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  1. #18235

    An easy answer

    Quote Originally Posted by MScoresEasy  [View Original Post]
    We have to put a stop this. Sorry to call you out ShyGuy, but the fact that this woman had the gall to ask to for a 40% tip with no extras, AND you obliged really disturbs me.

    I feel that I am a generous tipper, and normally tip 25% for GREAT service at a restaurant or for a satisfactory cab ride. Definitely not 40%.

    You can not demand a tip! The fact that she even had the balls to ask for another $20 ontop of the $20 you gave her, means other guys must be submitted to these demands as well. LETS PUT A STOP TO THIS!

    There are several posts about tipping protocols in this forum from more senior members than myself. I suggest all rookies read them.

    This situation calls for a $20 tip TOPS, if the massage was great.
    An experience I had at Beijing in Arlington years ago taught me a valuable lesson. Somewhere in the middle of the final act, the lady stepped over to my clothes, removed my wallet and said: How much money you have? She grabbed an indeterminate amount before I could stop her from doing more damage. She laughed. Fool that I was, I laughed, too, thinking she had taken a $10 bill but of course I later discovered that she had taken $100, on top of the reasonable tip I'd already provided.

    Lesson learned: I leave my wallet hidden and locked up in my car. I go into the spa carrying only what I am willing to invest in the experience. I keep house money plus $40 in one pocket, another $20 - $40 in the other. And I fold my trousers so the pockets are less readily accessible. If she wants more than I bring, I say what they say: "Next time. " Then I get the F out of there. Another lesson: Always better to tip at the end--perhaps obvious to most of you but it took me a while to figure this out, slow learner that I am.

    The ladies get away with the kind of extortion Mr. Scores describes because they know we do not want to be embarrassed and that we are feeling a little guilty and so just want to disengage and depart.

  2. #18234

    Abomination at Mt. Auburn!

    Quote Originally Posted by ShyGuy77  [View Original Post]
    Visited AMP on mt auburn in watertown yesterday. I have scene mixed reviews, but was walking by and figured I'd take my chances. 100 for 1 hour + table shower. I saw Amy. Massage was really good, but no extras AT ALL. A little roaming OTC. I tipped 20 because it was pricey to start and there were no extras. She demanded another 20 for tip, so I blew 140 total on a decent massage. Saw a much cuter you get girl on my way out. Will not repeat.
    We have to put a stop this. Sorry to call you out ShyGuy, but the fact that this woman had the gall to ask to for a 40% tip with no extras, AND you obliged really disturbs me.

    I feel that I am a generous tipper, and normally tip 25% for GREAT service at a restaurant or for a satisfactory cab ride. Definitely not 40%.

    You can not demand a tip! The fact that she even had the balls to ask for another $20 ontop of the $20 you gave her, means other guys must be submitted to these demands as well. LETS PUT A STOP TO THIS!

    There are several posts about tipping protocols in this forum from more senior members than myself. I suggest all rookies read them.

    This situation calls for a $20 tip TOPS, if the massage was great.

  3. #18233

    Sunshine

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeKool  [View Original Post]
    Strange, in my experience (I've been there 2 or 3 times) there never was even a doubt. I think the first time she told me (in so many words) to not tell anyone (oops) and made the "shhh" sign. I might have touched my junk and looked at her, but I don't think I verbally asked. If it makes a difference, I was there in the early afternoon on a weekday, and she never had to answer the phone even once. It'll continue to serve as my backup / quick spot for now. I actually like that there a bunch of other office in the building, so it's not obvious which one you are going to. It appears I'm just on lunch hour stopping at some business office or something (which I guess in a way I am.).
    I wasn't suggesting that nothing is available there (I had an experience similar to yours on a previous visit, with a different girl, when it was under a different name), I was just reporting on this visit with this particular provider. Perhaps there's no success to be had with Nancy, or maybe she was just being cautious and her menu opens up on a second visit (and sometimes those providers turn into ATF). I did not motion, grope, etc. To indicate I was interested in anything more than a massage and, based on her age / looks, I'm not sure it's worth the effort of a repeat visit to find out what her menu might include. The massage itself, though, was pretty good.

  4. #18232
    Senior Member


    Posts: 787

    I'm curious, though. A question asked respectfully

    Quote Originally Posted by BiggusBishus  [View Original Post]
    Regardless of many circumstances if she finishes me she's getting 40. I never walk in expecting to tip less. If she offers DIY then 20. If I tip over 40 I use the Angels (of Quincy) in her heyday rating system. You know it when you've had it.

    This is always a good topic to read as it gets churned every month or so. Highly recommended reading for the many posters that failed to RTFF before asking for help.
    Why tip 20 if it's DIY? I understand that, looking at it from the presumption of 40, it's a 20 drop from the 40 you expected to tip when you walked in. But if you paid 40 for the half-hour, and you admittedly entered the AMP.

    Expecting stress relief (unless you really did go there with the main goal being the massage), you've already dropped 40 to have a clothed lady rub you for 25 minutes. If I asked you, "Hey, which would you rather lose: 40 to get.

