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[Honolulu Yobo]

Don't get it in your eye's. [URL]http://www.latimes. Com / local / lanow / la-me-ln-blinding-syphilis-los-angeles-aids-healthcare-foundation-20150310-story. Html.

[RdPuerco]

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Sweet Jesus, those may be the nicest tits I've ever seen. Ever.

[DangerBoy]

Check this out. http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Artic...rn-States.aspx.

I'm all for legalization of prostitution as long as the law accepts that two consenting adults can pay for sex. Full stop, no conditions.

That being said, when legalization laws have been enacted, it usually means lots of government regulation. Ever been to a legal brothel in Nevada? There's no way you're going to get BB anything, and forget about kissing of any kind. You won't because that's the law. In addition, those laws kill independent providers, as they have to work in a licensed brothel. Don't know what the usual take is, but the Bunny Ranch takes half. And this is in Nevada, where there's a strong tradition of libertarian thinking.

But let's say this happens in Hawaii. Since the AMPs will probably be the equivalent of a licensed brothel, you'll see all those FOB / FOJ girls you guys love so much skip Hawaii and go to the mainland instead because, let's face it, most of them probably don't have the paperwork to work legally in the US. I'd bet the MSs are in the same boat too.

Also, keep in mind that there's a new movement to "legalize" prostitution but jack up the penalties for being a customer.

Be careful what you wish for. There's no way that Hawaii would enact a law that just accepts two people exchanging money for sex. It's going to be heavily taxed (the GET plus a sin tax, I'm sure) and heavily regulated, because the politicians in Hawaii love to tax and they love to regulate even more -- and no one seems to care.

[Honolulu Yobo]

Check this out. http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Artic...rn-States.aspx.

[Redneck 1]

In my opinion, the article does emit the smell of anti-prostitution propaganda. It definitely doesn't meet the standards of rigorous professional journalism. Although the alleged "facts" in the article might be true, they could just as easily be exaggerated or even totally fabricated. Here are some points to consider.

As an afterthought, here's one more point. Remarkably, the article never identifies any location for this experience that purportedly lasted for three years, other than that it allegedly occurred somewhere in Belgium (a country almost twice the size of Hawaii in land area). No province, no city, no neighborhood, no street, nothing. That isn't consistent with professional journalism, and it further decreases the credibility of the article.

[Thumperforq]

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[Redneck 1]

It sounds like feminist propaganda to me.

In my opinion, the article does emit the smell of anti-prostitution propaganda. It definitely doesn't meet the standards of rigorous professional journalism. Although the alleged "facts" in the article might be true, they could just as easily be exaggerated or even totally fabricated. Here are some points to consider.

(1) The article is being distributed by AFP (Agence France-Presse) during the high-profile trial of Dominique Strauss-Kahn and others in France on charges of "pimping". Could the sensationalistic article be an attempt to influence public opinion about that case and / or the outcome of the trial?

(2) The article appears to merely be regurgitating unverified allegations, with no attempt whatsoever to try to independently confirm or substantiate any of the alleged "facts," as a genuine professional journalist should do.

For example, the woman supposedly tried to file "an official complaint" with the police in a specific French city, yet purportedly was rejected three times. Even a minimally competent journalist could contact the police about whether that really occurred, and if so, ask why the complaint was refused three times. Strangely, however, the article makes no mention of any effort to do so.

(3) The "source" of the allegations is completely anonymous. Even the first name used (Carole) is admittedly false. So there's no way for anyone to investigate her veracity and credibility, or even determine if she really exists. How convenient! Assuming that "Ms. Anonymous" does exist, she could be a mental case, a compulsive liar, and / or a radical anti-prostitution activist making up a story to advance the anti-prostitution agenda.

(4) Ms. Anonymous supposedly became involved in this business because she had no "resources" and no "housing". Yet, both France and Belgium have relatively generous social welfare programs.

