The Rat Trap

[PharmaGuy]

I know the ladies will jump in here and kick my ass but what you describe isn't my experience (in S America anyway, I don't monger in Sex Prison), Chicks have always performed better when I showed strength and wouldn't pay a crazy number. There is this weird thing about most people. What they think they want, or are responsive to, actually usually isn't. Chicks (here and in real life) always say they want to know respectful gentlemen, yet the choices they make in their personal lives rarely reflect that.

Guys are just as guilty, we all say we want a sweet nympho that owns a liquor store yet we end up with castrating man haters.

Just my experience, chicks with esteem issues always give better service, then when you are really nice to them thinking they will respond to that generally brings the opposite result and they treat you with contempt. In this particular world where most of us are a little broken, it seems to be the rule more often.

Ladies before you jump in and flame me, I don't advocate being abusive, just harder to please than most of you. I would like finding a string of chicks that I could pay a fair price, develop a good working relationship, and enjoy a longer term mutually beneficial relationship but they don't allow that. From time to time if I'm not a asshole they always try to take advantage.

Just me the guy writing, not the admin.

A2.

I would say most of the time. Rewarding me with some tremendous additional benefits from the providers. Tremendous.

[Mystical0945]

With asking, because you never know until you ask. But. To keep on and on and on when the SP has already given you the answer IS a big deal plus it isn't the way to get in between her legs. Again BUT. When someone calls and texts over and over again for months without actually pulling the trigger is a time waster as well as a game player. MIssMurno stated some of the guys text and call for months and even YEARS without setting an appointment! I'm pretty sure that's why she asked them not to text her anymore. Personally I don't blame her, hell I would have politely nipped that in the bud a loooong time ago. We have lives outside of the hobby guys we don't have time for games. We are not Dave & Busters. Just Say'and.

Love To ALL.

Xo Ashley.

Play Safe BUT Always Play HARD.

It says Joytoy as username but signed by me. I was over at Joys house last night and we were on her laptop looking through the forum (sometimes having a good laugh) and stumbled upon Mr Petroffs post. So we added our 4 cents.

Love To ALL.

Xo Ashley.

Play Safe BUT Always Play HARD.

[Admin2]

I know the ladies will jump in here and kick my ass but what you describe isn't my experience (in S America anyway, I don't monger in Sex Prison), Chicks have always performed better when I showed strength and wouldn't pay a crazy number. There is this weird thing about most people. What they think they want, or are responsive to, actually usually isn't. Chicks (here and in real life) always say they want to know respectful gentlemen, yet the choices they make in their personal lives rarely reflect that.

Guys are just as guilty, we all say we want a sweet nympho that owns a liquor store yet we end up with castrating man haters.

Just my experience, chicks with esteem issues always give better service, then when you are really nice to them thinking they will respond to that generally brings the opposite result and they treat you with contempt. In this particular world where most of us are a little broken, it seems to be the rule more often.

Ladies before you jump in and flame me, I don't advocate being abusive, just harder to please than most of you. I would like finding a string of chicks that I could pay a fair price, develop a good working relationship, and enjoy a longer term mutually beneficial relationship but they don't allow that. From time to time if I'm not a asshole they always try to take advantage.

Just me the guy writing, not the admin.

A2.

Pet,

Look at Michele's ad. It states clearly that she doesn't discount and don't ask. Well, some morons still ask. Why?

But look at it from a hypothetical SP's perspective. And this is actually part of a conversation I had the other day with a SP. She asked a legitimate question. "If you beat me up on price what kind of service do you think I am going to provide?" Think about it. This hypothetical SP has many, many good reviews. You talk her down on price. She gives you lack luster service and kicks you out early. What are you going to do? Write a bad review? Do you think anyone will believe you? Sorry, dude, you are just fucked all around.

Remember, we live in a world where 50% of the populations controls 100% of the pussy.

So, yeah, continue to piss off the ladies. Continue to think you are somehow a super stud when you are really a pathetic looser that hires ****** to fuck you. Keep pressing for the discount or some service you want that isn't on the menu. Great strategy.

Or, as my daddy taught me, don't get bigger than your raisin'. There is some really good talent out there that is cheap. These gals may not be legends or drop dead gorgeous, but the service is there for you at your price point. One day when you are worth something maybe you can step up and date a legend.

Just sayin'.

C3.

[JoyToy]

Sorry MissMurno and C3 but why is that a big deal? As a provider you should be prepare for times when customers ask for more than your service actually provides. I think is okay for a client to ask for more as well as it is right for a SP to set limits, at the end of the day is just a question. Sometimes we tend to forget how the market works.

With asking, because you never know until you ask. But. To keep on and on and on when the SP has already given you the answer IS a big deal plus it isn't the way to get in between her legs. Again BUT. When someone calls and texts over and over again for months without actually pulling the trigger is a time waster as well as a game player. MIssMurno stated some of the guys text and call for months and even YEARS without setting an appointment! I'm pretty sure that's why she asked them not to text her anymore. Personally I don't blame her, hell I would have politely nipped that in the bud a loooong time ago. We have lives outside of the hobby guys we don't have time for games. We are not Dave & Busters. Just Say'and.

