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  1. #11412

    No appologies needed

    McCooker, I didn't think you were rude at all. I admit that my negotiation skills suck especially when the blood is in the little head. I'll keep practicing but fortunately I don't monger enough to affect the local economy.

    Quote Originally Posted by McCooker  [View Original Post]
    Of course, my apologies if I sounded rude. It's unfortunate that those have been your experiences, since personally, I haven't had much of an issue asking for mutual touching with a standard tip. I understand that this is on a provider to provider basis, but that has been my own experience. At the least, I usually have access to breast play, and more often than not, pussy play as well.

    Ethnicity as well has not been an issue for me, in terms of tip / quality of service provided. My best experiences have been with a vgirl, while my worst bargaining experiences was with a mix, white / v (That being said, it's not as if I haven't paid more than standard for a regular finish, but again, that's because my provider was far friendlier and accomodating than I had expected, and made me feel like a welcome friend, instead of just a customer. For me, it's a question of experience provided, and I appreciate the discussion as well.

  2. #11411
    Quote Originally Posted by CantStop  [View Original Post]
    I figure in some places especially south oc the standard is $40 for a mechanical HJ from an old lady who won't allow or you don't want to touch so for me an extra $20 with a younger lady to have her titties out that I can play with along with hands down the pants butt play is worth it. I'd rather pay $20 more ($60 total tip) for a HJ if the girls are out and touching is allowed at the time than say no and get no extras and have to waste more time and another door fee to go somewhere else. If the girls don't come out and I can't touch then I only pay $40.

    Mimi and Tracey both seem to be viets so they want more money. They both seem to be in their mid 30's.

    I'd rate Tracey an 8+ thin body nice face firm titties and decent attitude.

    I'd rate Mimi about a 5, she seems sloppy, I think she's had a kid in the last year or two she's got a big belly full of stretch marks and saggy titties. She didn't seem happy to be working there so her attitude was bad.

    I've had cases where I've negotiated hard then received shit service because the girl felt she wasn't making what she deserved so she just wanted me gone and the next one in.

    These are my thoughts and I appreciate the discussion.
    Of course, my apologies if I sounded rude. It's unfortunate that those have been your experiences, since personally, I haven't had much of an issue asking for mutual touching with a standard tip. I understand that this is on a provider to provider basis, but that has been my own experience. At the least, I usually have access to breast play, and more often than not, pussy play as well.

    Ethnicity as well has not been an issue for me, in terms of tip / quality of service provided. My best experiences have been with a vgirl, while my worst bargaining experiences was with a mix, white / v (That being said, it's not as if I haven't paid more than standard for a regular finish, but again, that's because my provider was far friendlier and accomodating than I had expected, and made me feel like a welcome friend, instead of just a customer. For me, it's a question of experience provided, and I appreciate the discussion as well.

  3. #11410

    Tipping

    I figure in some places especially south oc the standard is $40 for a mechanical HJ from an old lady who won't allow or you don't want to touch so for me an extra $20 with a younger lady to have her titties out that I can play with along with hands down the pants butt play is worth it. I'd rather pay $20 more ($60 total tip) for a HJ if the girls are out and touching is allowed at the time than say no and get no extras and have to waste more time and another door fee to go somewhere else. If the girls don't come out and I can't touch then I only pay $40.

    Mimi and Tracey both seem to be viets so they want more money. They both seem to be in their mid 30's.

    I'd rate Tracey an 8+ thin body nice face firm titties and decent attitude.

    I'd rate Mimi about a 5, she seems sloppy, I think she's had a kid in the last year or two she's got a big belly full of stretch marks and saggy titties. She didn't seem happy to be working there so her attitude was bad.

    I've had cases where I've negotiated hard then received shit service because the girl felt she wasn't making what she deserved so she just wanted me gone and the next one in.

    These are my thoughts and I appreciate the discussion.

