The Rat Trap

[BuffGuy111]

Those of you who have been around know the risk of being stood up by a provider as well as providers know the risk of being stood up by a monger. What I can't figure out is why so many of you guys continue to call a provider who has a reputation of doing it and you whine about it? Camera 3 has given advice on this subject on numerous occasions. Always have a couple back up plans in place. You never know if it was something you said or did to spook the provider especially if it's your first time seeing them. Some guys can get overly anxious and not even realize they are being pushy or demanding because you're about to bang a hot chick like Michele or whoever. I have been guilty of being like that in my early mongering days. Just relax and wait on the provider if you have the time and if you don't move on to the next hot chick on your list. I've even had to take a provider to lunch to show her I was legit before I got to dream with them. That's how bad I wanted her. My point is, follow C3's advice and make sure you have a back up plan so you're not writing a negative review with anger and blue balls. There's plenty of good Providers in our area and on this forum.

Just my. 02.

Stay safe, BG111.

[Chris5]

If you are not concentrating on safety and important stuff then they are a liability. Idk about you but I sure have a hell of alot to loose so I think safety should be at the top of everyone's list.

I truly appreciate your insight on some of these new SPs. You shed more light on areas that I had no clue about, I am sure many of us didn't know how shallow their mentality is, and that they will compromise all of us just to get what they want.

Stay safe everyone.

Xoxo.

Paige.

The younger SP is typically MY type. They are young with a fresh face and fresh bodies. I am not putting them down at all I was just trying to say they have a different type of thinking mentality. In there eyes they can do whatever the hell they want because they're young and hott!! FAST CASH!! These ladies are making more cash than they ever had in there life! I respect you Paige as I have never seen a bad review on you. You are more business like but the newer.

Girls who I truly LOVE fucking, but can barely count to fucking 10! LOL! And God bless them because I love them all!! The good and the bad! I know an SP who will see ANYONE with cash! No references needed. She has every name brand purse I have ever seen and a wallet always full of cash!! I ask her is she safe and she says Chris I'm having the time of my fucking life! I'm heading to Vegas this weekend and FUCK there as well and make even more cash! LOL! True story. Just a different mindset sweetheart. No one on this board has to agree with me but thanks for at least LISTENING to me.

[Dahlia718]

I have had more than one. Gent get angry over a reference request or my refusal to barter. I prefer not to wear shiny silver bangles.

If you are not concentrating on safety and important stuff then they are a liability. Idk about you but I sure have a hell of alot to loose so I think safety should be at the top of everyone's list.

I truly appreciate your insight on some of these new SPs. You shed more light on areas that I had no clue about, I am sure many of us didn't know how shallow their mentality is, and that they will compromise all of us just to get what they want.

Stay safe everyone.

Xoxo.

Paige.

[DreamForever69]

#1240.

HeWolf47.

Senior Member.

Posts: 128.

Michele 1 L.

I really hate to report anything negative about this young lady, but I need to reveal my negative experience. It has nothing to do with her performance which must spectacular based on the many positive reviews in this forum. It has to do with her blowing off a client with whom she had made an appointment, then not being the least bit conciliatory about it. It seems like Michele doesn't understand that to us mongers, an appointment with a lady is the highlight of our day. These women may get laid several times a days but we get it only once a day and more likely less than that. Based upon the reviews on here, I knew that eventually I would like to see Michele, so I sent her references a few weeks ago and was cleared to see her whenever I was in Orlando. Yesterday happened to be that day, so I texted her and asked if she was available. She said yes, and a time was set for 45 minutes later. She said Okay. Several times while driving (I know, its illegal), I asked her what was the address? When I got to Wet and Wild, I again texted her for the address of the hotel. Did not hear anything at all until over two hours later when she says "I passed out. Sorry". Today we had a few texts back and forth as a concerted effort on my part not to post me any negative comments about Michele. I suggested that she read post #4182 in the Classified Ads-Member Discussion Forum. That was Vino's advice to Dallas, but is applicable to all providers. Unfortunately, Michele seems to think I'm being rude and the fact that she "has five times as many who bail on her" gives her the right to just blow me off. I am sorry that we do have lots of guys who do that to these ladies who provide us an essential service. No excuse on our part. I for one have never done that and never will. My parents taught me the Golden Rule. Basically, treat people the way you would like to be treated.