Love To ALL.

Xo Ashley.

Play Safe BUT Always Play HARD.

[Camera3]

Pet,

Look at Michele's ad. It states clearly that she doesn't discount and don't ask. Well, some morons still ask. Why?

But look at it from a hypothetical SP's perspective. And this is actually part of a conversation I had the other day with a SP. She asked a legitimate question. "If you beat me up on price what kind of service do you think I am going to provide?" Think about it. This hypothetical SP has many, many good reviews. You talk her down on price. She gives you lack luster service and kicks you out early. What are you going to do? Write a bad review? Do you think anyone will believe you? Sorry, dude, you are just fucked all around.

Remember, we live in a world where 50% of the populations controls 100% of the pussy.

So, yeah, continue to piss off the ladies. Continue to think you are somehow a super stud when you are really a pathetic looser that hires ****** to fuck you. Keep pressing for the discount or some service you want that isn't on the menu. Great strategy.

Or, as my daddy taught me, don't get bigger than your raisin'. There is some really good talent out there that is cheap. These gals may not be legends or drop dead gorgeous, but the service is there for you at your price point. One day when you are worth something maybe you can step up and date a legend.

Just sayin'.

C3.

Sorry MissMurno and C3 but why is that a big deal? As a provider you should be prepare for times when customers ask for more than your service actually provides. I think is okay for a client to ask for more as well as it is right for a SP to set limits, at the end of the day is just a question. Sometimes we tend to forget how the market works.

[Mystical0945]

ISO a Sub to do some house cleaning. Male or female.

Love To ALL.

Xo Ashley.

Play Safe BUT Always Play HARD.

[Rachel21]

I just read this more clearly and just wanted to state that yes I do work with a fellow provider some of y'all may no quite well Ms. Rachael White now Rachael23! We both take are job serious number 1 safety I no she's safe she no's I'm safe wwe live to enjoy another day when we have a member come visit us the other is never around never rushing always waiting patiently for our members to have a positive dream without a rrush! Number 2 funhobby69 the man on the other wall I have no clue what that is about the only men in my life are you fellow members and my daddy but he stays far away from what I do! I always want to feel safe and for you fellow members to feel safe as well! Take care hope not to have ran you off! Ashley23.

Ashley it's Rachel21 LOL your 23.

[Ashley23]

I just read this more clearly and just wanted to state that yes I do work with a fellow provider some of y'all may no quite well Ms. Rachael White now Rachael23! We both take are job serious number 1 safety I no she's safe she no's I'm safe wwe live to enjoy another day when we have a member come visit us the other is never around never rushing always waiting patiently for our members to have a positive dream without a rrush! Number 2 funhobby69 the man on the other wall I have no clue what that is about the only men in my life are you fellow members and my daddy but he stays far away from what I do! I always want to feel safe and for you fellow members to feel safe as well! Take care hope not to have ran you off! Ashley23.

I debated coming into the "trap" but being a catalyst for the recent white knight discussion I thought I would throw out the question: what is a white knight? I provided a very positive and what I believe a well written articulate review of Ashley23. Had a return dream last night, also positive, and now concerned if I post a second review, I will be labeled a white knight because of other contemporaneous negative reviews. I don't believe that our community should "chill" the desire to publish short fictional stories. But I don't want to stir a Dallas redo and have some post count ***** eunuchs with zero to contribute on the bread and butter threads chime in and attack me. The fact is our canvases can sometimes be rather young, immature, and your mileage may vary on a day to day basis. Sometimes it's not them, it's the author; his appearance, attitude, expectation level, and his lens he sees thru on whether this hobby is a right or privilege. A SM previously provided good tips on how to treat the lady which I have followed to a tee; particularly asking them what they like also. Quite simple, treat them like you would a girl you have been dating and now how the opportunity to jump into the sack for the first time and you will increase your chances of being rewarded in return. And so, if I post a second positive review, particularly after the prior discussion, am I a white knight?

In rainbowdash3's defense, I always ask the lady if I can post a review (if it was a relaxing dream) and yes request she responds so I can establish some credibility which increases my hobbying opportunities. But I would never barter over a review in return and skew it for an acknowledgment as that constitutes treason to our fellow comrades in the foxhole IMHO. Impacts your credibility rainbowdash3. And on that subject, you indicated when you left the room, you noticed a girl sitting on the stairs giving you the evil eye. WTF, the cheap ass hotel has an internal hallway. There are no stairs visibility present except the standard emergency escape type behind a steel firewall door. So I don't know how you got eyeballed when leaving or how you could observe Ashley23 talking to this girl unless your loitering in an internal stairwell which is pretty awkward and not in your account, or how you know they saw your car as it would require them to leave the building entirely and step out into the parking lot. However, when I left the room, there was a white guy mid twenties or younger leaning against opposite hallway wall no more than 3 feet from me that gave new meaning to the term " mean mugging me". Scared the shit out of me. I likely will not return unless I get a satisfactory explanation.

