"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[FredMoore]

I tell every SB that starts to take off. That I am in it for the honeymoon phase only. When that's over, we're done. Because there is one thing I will never do again, and that's having to "work" on a relationship. I already have one job and that's enough.

Amen Brother! If I had a nickel for every time I've been told I need to work on my issues and then my marriage I would be a zillionaire. I yam what I yam as popeye so eloquently stated to Olive Oyl. I'm tired of constantly working. I need to play.

"Working" a 10/10 Pot who does not want a sexual relationship. I thought I would take a backseat on this one and agree for a lower amount to some non IC play. We'll see. If the pussy isn't breached then it isn't sex is it? Like Hollywood, if I can play with a 10 for a $ then I could be happy for a while. And my magic could probably tip her over into the zone. Also a higher allowance has got to be some incentive. I give this one a 20% chance of making it to the M&G.

[Mike7794]

I agree with some of this, except that sex addiction is real, just as addiction to anything can be real. Addiction is simply when the indulgence in some activity starts to have adverse effects that you don't want, and you then find it challenging to control the indulgence. Anything enjoyable can become an addiction. Evolution also programs us to crave foods that aren't necessarily good for us, but all we have to do is observe people who are 600 lbs or people who keel over from heart disease / diabetes etc to understand that following our evolutionary cravings do not always lead us to success.

Think about what would happen if we did (as you said) what our sex drive urges us to do, which is fuck as many as we possibly can (or at least those we want to fuck). I can't speak for everyone, but if I had lived my life like that, I would have already had child support payments with at least a dozen different women and would be spending the rest of my life digging out of that financial hell. I would be too poor to afford SB dating. What's more, my attractiveness to potential civy women would be greatly diminished. Everyone knows that the more kids you have, the less desirable you are on the dating scene. Some guys I'm sure can lie about how many offspring they have initially, but eventually it all catches up to them. Thankfully, more than once my awareness and better judgment has allowed me to recognize those that were trying to get pregnant by me, and no matter how addicted I was to fucking them, I had to cut and run.

I had a vsec back in '08. One of the best things I've ever done. Instead of pulling out you get to stay in and let it go. It's been a beautiful thing.

[FotoGuy1970]

It's come to my attention one of the sb's on sa claiming to be 19, is actually still in high school and most likely 15-16. You guys think I should report her, or just mind my own business. She made some lame excuse about not being able to meet over the weekend before I did some digging, but who knows if she's met anyone and is looking perhaps to set them up.

I've reported a couple of girls to SA for being underage and I knew for a fact that they were. I personally think it's best to keep the underage girls off of the site so that SA doesn't attract the kind of attention that it really does not want.

[HollywoodGuy]

" In the civvy dating world, I had to fight my nature of being a nice guy to get what I wanted. Essentially I was a the*ick to the girl I wanted to be with, and then eventually landed her. She is now my SO. " Smellyfish.

Is that a good thing Fish? Maybe you shouldn't have tried so hard. I think Hollywood has the dream life. When the SO good times are surpassed by the bad times then it makes the Sugar life look better and better. Marriage is usually good, until it isn't. And it always hits that "isn't " phase at some point. That is why we are all here, on line, emailing nubile young babes, trying to find that next conquest instead of snuggling up at home with the SO. Sad but true.

I tell every SB that starts to take off. That I am in it for the honeymoon phase only. When that's over, we're done. Because there is one thing I will never do again, and that's having to "work" on a relationship. I already have one job and that's enough.

[FredMoore]

" In the civvy dating world, I had to fight my nature of being a nice guy to get what I wanted. Essentially I was a the*ick to the girl I wanted to be with, and then eventually landed her. She is now my SO. " Smellyfish.

Is that a good thing Fish? Maybe you shouldn't have tried so hard. I think Hollywood has the dream life. When the SO good times are surpassed by the bad times then it makes the Sugar life look better and better. Marriage is usually good, until it isn't. And it always hits that "isn't " phase at some point. That is why we are all here, on line, emailing nubile young babes, trying to find that next conquest instead of snuggling up at home with the SO. Sad but true.

[HollywoodGuy]

I've tried to be a nice guy with these girls, but after dealing with thieves, liars, and fakes, my patience for dealing with some of their crap has become paper thin. As long as I feel that an arrangement or even plans for a M&G are going well, I am absolutely a very nice, understanding and generous person (much as I am in real life, outside of the sugar world). But as soon as a POT or a SB starts screwing things up, my niceness, understanding, and generosity will get very short, very quick.

I always stay nice till the end. When it goes south I just move on. Live and learn.

[Bastardo]

It's come to my attention one of the sb's on sa claiming to be 19, is actually still in high school and most likely 15-16. You guys think I should report her, or just mind my own business. She made some lame excuse about not being able to meet over the weekend before I did some digging, but who knows if she's met anyone and is looking perhaps to set them up.

[Bastardo]

I've tried to be a nice guy with these girls, but after dealing with thieves, liars, and fakes, my patience for dealing with some of their crap has become paper thin. As long as I feel that an arrangement or even plans for a M&G are going well, I am absolutely a very nice, understanding and generous person (much as I am in real life, outside of the sugar world). But as soon as a POT or a SB starts screwing things up, my niceness, understanding, and generosity will get very short, very quick.

