Escort Reports

[Jeepster1]

Thanks for the info guys, I guess that makes since about the outside enterance, but doesn't seem legal.

Outside entrances make it ridiculously easy to observe activity in a room, without LEO even getting out of their cars.

Further, they can legally stand outside the room (a public area) and listen to any loud activity or conversation through the thin walls; they can legally look in the windows if curtains aren't fully drawn.

The Franklin PD has stated repeatedly that they are aware of hobby activity and will prosecute. A a risky room choice makes their job that much easier.

-Jeepster1.

[VanillaStick]

An interesting report from RonSwanson might shed some light on the Franklin bust methodology:

http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1379479

-Jeepster1.

That doesn't seem legal either. Also, I travel a lot for work, I'm not asked for my phone number when I check into hotels. If I was I sure as heck wouldn't give it to them.

[VanillaStick]

True about what you say Jeepster, I did fail to mention that in my post.

Thanks for the info guys, I guess that makes since about the outside enterance, but doesn't seem legal.

[Jeepster1]

I have zero days in law school, but I sure thought there had to be some evidence (as opposed to suspicion) of illegal activity to obtain a warrant. I thought a warrant was required to enter and search. Reminds me of the Lavergne case where an officer at a stop light looked over and noticed a female in another car looked like a face he had seen on backpage so that was a reason to arrest her and then go back to her motel room and arrest her roommate. If that is our legal system, folks, we sure ain't free.

Let's consider the Franklin PD perspective for a moment.

1. This is typically a misdemeanor charge. Perhaps a fairly small amount of proof is enough to make an arrest?

2. Even if a charge is eventually dismissed, an arrest has the desired effect of running a provider out of town (back to Nashville, anyway).

3. Publicized arrests serve as an effective deterrent to other providers who might consider visiting Franklin.

4. An officer with sufficient training can ask leading questions that cause a provider or client to self-incriminate. Simply telling the suspect that "I can get a warrant" may be enough to convince a naive provider to allow a room search.

5. Once in the room, the typical laundry list of evidence (cash, condoms, drugs), combined with a BP ad and multiple observed visitors, should be enough to get a provider arrested. When two providers are found to be traveling together they seem to pile on the trafficking charge, as they are accused of pimping each other out.

So, while LEO activity like this is counter to our interests, it would not appear to be a severe trampling of the detainees' rights.

The trafficking charge, however, seems to be more of a grey area. Does anyone know if an appeals court has looked at the legality of charging peers (not pimps) under the trafficking statutes?

-Jeepster1.

[FunnyUy]

An interesting report from RonSwanson might shed some light on the Franklin bust methodology:

http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1379479

-Jeepster1.

Interesting info. Thanks for sharing. I can believe it and I am not the conspiracy theory type. Traveling women are going to have to resort (pun intended) to airBnB.

[RustyKuntz]

I have zero days in law school, but I sure thought there had to be some evidence (as opposed to suspicion) of illegal activity to obtain a warrant. I thought a warrant was required to enter and search. Reminds me of the Lavergne case where an officer at a stop light looked over and noticed a female in another car looked like a face he had seen on backpage so that was a reason to arrest her and then go back to her motel room and arrest her roommate. If that is our legal system, folks, we sure ain't free.

As you can see by the Lavergne case, LEO can do just about anything to bust someone. LEO are professionals and are trained to use, in some cases abuse, laws to their advantage. Most people have no clue about law and when confronted by LEO they are in an unfair battle so to speak. They get intimidated by LEO and will basically tell on themselves. Some will just admit what they are doing or give consent to search in hopes that LEO will take it easy on them, therefore no warrant is needed. Also, most people don't have or are not willing to spend the money to hire a good attorney to fight a case. A good attorney can at least get a charge reduced, if not dismissed, and will also be able to get evidence illegally obtained thrown out. I'm sure in the Franklin cases, LEO got some of their info from the mongers.

[Jeepster1]

I have zero days in law school, but I sure thought there had to be some evidence (as opposed to suspicion) of illegal activity to obtain a warrant. I thought a warrant was required to enter and search. Reminds me of the Lavergne case where an officer at a stop light looked over and noticed a female in another car looked like a face he had seen on backpage so that was a reason to arrest her and then go back to her motel room and arrest her roommate. If that is our legal system, folks, we sure ain't free.

An interesting report from RonSwanson might shed some light on the Franklin bust methodology:

http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1379479

-Jeepster1.

[Bna Guy]

It appears that in most of the cases where a provider was busted, it mentions that police were "acting on a tip" so someone most likely noticed mongers going in and out of same room and reported it. My guess is the tip came from a bored but alert 'security guy'. Also notice that in most cases regarding Franklin police, the media reports all are worded very similarly. They don't give the juicy details as to how LEO figured out what was going on in the room but all that is discovered once they have a strong suspicion what is taking place. They put things together and go 'take a look', if you will. During questioning and searching for evidence, the suspicions are confirmed. In most cases, providers probably overstayed at the hotel and drew attention to themselves. Smart providers will only stay at a certain place for a day or two and move on.

