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  1. #17898

    Wendy

    I saw Wendy yesterday and she wasn't at her bestr with me. Actually it was the worst time that I have had with her. She answered her phone and made appointments the entire time. Then she watched the clock and rushed me without giving me the full time. I have had some great sessions with her but after yesterday I will not return. There are too many other options.

  2. #17897
    Anyway aside from people getting freak out of getting caught and stuff.

    I decided to visit my good ole wendy in wakefield, she has a worker name cici english is ok cute lady slim age 35 and her massage skills is awesome.

    Please note if you have a weak back you better let her know cause she will put her knees on your back full weight and also she puts a towel on your back and if it wasnt for those
    towel those pointing knees of her will probly break me in half. I am now feeling it this morning. I opt for one hour and there was no rush and no tips was ask.

    Session ended with a good finish anyone who is a regular of wendy and if you don't like her workers she will note of it and make sure they won't return.

    But anyway 6+4 with tip and I was satisfied for the day as of my body was out of sync. Seniors can msg me for more info.

  3. #17896
    Quote Originally Posted by AmpExplorer  [View Original Post]
    Previous locations Yumi worked more was available.

    Wonder if she knew you from before you could get "grandfathered" in for extras? Or is she playing it safe in Norwood.

    Do not like places in residential areas from what it sounds like.

    Which place in norwood? Northern lights or place on RT 1 at gas station?
    I noticed it at Northern Lights. I'm still considering checking it out, but as I said seeing LEO parked in back of the place. (that one time) has made me reluctant to pull the trigger. Ill post something if I do. Now that RI is options are drying up and over used, its about time I find something a little closer to home.

  4. #17895

    What happens to the cases?

    Quote Originally Posted by SpermSac  [View Original Post]
    There are those who are so gullible that they think every cop tells the truth. ROFLMAO.
    Most cases end up being taken care of in court. Not sure if any of these cases ever have a trial. Does anyone know? Do the girls and mama san get deported?

    Heard that the places shut down and just open elsewhere.

  5. #17894
    Quote Originally Posted by CMeLater19  [View Original Post]
    Anyone know of any FS spas in qtown?

    And what's the going rate these days?

    Thanks in advance.
    Ampfan228 just made a very informative post a few pages back on options in Qtown. You have to do your part by at least putting in some effort to reading this thread. So much info in here. Look and you shall find!

  6. #17893

    Cops lie?

    Quote Originally Posted by Katokay  [View Original Post]
    The thing that outweighs all of this law conversation is that cops lie. They make things up, plant evidence, etc etc. Many times they justify this because they believe you are guilty and don't care about the law.
    There are those who are so gullible that they think every cop tells the truth. ROFLMAO.

  7. #17892
    Senior Member


    Posts: 279

    Report. Chi Bodyworks

    Lily is a young, shapely masseuse at Chi Bodyworks. Friendly, no-rush attitude, face 6/10 body 7/10. Good, vigorous bodyrub, HE with UTC roaming on top, OTC below. . 45/. 4 for 1/2 hr. Walk-in, 3 girls working midday, and was even offered a look at them before choosing (I declined, went w Lily right off).

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBoy69  [View Original Post]
    HD, when in newton, try Chi Bodyworks in chestnut hill on rt 9 W 6179930317 ask for michelle (boss) and if she works that day. You're in luck, if not there are a few amy, alice. Joy. Always left happy but no FS. Jb.

  8. #17891

    Cops lie

    The thing that outweighs all of this law conversation is that cops lie. They make things up, plant evidence, etc etc. Many times they justify this because they believe you are guilty and don't care about the law.

  9. #17890
    Senior Member


    Posts: 279
    Quote Originally Posted by HowardSprague  [View Original Post]
    But my understanding has been that stop and identify does not require a reasonable suspicion as cops can always stop you (and often search) based on reasonable suspicion, hence the statute to give them even more leeway.
    Absolutely, HS, when I said 'exception' I also meant to their burden of proof. Thanks for clarifying and for good advice!

