"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**GetLost** · 12-11-14 21:18

Originally Posted by JeezLizard [View Original Post]

Having inordinately promiscuous habits since my early teens, including some seriously wild bar hopping years, I've only used condoms maybe 10% of the time and still not had any STD problems. Many of those girls I wouldn't have been able to tell you their first name 48 hours after banging them, much less now. I have gone through the unwanted pregnancy scare though, and fortunately in the most severe case (where it was confirmed positive), there was also a confirmed abortion. The pregnancy thing worries me more than STDs.

I absolutely hate a blowjob with a condom. In 30 years of picking up strange women on the street, bars, internet etc. And getting a blow job (I insist on no condom) I have yet to pick up any kind of disease. Blow jobs are relatively safe. Plus I like cumming in a womans mouth. Then I usually get rid of them until next time. Don't want them hanging around or getting too close. On the other hand if it does get to full sex I will use a condom. I don't know where these broads have been and most of the time they are seeing many partners especially the hookers. I'll never fuck a SW, only if I happen to find a drunk at a bar or just an easy score then I will wear a condom. That's the personal safety side. Plus I don't like the idea of abortions or other terrible things that happen with unwanted pregnancies. So that's why I wear a condom. I'm just saying my opinion and not judging anyone. Plus I don't want my past haunting me neither.

**JZLizard** · 12-11-14 20:48

Anyone tried the Pass the Sugar website yet? I just saw it mentioned on TV and wondered if anyone here had tried it.

**JZLizard** · 12-11-14 20:47

Originally Posted by DogSun [View Original Post]

Question for the guys having unprotected sex with their sb's. Do all of you have vasectomies, or are you just praying that she's telling the truth about being on birth control? I hate condoms, and usually need to be finished off orally, but I think I would be a nervous wreck after each unprotected encounter.

Having inordinately promiscuous habits since my early teens, including some seriously wild bar hopping years, I've only used condoms maybe 10% of the time and still not had any STD problems. Many of those girls I wouldn't have been able to tell you their first name 48 hours after banging them, much less now. I have gone through the unwanted pregnancy scare though, and fortunately in the most severe case (where it was confirmed positive), there was also a confirmed abortion. The pregnancy thing worries me more than STDs.

**Rouleur** · 12-11-14 18:53

Originally Posted by DogSun [View Original Post]

Question for the guys having unprotected sex with their sb's. Do all of you have vasectomies, or are you just praying that she's telling the truth about being on birth control? I hate condoms, and usually need to be finished off orally, but I think I would be a nervous wreck after each unprotected encounter.

I can't do PIV. Or anywhere else. With a condom. I didn't start to play until after my divorce and have found most SB's very receptive to BB after I've shown them my paperwork.

**FreeFallin** · 12-11-14 16:16

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

Got one about 6 years ago. Changed my life.

Really I had a second one after a small problem with the sutures on one side. 1st was in office the second under the gas and I would gladly get two more then deal with babies. Strange that I have had 2 different SB's tell me that we were having a BABY! Needless to say, surgery records ruined it.

**FredMoore** · 12-11-14 15:52

Originally Posted by DogSun [View Original Post]

Question for the guys having unprotected sex with their sb's. Do all of you have vasectomies, or are you just praying that she's telling the truth about being on birth control? I hate condoms, and usually need to be finished off orally, but I think I would be a nervous wreck after each unprotected encounter.

I don't worry about it. The key is anonymity. If they can't find you all is good. Having said that, STDs are a risk but most are treatable. The sniff test rules out a lot as discussed thoroughly in past entries. I always thoroughly inspect all my babies in the FC visually and orally before FS. Any suspicious aromas or bumps lead me to rethink diving in. I also have a convo about their periods, what time of the month it is, and encourage them to get on Birth Control. If they aren't on anything and the time of the month is worrysome I will pull out and paint their titties (sometimes it will reach their face if I am excited enough) I am old enough to have great control without the dreaded precum. There are Apps that if you plug in their period and normal cycle length you get a "at risk" range from low to high. That isn't perfect but it beats the heck out of condoms.

