"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[FotoGuy1970]

Signed up with SA for the first time in a couple of months. They had banned my IP address from *ALL* of their sites, claiming I was doing something I wasn't. So I used an IP proxy and have crafted a new profile using a new e-mail addy. It isn't background verified like I used to be, but I'm sure as hell not forking over that kind of money again if SA can just ban people for no good reason and not refund the money.

I've had a promising POT respond to my initial messages. Says she's tired of other guys on the site giving her promises and not being able to follow through. Luckily for her, I can promise and deliver, especially since her needs seems pretty small in comparison to my past SBs for the most part.

Another POT was responding to messages but seems to think she can call the shots. Sorry, but I've got the cash so I call the shots. Going to have to let her realize that daddy doesn't play by the baby's rules, it's vice versa.

Lots of other messages sent out. The game is on.

[FotoGuy1970]

After a Pot express that she's not interested, how many have you followed up after a few months? Or you don't follow up unless the Pot follows up.

I've tried to occasionally follow up with a POT, but I usually find the waters are still just as frigid as they were before. I've had one POT get back to me months later, which led to a fun one night stand.

[FotoGuy1970]

I don't do it but I am curious.

Did anyone actually pay for her time to meet? Did that really go anywhere with that pot?

I feel like doing this is feeding an ego and is a waste.

I had a couple of hotties ask and I said no, of course.

Pay for her coffee, drinks, dinner, or whatever, but never, ever just hand her cash for a M&G, that just sets a bad precedent for any future arrangement with the POT. *UNLESS* a POT is driving a fair distance to come see you, I personally feel it is fair to reimburse her gas money. I will give a POT gas money if she is driving a half-hour or more.

[FTP1999]

I don't do it but I am curious.

Did anyone actually pay for her time to meet? Did that really go anywhere with that pot?

I feel like doing this is feeding an ego and is a waste.

I had a couple of hotties ask and I said no, of course.

[Falar]

After a Pot express that she's not interested, how many have you followed up after a few months? Or you don't follow up unless the Pot follows up.

[RiverCity2011]

Anyone ever hang out with a gorgeous UTR redhead in Chester VA named Stephanie? Please PM me. Thanks.

[FyrGuy33]

Well, the T-Bops demanding money for er-nothing are starting to show up again. Here's a good one " Help me out and I'll help you out" followed by "Networking to get a better paying job, or meeting up with no sexual behavior involved".

Cute 19 yr old. I wonder how she plans on helping her nonexistent benefactor? Can you guys think of any way a 19 yr old can help you besides the obvious?

Here's another -perhaps a 10/10 19 yr old " A polite respectful man to take care of me. Friendship only! " Both on the same page

Oops ! Found another 21 yr old cutie" Someone who is willing to throw a couple of bucks my way. Not asking for much. I am not interested in a sexual relationship---"

Anybody in the RVA market interested in a cash and dash alert PM me. Must be a known poster.

Fred: my curiosity is really up on these. Just for shits and giggles perhaps you should pose the question of what they offer in the way of "help" to their benefactors.

Some of these T-bops were very popular in high school and honestly believe that it carries over into the real world. That guys like us are dying to just sit and talk with them and hand over whatever they need. I actually enjoy telling them that I am not that desperate for someone to talk to.

NEXT!

[JZLizard]

Oops ! Found another 21 yr old cutie " Someone who is willing to throw a couple of bucks my way. Not asking for much. I am not interested in a sexual relationship---"

Thought I'd take a second to make use of the index (to create awareness of it and regurgitate some possible reasons for what you're seeing without typing it again).

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...292&viewfull=1#post2480292.

Post #3, reference to post #8243.

[FredMoore]

Well, the T-Bops demanding money for er-nothing are starting to show up again. Here's a good one " Help me out and I'll help you out" followed by "Networking to get a better paying job, or meeting up with no sexual behavior involved".

Cute 19 yr old. I wonder how she plans on helping her nonexistent benefactor? Can you guys think of any way a 19 yr old can help you besides the obvious?