(5) Ms. Anonymous alleges: "To go out or have a weekend free, you ask for permission". So presumably at least sometimes permission was obtained. Yet, these women then chose to return to what is claimed to be a "nightmare," "modern-day slavery," and a living "hell" in which "every day" they thought they were "going to die"? Doesn't make sense.

(6) Ms. Anonymous dubiously claims that some of the enslaved prostitutes were "doctors" and "lawyers". That's very improbable.

(7) Ms. Anonymous says that she had "up to 16 clients a day" and that she received "75 euros per champagne cork and 90 euros for each sex act". That's equivalent to about $85 per champagne cork and $102 per sex act, with up to sixteen guys per day. Yet, she then claims that after three years of working, she had a mere "1,500 euros" (about $1,700) because of paying rent of "between 30 and 50 euros a day" (about $34 to $57) and money spent on "food, cigarettes, clothes, and make-up". That doesn't make financial sense, unless she was living quite extravagantly. Plus, "cigarettes" aren't a necessity if you're trying to save money.

Guys, I'm not trying to minimize the problem of coerced prostitution, which definitely does exist. However, I'm skeptical about the trustworthiness of this particular article.

(This is in no way a criticism of the original poster, whom I respect, for posting the article. It was interesting to read, and I'm glad that he shared it on the forum).

[Ewa Beach]

Thought this might be of interest.

From an article by Agence France-Presse (AFP).

Ex-prostitute recalls the hell of Belgian brothels.

AFP.

Alfredo Estrella.

5 hrs ago.

Provided by AFP As the pimping trial involving former IMF chief DSK continues, an ex-prostitute tells AFP the event has brought her nightmares back to life.

Carole was drugged, raped by three men, filmed and threatened at the outset of her three-year descent into the hell of prostitution -- a form of "modern-day slavery" she eventually managed to escape.

As the pimping trial involving former International Monetary Fund chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn, a Belgian brothel owner "Dodo the Pimp" and others enters its second week, Carole told AFP the highly-publicised event has brought all her worst nightmares back to life.

The 41-year-old, whose name has been changed to protect her identity, used to run her own company. But when it went bankrupt, she said she was contacted "to serve champagne" to small business owners in bars in Belgium.

"Psychologically tired, without any resources, any housing," she accepted.

But she says she was drugged, raped by three men and filmed. "That's how everything started. They showed me the video, they threatened me. ".

For the first two months, she worked 24 hours a day, essentially a prisoner.

"In most champagne bars and brothels, we're locked up," Carole recalls, saying she worked for someone who knew "Dodo the Pimp. ".

"It's modern-day slavery. To go out or have a weekend free, you ask for permission. It can be refused if a client has complained. ".

- 16 clients a day -.

There were between 12 and 16 women per brothel or bar, most of them French, many drinking and taking drugs to cope.

Some of the prostitutes she met in VIP bars had once been doctors or lawyers.

"It's difficult to call your family, it's embarrassing, and impossible to cry for help. So you shut yourself away," she said.

Brothels are legal in some cities in Belgium, where prostitutes can register as independent workers.

But Carole was not registered with tax authorities, and her I'd was given to the manager and subsequently "stolen. " Her mobile phone was confiscated.

And it was relentless. No individual bed, sleeping in shifts, johns arriving day and night -- up to "16 clients a day," she says.

The men came from all walks of life -- businessmen, politicians, footballers, actors, soldiers, workers, regular employees.

There were those who came at lunchtime, having said they were going to a restaurant.

There were the sporty clients, "who told their wives they were going for a run or to play football. ".

Company directors came at night, and sometimes stayed until the next day.

They all had to pay 200 euros ($230) a fall, and a minimum of 200 to 250 euros per champagne bottle.

Carole would get 75 euros per champagne cork and 90 euros for each sex act. But she had to pay for rent -- between 30 and 50 euros a day -- and for food, cigarettes, clothes, and make-up.

"There was not much left. I left after three years with 1,500 euros," she says.

Then there was the violence.