Young boys probably like condoms to prolong their finish but for me I can't finish at all sometimes.

**Dsprdo** · 12-11-14 15:41

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

Got one about 6 years ago. Changed my life.

I'm scheduled for 12/24. Merry Christmas and an even happier New Year!

**HollywoodGuy** · 12-11-14 15:21

Originally Posted by DogSun [View Original Post]

Question for the guys having unprotected sex with their sb's. Do all of you have vasectomies, or are you just praying that she's telling the truth about being on birth control? I hate condoms, and usually need to be finished off orally, but I think I would be a nervous wreck after each unprotected encounter.

Got one about 6 years ago. Changed my life.

**DogSun** · 12-11-14 14:51

Question for the guys having unprotected sex with their sb's. Do all of you have vasectomies, or are you just praying that she's telling the truth about being on birth control? I hate condoms, and usually need to be finished off orally, but I think I would be a nervous wreck after each unprotected encounter.

**FredMoore** · 12-11-14 10:32

Hollywood has got it right, the Honeymoon is what brings me back, and GFE. I am not interested in any girl who doesn't treat me like her treasured BF. Covered service is not an option as one of those mandatory things. Unfortunately, I am not content with one girl. That old familiarity creeps in and even though the sex is great there is something about variety.

Appropos to the earlier discussion about patience(see Pot #2).

Pot #1.

9. 5 WF still on track and communicating leading up to M&G this week. She agrees to all FC activities except FS 1st date. She is a virgin she says, so we will see about that. I am excited about the possibilities but I give her a 50% chance of showing. She is saying things that confirm that the rush is on with my brother mongers. She has retrofitted her profile with a no sex statement. I will give it one date if she shows and FS has to happen date #2 or I'm moving on.

Pot#2.

She pinged me ans I answered. No sex she said on her profile, so I told her I was interested but that FS has to be in the picture. I week later she came back with the agreement that she was interested. Of course it is all in the offer so we will see if she has GPS.

Pot #3.

Got a hit from a 45 yr old super hot looking MILF. I'd call her a 9/9 WF super banging body with DD bolt ons with a small frame. I might have to break my unwritten rule about senior citizens. I will not do menopause with anyone else. Been there / done that. Nothing good happens physically after that time of life, certainly regarding sexual function.

Christmas is a time of joy / and need. The Babies are coming out in droves because of the need for funds. They want to perform as little as possible for the most they can get.

**HollywoodGuy** · 12-10-14 23:05

I usually have about a 10 date limit where I am trying to decide if it can go any further. This year 5 new girls made it that far and none made it further. Three are totally gone and two are left. Here is one of them. The "tomboy princess" (pictured). She is at date 11 coming up (maybe tonite). In bed we are awesome. She is a true spinner. 5'11" and 118. But I am still pining a little for my x. Got to find someone to make me forget about her.

We are all (or mostly all) on this thread for a reason. And that reason is that even a super hot UTR girl is still just a fuck. If you are single like me (or in a not so satisfying SO relationship) you want all the great GF stuff that sometimes goes along with having an exclusive SB. I dont really care about being in a forever relationship. But I love being in the honeymoon phase. When that's over I'm gone or planning my escape. I have been pretty lucky in lust though never too lucky in love. At least I will have some company over the holidays.

**JZLizard** · 12-10-14 18:26

Originally Posted by FScott [View Original Post]

Sometimes this is a patient man's game, which is why I like using the fly fishing ananolgy that I'm sure some of you are sick of hearing!