Here's another -perhaps a 10/10 19 yr old " A polite respectful man to take care of me. Friendship only! " Both on the same page

Oops ! Found another 21 yr old cutie" Someone who is willing to throw a couple of bucks my way. Not asking for much. I am not interested in a sexual relationship---"

Anybody in the RVA market interested in a cash and dash alert PM me. Must be a known poster.

[IluvSmellyFish]

I understand what you mean about the boredom. I have felt it. I did a string of m&gs that left me more tired than excited. I suspect, if you're anything like me, you feel it when you're bored with the current rotation, or when all you're meeting are pots that are nando 1 types that start out by talking about their needs and what they want. I've found that both exhausting and boring.

What you need to find is a fresh young baby that is not jaded by the game, in it for the right reasons, and who genuinely likes you. It will completely re-energize you.

After another series of m&gs this past week, I have decided to take a break from the search to cultivate my two babies and work on one pot that have made it past the m&g process.

My Asian grad student is a little to needy emotionally and financially, but she adores me. That, and her lithe runners body have made it so she stays in rotation. I get the feeling she would do almost anything to please me, which is both good and bad.

My 18 why / o blonde and I are going strong. She is sweet, submissive in some ways and fiercly independent in others. It helps that she loves sex, but has an innocence about her that comes from a lack of experience, which is more than made up by her desire to please. We had a light bondage session during our last meet and trip to the FC. I used some neck ties to tie her up and blindfold her. Then I had my way with her, using every hole. I lost my load when she started whimpering "daddy, please don't stop, its kind of hurts, but it feels so so good. ". Like my asian grad student, she wants so badly to please me that I sometimes wonder how far I could take this one. She has told me that she isn't interested in being with another girl and me at the same time, but I'm considering whether or not to bring these two babies together for a threesome.

Both of these young ladies took down their SA profiles voluntarily without me requesting that they do so. That in itself was a bit of an ego boost / rush.

After working a large number of pots and a series of m&gs, there is only one more pot that might have a chance at making it into my rotation. She is a 19 why / o Asian who is new to the site. Really tight body, tall, with long legs. She is a typical 19 year old, and probably won't last very long in rotation because of that, but she is hot enough to pursue. If her FC skills make up for the boring conversation then she might close out my summer rotation.

So if you're feeling bowl fatigue, I'd say its probably because you're bored with your current rotation. Also the rising summer tide in the bowl came with lots of flotsam and jetsam. There are still high quality babies to be had though, you just have to sort through the crap to find them.

Any you guys reach fatigue yet? I got a few new POTS, but I haven't had the energy to go through the game and the whole process. Last night I had a M&G with a girl that was practically begging to meet up. I was more annoyed about going to meet her then I was excited about the opportunity for FC. We met up and she was a total bore. I felt that she should be paying me for my time. In some cases, I've lost interest in even the FC offers from my current roster. I had a hot 21 year old that wanted to come by for NSA last night and I wasn't up to it.

I'm wondering if my lack of energy has something to do with an incident that happened a couple days ago. I'm in line at the grocery and I see a girl in her 20's that looks familiar. I go home and log in to SA and it's the same girl. I chatted her up and true enough it was her. She didn't remember me from the grocery, but she gave me this spill about being short for rent next month. Is the bowl the new preferred dating site for all college age girls in the DMV?

[NcNative]

I've noticed that more than a few of the questions / advice on here has pertained to erection problems, libido issues and overall health and fitness. I'm wondering if there's anyone on here that's taking testosterone replacement therapy? I started about 8 weeks ago, and it has completely changed my life. My waning libido is back like I'm 18 again. My erections are more frequent and harder than ever. I'm able to have sex multiple times per day. All of these things have been giving me problems over the past 2 years or so. Not to mention I've been an animal in the gym, and in general am more aggressive (not in a negative way) have an improved mood, and in general a more positive outlook on life.

I am 56. I initially got shots at doctor's office in December 2011. Weighed 227 lbs. Once every 4 weeks, then once every 3 weeks. Then began to commute out of town and needed to find a doctor to give me the shot. The guy I found convinced me to give myself a shot every 3. 5 days at a lower dose.

I am at 195 lbs now. I get night-time erections like a high school kid. I workout and cycle regularly. I still do need Levitra for consistency. A couple of nights ago, I met a SB and we went at it for a solid hour. Longest I have ever done, even when I was younger. I had self prepped 36 hours earlier to keep from finishing with her too quickly.