    A so-so massage or 40 to get a so-so massage followed by an additional, extra 20 to DIY?" would you actually pick the 2nd option? I think economics call it the sunk-cost fallacy, which basically means that once we're lost 40.

    On a massage with an UHE (unhappy ending), we don't feel so bad about tossing away another 20. But we should feel bad about it, unless we think that paying 60 for a massage followed by DIY is just as fair as paying 80 for a.

    Massage followed by HE.

    If that's the case, then the 20 tip is rational from a purely economic point of view. But if, like me, you would never ever walk into an AMP feeling that 60 for the DIY ending is just as fair as 80 for the masseuse-assisted HE, then.

    I respectfully submit that the 20 tip is not only not fair to you but. And here's my main point. If the ad that was posted featured cute Asian ladies in their 20's and hinted at satisfaction or stress relief, then you were.

    Bamboozled into dropping the door fee and expecting a much happier ending that you got. Me, I wouldn't reward that kind of come-on by the AMP; it just encourages them.

    Now, if the ad was neutral. G-rated massage promises, no pictures of young Asian gals (and let's add that the lady who worked on you was probably much older and less cute as well) - then, sure, I'll tip 10 for a decent massage.

    And 20 for a pretty good one. Otherwise. . .

    . . If I wouldn't be willing to return to that AMP and shell out another 60 for a DIY-ending again, then to leave that 20 tip means, by definition, that I did not get my money's worth.

    Just my 2 cents. We all have differing opinions, of course.

    Adobe.

  5. #18231

    2 for fram

    Hi guys went to elm on sun. In rain. Parked in the designated parking area. JRs post was too funny and completely accurate, I waited for the traffic light to turn green, before making my boom town walk. Went in and got a not to attractve, over weight but young attendant. Went for the 30 min. At $40 half drape but not bad massage. No hint of any extras, did see another girl that looked ok. Clean place but no door (curtins) walls don't go to ceiling. That's 2 really big no, nos for me thankfully I was the only one there. Tipped 10 and out in 30-35. Ironic, but as I drove off I thought to my self if any one else would notice the hand painted parking signs, so know we got an emergency! I go up the road to 873. The place looks closed as I park in the church lot next door. I try the door and I'm in, up the stairs.

    And I'm greeted by Cindy, pretty girl wearing a tee and short shorts, take the 30 at $40. Cindy did ok, really nice legs. I did a little roaming before flip. I pushed for something more then standard, no go. I had paid with a Benny, caught her eyeing my $60 change witch she had put on the table, she tried a half hearted up sell. I laughed and we had a good finish. 40 for tip and my emergency fixed. Nice girl on the younger side. Hope this helps W.

  6. #18230

    Watertown

    Quote Originally Posted by ShyGuy77  [View Original Post]
    Visited AMP on mt auburn in watertown yesterday. I have scene mixed reviews, but was walking by and figured I'd take my chances. 100 for 1 hour + table shower. I saw Amy. Massage was really good, but no extras AT ALL. A little roaming OTC. I tipped 20 because it was pricey to start and there were no extras. She demanded another 20 for tip, so I blew 140 total on a decent massage. Saw a much cuter you get girl on my way out. Will not repeat.
    She can demand all she wants. Lucky you gave her the 20 after you payed 100 to start with.

  7. #18229

    Took no effort to leave there happy for me

    Strange, in my experience (I've been there 2 or 3 times) there never was even a doubt. I think the first time she told me (in so many words) to not tell anyone (oops) and made the "shhh" sign. I might have touched my junk and looked at her, but I don't think I verbally asked. If it makes a difference, I was there in the early afternoon on a weekday, and she never had to answer the phone even once. It'll continue to serve as my backup / quick spot for now. I actually like that there a bunch of other office in the building, so it's not obvious which one you are going to. It appears I'm just on lunch hour stopping at some business office or something (which I guess in a way I am.).

    Quote Originally Posted by MickPK  [View Original Post]
    I made a trip to the "sure thing" a couple blocks north recently. Was just one older woman Nancy, not much to look at, probably someone's grandmother. I considered making a run for it, but it was late so I took the hour. Massage was very good and thorough. No teasing or hint of extras, just "all done" shortly after the flip. Not sure if she would offer HE or more with repeat visits, but I would consider returning just for the massage. Was interrupted 3 times by phone calls; oddly enough, she told at least two of the callers to come by at 9 pm (even though she had told me last appointment was 8:30), so unless one of them declined, it sounds like she's not shy about double booking.

  8. #18228
    Senior Member


    Posts: 372
    Quote Originally Posted by SMS54  [View Original Post]
    I think there is more than one on that street in that town. Could you give a clue as to which one it is, so I will never try that place? In this case, no tip would have been very appropriate, as the house fee is already 30-40 dollars over the norm. It should have been 60 or 70 house and 10 tip for no HE. 20 if you really enjoyed the massage and the place does not advertise on BP body rubs.
    I'm fairly sure they DON'T advertise on BP in the adult section. They have been semi-legit sometimes you win / sometimes you get nothing pretty much always.

    It's the only one on Mt. Auburn that has TS, close to the Star Market.

  9. #18227

    She got 40!