I have zero days in law school, but I sure thought there had to be some evidence (as opposed to suspicion) of illegal activity to obtain a warrant. I thought a warrant was required to enter and search. Reminds me of the Lavergne case where an officer at a stop light looked over and noticed a female in another car looked like a face he had seen on backpage so that was a reason to arrest her and then go back to her motel room and arrest her roommate. If that is our legal system, folks, we sure ain't free.

[RustyKuntz]

In each of the Franklin cases the providers were staying at motels with outside room entrances. It was easy for LEO to watch the comings and goings of all involved.

Hotel rooms with inside hallways are somewhat more difficult to observe.

-Jeepster1.

True about what you say Jeepster, I did fail to mention that in my post.

[SquirtMomma39]

What up Nashvegas mongers I was doing a little lurking over on the Memphis forum and came across this review. As the title states the details our fellow hobbyist gives about his encounter are humorous (at least to me). As I read the details I could only picture myself being in the predicament this hobbyist experienced. I'm almost certain he wasn't trying to get a laugh but I chuckled. My hat goes of to him though because at least he did a review and hopefully saved another brother. Ok Nashvegas mongers stay safe and I'm out.

Toftt Sunday.

http://memphis.backpage.com/FemaleEs...29851/11942342

As I love slim chicks I seen her ad and I like a cute face. Get to her notel on Lamar and I'm like you aren't the girl in the pic. She said I'm not the first chick but the other three. The other girl was some where else, sure. Dark skinned with the mo-hawk. Okay visit at first BBBJ then the drama. She bent over for k9 but didn't wet herself or no lube. I was like it's not going to fit dry. Her reply I don't want to get wet this is for money not for enjoyment. Ah crap my day keeps getting worse. Tried mish but dry pussy won't do for me so I was like fuck it. Nice body, okay face, tight box and descent BBBJ. And wouldn't let me wet it either. Tried to talk some sense into her but no luck. She doesn't want to like having sex for money. Okay cool with me but you just wasted an hr of my time and. 8 of my cash. Whoever is putting some of these ladies in the game done fucked their heads up. It's a damn shame, time to stick to the tried and true. No review no call from me. No more toftt.

[Jeepster1]

It appears that in most of the cases where a provider was busted, it mentions that police were "acting on a tip" so someone most likely noticed mongers going in and out of same room and reported it. My guess is the tip came from a bored but alert 'security guy'. Also notice that in most cases regarding Franklin police, the media reports all are worded very similarly. They don't give the juicy details as to how LEO figured out what was going on in the room but all that is discovered once they have a strong suspicion what is taking place. They put things together and go 'take a look', if you will. During questioning and searching for evidence, the suspicions are confirmed. In most cases, providers probably overstayed at the hotel and drew attention to themselves. Smart providers will only stay at a certain place for a day or two and move on.

In each of the Franklin cases the providers were staying at motels with outside room entrances. It was easy for LEO to watch the comings and goings of all involved.

Hotel rooms with inside hallways are somewhat more difficult to observe.

-Jeepster1.

[TenderFoot]

Very astute observation Mr. R. Kuntz. Thank you.

[RustyKuntz]

Excuse my ignorance, but how is this happening without someone on the inside? How does LE know what is actually taking place once inside the room? I thought they had to witness actual money and services exchanged or offered. I would like to know so to stay safe myself.

Thanks.

Mark.

It appears that in most of the cases where a provider was busted, it mentions that police were "acting on a tip" so someone most likely noticed mongers going in and out of same room and reported it. My guess is the tip came from a bored but alert 'security guy'. Also notice that in most cases regarding Franklin police, the media reports all are worded very similarly. They don't give the juicy details as to how LEO figured out what was going on in the room but all that is discovered once they have a strong suspicion what is taking place. They put things together and go 'take a look', if you will. During questioning and searching for evidence, the suspicions are confirmed. In most cases, providers probably overstayed at the hotel and drew attention to themselves. Smart providers will only stay at a certain place for a day or two and move on.

[VanillaStick]

Here's the media release. Note that her bond is $7 k, the lowest I've seen in a while in the southern county. Maybe she will be back in action soon?

I would suggest that providers and clients should avoid the extended-stay place mentioned in the report!

http://franklinpdnews.com/2015/05/07...s-in-franklin/

-Jeepster1.

Excuse my ignorance, but how is this happening without someone on the inside? How does LE know what is actually taking place once inside the room? I thought they had to witness actual money and services exchanged or offered. I would like to know so to stay safe myself.

Thanks.

Mark.

[SpareTime70]

I've stayed away because I heard her screening process is pretty tough. Multiple references in addition to a P411 with several OK's.

I will admit is has been a while since I was first screened by Cherisha Star, but I don't recall her screening process being that difficult and she verified me solely on P411. I do have several oks on P411, so maybe that made a difference for her, but I did not have to provide additional provider references, and certainly not provide my name, race number, employments, etc that a couple of the ladies require to meet. I appreciate safety and discretion, I am very easily spooked, but it sort of defeats the purpose of the boards and verification sites to reveal your entire identity to a provider, whose identity remains anonymous.