  10. #17889
    Quote Originally Posted by Jolem  [View Original Post]
    Subject to HS' answer, here's Wikipedia: ' "Stop and identify" statutes are statute laws in the United States that authorize police to legally obtain the identification of someone whom they reasonably suspect has committed a crime. If the person is not reasonably suspected of committing a crime, they are not required to provide identification, even in states with stop and identify statutes. '.

    Police can 1) arrest you, 2) detain you, 3) have a consensual, voluntary conversation with you, or 4) ignore you. To be detained, they must have "a reasonable suspicion" that you committed, or will commit, a crime. If they detain you, you are NOT obliged to answer questions. An exception: stop and identify laws specifically require you to provide identification to police when detained.

    HS' advice is spot on: Offer no information, and politely ask if you are being detained, or are free to leave.
    That pretty much says it all. But my understanding has been that stop and identify does not require a reasonable suspicion as cops can always stop you (and often search) based on reasonable suspicion, hence the statute to give them even more leeway.

    As with anything in law, there are RARELY cut and dried answers. There are always variables. That certainly applies to stops and searches.

    We are enveloped in a shell of legal innocence. Cops look for cracks (anything unlawful) in that shell as a way to legally get to you. Whether it was a crack or just a mark on the shell is determined by the courts and affects the admissibility of the evidence the cops find inside that shell. So, they can't really bust you for walking out of an AMP because they don't have any evidence of a crime (though that's not what they'll tell you if they do stop you), but if you stumble they can say they suspected public intoxication. If your car has a cracked taillight, they can stop you for faulty equipment. Those are valid excuses for a stop allowing them to start probing.

  11. #17888
    Senior Member


    Posts: 279
    Quote Originally Posted by PwHerman  [View Original Post]
    HS, could you please shed a little light on this sentence. I think it may be important and get glossed over.
    Subject to HS' answer, here's Wikipedia: ' "Stop and identify" statutes are statute laws in the United States that authorize police to legally obtain the identification of someone whom they reasonably suspect has committed a crime. If the person is not reasonably suspected of committing a crime, they are not required to provide identification, even in states with stop and identify statutes. '.

    Police can 1) arrest you, 2) detain you, 3) have a consensual, voluntary conversation with you, or 4) ignore you. To be detained, they must have "a reasonable suspicion" that you committed, or will commit, a crime. If they detain you, you are NOT obliged to answer questions. An exception: stop and identify laws specifically require you to provide identification to police when detained.

    HS' advice is spot on: Offer no information, and politely ask if you are being detained, or are free to leave.

  12. #17887

    Please clarify

    Quote Originally Posted by HowardSprague  [View Original Post]
    And remember, Massachusetts does not have a stop and identify statute.
    HS, could you please shed a little light on this sentence. I think it may be important and get glossed over.

    Thanks.

    Pw.

  13. #17886
    Quote Originally Posted by SpermSac  [View Original Post]
    Regardless of whether they get a conviction in court or not the damage gets done and LEO still wins.

    They dragged the clients and the providers into court. The papers have pasted their faces in print with headlines and the accusation has been made.

    Damage done. You'll never hear that the case was tossed out or the accused found innocent. That's doesn't make headlines but you might find it tucked away on page 33.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kozmo  [View Original Post]
    I have a good friend who ran AMP's years ago, and believe it or not, some undercover officers posing as clients to sting a provider absolutely do enjoy the entire session before calling in the swarm. Not in every case, but once she got busted and went through the whole court proceeding charged with offering for a fee. While I was escorting her into the court, she explained to me that not one, but several officers who raided her spa were in fact repeat customers. The "uc" who made the arrest actually enjoyed his extra before blowing the whistle. Absolutely true. Whole case went to trial for a year, got thrown out- no warrant to search, and they destroyed the place. On another incident, she was kindly asked to " come down to the station " to talk with the uncle, whereas she was shown photos of her clients entering and exiting her spa, her ads from BP, etc. And reviews also. She was kindly asked to shut down and leave with no issue, and did so respectively. Funny thing is- the uncle also explained to her that both he and several other associates wearing the same uniform actually frequented her spa, and loved it. Pressure from the town folk was directed towards closing the spa, and it was handled in a polite manner. Uncle told her " we know what's going on"- you get the picture. Some spa owners are asked nicely to close, and they quietly do so. Some get raided. Some girls are careful, and some girls are so blinded by greed, they will proposition any client- and bring problems. Actually quite a few uncles frequent these spa's, and why not- at the end of the day they are still men. On another note, having seen evidence against one AMP- I read that customers were stopped after leaving the spa, like a mile down the road or so- then they were questioned. Think you can just say" Only massage!" and they will leave you alone?? Guess again. Customers who were stopped were told point blank " I Know why you were here" and before you tell me " Sir, I only had a massage- my back was hurting" The next response was " fine". " Oh, and by the way, if WE send a "uc" in the spa and he gets propositioned, we are shutting the place down. " Then, we will charge YOU with giving false information". This scenario generated multiple " okay, I got a he", and evidence was collected against the spa. You can just imagine the problems this would cause at home when mama checks the mail before you and sees the letter from the court. "Honey, . What's this all about?
    "Officer, am I being detained or am I free to go?