Just like various fishing holes, results and observations can vary greatly between locations. During my last SD venture, I targeted about 8-10 different metropolitan areas. Did not get to visit them all, but learned a lot about how much difference geography can make. In some areas the girls were in and out fast. Sometimes they appeared, then were out, but contacted me weeks later following up to my initial mail. In some cases I saw girls who were still available (confirmed via message) that I had seen a year earlier on the sites, with only minor updates to their profile (including pics that were at least a year old, making me wonder how current the pics were). Some cities just have higher turnover than others.

**HollywoodGuy** · 12-10-14 18:23

Originally Posted by FScott [View Original Post]

Sometimes this is a patient man's game, which is why I like using the fly fishing ananolgy that I'm sure some of you are sick of hearing!
I think it was my post that Al was referencing, and as I said I always jump on the new babies with my standard / customized message, but if they don't respond, I don't count them out. I wait a week for them to get deluged by douchebags, then follow up. I have found that they may stop checking their profiles daily, but they usually don't delete them, so a notice of my message goes to their email.
I'm like a breath of fresh air with my courtly manners and yada yada, and once I get them to an m&g, it is usually a matter of mere logistics to get them to the FC, if the attraction is there.
Fluidity is the name of the game, my friends. There is no magic formula that works for all babies, but there are certainly approaches that will get the dialogue started. It then falls back on us to bring the game.
I admit that there are always the few who climb out of the Bowl before I can follow up, but as I've said before, you can't fuck them all, as much as I would like to. It's not foolproof, but if you want a Sure Thing, buy a blow up doll or call a hooker.

Peace,

Scott.

It seems that lately the bowl is overflowing with cute, new and most importantly willing girls. I think part of my personal success is that I really stick close to my demographic. My attraction is real and they can sense that. At my age I am just not going to get it up for someone if the chemistry isn't there. I guess I am not too big on the charm and the wining and dining. I'd rather get them right at their hour of need and uncertainty. Lay my cards on the table and let them make an informed decision.

But tactics and time frames can vary. Today a girl I messaged a month ago (then deleted on the 7th day as is my m.o.) messaged me back today. A 10/10 5'3" (pictured below). So I am sure she was inundated with riff raff or has GPS. She said we needed to talk. That usually means up sell. As I am very clear on my terms. But I have really gotten over the "omg I let that one get away" syndrome. There are just too many to ever meet even a quarter of the ones that agree to my rates.

I have never yet been in a long term relationship (meaning 10 or more dates lol) where SB creep doesn't start to settle in. Or even jump off the scale. So I have to start low just to stay in the game.

**F Scott** · 12-10-14 16:39

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

That works I am sure, except well over 50% of the hot NP's bail after 1 to 3 days, so if you don't get in on day one you"re out.

Sometimes this is a patient man's game, which is why I like using the fly fishing ananolgy that I'm sure some of you are sick of hearing!
I think it was my post that Al was referencing, and as I said I always jump on the new babies with my standard / customized message, but if they don't respond, I don't count them out. I wait a week for them to get deluged by douchebags, then follow up. I have found that they may stop checking their profiles daily, but they usually don't delete them, so a notice of my message goes to their email.
I'm like a breath of fresh air with my courtly manners and yada yada, and once I get them to an m&g, it is usually a matter of mere logistics to get them to the FC, if the attraction is there.
Fluidity is the name of the game, my friends. There is no magic formula that works for all babies, but there are certainly approaches that will get the dialogue started. It then falls back on us to bring the game.
I admit that there are always the few who climb out of the Bowl before I can follow up, but as I've said before, you can't fuck them all, as much as I would like to. It's not foolproof, but if you want a Sure Thing, buy a blow up doll or call a hooker.

Peace,

Scott.

**HollywoodGuy** · 12-10-14 02:23

Originally Posted by Almighty [View Original Post]

And someone mentioned in the thread below (no idea where, I've read so much), about how you can let the idiots jump on them imediately, and then when you swoop in a week later and be normal, it's home run derby. Both sb1 and 2 have been that way.

That works I am sure, except well over 50% of the hot NP's bail after 1 to 3 days, so if you don't get in on day one you"re out.