Clients were informed of what a woman was capable of doing or not. "But they would sometimes be violent and do something to me that was banned," Carole says.

"Every day, I thought I was going to die. ".

The women were not allowed to refuse any client, and when they had drunk too much, they had to make themselves throw up and continue or be punished.

- Today 'I'm a ghost' -.

Carole was eventually able to escape thanks to the help of a man invited by a company director.

She tried to seduce him for work, and he refused, saying he did not want "to take advantage of a woman. ".

"I fell in love," she says.

The man invited her out for two days, pretending to use her as a client would, and Carole never returned.

It was a difficult time for both of them.

"It was tough for him to live with a person who had just seen hell. I had nightmares. And I was an alcoholic," she recalls.

She says she tried to file an official complaint three times in the northern French city of Lille, where she currently lives -- and where, coincidentally, the pimping trial is taking place. Each time she was turned down.

One policewoman even told her it was "because of me that husbands cheated on their wives," she says.

"Today, I can go out, but I'm a ghost.

"I'm speaking out for those who are still involved. So that they know that someone was able to leave. ".

I doubt that anything like this is rampant in Hawaii, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were random cases primarily involving young girls on the streets of Waikiki.

Kaina.

It sounds like feminist propaganda to me.

[Lonely Smiles]

Man, reading this makes me sad. I can imagine things like this happening. While I don't know of any reliable way to verify everything claimed by this article, I'm not naive enough to insist this is all fabricated. There are some dark hell holes of humanity out there. I sincerely hope this is not the case for the vast majority of women working in Honolulu.

I would like to think that even though I'm a monger, I would not knowingly sit idlely by if I knew of a girl trapped like this. Then the question, how much would I really be willing to risk to help someone?

Thought this might be of interest.

From an article by Agence France-Presse (AFP).

Ex-prostitute recalls the hell of Belgian brothels.

AFP.

Alfredo Estrella.

5 hrs ago.

Provided by AFP As the pimping trial involving former IMF chief DSK continues, an ex-prostitute tells AFP the event has brought her nightmares back to life.

Carole was drugged, raped by three men, filmed and threatened at the outset of her three-year descent into the hell of prostitution -- a form of "modern-day slavery" she eventually managed to escape.

As the pimping trial involving former International Monetary Fund chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn, a Belgian brothel owner "Dodo the Pimp" and others enters its second week, Carole told AFP the highly-publicised event has brought all her worst nightmares back to life.

The 41-year-old, whose name has been changed to protect her identity, used to run her own company. But when it went bankrupt, she said she was contacted "to serve champagne" to small business owners in bars in Belgium.

"Psychologically tired, without any resources, any housing," she accepted.

But she says she was drugged, raped by three men and filmed. "That's how everything started. They showed me the video, they threatened me. ".

For the first two months, she worked 24 hours a day, essentially a prisoner.

"In most champagne bars and brothels, we're locked up," Carole recalls, saying she worked for someone who knew "Dodo the Pimp. ".

"It's modern-day slavery. To go out or have a weekend free, you ask for permission. It can be refused if a client has complained. ".

- 16 clients a day -.

There were between 12 and 16 women per brothel or bar, most of them French, many drinking and taking drugs to cope.

Some of the prostitutes she met in VIP bars had once been doctors or lawyers.

"It's difficult to call your family, it's embarrassing, and impossible to cry for help. So you shut yourself away," she said.

Brothels are legal in some cities in Belgium, where prostitutes can register as independent workers.

But Carole was not registered with tax authorities, and her I'd was given to the manager and subsequently "stolen. " Her mobile phone was confiscated.

And it was relentless. No individual bed, sleeping in shifts, johns arriving day and night -- up to "16 clients a day," she says.

The men came from all walks of life -- businessmen, politicians, footballers, actors, soldiers, workers, regular employees.

There were those who came at lunchtime, having said they were going to a restaurant.

There were the sporty clients, "who told their wives they were going for a run or to play football. ".

