"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[FreeFallin]

Got one about 6 years ago. Changed my life.

Really I had a second one after a small problem with the sutures on one side. 1st was in office the second under the gas and I would gladly get two more then deal with babies. Strange that I have had 2 different SB's tell me that we were having a BABY! Needless to say, surgery records ruined it.

[FredMoore]

Question for the guys having unprotected sex with their sb's. Do all of you have vasectomies, or are you just praying that she's telling the truth about being on birth control? I hate condoms, and usually need to be finished off orally, but I think I would be a nervous wreck after each unprotected encounter.

I don't worry about it. The key is anonymity. If they can't find you all is good. Having said that, STDs are a risk but most are treatable. The sniff test rules out a lot as discussed thoroughly in past entries. I always thoroughly inspect all my babies in the FC visually and orally before FS. Any suspicious aromas or bumps lead me to rethink diving in. I also have a convo about their periods, what time of the month it is, and encourage them to get on Birth Control. If they aren't on anything and the time of the month is worrysome I will pull out and paint their titties (sometimes it will reach their face if I am excited enough) I am old enough to have great control without the dreaded precum. There are Apps that if you plug in their period and normal cycle length you get a "at risk" range from low to high. That isn't perfect but it beats the heck out of condoms.

Young boys probably like condoms to prolong their finish but for me I can't finish at all sometimes.

[Dsprdo]

Got one about 6 years ago. Changed my life.

I'm scheduled for 12/24. Merry Christmas and an even happier New Year!

[HollywoodGuy]

Question for the guys having unprotected sex with their sb's. Do all of you have vasectomies, or are you just praying that she's telling the truth about being on birth control? I hate condoms, and usually need to be finished off orally, but I think I would be a nervous wreck after each unprotected encounter.

Got one about 6 years ago. Changed my life.

[DogSun]

Question for the guys having unprotected sex with their sb's. Do all of you have vasectomies, or are you just praying that she's telling the truth about being on birth control? I hate condoms, and usually need to be finished off orally, but I think I would be a nervous wreck after each unprotected encounter.

[FredMoore]

Hollywood has got it right, the Honeymoon is what brings me back, and GFE. I am not interested in any girl who doesn't treat me like her treasured BF. Covered service is not an option as one of those mandatory things. Unfortunately, I am not content with one girl. That old familiarity creeps in and even though the sex is great there is something about variety.

Appropos to the earlier discussion about patience(see Pot #2).

Pot #1.

9. 5 WF still on track and communicating leading up to M&G this week. She agrees to all FC activities except FS 1st date. She is a virgin she says, so we will see about that. I am excited about the possibilities but I give her a 50% chance of showing. She is saying things that confirm that the rush is on with my brother mongers. She has retrofitted her profile with a no sex statement. I will give it one date if she shows and FS has to happen date #2 or I'm moving on.

Pot#2.

She pinged me ans I answered. No sex she said on her profile, so I told her I was interested but that FS has to be in the picture. I week later she came back with the agreement that she was interested. Of course it is all in the offer so we will see if she has GPS.

Pot #3.

Got a hit from a 45 yr old super hot looking MILF. I'd call her a 9/9 WF super banging body with DD bolt ons with a small frame. I might have to break my unwritten rule about senior citizens. I will not do menopause with anyone else. Been there / done that. Nothing good happens physically after that time of life, certainly regarding sexual function.

Christmas is a time of joy / and need. The Babies are coming out in droves because of the need for funds. They want to perform as little as possible for the most they can get.

[HollywoodGuy]

I usually have about a 10 date limit where I am trying to decide if it can go any further. This year 5 new girls made it that far and none made it further. Three are totally gone and two are left. Here is one of them. The "tomboy princess" (pictured). She is at date 11 coming up (maybe tonite). In bed we are awesome. She is a true spinner. 5'11" and 118. But I am still pining a little for my x. Got to find someone to make me forget about her.

We are all (or mostly all) on this thread for a reason. And that reason is that even a super hot UTR girl is still just a fuck. If you are single like me (or in a not so satisfying SO relationship) you want all the great GF stuff that sometimes goes along with having an exclusive SB. I dont really care about being in a forever relationship. But I love being in the honeymoon phase. When that's over I'm gone or planning my escape. I have been pretty lucky in lust though never too lucky in love. At least I will have some company over the holidays.

