalized. What I mean is that in 90% my experiences with caucasian, while massaging you're talking about music, weather, flooring, float trips and whatever. Then its time to go into the "sensual" part and now they're fiddling down there. Its hard for me to shift gears. Often I'm still thinking aobut something I can add to the conversation! When they go at it, I have difficulty focusing, and when I finish conversation goes right back to where we left off as if nothing happened. But the asian massage is seemless. Its both therapeutic and sensual the entire time, and the mystery of whether or not they were touching me sensually or therapeutically often heightens the excitement for me.

    After an exceptionally good session with a caucasian I still find myself hungry for an AMP experience. Anyone else?
    Nailed it. It's difficult to iterate, but yeah. Asian is better because. They don't fucking talk, the massage is always better, and you don't know what you're going to get until the end. Just like a good date, right? KIDDING. When I was younger before I was married to a wonderfully attractive lady, the body rubs and escort chicks were good to end dry spells. After getting marriage, the asian line of "well, I'm just here to get a good massage, if something happens out of nowhere, HOLY SHIT BEST DAY EVER. That doesn't really happen in St. Louis, but I don't go to where I know it's just for sexual purposes anymore. Just no fun.

  8. #7581

    Lillie

    Quote Originally Posted by RocketmanStl  [View Original Post]
    Heard she flakes a lot. Go to post (s) 7563 & 7564 in this thread.
    Another thing not to overlook! Thats not her pictures also. Not a bad looking lady. Just not near that fine 20 something in the pic.

  9. #7580

    Lillie

    Quote Originally Posted by Whaler  [View Original Post]
    Yes, Saw her about a month ago. She has small office / room right off main street in St Charles. Not a bad looking lady. Wears shirt and panties and gives.

    A not very good rub with a HJ HE. Not sure if anythingelse is on table did not ask. Thought it was a little over price. Lot better out there for less of a price.

    Hope that helps. PM me if want to know anythingelse.
    Heard she flakes a lot. Go to post (s) 7563 & 7564 in this thread.

  10. #7579

    AMPs vs Caucasian

    Recently had some YGND experience. Mon. , little, Ang. Everything everyone has said about them is 100% accurate and in no way are they disappointing or anything but lovely. However, I found myself having a struggle "getting into it. " I find that I do not look forward to YGND as much as I look forward to an AMP. As I considered "what is wrong with me? I came to a few conclusions.

    1) MYSTERY: with an AMP there is a mystery all the way through. You don't know how things are going to go. That in itself is quite intriguing.

    2) MASSAGE: caucasian massage in comparison to asian. No comparison. I was talking to one of the YGND girls and asked if she had experienced asian massage. Its on her to do list. - she wants to learn some of the techniques. This would be really helpful. Even if you just get a therapeutic asian massage from a seasoned pro its quite an experience. Sometimes it feels like a machine drumming you and sometimes it feels like an ocean washing over you. Amazing.

    3) COMPARTMENTALIZATION: besides YGND I've had a few other caucasian massages, both sensual and non. The massage part is OK and typically the sensual part is compartmentalized. What I mean is that in 90% my experiences with caucasian, while massaging you're talking about music, weather, flooring, float trips and whatever. Then its time to go into the "sensual" part and now they're fiddling down there. Its hard for me to shift gears. Often I'm still thinking aobut something I can add to the conversation! When they go at it, I have difficulty focusing, and when I finish conversation goes right back to where we left off as if nothing happened. But the asian massage is seemless. Its both therapeutic and sensual the entire time, and the mystery of whether or not they were touching me sensually or therapeutically often heightens the excitement for me.

    After an exceptionally good session with a caucasian I still find myself hungry for an AMP experience. Anyone else?

  11. #7578
    Quote Originally Posted by PipeFitter1956  [View Original Post]
    Yes, Saw her about a month ago. She has small office / room right off main street in St Charles. Not a bad looking lady. Wears shirt and panties and gives.

    A not very good rub with a HJ HE. Not sure if anythingelse is on table did not ask. Thought it was a little over price. Lot better out there for less of a price.

    Hope that helps. PM me if want to know anythingelse.

  12. #7577

    You win

    Quote Originally Posted by Temping  [View Original Post]
    I am a Newb to the whole thing. First post too. Anyway. You pros who have been around awhile will probably recognize the AMP by the tactic I'll describe. Location. Somewhere central. I've been a couple of times with an open mind knowing that extras are somewhat "seasonal" and its hit or miss. There are a few very attractive asians that I like there and they all give great massages even from the therapeutic standpoint. I've never had HE there but DIY most times. So I frequent.