    Quote Originally Posted by SMS54  [View Original Post]
    I think there is more than one on that street in that town. Could you give a clue as to which one it is, so I will never try that place? In this case, no tip would have been very appropriate, as the house fee is already 30-40 dollars over the norm. It should have been 60 or 70 house and 10 tip for no HE. 20 if you really enjoyed the massage and the place does not advertise on BP body rubs.
    Inflated prices for no to little extras. It also kills repeat business.

    This time you get 30-40 mark up due to https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pk9-28HgxfEadding TS. Regionally I don't know what standard rate for 1 hr w TS?

    We knew in RI it was 60. So the service is marked up and you give.

    20% tip for basic service. Therapeutic masseuses don't shake you done after a massage session.

  10. #18226
    Quote Originally Posted by ShyGuy77  [View Original Post]
    Visited AMP on mt auburn in watertown yesterday. I have scene mixed reviews, but was walking by and figured I'd take my chances. 100 for 1 hour + table shower. I saw Amy. Massage was really good, but no extras AT ALL. A little roaming OTC. I tipped 20 because it was pricey to start and there were no extras. She demanded another 20 for tip, so I blew 140 total on a decent massage. Saw a much cuter you get girl on my way out. Will not repeat.
    I think there is more than one on that street in that town. Could you give a clue as to which one it is, so I will never try that place? In this case, no tip would have been very appropriate, as the house fee is already 30-40 dollars over the norm. It should have been 60 or 70 house and 10 tip for no HE. 20 if you really enjoyed the massage and the place does not advertise on BP body rubs.

  11. #18225

    Mt Auburn

    Visited AMP on mt auburn in watertown yesterday. I have scene mixed reviews, but was walking by and figured I'd take my chances. 100 for 1 hour + table shower. I saw Amy. Massage was really good, but no extras AT ALL. A little roaming OTC. I tipped 20 because it was pricey to start and there were no extras. She demanded another 20 for tip, so I blew 140 total on a decent massage. Saw a much cuter you get girl on my way out. Will not repeat.

  12. #18224

    Suggestions.

    From the West Coast and visiting Boston for a couple more days by Fenway. Any suggestion on a good place to checkout? Looking for a bit more thank a legit massage.

  13. #18223

    Wondering

    Quote Originally Posted by BigHead  [View Original Post]
    After the flip the ending was excellent. Total was 40+20=60.

    -BH.
    And.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigHead  [View Original Post]
    All I am saying is that 20 may be appropriate if it is negotiated upfront.

    -BH.
    Finally

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Head  [View Original Post]
    They do expect 40 and walking out with 20 is not nice.

    -BH.
    So, did you negotiate upfront? And before you answer I will add that I know the girl and she is sweet and doubt she would take $20 willingly.

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  15. #18221

    I like to keep it simple

    Regardless of many circumstances if she finishes me she's getting 40. I never walk in expecting to tip less. If she offers DIY then 20. If I tip over 40 I use the Angels (of Quincy) in her heyday rating system. You know it when you've had it.

    This is always a good topic to read as it gets churned every month or so. Highly recommended reading for the many posters that failed to RTFF before asking for help.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adobe  [View Original Post]
    Guys, can't resist adding my 2 cents here. If I pay for a half-hour massage and the gal gives me reasonable tease, reasonable UTC roaming on top, and performs the release with a bit more subtlety than a human jackhammer.

    Then I will tip 40. If she's really skilled and allows a bit of UTC with perhaps a view, I might tip 60. That's for a 1/2-hour massage, so the total would be as little as 40+40 or as much as 50+60, a range of 80 to 110.

    That's not an unreasonable amount, especially when there are halfway decent-looking ladies who offer far more than a clothed 10-minute HE for the same total fare.

    On the other hand. Which doesn't happen often at a well run AMP. I've shelled out 40 for the 1/2-hour and had a gal refuse any UTC roaming. And the HE was performed quickly and roughly, without taking any instruction at all.

    I'll still tip 40 in that case, but definitely not 60.

    Where I might consider tipping less than 40 - and I'm a pussy about this, I admit it. Is when the gal interrupts the massage several times during the half-hour. Although the main reason for my visit to an AMP is for the finish.

    I also genuinely enjoy the relaxing massage. If the lady has left once, twice, and even a third time, what I start to think about is how much time will be left for the HE after the flip, and if the lady will interrupt the fun, too.

    To go answer the door. That's not very relaxing and not very sensual. So I suppose it's possible for a lady to offer an "excellent" ending in the last 5 minutes but to have performed a distracted, terrible massage that was.

    Constantly interrupted. I'd probably tip 30 in a situation like that. If there was no UTC roaming, lots of interruptions, and just a quick. But well performed - 5-minute happy ending. To me, the 20 sounds a little low, but if.

    There was no roaming, then a total of 60 for a clothed, interrupted five-minute HE is not outrageously low, IMHO. (There was a young lady who used to visit Boston, in her 20's, large perky ta-ta's, who offered a topless

    massage with lots and lots of teasing right from the start, and of course a happy ending, and the fee for a half-hour of her time was 80. Compared to her, a total of 60 isn't too unreasonable.).

    Adobe.

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