"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Mike7794]

Really been sidelined the last couple of months because of no alone time. What's been bad is there were some very good POTs in my area that I couldn't seal the deal with do to time constraints. So I whiffed on some seemingly quality ones. I was also a little bummed that my 19 year old UTR girl had gone off the grid. I have a week or so of freedom, I wanted to experience quite a bit, but it was looking grim.

So what to do, fresh prospects bailing because they don't think I am serious, so I mined the old field. Been in contact with a 19 year old who I met let summer for a one and done and we tentatively have plans for a day. Rekindled talks with 31 year old MILF, also set up tentative meeting. Been talking to an 18 with some extra weight, but I have a hard time turning down any 18 year old and she is on board. And lo and behold, my 19 year old utr resurfaces and will be here in about 30 minutes.

Now, something interesting about the 19 year old utr. She is not on OCs. So I wrap it up every time. This will be the 8th time I have been with her, and she is requesting that I go hatless, insisting it will be ok, that she has timed it right. I don't trust this at all and wonder if she wants to get pregnant. Anybody else experience such a request?

Yes I have experienced that, but in my case having a Vsec takes all the worries away. I would be careful if I were you. A baby's perception of having a rich guy pay her child support for 18 years is an enticing thought.

[HollywoodGuy]

A girl shows up at the FC in a dress with no bras and panties is definitely begging to be fuck right?.

Never assume, because we all know what that pseudo acronym means.

[ReaperGuy]

Really been sidelined the last couple of months because of no alone time. What's been bad is there were some very good POTs in my area that I couldn't seal the deal with do to time constraints. So I whiffed on some seemingly quality ones. I was also a little bummed that my 19 year old UTR girl had gone off the grid. I have a week or so of freedom, I wanted to experience quite a bit, but it was looking grim.

So what to do, fresh prospects bailing because they don't think I am serious, so I mined the old field. Been in contact with a 19 year old who I met let summer for a one and done and we tentatively have plans for a day. Rekindled talks with 31 year old MILF, also set up tentative meeting. Been talking to an 18 with some extra weight, but I have a hard time turning down any 18 year old and she is on board. And lo and behold, my 19 year old utr resurfaces and will be here in about 30 minutes.

Now, something interesting about the 19 year old utr. She is not on OCs. So I wrap it up every time. This will be the 8th time I have been with her, and she is requesting that I go hatless, insisting it will be ok, that she has timed it right. I don't trust this at all and wonder if she wants to get pregnant. Anybody else experience such a request?

I wouldn't trust a 19 year old to tell me anything about timing her fertility cycle. Be wary of going in raw and having her grab you and pull you in so you can't pull out either.

So after ditching my first attempts in the bowl (3 of which were sucessful FC visits, 2 didn't pan out), have 4 pots lined up right now I'm working on:

#1 35 year old MILF. We negotiated a rate of 275/ visit up front, she clearly knew what she was doing and was easy to talk to. Little higher than I like, but she has a gas guzzling SUV and I'm pretty sure on our first visit I'm going to be smashing her ass from behind in the backseat area of said SUV so I'm ok with it. 7/7 in the looks department from pictures, I have the feeling in person might be better. Long distance trip for this one so I plan to only see her once a month, maybe twice tops. Hope the payout is worth it, if it isn't I might cut her loose due to the cost and the distance.

#2 29 year old - 8/6, she put on some weight that she's trying to burn off and I can respect that. Has natural red hair, a big+ for me. We traded dirty pictures back and forth, she wants to get to know me better before FC so we've already gone on one date. Had some real chemistry and I hope this one works out. Have not discussed funds yet, I'm getting the vibe that she just wants a fuckbuddy and I am ok with that.

#3 19 year old. Very large breasted young girl that is very submissive. We were texting back and forth to talk about what we're looking for and she left an opening for me to ask about pictures, she pretended she didn't like doing them then sent me some rather exquisite photos of her uncovered DD chest while biting her lip. I proceeded to tell her to take a few more for me in various poses and she responded 'yes sir'. We have a meetup scheduled for Thursday, she was very open about wanting some daddy dick so I will hopefully be drained shortly after dinner. Funds haven't been discussed yet, plan to do so at the meetup. I haven't had luck discussing funds up front with most of the young girls, the older ones are usually easy to talk to about it.

