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  1. #7273

    The Sheriff of Nashvilleham

    Quote Originally Posted by EricJones21  [View Original Post]
    How'd you get that?
    The Sheriff website lists recent arrests. After selecting one, you can click on further links for warrants, prior arrests, etc.

    -Jeepster1.

    http://dcso.nashville.gov/

  2. #7272

    Chelsea

    Saw Chelsea with SBL yesterday. I always use SBL as a last resort, and I don't know why. I hate CBJ, but the dreams are always stellar. I saw Brooklyn leaving the incall as I was getting there. She's really hot as well. Smaller than I thought she would be.

    This is my fourth time with SBL, Jessica and Chelsea. Want to see Sonya, bad. As usual, CBJ but the set up was easy and friendly, and the damage is worth getting a drug free, safe dream.

  3. #7271

    Candy Redd

    Just a heads up, guys. I hear Candy Redd is heading to Nashville this week. I haven't had the pleasure of her company yet, but she gets rave reviews.

    http://candyreddtheplaymate.escortbook.com

    I for one am going to give her a reason to visit more often.

  4. #7270

    Wow

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeepster1  [View Original Post]
    This is a quote describing probable cause in a recent Nashville case. Basically the lady was mirandized but talked anyway.

    -Jeepster1.

    "STATE OF TENNESSEE, COUNTY OF DAVIDSON

    AFFIDAVIT

    PROSTITUTION

    T.C.A. 39-13-513

    Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, (Select one) _x__ Commissioner, ___ Metropolitan General Sessions Judge, the prosecutor named above and made oath in due form of law that (Select one) __x_ he ___ she (Select one) ___ personally observed __x_ has probable cause to believe that the defendant named above on 05/11/2015 in Davidson County, did intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly engage in prostitution. The probable cause is as follows:

    Officers responded to 656 xxx xxx Dr, apartment xx in response to a Back page prostitution operation.

    Detectives received verbal consent to enter the apartment. After being read her Miranda rights and stating that she understood them, the defendant stated that she had a Back page ad for prostitution. She stated that she conducted a deal earlier today and the customer had gotten angry and left. While on the scene, detectives located the ad on Back page and called the number to the only phone in the room. Detectives received written consent to search the room. A pill bottle was located and she stated it was hers. It contained approximately .3 grams of a white powdery substance. This was field tested with a positive result for cocaine base by Detective Cantrell. Numerous cut plastic straws were located throughout the apartment. These are consistent with snorting illegal narcotics.

    ESignature

    ________________________________________

    Prosecutor: Floyd W Brown Jr 00008902"
    How'd you get that?

  5. #7269

    Here's how one arrest went down

    Quote Originally Posted by RustyKuntz  [View Original Post]
    As you can see by the Lavergne case, LEO can do just about anything to bust someone. LEO are professionals and are trained to use, in some cases abuse, laws to their advantage. Most people have no clue about law and when confronted by LEO they are in an unfair battle so to speak. They get intimidated by LEO and will basically tell on themselves. Some will just admit what they are doing or give consent to search in hopes that LEO will take it easy on them, therefore no warrant is needed. Also, most people don't have or are not willing to spend the money to hire a good attorney to fight a case. A good attorney can at least get a charge reduced, if not dismissed, and will also be able to get evidence illegally obtained thrown out. I'm sure in the Franklin cases, LEO got some of their info from the mongers.
    This is a quote describing probable cause in a recent Nashville case. Basically the lady was mirandized but talked anyway.

    -Jeepster1.

    "STATE OF TENNESSEE, COUNTY OF DAVIDSON

    AFFIDAVIT

    PROSTITUTION

    T.C.A. 39-13-513

    Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, (Select one) _x__ Commissioner, ___ Metropolitan General Sessions Judge, the prosecutor named above and made oath in due form of law that (Select one) __x_ he ___ she (Select one) ___ personally observed __x_ has probable cause to believe that the defendant named above on 05/11/2015 in Davidson County, did intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly engage in prostitution. The probable cause is as follows:

    Officers responded to 656 xxx xxx Dr, apartment xx in response to a Back page prostitution operation.

    Detectives received verbal consent to enter the apartment. After being read her Miranda rights and stating that she understood them, the defendant stated that she had a Back page ad for prostitution. She stated that she conducted a deal earlier today and the customer had gotten angry and left. While on the scene, detectives located the ad on Back page and called the number to the only phone in the room. Detectives received written consent to search the room. A pill bottle was located and she stated it was hers. It contained approximately .3 grams of a white powdery substance. This was field tested with a positive result for cocaine base by Detective Cantrell. Numerous cut plastic straws were located throughout the apartment. These are consistent with snorting illegal narcotics.

    ESignature

    ________________________________________

    Prosecutor: Floyd W Brown Jr 00008902"

  6. #7268

    Outside room

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeepster1  [View Original Post]
    In general, it's not too unusual to be asked to supply the phone number that's associated with a credit card.

    I can't say whether that's common at hotels, though. I usually pre-book so my procedure may be a little different from what the ladies experience.

    --Jeepster1.
    I called I friend of mine that is a lawyer and asked the legality of this. He said it really is all on the fact that the rooms where outside and in view. Multipul men going in and out of the same room over a day or so is enough "probable cause" for a judge who is on board with a crack down on the hobby to issue one. Now as far as how they are able to prove anything. His guess is they probably ether find drugs or just a nervous guy and push him to tell them what's going on or they will put it all on him. Usually offering him a "deal" with just the sitation off the record so to say. If nothing is confessed there really is nothing they can do. Unless drugs are found. But that leads to a whole nother string of questions / problems. This is some what a fact / his oppinion of what is going on with it.

  7. #7267

    Franklin sucks now

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeepster1  [View Original Post]
    In general, it's not too unusual to be asked to supply the phone number that's associated with a credit card.