I tried to see Dallas numerous times to no avail and was given every excuse IF I even got an excuse from her. And reading the many bad reviews on Dallas just to SEE her, I am not the only one. Michele on the other hand, is professional through and through and never had a problem setting up an appointment and every session went smoothly. I have seen her many times and will see her many more in the future. One thing I have learned about Michele, she does not put up with Rudeness. If you Hewolf47 cursed her out through text or call, or even threatened her in any way, your chance with seeing her is done / caput / finished. The stories Michele has told me about the assholes in this hobby are ALMOST as precious as sessions with this Gorgeous Sweetheart.

[PaigeSweetStuf]

They are young, mostly in there early twenties and most have great spinner bodies and cute faces and they use what they have for the here and now. They are not concentrating on references and safety and all that other important real SP stuff. They could care less what you or I think.

If you are not concentrating on safety and important stuff then they are a liability. Idk about you but I sure have a hell of alot to loose so I think safety should be at the top of everyone's list.

I truly appreciate your insight on some of these new SPs. You shed more light on areas that I had no clue about, I am sure many of us didn't know how shallow their mentality is, and that they will compromise all of us just to get what they want.

Stay safe everyone.

Xoxo.

Paige.

[Camera3]

Roman,

Welcome to the best damn literary club in the US of A, including half of Alabama. You will find a wonderful group of romance novelists who are happy to write about their imaginary experiences. You will also find some guys that are totally full of shit, guys that are total time wasters, guys that are really teenage boys that can't get a date and, of course, the finest ladies anywhere. Pardon us if we don't answer you directly and just give you a list, but, frankly, we don't know which one of these you are. Frankly, if you spend about a half hour just RTFF you will find more intel on more imaginary ladies than you can possibly take advantage of, no matter how much time you have on your vacation, or convention, or whatever.

I would go a step further and say, if you just read the ad thread and cross reference some reviews you will find good intel. I'll go two steps further. If you can't get fucked in Orlando (in at least a couple of different ways) it is YOU.

The only thing we ask is that you please join the club by writing about your imaginary experiences, good and bad. Help others.

Play safe,

C3. (with three stars)

Hey guys I will be in town Wednesday through Saturday wanted to know who is safe and reliable. I will be around international drive. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Feel free to personal message me. Thanks again.

[Mosin Nagant]

So I get it, technically as SPs we are in competition for business, nothing wrong with a little friendly competition, or new competition might make you have step your game up but there are few things of late that have been bothersome to me. etc etc

Paige, I enjoyed reading your post. So many good and true points. Sad to see that some of your competitors don't understand that by you all coming together on USASG that you can also participate cooperatively! Several books etc written on this business model, typical example is a flea market. That being said, the "best" part is nonsense. Just like mongers benefit from regular SP's, the ladies do as well. Safety, consistency etc. Here are some things that work for me. Here's what makes up BEST and it is not about the act:

1. Reliability. Someone who either is always approachable or has an understandable schedule. An SP who tells me they have a day job so may not always be able to be contacted is reliable. As long as I can count on contact when necessary.

2. Attraction. As mentioned in your post, this is highly subjective. Some of it is physical attraction, a lot is mental. This explains why I tend to not frequent the young hotties, no cerebral connection. Ladies who actually use this for their financial plan, not their next fix or purse, are particularly hawt.

3. GFE. I want to feel like I am in a connected relationship during the visit. I haven't seen Brandii, but would count her as GFE. Like the GF that isn't ready to go "all the way" yet. Kissing, petting, tongue.