My total testosterone is right at 600. Right in the middle of the range.

I am pre-diabetic, so even if there is some risk to the T therapy. I weigh that risk against other health concerns. I feel very good about what I am doing.

[Member #6951]

That was definitely a pro. When dealing with SB's never agree to pay up front. Never go over your budget no matter how hot she is. Cover what activities are expected before you get to the FC so you are thinking more with the big head. And most importantly, always be prepared to walk if things are not as you want them to be. There are far more of them than there are of us. It's really not hard to just say NEXT!

Oh I know all this. I think I went in part because (a) she was really hot and (b) I was morbidly curious just how pro she was. Had she been more genuine I would have stayed notwithstanding the price. I would have even been ok with a CBJ. I think the lesson for me here was not so much about better screening; it was that I only have an appetite for amateur / true SBs. Much like in basketball, it is all about the college game for me.

[JZLizard]

You don't know what bored is until you CAN"T look for any new girls. Count your blessings guys.

Without knowing the specifics of your sciatica / foot problem, I will say the amount of info available on YouTube these days free of charge that can help is insane.

I've talked a lot about my love for exercise, but I haven't talked about how much I've always hated stretching. I enjoy the increased heart rate / endorphins and "pump" feeling I get from working out, but the before and after stretching was something I tended to skip when I was younger, until later I started paying the price for it.

The older I get the more I realize the importance of stretching and how many things can be healed with it. It takes some experimentation and self-education to figure out which stretches will solve a particular ailment, and for me its tough to motivate myself to get going with it, compared to the more "action-oriented" parts of working out, but I've seen so many of my own injuries that otherwise lingered for years disappear once I found the right stretch that I now force myself to do this before and after each gym session.

Basically I have to force myself to stretch adequately because I didn't form the right habits when I was younger, but now that I've seen the benefits I have strong motivation to keep it up.

A lot of times its deceptively simple -- figure out the stretch that affects the pain or issue the most, and there's your clue. Other times its not so straightforward, I. E. Stretching and strengthening certain hip / butt muscles in order to solve a knee problem, etc.

Stretching itself doesn't necessarily help you in bed directly (maybe lower back stretches would be the exception), but it does help you keep doing the exercises that will help in bed without downtime or injury.

[HollywoodGuy]

Any you guys reach fatigue yet? I got a few new POTS, but I haven't had the energy to go through the game and the whole process. Last night I had a M&G with a girl that was practically begging to meet up. I was more annoyed about going to meet her then I was excited about the opportunity for FC. We met up and she was a total bore. I felt that she should be paying me for my time. In some cases, I've lost interest in even the FC offers from my current roster. I had a hot 21 year old that wanted to come by for NSA last night and I wasn't up to it.

I'm wondering if my lack of energy has something to do with an incident that happened a couple days ago. I'm in line at the grocery and I see a girl in her 20's that looks familiar. I go home and log in to SA and it's the same girl. I chatted her up and true enough it was her. She didn't remember me from the grocery, but she gave me this spill about being short for rent next month. Is the bowl the new preferred dating site for all college age girls in the DMV?

You don't know what bored is until you CAN"T look for any new girls. Count your blessings guys.

[FTP1999]

I am not bored and looking for a few new good ones. Please PM me the ones you are bored with.

Ftp1999.

Any you guys reach fatigue yet? I got a few new POTS, but I haven't had the energy to go through the game and the whole process. Last night I had a M&G with a girl that was practically begging to meet up. I was more annoyed about going to meet her then I was excited about the opportunity for FC. We met up and she was a total bore. I felt that she should be paying me for my time. In some cases, I've lost interest in even the FC offers from my current roster. I had a hot 21 year old that wanted to come by for NSA last night and I wasn't up to it.

I'm wondering if my lack of energy has something to do with an incident that happened a couple days ago. I'm in line at the grocery and I see a girl in her 20's that looks familiar. I go home and log in to SA and it's the same girl. I chatted her up and true enough it was her. She didn't remember me from the grocery, but she gave me this spill about being short for rent next month. Is the bowl the new preferred dating site for all college age girls in the DMV?