    I can't say whether that's common at hotels, though. I usually pre-book so my procedure may be a little different from what the ladies experience.

    --Jeepster1.
    I know a provider that has a friend at a motel in Franklin, lets her pay cash, that she called for a room the other day. She was warned not to come. Another provider that usually works down here asked to relocate to the airport. I'm pretty much afraid to do anything down here.

  8. #7266

    Phone numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by VanillaStick  [View Original Post]
    That doesn't seem legal either. Also, I travel a lot for work, I'm not asked for my phone number when I check into hotels. If I was I sure as heck wouldn't give it to them.
    In general, it's not too unusual to be asked to supply the phone number that's associated with a credit card.

    I can't say whether that's common at hotels, though. I usually pre-book so my procedure may be a little different from what the ladies experience.

    --Jeepster1.

  9. #7265

    The outside entrance problem

    Quote Originally Posted by VanillaStick  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the info guys, I guess that makes since about the outside enterance, but doesn't seem legal.
    Outside entrances make it ridiculously easy to observe activity in a room, without LEO even getting out of their cars.

    Further, they can legally stand outside the room (a public area) and listen to any loud activity or conversation through the thin walls; they can legally look in the windows if curtains aren't fully drawn.

    The Franklin PD has stated repeatedly that they are aware of hobby activity and will prosecute. A a risky room choice makes their job that much easier.

    -Jeepster1.

  10. #7264

    Hotels helping

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeepster1  [View Original Post]
    An interesting report from RonSwanson might shed some light on the Franklin bust methodology:

    http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1379479

    -Jeepster1.
    That doesn't seem legal either. Also, I travel a lot for work, I'm not asked for my phone number when I check into hotels. If I was I sure as heck wouldn't give it to them.

  11. #7263

    Info

    Quote Originally Posted by RustyKuntz  [View Original Post]
    True about what you say Jeepster, I did fail to mention that in my post.
    Thanks for the info guys, I guess that makes since about the outside enterance, but doesn't seem legal.

  12. #7262

    The burden of proof

    Quote Originally Posted by BnaGuy  [View Original Post]
    I have zero days in law school, but I sure thought there had to be some evidence (as opposed to suspicion) of illegal activity to obtain a warrant. I thought a warrant was required to enter and search. Reminds me of the Lavergne case where an officer at a stop light looked over and noticed a female in another car looked like a face he had seen on backpage so that was a reason to arrest her and then go back to her motel room and arrest her roommate. If that is our legal system, folks, we sure ain't free.
    Let's consider the Franklin PD perspective for a moment.

    1. This is typically a misdemeanor charge. Perhaps a fairly small amount of proof is enough to make an arrest?

    2. Even if a charge is eventually dismissed, an arrest has the desired effect of running a provider out of town (back to Nashville, anyway).

    3. Publicized arrests serve as an effective deterrent to other providers who might consider visiting Franklin.

    4. An officer with sufficient training can ask leading questions that cause a provider or client to self-incriminate. Simply telling the suspect that "I can get a warrant" may be enough to convince a naive provider to allow a room search.

    5. Once in the room, the typical laundry list of evidence (cash, condoms, drugs), combined with a BP ad and multiple observed visitors, should be enough to get a provider arrested. When two providers are found to be traveling together they seem to pile on the trafficking charge, as they are accused of pimping each other out.

    So, while LEO activity like this is counter to our interests, it would not appear to be a severe trampling of the detainees' rights.

    The trafficking charge, however, seems to be more of a grey area. Does anyone know if an appeals court has looked at the legality of charging peers (not pimps) under the trafficking statutes?

    -Jeepster1.

  13. #7261

    Info

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeepster1  [View Original Post]
    An interesting report from RonSwanson might shed some light on the Franklin bust methodology:

    http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1379479

    -Jeepster1.
    Interesting info. Thanks for sharing. I can believe it and I am not the conspiracy theory type. Traveling women are going to have to resort (pun intended) to airBnB.

  14. #7260
    Quote Originally Posted by BnaGuy  [View Original Post]
    I have zero days in law school, but I sure thought there had to be some evidence (as opposed to suspicion) of illegal activity to obtain a warrant. I thought a warrant was required to enter and search. Reminds me of the Lavergne case where an officer at a stop light looked over and noticed a female in another car looked like a face he had seen on backpage so that was a reason to arrest her and then go back to her motel room and arrest her roommate. If that is our legal system, folks, we sure ain't free.
    As you can see by the Lavergne case, LEO can do just about anything to bust someone. LEO are professionals and are trained to use, in some cases abuse, laws to their advantage. Most people have no clue about law and when confronted by LEO they are in an unfair battle so to speak. They get intimidated by LEO and will basically tell on themselves. Some will just admit what they are doing or give consent to search in hopes that LEO will take it easy on them, therefore no warrant is needed. Also, most people don't have or are not willing to spend the money to hire a good attorney to fight a case. A good attorney can at least get a charge reduced, if not dismissed, and will also be able to get evidence illegally obtained thrown out. I'm sure in the Franklin cases, LEO got some of their info from the mongers.

  15. #7259

    Hotels Helping LEO

    Quote Originally Posted by BnaGuy  [View Original Post]
    I have zero days in law school, but I sure thought there had to be some evidence (as opposed to suspicion) of illegal activity to obtain a warrant. I thought a warrant was required to enter and search. Reminds me of the Lavergne case where an officer at a stop light looked over and noticed a female in another car looked like a face he had seen on backpage so that was a reason to arrest her and then go back to her motel room and arrest her roommate. If that is our legal system, folks, we sure ain't free.
    An interesting report from RonSwanson might shed some light on the Franklin bust methodology:

    http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1379479

    -Jeepster1.

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