"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[PghGuy2005]

I am planning on getting it when the family is out of town for a few days in the coming weeks and I will be by myself. Hope to not have any sign of it by the time they return. Fingers crossed!

Thanks for the reports Craig's is a bust, which site is more productive?

Also can one get clipped in secret. Thanks for your time.

[HollywoodGuy]

This almost x porn star just agreed to come visit me. She seems really friendly. Just a soft intro meeting. In the FC but no guarantee of anything more than HJ and some body worship. Still worth it just to see what happens. 33 and 5' 1" latina.

[PghGuy2005]

Which is in the south eastern US. $640 for the procedure + $125 if you opt for pre-op consultation. Shop around brother and get the self-insured / cash price way different from prices quoted to insurance carriers and their patients.

Good reminder.

Oh Lord, I wish I were clipped.

I will get so much raw pussy. I have a 19-year old now that I know would give it to me.

Getting clipped without insurance is not cheap, as far as I know. Is it?

[HollywoodGuy]

Friday. Got flaked on.

Saturday. Saw my ATF for the 65th time. Still in the honeymoon phase after 10 months.

Currently working 5 POTS and 10 pre-POTS.

[RubberyMan]

How do you all deal with potential sbs that ask to see your facebook page or proof of who you are? I had one asked me today and I said that I wasn't comfortable giving out my personal information like where I work and relatives info etc. Then she said for a picture of my driver's license. I said no thank you and good luck to you. It was a shame, because she was hot and I had even video chatted with her. I just don't want anyone coming to my place of work or trying to get in touch with my relatives and coworkers.

Given the number of screwballs out there, some women are nervous about going into a hotel alone with someone they don't know. It's a risk for them.

So, the first question would be whether this happens to you a lot? If so, maybe you are giving off some vibrations that are setting them off.

The next question is whether or not the POT asking is someone special or not? If she is, then you may have to spend time enough for her to feel secure with you.

The next question is whether she is prepared to share her information with you. If she wants your details, but won't divulge hers, that's a red flag, if she will, that's probably her nervousness speaking.

I've agreed to do it once, but when it came to the point, she forgot to ask. So, I figure, you can always agree, if she is who you are looking for, have a m&g, most likely she won't ask IF you seem ok, and if she does, you can pull out just like you would if anything else didn't suit you.

[IDontLikeU]

How do you all deal with potential sbs that ask to see your facebook page or proof of who you are? I had one asked me today and I said that I wasn't comfortable giving out my personal information like where I work and relatives info etc. Then she said for a picture of my driver's license. I said no thank you and good luck to you. It was a shame, because she was hot and I had even video chatted with her. I just don't want anyone coming to my place of work or trying to get in touch with my relatives and coworkers.

You don't deal with it. You move on to the next one. Think with the big head.

[ReaperGuy]

How do you all deal with potential sbs that ask to see your facebook page or proof of who you are? I had one asked me today and I said that I wasn't comfortable giving out my personal information like where I work and relatives info etc. Then she said for a picture of my driver's license. I said no thank you and good luck to you. It was a shame, because she was hot and I had even video chatted with her. I just don't want anyone coming to my place of work or trying to get in touch with my relatives and coworkers.

I'd do it but black out all of my information except my picture and first name, which is all they get from my profile and discussions with me anyway. Some of you guys don't do pictures or real names so that wouldn't work for you. Just make sure you follow the usual rules with providing pictures: Remove EXIF data and take a screenshot of the picture you want to use, then use that screenshot as the picture you provide. Prevents someone from photoshopping your blacked out information and getting the real info below it and EXIF data prevents giving anyone information they shouldn't have (phone info, GPS location, picture date / time taken, etc).

[Member #5570]

How do you all deal with potential sbs that ask to see your facebook page or proof of who you are? I had one asked me today and I said that I wasn't comfortable giving out my personal information like where I work and relatives info etc. Then she said for a picture of my driver's license. I said no thank you and good luck to you. It was a shame, because she was hot and I had even video chatted with her. I just don't want anyone coming to my place of work or trying to get in touch with my relatives and coworkers.