On C3's take on capitalism, worked for me. First time painting on the canvas, the cost of supplies was 120 for the smaller canvas which I note was the box store's advertised price with the full canvas advertised at 160. For my second dream, the full canvas price was on sale. So thank you rainbowdash3. In both my painting of a story, there was no hidden fee, taxes. Love supply and demand of the free market.

So, I ask again, what is a white knight?

[PharmaGuy]

Sorry MissMurno and C3 but why is that a big deal? As a provider you should be prepare for times when customers ask for more than your service actually provides. I think is okay for a client to ask for more as well as it is right for a SP to set limits, at the end of the day is just a question. Sometimes we tend to forget how the market works.

Some are not just asking. They are pushy. At times blackmailing with threats of poor reviews. Good thing is they never have to see those douche bags ever again once they reveal themselves. For me I look at it as the girl is the boss. She calls the shots, I'm just the lucky guy she accepted to see. And we scoff that some have mgmt. If we were all completely respectable to these wonderful ladies we would not have to worry about half this shit. Treat them like you love them. Hopefully they can build a client base of good guys that they like to see and not have to worry about the clowns. Jmho.

[Petroff]

See what us women have to deal with? . Tell her don't give up its plenty of non morons out here, to quit over the few morons.

Sorry MissMurno and C3 but why is that a big deal? As a provider you should be prepare for times when customers ask for more than your service actually provides. I think is okay for a client to ask for more as well as it is right for a SP to set limits, at the end of the day is just a question. Sometimes we tend to forget how the market works.

[MissMurno69]

I talked to one of our legendary ladies this morning and she is pissed at all of us because a few of you guys keep asking for stuff she has made clear she doesn't do. She is thinking of pulling the plug on all of us because, as she put it, no one answering her add on BP ever asks.

Way to go, morons. What the fuck are you thinking?

C3.

See what us women have to deal with? . Tell her don't give up its plenty of non morons out here, to quit over the few morons.

[Admin2]

I say ban the *****. Too much evidence pointing to this being true and lack of any explanation or defense from her. I tried to go see her a couple times as well. It's a shame it didn't work out because I would have loved to be in that situation. My experiences are always so tame.

KC.

Banning removes the info. I'm thinking the forum is working exactly as it's supposed to in this case.

A2.

[Member #4697]

This guy has been a member here for a number of years. While I don't take positions regarding info on the forum (unless you were there you can't really say you know what happened) something about this smacks of truth to me. If it is, then I sure as fuck don't want her advertising for free here. I'm interested in hearing if any other established Seniors have had any similar experiences with this chick.

Sorry new guys, I'm not discouraging you from posting but if this is true I anticipate a flurry of recently registered users, who suspiciously seem to write the same, to register and talk about how awesome this chick is or why what happened was this guys fault.

A2

I say ban the *****. Too much evidence pointing to this being true and lack of any explanation or defense from her. I tried to go see her a couple times as well. It's a shame it didn't work out because I would have loved to be in that situation. My experiences are always so tame.

KC.

[SouthernGent51]

This guy has been a member here for a number of years. While I don't take positions regarding info on the forum (unless you were there you can't really say you know what happened) something about this smacks of truth to me. If it is, then I sure as fuck don't want her advertising for free here. I'm interested in hearing if any other established Seniors have had any similar experiences with this chick.

Sorry new guys, I'm not discouraging you from posting but if this is true I anticipate a flurry of recently registered users, who suspiciously seem to write the same, to register and talk about how awesome this chick is or why what happened was this guys fault.

A2

This new guy is interested in learning from all the senior members of the "Dream Team". I am all ears.

[Mikaeles]

I will put it this way I never met this lady and have no desire to see her even if I wanted too after seeing what others have posted of her I would not take the chance. I have been robbed about 4 times myself and even carry protection in many forms on me or near me when I did this type of thing even got caught by an SP on this site with my multiple pieces of protection LOL. The people who have met me will agree I am a big guy even bigger than this black guy described and they have been tried 4 times in the past. Could it have happened? Hell yes! Did it happen? Probably but I wasn't there. I personally would wait to see if she responds if she doesn't I'd ban her from the site and move on about our happy horny lives!

This guy has been a member here for a number of years. While I don't take positions regarding info on the forum (unless you were there you can't really say you know what happened) something about this smacks of truth to me. If it is, then I sure as fuck don't want her advertising for free here. I'm interested in hearing if any other established Seniors have had any similar experiences with this chick.

Sorry new guys, I'm not discouraging you from posting but if this is true I anticipate a flurry of recently registered users, who suspiciously seem to write the same, to register and talk about how awesome this chick is or why what happened was this guys fault.

A2