I've become the exact same way.

[Donwhite]

Be careful when you go bare guys. I'm awaiting results from a gonorrhea / chlamydia test that I had today. I think I got it from a dirty blowjob since I always wear life jacket when I go tunnel diving in the bowl. I went ahead and got the antibiotic shot in the hip and took 4 other antibiotic bills in case the test comes back positive. The urgent care doctor said it was either that or kidney stones. Either way my recent return to the bowl has gone awry.

[JZLizard]

Right throughout the animal kingdom, through evolution, the dominant males have mated with the most nubile and fertile females.

With the human animal having evolved to a thinking and cunning animal, that dominance includes not only control of physical resources, but also the ability to mate with as many females of the species as he can using his smarts.

I say that there is no such thing as sex addiction. We are doing exactly what evolution has programmed us to do. Mating with as many women as we can is just as much a part of our makeup as breathing.

As for civvy dating, well why not let THEM be the "just friends"? There are some really wonderful women out there my age (62), but why date them? Seek them out as friends, have a ball, but dating? That's for the younger ones, as evolution has designed.

I agree with some of this, except that sex addiction is real, just as addiction to anything can be real. Addiction is simply when the indulgence in some activity starts to have adverse effects that you don't want, and you then find it challenging to control the indulgence. Anything enjoyable can become an addiction. Evolution also programs us to crave foods that aren't necessarily good for us, but all we have to do is observe people who are 600 lbs or people who keel over from heart disease / diabetes etc to understand that following our evolutionary cravings do not always lead us to success.

Think about what would happen if we did (as you said) what our sex drive urges us to do, which is fuck as many as we possibly can (or at least those we want to fuck). I can't speak for everyone, but if I had lived my life like that, I would have already had child support payments with at least a dozen different women and would be spending the rest of my life digging out of that financial hell. I would be too poor to afford SB dating. What's more, my attractiveness to potential civy women would be greatly diminished. Everyone knows that the more kids you have, the less desirable you are on the dating scene. Some guys I'm sure can lie about how many offspring they have initially, but eventually it all catches up to them. Thankfully, more than once my awareness and better judgment has allowed me to recognize those that were trying to get pregnant by me, and no matter how addicted I was to fucking them, I had to cut and run.

[FotoGuy1970]

I've tried to be a nice guy with these girls, but after dealing with thieves, liars, and fakes, my patience for dealing with some of their crap has become paper thin. As long as I feel that an arrangement or even plans for a M&G are going well, I am absolutely a very nice, understanding and generous person (much as I am in real life, outside of the sugar world). But as soon as a POT or a SB starts screwing things up, my niceness, understanding, and generosity will get very short, very quick.

[RubberyMan]

Right throughout the animal kingdom, through evolution, the dominant males have mated with the most nubile and fertile females.

With the human animal having evolved to a thinking and cunning animal, that dominance includes not only control of physical resources, but also the ability to mate with as many females of the species as he can using his smarts.

I say that there is no such thing as sex addiction. We are doing exactly what evolution has programmed us to do. Mating with as many women as we can is just as much a part of our makeup as breathing.

As for civvy dating, well why not let THEM be the "just friends"? There are some really wonderful women out there my age (62), but why date them? Seek them out as friends, have a ball, but dating? That's for the younger ones, as evolution has designed.

[IluvSmellyFish]

And re entered the civvy dating world, I would make it clear up front I wanted someone to be with forever, who would lack for nothing, but would have to be ok with me banging random girls when I needed the strange.

[HollywoodGuy]

Funny how that works.

If this thread was a book, that would be the final sentence.

[IluvSmellyFish]

I take a middle of the road approach.

I don't go negative on sbs that don't go to the FC after the second date, but also let them know that if they don't give it up, they won't see me again. Two have come back with requests for a third date, problem is my time is limited, and I aleady have sbs who are willing to go to the FC who are gauranteeed to give me an amazing time who have already filled the spots of the girls that did not give it up, but who now want to. I have left things open with those girls who ate now ready to give it up, for when I need something new. Sure they may not be around when I get bored of my current rotation, but who knows?

I have not civvy dated for years, but when I was, I found that the nice guy approach left me in the friend zone. Always.

Main difference in my opinion is that in the bowl, I don't plan on marrying any of these girls. I just want to f*ck them. I am by nature a nice guy. If they want to be my SB for a few weeks then great, and if not, then I can give another girl my cash and gifts. I am always congenial and leave the door open to them to give them the chance to bang me for an allowance.

In the civvy dating world, I had to fight my nature of being a nice guy to get what I wanted. Essentially I was a d*ick to the girl I wanted to be with, and then eventually landed her. She is now my SO.

Now she has the life she always wanted and dreamed about. With the exception of having a guy who bangs sbs on the side without her knowing about it.

Funny how that works.

I never, ego negative as you never know. Had one SB who decided I really was worth seeing after taking a bunch of shit and never regretted that. In real life dating ok to call them to task but I think not in the bowl.