#4 19 year old. Very inexperienced girl looking for daddy to teach her about life and sex, said she has only been with one boy in high school. Sent me some pictures (are you seeing a trend here?) after I asked for them and she has the sweetest looking pussy I've seen in a while. Very receptive to comments and suggestion, going to try to visit her this week somehow and see if I can get a sample. Isn't asking for much, cares more about guidance and mentoring than money. Has the potential to be The Dream, the young one you can mold to be what you want.

Definitely in the feast part of 'feast or famine', I've been actively turning away contacts at this point. 2 of the 4 pots I have right now contacted me, not vice versa, which I found amazing.

[Dandy Don]

Really been sidelined the last couple of months because of no alone time. What's been bad is there were some very good POTs in my area that I couldn't seal the deal with do to time constraints. So I whiffed on some seemingly quality ones. I was also a little bummed that my 19 year old UTR girl had gone off the grid. I have a week or so of freedom, I wanted to experience quite a bit, but it was looking grim.

So what to do, fresh prospects bailing because they don't think I am serious, so I mined the old field. Been in contact with a 19 year old who I met let summer for a one and done and we tentatively have plans for a day. Rekindled talks with 31 year old MILF, also set up tentative meeting. Been talking to an 18 with some extra weight, but I have a hard time turning down any 18 year old and she is on board. And lo and behold, my 19 year old utr resurfaces and will be here in about 30 minutes.

Now, something interesting about the 19 year old utr. She is not on OCs. So I wrap it up every time. This will be the 8th time I have been with her, and she is requesting that I go hatless, insisting it will be ok, that she has timed it right. I don't trust this at all and wonder if she wants to get pregnant. Anybody else experience such a request?

[FyrGuy33]

This evening I noticed that POT#1 has deleted her profile on SA. As has been pointed out earlier, nothing says "I love you Daddy" more than seeing them do that.

[Bowtie]

Ok, I've been active on SD4 M and WYP for a while, decided to pay the dues on SA, MUCH BETTER results. More babies than time. A ton of GPS and pro's, but doing some weeding. Several m&g's, one to FC (her place) on 2nd date, several lined up this week. Busy busy. Anyway, chatting with this 30 something, yeh, a little over my target range but cute so I continue. We are back and forth on the site, I get her number. So I text her, and find out I already have it in my burner phone. Under a different name of a 19 yo I "met" earlier. I text the 30 something that I'm a bit confused. She responds "about what", and rattles off the other girls name. Other girl is daughter. Thats a first for me, and we all remember the scene from Animal House with god on one shoulder, devel on the other, well, I haven't talked to either since. Messed up, I just want a goog friend out of this!

[MyHobby]

I normally don't ask so bluntly. I just lean in and go for it. For the most part these girls aren't professionals and they'll be more than willing to make out a bit and if they're into it one thing will lead to another. My signature move is a tug at their neckline and ask if I can peek or a hand on the breast and ask if it's ok to feel. I assume if they've entered the FC they planned to go for it so a gentle push in the right direction isn't out of order.

I've been texting this 21 yr AA coed spinner for the past week, that had agree to 600-800 per month allowance, and finally set up a MG at the FC today. Usually, these meetings end up with plenty of action. She's 5'5 slim, with a nice booty. I think HWG would approve. LOL.

So, I went there, got the room and waited for her to show up. She was about 15-20 late. She texted me when she finally show up and I cam out to her car to greet her and we walk back to the room together. I had a huge grin on my face when I saw her. She had on a tight, low cut black dress and from what I can tell no bras nor panties. I was thinking, damn I am going to be working extra hard today. She was actually prettier than the pics she sent me.

We spent about half an hour in the FC room talking, and having some good laughs. So, the dumb me asked her: "So, are you ready to have some fun? And I think that sort of caught her by surprise, and she pause for a while and slowly says something along the line of "I think we should wait until the next meeting".