4. LTR. A general understanding, occasional forgiveness for a misstep on either end.

5. Adventure. Change things up every so often.

There may be others.

[ChoirBoy82]

Hi, first time post, I had the pleasure of having a dream with her. She is very nice and eager to please. She is very careful when you first arrive at the meet, a little cloak and dagger, but one has to understand that she too is letting it all hang out on a stranger. I was very pleased with the manor she conducted herself, very professional and clean. She is the one in the pics, and she told me she would be inviting new friends to join her. I dreamed with her in the Four Points hotel near wet & wild. Would definitely repeat. Coinage was $ HH. But well worth it.

If you ever make a second post, please DO NOT mention a specific hotel. Especially if it's her incall location. "Hotel near wet & wild" is good enough. No sense in getting her in trouble with hotel mgmt or LEO. Thanks.

[Chris5]

So I get it, technically as SPs we are in competition for business, nothing wrong with a little friendly competition, or new competition might make you have step your game up but there are few things of late that have been bothersome to me.

When a highly regarded SP reaches out to another new SP to introduce themselves I feel it is quite rude to ignore them. You probably won't get a second chance at that intro. The new SP may be the hot shit at the moment but with everything novelty wears off. There will come a point you may need referrals or references. You don't have to jump at their intro to you but acknowledgement of receiving would be more than cordial.

Lately there have been some new advertisers claiming to be THE BEST at whatever. Thats some big shoes to fill jumping on this board with some legends, women who have been providing A+ service for years in the hobby. I am not saying that these new SPs do not provide quality service but those are bold words. Not every SP is for everyone so there can't be any single one that is the best at everything everytime. I think reviews say more than your ads ever could.

With this being said white knighting average performance in hopes of getting discounts doesn't really help the community as whole. It may be good for the author and subject, but that is just selfish. An honest review is more beneficial to all involved. Constructive criticism can help an SP step up their game if needed. And after awhile when we all read these rave reviews by the same authors on those SPs that most either give average or subpar reviews the authors loose credibility within the community.

I don't claim to be the best at anything. I do claim to be a reliable, friendly, consistant, hot, smart SP that aims to please. I put safety an discretion at top of my list of priority for all those involved. SPs know that I am one of the most friendly and knowledgeable in this hobby, and very easy to approach. We need to look out for each other, its a sisterhood that may save one of our lives or from getting a new pair of shiny silver handcuffs. I am not saying we all have to be besties, as I do like a small hand full of you ladies better than the rest but as long as you have always treated me with respect I will do the same for you. There are plenty of mario coins and dicks to go around.

Just some food for thought.

Stay safe.

Xoxo.

Paige.

I really enjoyed reading this particular post by an SP. What I am about to say is strictly MY opinion alone and I do NOT speak for any other monger on this fantastic board that we are all so lucky to be apart of. We do indeed have a lot of more NEW SP'S coming on to the Orlando scene and I love that personally! However when an SP says that she is the BEST EVER I tend to kind of like that! LOL! Do us mongers really want a new SP who says "you know what I am not really all that good at sucking dick or fucking for that matter but I will give it a try and see how it pans out" NO! I want to hear that she is indeed the BEST!! Even if she's not I still enjoying hearing it and later verifying if for myself. I want a confident SP when I do my dreaming. I want her to believe that she will be the best I ever had, whether or not this actually happens is a completely different story but so what. LOL. The new younger SP today is all about having fun and partying all night, buying expensive shoes and purses and spending cash like there is no tomorrow. These NEW SP'S are NOT planning a retirement account with Morgan Stanley. They are making as much cash as they can for the here and the now and probably won't be around the hobby scene within the new couple of months. Fast cash and fast fucking is the motto for the NEW SP. They are young, mostly in there early twenties and most have great spinner bodies and cute faces and they use what they have for the here and now. They are not concentrating on references and safety and all that other important real SP stuff. They could care less what you or I think.