    Quote Originally Posted by McCooker  [View Original Post]
    Jesus. I'm all for tipping well and more, especially if your provider went above and beyond your expectations, but I got to emphasize, "above and beyond". Even. 6 for a standard finish, on top of your regular. 4 for entry is 1 for just being jacked. Perhaps I'm being cynical, but just my thoughts.

    I have to ask, what would you rate Tracy and Mimi there?

  4. #11409
    Quote Originally Posted by CantStop  [View Original Post]
    I made a second trip to the one on Lambert and had MiMi. She gave me a card that had both locations. I've been to Lambert twice and for me at least the party line is they want $80 for a handy but they'll take $60, I've heard BJ can be had but I haven't been there when the recommended providers have. Both Tracey and MiMi were supposedly on the rag so I couldn't touch pussy. I asked MiMi if I could if I came back next week and pet the kitty and then she changed her tune and said one time she got a yeast infection from a customer so she doesn't allow that anymore. She also wanted tip in advance. She did say I could touch the girls but each time I did she first gave a blocking move (I was being nice and gentle). HJ was jackhammer til I told her to slow down. Won't repeat with Mimi.
    Jesus. I'm all for tipping well and more, especially if your provider went above and beyond your expectations, but I got to emphasize, "above and beyond". Even. 6 for a standard finish, on top of your regular. 4 for entry is 1 for just being jacked. Perhaps I'm being cynical, but just my thoughts.

    I have to ask, what would you rate Tracy and Mimi there?

  5. #11408
    Quote Originally Posted by FunTrust  [View Original Post]
    Looking at your prior posts, they seem to be about you asking form more info. You have to provide info to get info. If you have not helped out your friends in AZ, why should we help you you?

    " I have always relied on the kindness of strangers" is a good quote, but remember she also gave it up to Marlin Brando.
    Sorry I'm still new to this so I haven't post much report.

  6. #11407

    Toftt

    Quote Originally Posted by WallyWally  [View Original Post]
    Theres a cheap massage place at that location in titile that use to be the home of Kate the ass rider. I been a few times, way busy with guys waiting. Anyone been there of know what's up with this place? Is it just busy cause they have pvt rooms and its 45 bucks?
    I should have known better when I saw ladies and couples in the waiting area. This place is totally legit. It is a Chinese place. All that said, the massage was very good if that's all you want. Prices were very reasonable.

  7. #11406

    Why?

    Quote Originally Posted by RickyRick2  [View Original Post]
    Coming down to OC in a few weeks. Wanted to scope out and find out the best place to go for Viet or Japanese girl (only in town for 2 day), really want somewhere for a GFE or.

    Atleast not rushing like crazy.

    I can help you out w / a few of the AZ place if you wish =).

    Thanks in advance fellas! Can't wait to be in CA again.
    Looking at your prior posts, they seem to be about you asking form more info. You have to provide info to get info. If you have not helped out your friends in AZ, why should we help you you?

    " I have always relied on the kindness of strangers" is a good quote, but remember she also gave it up to Marlin Brando.

  8. #11405
    Coming down to OC in a few weeks. Wanted to scope out and find out the best place to go for Viet or Japanese girl (only in town for 2 day), really want somewhere for a GFE or.

    Atleast not rushing like crazy.

    I can help you out w / a few of the AZ place if you wish =).

    Thanks in advance fellas! Can't wait to be in CA again.

  9. #11404

    Tip

    Quote Originally Posted by WallyWally  [View Original Post]
    I agree Mary is good and those yoga pants pull down easy too. She does have a nice round ass and it is round. Her boobs are good too. She's playful but careful till she knows its ok. Her 2 handed finish is good too.
    What's the damage here? I'm planning to visit next week.