Now, this is partly my fault because I did leave her the option of just meeting and talk and getting to know each other, however what I failed to clearly state (which I almost always do) is that sugar won't come until we have intimacy. So, we chatted for a few more minutes and she asked if she will be getting her allowance of 100 today and I had to explain to her that she won't be getting her allowance until we fuck (in a nice way). And this part of the conversation was not pleasant at all and I could see the dissatisfaction in her. I ended up giving her 40 for gas, and parted ways.

Now, 99% of my MG at the FC ends up with POF and after some chit chat and when I am ready for action, I just tell them to stand up, show me what they got (and that's usually the cue for them to get undress). And then the fun would start. But this time, the stupid me had to ask the question if she's ready to play.

A few hours later I text her to say that it was a pleasure to meet her, and I apologize I didn't make it clear and that I own her an apology. She replied back that yea, I owes her an apology and that it was also nice to meet me. So, I guess that's a positive.

So, did I have a brain fart moment? A girl shows up at the FC in a dress with no bras and panties is definitely begging to be fuck right?

Trying to set up that next meeting, so we'll see. BTW, she had not been back on the site for about 5 days now, so at least she's not actively looking or too busy talking to other SDs.

[Member #5570]

I've been texting this 21 yr AA coed spinner for the past week, that had agree to 600-800 per month allowance, and finally set up a MG at the FC today. Usually, these meetings end up with plenty of action. She's 5'5 slim, with a nice booty. I think HWG would approve. LOL.

So, I went there, got the room and waited for her to show up. She was about 15-20 late. She texted me when she finally show up and I cam out to her car to greet her and we walk back to the room together. I had a huge grin on my face when I saw her. She had on a tight, low cut black dress and from what I can tell no bras nor panties. I was thinking, damn I am going to be working extra hard today. She was actually prettier than the pics she sent me.

We spent about half an hour in the FC room talking, and having some good laughs. So, the dumb me asked her: "So, are you ready to have some fun? And I think that sort of caught her by surprise, and she pause for a while and slowly says something along the line of "I think we should wait until the next meeting".

Now, this is partly my fault because I did leave her the option of just meeting and talk and getting to know each other, however what I failed to clearly state (which I almost always do) is that sugar won't come until we have intimacy. So, we chatted for a few more minutes and she asked if she will be getting her allowance of 100 today and I had to explain to her that she won't be getting her allowance until we fuck (in a nice way). And this part of the conversation was not pleasant at all and I could see the dissatisfaction in her. I ended up giving her 40 for gas, and parted ways.

Now, 99% of my MG at the FC ends up with POF and after some chit chat and when I am ready for action, I just tell them to stand up, show me what they got (and that's usually the cue for them to get undress). And then the fun would start. But this time, the stupid me had to ask the question if she's ready to play.

A few hours later I text her to say that it was a pleasure to meet her, and I apologize I didn't make it clear and that I own her an apology. She replied back that yea, I owes her an apology and that it was also nice to meet me. So, I guess that's a positive.

So, did I have a brain fart moment? A girl shows up at the FC in a dress with no bras and panties is definitely begging to be fuck right?

Trying to set up that next meeting, so we'll see. BTW, she had not been back on the site for about 5 days now, so at least she's not actively looking or too busy talking to other SDs.

[Norm Gerd]

That is just a BAD idea. I like the young ones so I have this kind of scenario a lot. I won't do it. She can meet me one subway stop away from home or at an intersection 3 - 4 blocks away.

Let's list the problems:

1. You have not yet verified her age. Say she is just 17 and the parents call law enforcement when they see how old you are and that their daughter just got in your car?

2. Even if she is 18, say her parents call law enforcement? Are you sure they won't try and find you?

3. Violence. Maybe against you, maybe against her. Do you need this kind of risk?

4. And probably the most likely issue. That if the parents see her getting in a car with you they will give her the third degree and any potential arrangement will be nipped in the bud.

Man I gotta agree with the new guy here, picking up at mommy and daddies would be a HUGE no fucking way for me.