I've been asked ONCE by a POT for a driver license. You have to ask yourself, what does a POT want with this info? A true non-pro would never even think about this.

I don't deal with it, I'd said 'see ya' and move on to the next target.

Nothing good will ever come out of having your personal info given away to a stranger.

[Donwhite]

How do you all deal with potential sbs that ask to see your facebook page or proof of who you are? I had one asked me today and I said that I wasn't comfortable giving out my personal information like where I work and relatives info etc. Then she said for a picture of my driver's license. I said no thank you and good luck to you. It was a shame, because she was hot and I had even video chatted with her. I just don't want anyone coming to my place of work or trying to get in touch with my relatives and coworkers.

[ReaperGuy]

I wouldn't trust a 19 year old to tell me anything about timing her fertility cycle. Be wary of going in raw and having her grab you and pull you in so you can't pull out either.

So after ditching my first attempts in the bowl (3 of which were sucessful FC visits, 2 didn't pan out), have 4 pots lined up right now I'm working on:

#1 35 year old MILF. We negotiated a rate of 275/ visit up front, she clearly knew what she was doing and was easy to talk to. Little higher than I like, but she has a gas guzzling SUV and I'm pretty sure on our first visit I'm going to be smashing her ass from behind in the backseat area of said SUV so I'm ok with it. 7/7 in the looks department from pictures, I have the feeling in person might be better. Long distance trip for this one so I plan to only see her once a month, maybe twice tops. Hope the payout is worth it, if it isn't I might cut her loose due to the cost and the distance.

#2 29 year old - 8/6, she put on some weight that she's trying to burn off and I can respect that. Has natural red hair, a big+ for me. We traded dirty pictures back and forth, she wants to get to know me better before FC so we've already gone on one date. Had some real chemistry and I hope this one works out. Have not discussed funds yet, I'm getting the vibe that she just wants a fuckbuddy and I am ok with that.

#3 19 year old. Very large breasted young girl that is very submissive. We were texting back and forth to talk about what we're looking for and she left an opening for me to ask about pictures, she pretended she didn't like doing them then sent me some rather exquisite photos of her uncovered DD chest while biting her lip. I proceeded to tell her to take a few more for me in various poses and she responded 'yes sir'. We have a meetup scheduled for Thursday, she was very open about wanting some daddy dick so I will hopefully be drained shortly after dinner. Funds haven't been discussed yet, plan to do so at the meetup. I haven't had luck discussing funds up front with most of the young girls, the older ones are usually easy to talk to about it.

#4 19 year old. Very inexperienced girl looking for daddy to teach her about life and sex, said she has only been with one boy in high school. Sent me some pictures (are you seeing a trend here?) after I asked for them and she has the sweetest looking pussy I've seen in a while. Very receptive to comments and suggestion, going to try to visit her this week somehow and see if I can get a sample. Isn't asking for much, cares more about guidance and mentoring than money. Has the potential to be The Dream, the young one you can mold to be what you want.

Definitely in the feast part of 'feast or famine', I've been actively turning away contacts at this point. 2 of the 4 pots I have right now contacted me, not vice versa, which I found amazing.

Update on standings-.

#1: Haven't had a meetup yet, going to try to line something up this week though.

#2: Did an initial meetup and we had some real chemistry, have a confirmed FC visit tomorrow after lunch at her place. Expecting good things from this one, we've had a lot of conversation about tomorrow's visit and expectations.

#3: Ended up being out of my price range, next'd her prior to M&G. Have a feeling I'll here back from her eventually when she can't find someone offering what she wants.

#4: Also a FC visit tomorrow, we'll see if it pans out. Hopefully I won't be completely drained from #2, might be a 4 shot day.