[JZLizard]

Sometimes this is a patient man's game, which is why I like using the fly fishing ananolgy that I'm sure some of you are sick of hearing!

Just like various fishing holes, results and observations can vary greatly between locations. During my last SD venture, I targeted about 8-10 different metropolitan areas. Did not get to visit them all, but learned a lot about how much difference geography can make. In some areas the girls were in and out fast. Sometimes they appeared, then were out, but contacted me weeks later following up to my initial mail. In some cases I saw girls who were still available (confirmed via message) that I had seen a year earlier on the sites, with only minor updates to their profile (including pics that were at least a year old, making me wonder how current the pics were). Some cities just have higher turnover than others.

[HollywoodGuy]

Sometimes this is a patient man's game, which is why I like using the fly fishing ananolgy that I'm sure some of you are sick of hearing!
I think it was my post that Al was referencing, and as I said I always jump on the new babies with my standard / customized message, but if they don't respond, I don't count them out. I wait a week for them to get deluged by douchebags, then follow up. I have found that they may stop checking their profiles daily, but they usually don't delete them, so a notice of my message goes to their email.
I'm like a breath of fresh air with my courtly manners and yada yada, and once I get them to an m&g, it is usually a matter of mere logistics to get them to the FC, if the attraction is there.
Fluidity is the name of the game, my friends. There is no magic formula that works for all babies, but there are certainly approaches that will get the dialogue started. It then falls back on us to bring the game.
I admit that there are always the few who climb out of the Bowl before I can follow up, but as I've said before, you can't fuck them all, as much as I would like to. It's not foolproof, but if you want a Sure Thing, buy a blow up doll or call a hooker.

Peace,

Scott.

It seems that lately the bowl is overflowing with cute, new and most importantly willing girls. I think part of my personal success is that I really stick close to my demographic. My attraction is real and they can sense that. At my age I am just not going to get it up for someone if the chemistry isn't there. I guess I am not too big on the charm and the wining and dining. I'd rather get them right at their hour of need and uncertainty. Lay my cards on the table and let them make an informed decision.

But tactics and time frames can vary. Today a girl I messaged a month ago (then deleted on the 7th day as is my m.o.) messaged me back today. A 10/10 5'3" (pictured below). So I am sure she was inundated with riff raff or has GPS. She said we needed to talk. That usually means up sell. As I am very clear on my terms. But I have really gotten over the "omg I let that one get away" syndrome. There are just too many to ever meet even a quarter of the ones that agree to my rates.

I have never yet been in a long term relationship (meaning 10 or more dates lol) where SB creep doesn't start to settle in. Or even jump off the scale. So I have to start low just to stay in the game.

[F Scott]

That works I am sure, except well over 50% of the hot NP's bail after 1 to 3 days, so if you don't get in on day one you"re out.

Sometimes this is a patient man's game, which is why I like using the fly fishing ananolgy that I'm sure some of you are sick of hearing!
I think it was my post that Al was referencing, and as I said I always jump on the new babies with my standard / customized message, but if they don't respond, I don't count them out. I wait a week for them to get deluged by douchebags, then follow up. I have found that they may stop checking their profiles daily, but they usually don't delete them, so a notice of my message goes to their email.
I'm like a breath of fresh air with my courtly manners and yada yada, and once I get them to an m&g, it is usually a matter of mere logistics to get them to the FC, if the attraction is there.
Fluidity is the name of the game, my friends. There is no magic formula that works for all babies, but there are certainly approaches that will get the dialogue started. It then falls back on us to bring the game.
I admit that there are always the few who climb out of the Bowl before I can follow up, but as I've said before, you can't fuck them all, as much as I would like to. It's not foolproof, but if you want a Sure Thing, buy a blow up doll or call a hooker.

Peace,

Scott.

[HollywoodGuy]

And someone mentioned in the thread below (no idea where, I've read so much), about how you can let the idiots jump on them imediately, and then when you swoop in a week later and be normal, it's home run derby. Both sb1 and 2 have been that way.

That works I am sure, except well over 50% of the hot NP's bail after 1 to 3 days, so if you don't get in on day one you"re out.

[ThePunter7216]

Might I offer a suggestion for those concerned with their likeness getting caught out in the wild. As a working professional, I keep a profile up on LinkedIn and other professional networking sites that are open to the public. Why not just use those?

In 3 words: Google Image Search.