A2

FYI I did pass. The girl however was legit, as I was able to locate her FB page quite easily. And she was of age. Just having transportation issues. But there was no way I was going to Mom and dad's house. Too bad, as she was 18 year old With the kind of body you'd expect for that age.

Norm!

[HollywoodGuy]

So with the pending move from the DMV I started trying to shut it down, given my sugar stash will be limited. 3 SBs went quietly into the night after the news. 2 others wanted to to keep going until the move with no sugar, just cover expenses. The third was brand new, she wanted a bf / gf type of relationship anyway. So she was fine with keeping things going, meeting once a week, cover the expenses and a gift once a month until I leave.

I have one legit in TX, one POT and one I've sent out an email to that I'm hoping for a response. So we'll see how it goes. My legit will be flying here for a weekend of Tiggabounce. Normally I would not fly in for the first FC meeting, but this is just downpayment on when I get to TX. She has her own place and I expect my monthly expenses, with my own key to be less than $600 a month. This is so much cheaper than the DMV.

HWG. Not sure I'm posting pics on this one. I'll have to play with it to hide identifying features. We'll see.

BigTigg.

Whenever I post pics I google them, etc first to make sure they don't show up in any searches. Some threads post tons of pics. I realize they are not SB pics. But its doable.

[FyrGuy33]

Had a m&g with POT#1 this afternoon. She's as cute in person as her pics. All went well and we will decide tomorrow what day this week the trip to the FC will be. Really refreshing to find a 22 why / o that is actually a mature thinker. This one is going to be fun without the drama.

Still working on POT#2. We have been texting a lot and she is very much into this whole thing but our schedules for a m&g have just not been lining up. You can tell that this one is a very sexually frustrated woman that needs a good, hard fucking.

POT#3 has gone totally silent on me. To be honest, I really didn't make a big effort with her over the weekend. A couple of quick texts that never got a reply. She must have found her SD. NEXT!

[BigTigger]

So with the pending move from the DMV I started trying to shut it down, given my sugar stash will be limited. 3 SBs went quietly into the night after the news. 2 others wanted to to keep going until the move with no sugar, just cover expenses. The third was brand new, she wanted a bf / gf type of relationship anyway. So she was fine with keeping things going, meeting once a week, cover the expenses and a gift once a month until I leave.

I have one legit in TX, one POT and one I've sent out an email to that I'm hoping for a response. So we'll see how it goes. My legit will be flying here for a weekend of Tiggabounce. Normally I would not fly in for the first FC meeting, but this is just downpayment on when I get to TX. She has her own place and I expect my monthly expenses, with my own key to be less than $600 a month. This is so much cheaper than the DMV.

HWG. Not sure I'm posting pics on this one. I'll have to play with it to hide identifying features. We'll see.

BigTigg.

[Mike7794]

I need to start getting in the habit of posting my escapades, since I read everyone's experiences.

Just got back from Georgia where I spent the last week. Met with a 25 yo who ended up being a pro, but I made due with it for a night then cut her loose the next day. Nice enough and had a good time in the FC, but I prefer the non pros. I had backups, but couldn't get them to respond once I was down there. I don't know if they didn't like being second in line or what. I had to literally turn down about 5 of them, because I planned on spending about four days with the one I chose. I was busy anyway, so it wasn't a huge issue.

Meeting one of my regulars for the holiday. She's 21 yo and entering her senior year of college. A spinner who is easy to get along with, willing to please and fun to be with.

On Sunday meeting a 33 yo for a M & G. She's the oldest I've gone after. She seems eager, but we'll see.

Working on a POT 20 yo Asian college student locally who is new and green to this site. She is hesitant, but I'm working on her. We'll see how it goes.

I have a 20 yo POT to go see in another city who is a college student who seems eager for a SD. I've had trouble getting to her because of my time availability lately.

I have 21 yo POT locally that is eager to meet, but trying to fit her in this Sunday after my M & G with the 33 yo. I suspect she might be a UTR, but we'll see.

I still have my regular 22 yo Asian grad student that I have in my lineup.

So currently I have two regulars, but looking to replace my Asian grad student.