  10. #11403

    Br

    I made a second trip to the one on Lambert and had MiMi. She gave me a card that had both locations. I've been to Lambert twice and for me at least the party line is they want $80 for a handy but they'll take $60, I've heard BJ can be had but I haven't been there when the recommended providers have. Both Tracey and MiMi were supposedly on the rag so I couldn't touch pussy. I asked MiMi if I could if I came back next week and pet the kitty and then she changed her tune and said one time she got a yeast infection from a customer so she doesn't allow that anymore. She also wanted tip in advance. She did say I could touch the girls but each time I did she first gave a blocking move (I was being nice and gentle). HJ was jackhammer til I told her to slow down. Won't repeat with Mimi.

    Quote Originally Posted by WallyWally  [View Original Post]
    I agree Mary is good and those yoga pants pull down easy too. She does have a nice round ass and it is round. Her boobs are good too. She's playful but careful till she knows its ok. Her 2 handed finish is good too.

  11. #11402
    Quote Originally Posted by FunTrust  [View Original Post]
    One of the things I dislike most are the 1/2 hour massage, then you get stay for another half?

    640 west 1st, very nice 1/2 hour massage, with my rear exposed and massaged but no real contact. My spidey senses tell me its to long with no flip. Sure enough, got you stay for another half. Now it was a very good massage, but I would rather they not do anything to get you hopeful then the little touch and ask for another half hour for the fee. Particularly when I am on the clock so to speak. Will not repeat.
    I've had similar situations at this place. Good thing is they rotate girls from their foot rub shop just a mile away so there is often variety. Once you find someone you like, 2 visits (YMMV of course) and you will have a more enjoyable time. In fact, if the girl is from the foot place (17th street due north), you can go see her there for cheaper, they have private rooms. Still not spectacular, don't get me wrong, but a place that's worth having around when your in a pinch.

  12. #11401

    MP recommendation

    Hi, I'm visiting OC from Chicago late in January, looking for recommendations for MP with either Vietnamese or Latina talent who are spinner type and FS or BBBJ friendly. You can PM me if you wish. I am happy to help other senior members who visit Chicago or Milwaukee.

  13. #11400

    Done

    Quote Originally Posted by FunTrust  [View Original Post]
    Clear your mailbox.
    FunTrust,

    Sorry. Please try again.

    OAH.

  14. #11399
    Quote Originally Posted by MrNoodly  [View Original Post]
    I was passing through OC in my travels, checked this forum to see what's up. I really prefer latinas, so I went to Holiday before lunch. I had to chuckle when I saw the girl, "Teri. " She was like someone's cartoon (in a nice way) of the perfect chica. Big tits, small waist, big, firm, high ass, tiny black dress, 6" heels. Why, yes please, I'll have me some of that. Ella estaba muy caliente, pero -- eh. Very little personality, no flirting (even if it's always an act) no warmth, no tease. Kind of rushed and mechanical. Oh well. Everyone has an off day. I'll try Holiday again on my way back through, see how it goes with a different chica.
    I gave Holiday another go today. This time I got "Julie. " More personality, better acting skills, better boob job. Más buena. Whereas "Teri" sounded US-born, "Julie" sounded like an import. Maybe that's why she was more pleasant to be with, and why she worked harder. She was so energetic during RCG, twerking and bouncing away, that the cover came off. Thanks for the accidental BBFS!

  15. #11398

    OLD asia hand

    Quote Originally Posted by OldAsiaHand  [View Original Post]
    I have tried Chinese, Korean and Vietnamese AMP providers with HE. It has been interesting to compare them here with their home countries. I have not yet tried a Latino place. And, I have not found any Thai places yet, although I would like to. I did have one Viet in her early 20's, butmost of the other girls were between 30-40 yo. This seems to be the norm in the places I visited. These girls would be over the hill in Asia andI doubt they could do much business at all over there unless they were very, very cheap. That said, I realize I must adapt here and lower the bar.

    IMHO, the Chinese providers give the best massage and allow the most access. The Koreans the least access and pretty mechanical. The Vietnamese somewhere in between but a couple were in a hurry and watching the clock. Of course, YMMV.

    I am curious if my experience is typical of the general situation.

    OAH.
    Clear your mailbox.

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