Company directors came at night, and sometimes stayed until the next day.

They all had to pay 200 euros ($230) a fall, and a minimum of 200 to 250 euros per champagne bottle.

Carole would get 75 euros per champagne cork and 90 euros for each sex act. But she had to pay for rent -- between 30 and 50 euros a day -- and for food, cigarettes, clothes, and make-up.

"There was not much left. I left after three years with 1,500 euros," she says.

Then there was the violence.

Clients were informed of what a woman was capable of doing or not. "But they would sometimes be violent and do something to me that was banned," Carole says.

"Every day, I thought I was going to die. ".

The women were not allowed to refuse any client, and when they had drunk too much, they had to make themselves throw up and continue or be punished.

- Today 'I'm a ghost' -.

Carole was eventually able to escape thanks to the help of a man invited by a company director.

She tried to seduce him for work, and he refused, saying he did not want "to take advantage of a woman. ".

"I fell in love," she says.

The man invited her out for two days, pretending to use her as a client would, and Carole never returned.

It was a difficult time for both of them.

"It was tough for him to live with a person who had just seen hell. I had nightmares. And I was an alcoholic," she recalls.

She says she tried to file an official complaint three times in the northern French city of Lille, where she currently lives -- and where, coincidentally, the pimping trial is taking place. Each time she was turned down.

One policewoman even told her it was "because of me that husbands cheated on their wives," she says.

"Today, I can go out, but I'm a ghost.

"I'm speaking out for those who are still involved. So that they know that someone was able to leave. ".

I doubt that anything like this is rampant in Hawaii, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were random cases primarily involving young girls on the streets of Waikiki.

Kaina.

[Kaina2076]

Thought this might be of interest.

From an article by Agence France-Presse (AFP).

Ex-prostitute recalls the hell of Belgian brothels.

AFP.

Alfredo Estrella.

5 hrs ago.

Provided by AFP As the pimping trial involving former IMF chief DSK continues, an ex-prostitute tells AFP the event has brought her nightmares back to life.

Carole was drugged, raped by three men, filmed and threatened at the outset of her three-year descent into the hell of prostitution -- a form of "modern-day slavery" she eventually managed to escape.

As the pimping trial involving former International Monetary Fund chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn, a Belgian brothel owner "Dodo the Pimp" and others enters its second week, Carole told AFP the highly-publicised event has brought all her worst nightmares back to life.

The 41-year-old, whose name has been changed to protect her identity, used to run her own company. But when it went bankrupt, she said she was contacted "to serve champagne" to small business owners in bars in Belgium.

"Psychologically tired, without any resources, any housing," she accepted.

But she says she was drugged, raped by three men and filmed. "That's how everything started. They showed me the video, they threatened me. ".

For the first two months, she worked 24 hours a day, essentially a prisoner.

"In most champagne bars and brothels, we're locked up," Carole recalls, saying she worked for someone who knew "Dodo the Pimp. ".

"It's modern-day slavery. To go out or have a weekend free, you ask for permission. It can be refused if a client has complained. ".

- 16 clients a day -.

There were between 12 and 16 women per brothel or bar, most of them French, many drinking and taking drugs to cope.

Some of the prostitutes she met in VIP bars had once been doctors or lawyers.

"It's difficult to call your family, it's embarrassing, and impossible to cry for help. So you shut yourself away," she said.

Brothels are legal in some cities in Belgium, where prostitutes can register as independent workers.

But Carole was not registered with tax authorities, and her I'd was given to the manager and subsequently "stolen. " Her mobile phone was confiscated.

And it was relentless. No individual bed, sleeping in shifts, johns arriving day and night -- up to "16 clients a day," she says.

The men came from all walks of life -- businessmen, politicians, footballers, actors, soldiers, workers, regular employees.

There were those who came at lunchtime, having said they were going to a restaurant.

There were the sporty clients, "who told their wives they were going for a run or to play football. ".