    Last time I found myself in the midst of a fairly strange mindgame. At the onset of the session, the masseuse, who I hadn't experienced before, kissed me on the cheek, flattered me about how attractive I was, touched all the fun areas, kept telling me how much they liked me, etc. They kept this up for about 15 minutes. Then things went to normal massage for awhile. At about 40 minutes they stirred things up again, touching and flirting. Then the flip. She keeps making a big show about making sure no one can see what we're doing. And theres this guy (owner?) walking back and forth like a barraks inspector who can see through the curtains if he wants (and here's where some of you pros will know the place I'm talking about). Then she whispers to me if I like it dirty. When I ask her to clarify (because of accent I did struggle to understand her), she told me that we needed the room in back and would I like to go back there for an additional 30 minutes. Whole time she's touching down there. I say sure, extending the time from 60-90 minutes. She puts a towel around me and has me race back to the back room with her (supposedly quickly so no one will see us!

    Then in back. She just sits there and massages my legs, staring off into space. After not long I realize that I've been scammed. Now here's the part where you'll all know I'm an idiot. I should say that I realized I've been scammed AGAIN. The reason I know I'm scammed is because the exact same thing happened to me acouple of weeks ago at the same place with a different lady!! Kissing me on the cheek, saying how much she liked me, touching / flirting, then extending the time and going stone cold. So why would I fall for it again? Well because I've had DIY success with the others and I'm a sucker for flattery! So after a few minutes I tell this lady "you know xxxx (other masseus) well guess what. A couple of weeks ago, she had me extend the time and promised me more. Then you know what she did? She just sat there and rubbed my legs and eventually said the session was finished! " She looked at me horrified, because I called her out directly. I also realize it was stupid of me to tell her what another masseuse did because they all talk to each other and now they'll think I can't be trusted. Anyway honestly I would have just liked a nice massage at that point. So I told her to do my shoulders and face and that she didn't have to pretend. She relaxed and then got really flirtatious again (which is strange).

    I'm sure this is acommon AMP experience. I don't know how the fee structure works. Do they get to keep the extra they make by extending to 90? I know some of them really need the money, may be stuck in a bad situation. Who knows. I have a mix of feelings. If they want to be legit, just be legit. But then I know some of them are in situations that they don't want to be in and I feel bad for them.

    A few things I know about SOME Chinese people (don't want to generalize) . I've had some extended experience (several years of intimate experience) with the culture through another situation that had nothing to do with AMPs 1) they think americans are stupid. 2) many times when they are flattering you in english they are laughing at you in Chinese with the others. 3) again, if they're really really nice to you it's sometimes actually a sign that they do not like you. 4) they often know more english than they let on and use the "miscommunication" as a cloak to keep things open for them to backtrack and blame you for misunderstanding. 5) they are raised in subtlety and nuance, something americans aren't prepared for. Everything going on in their environment is often deliberately contrived to send several layers of messages, even down to the color clothes being worn. Those saturated in the culture grow up being aware of much more that is being communicated in everything around them. Americans are straight forward and candid for the most part and we don't communicate in layers, which is why we're perceievd as stupid. And its why we fall for a lot of the nonsense probably. Anyway knowing all of that doesn't really help me overcome my urges when I'm naked in front of someone flattering me, but it should.
    You win the prize for the best and longest first report I've seen all year. Way to go. I know exactly who you're talking about. Those ladies are little scammers and pull that stunt all the time.

  13. #7576
    Quote Originally Posted by FartCity  [View Original Post]
    You tipped. 4 for that? This is why we can't have nice things. I'll repeat on standard tips: DIY: . 2, HJHE: . 4, BJHE: . 6 - This: $$. 0 total, so $. 0.

    I frankly doubt most of this, unless you're like a weekly customer and know your personal identity well. They're very, very careful. Anything inappropriate happening in the lobby seems shockingly off for how carefully this place is run.
    Fartcity, She seemed happy with $. Tipped. 4 for the other 2. The whole experience seemed irrational and if I was reading this I would be skeptical too. $. 4 is high because I can get FS for $. 6- 8 from better looking providers. Out of state phone number and license plate does have advantages and if you are willing to touch your junk, they know you can't be LEO.

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