As far a white knighting for discounts, I personally LOVE discounts, If I am seeing an SP at least once a week guess what? I'm getting a discount or I will simply move on to the next girl who will give me that discount and there are hundreds and hundreds or SP here in the Orlando area. I have girls in the hobby that don't think there a SP but they are! They all want cash and mongers are the ones that have that cash and if a SP is charging $. 2 for a HH sessions and this monger sees her 3 or four times a month he absolutely should be discounted, now should those discounts include more favorable reviews? Absolutely not but guess what? What happens between a monger and an SP in private is there business and no one else. This monger can feel this new SP is truly the best he ever had! I take all mongers at there word, I'm not in the room so who cares. I want to read ALL reviews not just the ones that I disagree with and want to be critical. We all have seen crazy reviews on here that I truly enjoy reading. For a man we have an awesome hobby, we can have basically any girl we want for a donation. LOL.

I met a girl in Publix the other day who was 20 and hot as fuck, within 20 minutes of our conversation we start talking about blow jobs, and you know what she told me? She says I'm the BEST you will ever have! Most women that I dream with think there the best and God bless them all. This is an awesome hobby for guys and I love even meeting regular girls on the streets or at UCF and they all say there the best in bed, best this best that etc.

We should welcome this new young SP'S and its not my job to teach them, it's my job to fuck them. You say there are plenty of mario coins to go around and you are 100 percent correct, but the MONGER is in charge of who he spends those coins on. Life is the hobby world is good my fellow mongers.

[AncientOne]

Porkchopp just called out Rufus the Pimp on the unreliable, unprofessional, Dallas. See under Negative Escort reviews. When will ALL of you mongers get the message that this SP is bad news and that Rufus and Jazak are her pimps?

[Symone]

So I get it, technically as SPs we are in competition for business, nothing wrong with a little friendly competition, or new competition might make you have step your game up but there are few things of late that have been bothersome to me.

When a highly regarded SP reaches out to another new SP to introduce themselves I feel it is quite rude to ignore them. You probably won't get a second chance at that intro. The new SP may be the hot shit at the moment but with everything novelty wears off. There will come a point you may need referrals or references. You don't have to jump at their intro to you but acknowledgement of receiving would be more than cordial.

Lately there have been some new advertisers claiming to be THE BEST at whatever. Thats some big shoes to fill jumping on this board with some legends, women who have been providing A+ service for years in the hobby. I am not saying that these new SPs do not provide quality service but those are bold words. Not every SP is for everyone so there can't be any single one that is the best at everything everytime. I think reviews say more than your ads ever could.

With this being said white knighting average performance in hopes of getting discounts doesn't really help the community as whole. It may be good for the author and subject, but that is just selfish. An honest review is more beneficial to all involved. Constructive criticism can help an SP step up their game if needed. And after awhile when we all read these rave reviews by the same authors on those SPs that most either give average or subpar reviews the authors loose credibility within the community.

I don't claim to be the best at anything. I do claim to be a reliable, friendly, consistant, hot, smart SP that aims to please. I put safety an discretion at top of my list of priority for all those involved. SPs know that I am one of the most friendly and knowledgeable in this hobby, and very easy to approach. We need to look out for each other, its a sisterhood that may save one of our lives or from getting a new pair of shiny silver handcuffs. I am not saying we all have to be besties, as I do like a small hand full of you ladies better than the rest but as long as you have always treated me with respect I will do the same for you. There are plenty of mario coins and dicks to go around.

Just some food for thought.

Stay safe.

Xoxo.

Paige.

There is definitely a distinction between proving yourself as an excellent provider verses telling everyone you are. And definitely do not talk negatively about those girls they are currently seeing either as if thearwere worthless or benethe you.

We all sell the same one thing, the packaging and delivery are the only differences between us ladies. Help me, help you, keep us all safe!

Your actions speak louder than your words.

[Dahlia718]

Paige,

Your post is right on!