Had a few other discussions but nothing confirmed or serious yet with some other girls (or as HWG is calling them, pre-pots).

[RedThunder]

Its a way to qualify a girls intentions.

Just want to say thanks for the guide. That really works well. Wish I'd tried SA earlier.

[Member #6951]

I came across this Pot, and she stated that she's not interested in financial aspect of it, she just want physical and mental support. Someone fun and ready to have a good time. Whose guenuine, nice and respectful. This is my first time ever coming across a Pot, who not interested in the financial aspect of it. Anybody had a similar experience? How did it turn out? How did you approach it?

It happens. I've had a few babies where fun happened without sugar. Just remember nothing in life is free and if it seems too good to be true it probably is. Mental and emotional support can be just as taxing especially if you are attached and already have other emotional responsibilities. Just remember to always be clear about expectations.

[HollywoodGuy]

About every few months I end up with about 10 or 20 POTS I never seem to get around to. So rather than making excuses I just delete them all and start over. Here is the first new batch from the last week.

A - 24, 5'9" mixed with model looks and body and close by and has a car. Definitely going to meet. Curvy spinner.

B - 18, 5'9" white latina very new to everything but ready to learn, no car. Will meet just to see if she is as kinky as I think she might be. Bigger girl with big tits.

C - 19, 5'4" AA close by and has a car, best attitude so far. For sure going to meet.

D - 18, 5'3" AA beautiful but far and no car and just turned 18, super strict parents. Might have to bite the bullet due to her looks and make the drive.

E - 18, 5'6" white latina arty girl, very far, very intelligent, no car.

UPDATE AFTER 5 DAYS.

A. 24, still in the game. Haven't met yet. Message daily (pictured a). Very tall 5'9" but in the dream girl category for me.

B. Flaked and mia. Goodbye.

C- Met and talked. No chemistry.

D. MIA.

E. Very excited about our date Sunday night (pictured e). 18, tiny body and only 5'3".

So three dropped off the list and two are still in play. I added 4 new POTS since then. I dont consider any girl a POT until I have her phone # and email address & an agreement on the sugar amount. But two girls seemed so enamored and down to earth that for the FIRST time ever I am going on a M&G with no prior talk of sugar. They are both 18 and tiny and could keep me entertained for hours. lol. They are so perfect for me that it's worth the risk.

Everyone says POT this and POT that, but from what I have read on this thread, a lot of these POT's are not POT's. They are more like pre-POTS.

IMHO it might be a little clearer and more meaningful to use the pre-POT designation if that is what the case may be. The mission statement of this thread is to disseminate the most relevant information possible, so as for all of us to sharpen our skills to the best of our abilities. I am sure in the past I have been an equal opportunity offender. In the future I will use the designations pre-POT and POT depending on which step of the ladder they are really on. According to my spreadsheet I currently have about 6 pre-POTS as well as the afore mentioned POTS.

http://coach4ula.wix.com/fivesteps - for the newbies

[HollywoodGuy]

So, I'm a newbie / lurker here just made my first post over in the Greenville, SC forum. This seems to be the go to place for SB info. I just joined SA today. I've been reading trying to figure out the best way to get results. I found your five step guide. So what does message 2 mean: 123 message? Sorry if that's a dumb question.

Its a way to qualify a girls intentions.

[FyrGuy33]

Last night I get a message from a 21 y / o pretty blonde co-ed close to me that I had talk briefly to last week. Asks if I am still interested. Sure I am. We exchange regular e-mail addresses and I go thru the 5 step e-mail. She's very interested and we set up a coffee date for this morning. Guess what? No show, no e-mail. Total silence. And, she has taken down her SA account. I'm wondering if Mommy and Daddy caught her. NEXT!

So the next is two different 20 y / o POTS I also talked with last night. Currently working on m&g's with them for next week. What IO love about SA is that there is always some new talent waiting to be scooped up.