I've noticed the action has really picked up over the last 3 weeks in my area. I having a great time with this. I just wish I would have started this game sooner.

Spending the fourth with my regular went well as usual. She's just easy to hang with and will do just about anything I ask I believe. She's in an undergrad program of Equestrian riding of all things. She's a spinner with strong damn thighs that know how to clamp on to your body. A little on the quiet side but likes the FC. On the meeting she brings a fifth of whiskey, which kind of surprised me. With her being kind of quiet and introverted no one would imagine this other side to her. I'm not complaining.

Met the 33 yr old today and found out she actually is an MLIF. Damn nice looking and slender. She accepted the $150 offer and want to meet this Wednesday for the FC. She has potential to replace my Asian grad student I was looking to replace. We hit it off extremely well.

Was supposed to meet the 21 yr old local and had time and place set up then before I got on the road I had a feeling I should confirm that we were meeting at the designated time. She went silent. Then she texts right at the time we were to meet and had the standard she encountered very bad news and wanted to meet later. I declined and made up something about being busy later. We have been trying to get together for the past few weeks, but could never connect. Not her fault in fact it has been my schedule more than anything, but we finally were able to agree on a time and everything was a go, then last minute she has an excuse. I don't have much patience these days for games, so I shut them off. There are too many SB's out there eager for my sugar, so I'm not going to do too much chasing. Anyway if this MILF works out I'll go sit back and work my lineup. I think. I always get tempted by the new ones.

[Mike7794]

Had a M&G recently with a girl who had been on the site for a few months now, but claims to have not been in an arrangement yet. She says she gets tired of being approached by creeps and jerks and fakes. So she expressed her gratitude to me in our opening messages that I was polite and respectful to her, while still laying out exactly what my expectations were. She thanked me again during our M&G for being nice and kind to her, it helped set her at ease and made her completely comfortable with going to the FC with me later this evening. This girl is very sweet, we have a lot in common, and her schedule works very well with mine. Something tells me she's going to be my #1 SB for a while, with the other recent SB I've seen a couple of times now being put on back-up, since our schedules don't work out the best.

It's amazing the stories I hear from some of these girls about some of the other guys that message them. I want to say thank you to those guys and shake their hands. You make my job so much easier. When I message a girl and I treat her with basic respect and decency, while still remaining firm about what my expectations are and what my donations will be (plus the fact that I deliver on what I promise), I stand out from the creeps, jerks, and fakes.

Sometimes a little kindness goes a long way with these girls who are just looking for a guy who will treat them right, probably even better than most guys have treated them before.

I'm finding the same to be true where I am regarding being told about the creeps and rude guys they encounter. And I too am finding great success with just basic kindness and respect.

[BikeRider]

Had a M&G recently with a girl who had been on the site for a few months now, but claims to have not been in an arrangement yet. She says she gets tired of being approached by creeps and jerks and fakes. So she expressed her gratitude to me in our opening messages that I was polite and respectful to her, while still laying out exactly what my expectations were. She thanked me again during our M&G for being nice and kind to her, it helped set her at ease and made her completely comfortable with going to the FC with me later this evening. This girl is very sweet, we have a lot in common, and her schedule works very well with mine. Something tells me she's going to be my #1 SB for a while, with the other recent SB I've seen a couple of times now being put on back-up, since our schedules don't work out the best.

It's amazing the stories I hear from some of these girls about some of the other guys that message them. I want to say thank you to those guys and shake their hands. You make my job so much easier. When I message a girl and I treat her with basic respect and decency, while still remaining firm about what my expectations are and what my donations will be (plus the fact that I deliver on what I promise), I stand out from the creeps, jerks, and fakes.

Sometimes a little kindness goes a long way with these girls who are just looking for a guy who will treat them right, probably even better than most guys have treated them before.

Back in the bowl after a long hiatus. I had two M&G's on the 4th, and both women had equally amazing stories about SD's gone bad. One actually asked me if there was a web site for guys about SA because she gets a lot of emails that are similar. I, of course, pleaded ignorance.

Guys. If you're using HWG's five-step method. You should make major changes. Just saying.