So I get it, technically as SPs we are in competition for business, nothing wrong with a little friendly competition, or new competition might make you have step your game up but there are few things of late that have been bothersome to me.

When a highly regarded SP reaches out to another new SP to introduce themselves I feel it is quite rude to ignore them. You probably won't get a second chance at that intro. The new SP may be the hot shit at the moment but with everything novelty wears off. There will come a point you may need referrals or references. You don't have to jump at their intro to you but acknowledgement of receiving would be more than cordial.

Lately there have been some new advertisers claiming to be THE BEST at whatever. Thats some big shoes to fill jumping on this board with some legends, women who have been providing A+ service for years in the hobby. I am not saying that these new SPs do not provide quality service but those are bold words. Not every SP is for everyone so there can't be any single one that is the best at everything everytime. I think reviews say more than your ads ever could.

With this being said white knighting average performance in hopes of getting discounts doesn't really help the community as whole. It may be good for the author and subject, but that is just selfish. An honest review is more beneficial to all involved. Constructive criticism can help an SP step up their game if needed. And after awhile when we all read these rave reviews by the same authors on those SPs that most either give average or subpar reviews the authors loose credibility within the community.

I don't claim to be the best at anything. I do claim to be a reliable, friendly, consistant, hot, smart SP that aims to please. I put safety an discretion at top of my list of priority for all those involved. SPs know that I am one of the most friendly and knowledgeable in this hobby, and very easy to approach. We need to look out for each other, its a sisterhood that may save one of our lives or from getting a new pair of shiny silver handcuffs. I am not saying we all have to be besties, as I do like a small hand full of you ladies better than the rest but as long as you have always treated me with respect I will do the same for you. There are plenty of mario coins and dicks to go around.

Just some food for thought.

Stay safe.

Xoxo.

Paige.

[AncientOne]

I have been a member since 2007 and have never posted a report but have been busy in this hobby. But now is the time. I met Dahlia last week and it was a very memorable time. Dahlia is intelligent, funny, energetic and oh so fun. I won't go into the graphic details as that been covered by other members. I can't wait to see her again and for any of you who have not seen her stop wasting your time and money and make the call.

Except as an "active monger" in this hobby since 2007, your SECOND ever review is of one of our ESTABLISHED service providers that needs zero amount of more great reviews? What am I missing here please? You want to throw your 2 cents onto this board it is encouraged and welcomed. Does not take up very much of your time. How about a few reviews of Orlando SP's that have "kept you busy in this hobby" other than the one we all already know is fantastic? Its called valuable contributions to this board and your fellow mongers. Bet you saw Dahlia after you read all of our great reviews of her so now its time for you to give back to us, please. Play Safe.

[Quilino]

This line in your last post is a classic:

"There are plenty of mario coins and dicks to go around. ".

Great wisdom is another one of your wonderful talents!!

[PaigeSweetStuf]

I have a feeling that it would be the ladies in the 1 or 2 seeds that make it to the final four and if not for the S curve some wouldn't even make it on the brackets.

It would be impossible to crown THe BEST of The BEST but I know of many SPs that come extremely close. The best would be a combination of qualities and attributes that many of well regarded "legends" hold then encompassed into one being. I think you gentlemen are quite lucky to have so many wonderful well regarded SPs to choose from, In all my years I have never seen a hobby community that in general looks out for each other as much as Orlando does.

Actions speak much louder than words.

Stay safe.

Xoxo.

Paige.

Also. To Paige's point, I do chuckle every time I see an SP tout themselves as "The Best".

Intimacy / sexuality may be the most subjective thing in the entire world. "The Best" for someone may be nowhere near for another person. So, you're the best at what, exactly?

That said, if any of the ladies in our literary club is interested in determining some way in which we could crown someone "The Best," I would be more than happy to serve as a judge / evaluator in some kind of NCAA tournament style competition.

Paige, your body of work has likely earned you a 1 seed.

I would love to see this bracket, by the way!