If you are sending out pics or otherwise making them available, you want to use pics that you know are not anywhere on the internet linked to the real you. Otherwise it's just too easy to put 2+2 together.

[Almighty]

This thread is amazing.

A dude in another state / city forum said to take a look at this thread. Wow.

So, after about a week of being a paid member of SA, I'll give a little newbie report.

First, about about a year ago, before I found SA, on fling dot com, I bumped into an ex stripper. We met, dinner, and back to the FC for an all night session. Damage was 1. 5. I've been seeing her about once every other month or so. She's a total freak in the sack, and might be the best 1. 5 investment I've ever made. She stays all night, and always leaves me with a smile in the morning. I guess I was somewhat a SD before I even knew about SA.

So, last week, I paid for SA and started in. I texted with SB1, and did the M&G, and right back to the FC, after about an hour. 35, blonde. Would do the rate thing but I haven't figured out the categories yet. We watched some tv, and then hammered away. Did her three times in the course of two hours. She's a bigger girl, not grossly or anything, just big. She's 6 feet tall, about 3 inches taller than me. We hit it off so well, seriously, that it was no charge. She then got home and texted me her sob story and how I was only the 2nd guy she met (and first to get her to the FC). Evidently guy 1 took her to Wendy's and was a total loser, so she ate and bailed. And how she's got this business that's about to go under, etc. I think she might be a bit of a clinger, and she's got 4 kids. She's educated, got a decent degree, I think comes from a decent home and stuff, but, I dunno. I could see an every other weekend thing with her (her ex has the kids every other wknd), but can't see anything "serious. ".

SB2, I met and we had dinner, and back to the FC, and that's where she broached the subject of price. Being a noob, I offered 1. 5 and she said ok (should have gone 1, and seen if she'd take it), but she could only stay a couple hours. I like them to stay all night and I'll do them 3-5 times. Nothing better than wake up sex or BJ before going off to work. Nailed her 2 x in the 3 or so hours, and got a great massage. I've decided to play dumb and pretend any that I meet for the first time, it's also my first time ever. Let them do the talking. But from now on, I'm going to go with. 75 and work up, for an all nighter. SB2 will make a return trip and said she'd plan to stay all night. Supposedly tried to stay all night this time but nobody was home to let her dog out, couldn't get her brother or something on the cell to tell him so she left about 3 hours at the FC.

Have several pots online too. A couple of college girls / young 20's, and a 45 yr old "MILF who's not happy at home. " Had a real hot 23 year old, 5'3, supposedly 93 lbs, real spinner type, her pics were slick (and once I managed to get her email address, I managed to fb stalk her and her pics are legit). SHe was going to have to drive about an hour to my place, said she had done this one other time and now that guy was out of commission and he paid her 1000 a night. Ehhhh, GPS. I said no way to that, and she came down to 500, for an all nighter, and I held firm. She came down to 400, and I then said, "well, this is my first time, I must not know how to do this, because I was thinking along the lines of like 100 plus 50 for gas. " She went silent. Plus, she had stated if she came to stay all night, her "uncle" would be coming along to make sure she was safe, and would need to crash at my pad too. Ehhhh, definitely not. I was willing to *maybe* do 200 on her (bc she was pretty hot for around here), but not any more than that. We'll see how far she gets asking those prices. Maybe she'll come back around. I'm guessing the 1000 story was bs.

And someone mentioned in the thread below (no idea where, I've read so much), about how you can let the idiots jump on them imediately, and then when you swoop in a week later and be normal, it's home run derby. Both sb1 and 2 have been that way. They had both been M&G with one other guy, who they just M&G, and bailed.

Got to love SA. Great thread here and tons of info, great job guys.

[JZLizard]

Might I offer a suggestion for those concerned with their likeness getting caught out in the wild. As a working professional, I keep a profile up on LinkedIn and other professional networking sites that are open to the public. Why not just use those?

Joe out!

I guess I don't understand the suggestion. When I say I don't want girls doing anything weird with my photos, I'm talking about things uploading my photo to "revenge" sites and badmouthing me, etc.

Crap like this: http://www.thedirty.com/category/dirty-business.

The more info I put online (linkedin, facebook whatever) the more opportunities they have to do it. Identity thieves love linkedin too.

[JoeBlowDC]

Might I offer a suggestion for those concerned with their likeness getting caught out in the wild. As a working professional, I keep a profile up on LinkedIn and other professional networking sites that are open to the public. Why not just use those?

Joe out!