    Say nothing. Just witnessing you leaving a building is NOT evidence of a crime in and of itself (in these cases). "We know what you were doing. " No. They suspect. Suspicion is not proof. It's all bullshit intended to intimidate.

    Remember, your human nature to comply and please a questioner combined with a programmed deference to authority is your worst weakness. Unless you're caught in the act, they have nothing on you. They don't KNOW anything.

    Be polite and walk away. Making any statement can only hurt you. You have a right to refuse to give testimony which might incriminate you. Silence is NOT indicative of guilt.

    And remember, Massachusetts does not have a stop and identify statute.

  14. #17885

    FS qtown

    Anyone know of any FS spas in qtown?

    And what's the going rate these days?

    Thanks in advance.

  15. #17884

    Damage is done

    Quote Originally Posted by Kozmo  [View Original Post]
    I have a good friend who ran AMP's years ago, and believe it or not, some undercover officers posing as clients to sting a provider absolutely do enjoy the entire session before calling in the swarm. Not in every case, but once she got busted and went through the whole court proceeding charged with offering for a fee. While I was escorting her into the court, she explained to me that not one, but several officers who raided her spa were in fact repeat customers. The "uc" who made the arrest actually enjoyed his extra before blowing the whistle. Absolutely true. Whole case went to trial for a year, got thrown out- no warrant to search, and they destroyed the place. On another incident, she was kindly asked to " come down to the station " to talk with the uncle, whereas she was shown photos of her clients entering and exiting her spa, her ads from BP, etc. And reviews also. She was kindly asked to shut down and leave with no issue, and did so respectively. Funny thing is- the uncle also explained to her that both he and several other associates wearing the same uniform actually frequented her spa, and loved it. Pressure from the town folk was directed towards closing the spa, and it was handled in a polite manner. Uncle told her " we know what's going on"- you get the picture. Some spa owners are asked nicely to close, and they quietly do so. Some get raided. Some girls are careful, and some girls are so blinded by greed, they will proposition any client- and bring problems. Actually quite a few uncles frequent these spa's, and why not- at the end of the day they are still men. On another note, having seen evidence against one AMP- I read that customers were stopped after leaving the spa, like a mile down the road or so- then they were questioned. Think you can just say" Only massage!" and they will leave you alone?? Guess again. Customers who were stopped were told point blank " I Know why you were here" and before you tell me " Sir, I only had a massage- my back was hurting" The next response was " fine". " Oh, and by the way, if WE send a "uc" in the spa and he gets propositioned, we are shutting the place down. " Then, we will charge YOU with giving false information". This scenario generated multiple " okay, I got a he", and evidence was collected against the spa. You can just imagine the problems this would cause at home when mama checks the mail before you and sees the letter from the court. "Honey, . What's this all about?
    Regardless of whether they get a conviction in court or not the damage gets done and LEO still wins.

    They dragged the clients and the providers into court. The papers have pasted their faces in print with headlines and the accusation has been made.

    Damage done. You'll never hear that the case was tossed out or the accused found innocent. That's doesn't make headlines but you might find it tucked away on page 33.

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