Company directors came at night, and sometimes stayed until the next day.

They all had to pay 200 euros ($230) a fall, and a minimum of 200 to 250 euros per champagne bottle.

Carole would get 75 euros per champagne cork and 90 euros for each sex act. But she had to pay for rent -- between 30 and 50 euros a day -- and for food, cigarettes, clothes, and make-up.

"There was not much left. I left after three years with 1,500 euros," she says.

Then there was the violence.

Clients were informed of what a woman was capable of doing or not. "But they would sometimes be violent and do something to me that was banned," Carole says.

"Every day, I thought I was going to die. ".

The women were not allowed to refuse any client, and when they had drunk too much, they had to make themselves throw up and continue or be punished.

- Today 'I'm a ghost' -.

Carole was eventually able to escape thanks to the help of a man invited by a company director.

She tried to seduce him for work, and he refused, saying he did not want "to take advantage of a woman. ".

"I fell in love," she says.

The man invited her out for two days, pretending to use her as a client would, and Carole never returned.

It was a difficult time for both of them.

"It was tough for him to live with a person who had just seen hell. I had nightmares. And I was an alcoholic," she recalls.

She says she tried to file an official complaint three times in the northern French city of Lille, where she currently lives -- and where, coincidentally, the pimping trial is taking place. Each time she was turned down.

One policewoman even told her it was "because of me that husbands cheated on their wives," she says.

"Today, I can go out, but I'm a ghost.

"I'm speaking out for those who are still involved. So that they know that someone was able to leave. ".

I doubt that anything like this is rampant in Hawaii, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were random cases primarily involving young girls on the streets of Waikiki.

Kaina.

[Redneck 1]

Last year, a 19-year-old former student at Oregon State University recorded a sexually explicit solo video of herself on the sixth floor of the OSU library, in a section of the library labeled "geography, anthropology and recreation," LOL. Subsequently, the video was posted on a popular porn website, where it received over 260,000 views within a few days.

No one was forced to watch this snowbunny's video, only those who voluntarily wanted to do so. She was over the age of consent. America is supposedly "the land of the free". Plus, Oregon State's own mascot is a "beaver".

So, no problem, right?

Wrong!

The Oregon State Police bravely "launched an investigation" and diligently tracked down the young blondie. Now she's charged with "Public Indecency," a crime punishable by up to one year of imprisonment and up to a $6,250 fine.

The jackass of the week, OSU vice president Steve Clark, has declared that the video "definitely does not represent the values of the more than 30,000 students and 5,000 employees that make up Oregon State University". Come on, Clark, you puritanical prude, how many OSU students and employees eagerly watched that video, in addition to watching all sorts of other porn on the internet? LOL.

Personally, I think that this sexy woman should be given an award, not charged with a crime. Many more OSU students would spend time in the library if that type of educational entertainment were regularly available there!

[Secret Agent]

How does she look in person? I think she's pretty hot on the KITV news. Sometimes her outfits show some skin during her weather forcasts.

She looks great in person, very petitie. A few years ago I seen her waitressing at the mai tai bar in Ala moana center while she was working at KITV too. She may still be working mai tai's part time I haven't been there in a while.

[Da One]

How does she look in person? I think she's pretty hot on the KITV news. Sometimes her outfits show some skin during her weather forcasts.

[Ernestm]

No common sense either to just look on BP or ask a taxi driver.

He probably had too much too drink. His career has been the shits the past couple of years. He just missed the cut. Again. He had too much alcohol in him to make any sense. He should have created an alias on this board and we could have helped him get what he needed, instead of finding the sidewalk with his face.

[JoeyB]

Yeah Kanoe is hot but not like her sister! I know Maile personally and yowsers! But she's a good christian girl, I know for a fact that she would seriously frown if she knew I ran in this circle. Man she is BEAUTIFUL!!

Just saw kanoe gibsons on the channel 2 news tonight. She was off about an year. She has another kid but she was looking hot!