"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[JZLizard]

I saw a profile on SA who is dancer at one of the club. She is asking to come and see her there. Is this the way to get more client to club or just to see her, spend money. And she makes money by giving lap dances to pot SDs. Anyone in Richmond have seen this SB?

It's not uncommon for dancers to show up on the sites. It's a good way to meet, to just go by their work, cheap and convenient M&G.

So while I don't know her in particular I'd say its unlikely she just wants more lap dances. I've met dancers online in civy dating that asked me (no money required) to come meet them during the day at their work, then we can sneak off and be naughty (because their bf / hubby would be home at night so they had no other opportunity).

However, there are some drawbacks. Being able to do M&Gs at the club are no-risk for her, she's at no risk of time wasted because she's there anyway and can walk away at any time. This means she could be sending 3-4 guys a day there to meet with as pots, putting her at an advantage (easier for her to meet more than for you). Also, because her job is to extract money from men, she might be very good at it, but you can't assume that because she's a dancer. There can be a wide range of personality types among strippers as well as SBs.

Also since she's used to negotiating dances and such, she will probably want to talk arrangement details before meeting in private, as opposed to fuck-first and then figure it all out which is what I prefer to do.

Also if she is hot and in a nice club, she already makes good money so she is going to have really high money expectations unless she already finds you attractive enough to fuck with or without the money (happens too).

On the plus side, you get to check her out naked at the club to see the goods before you sign up. LOL.

But since your risk is limited to maybe a drink, a lapdance and an hour of your time, why not stop by during her shift just to meet her, say Hello, and see how it goes? Go in with a story about how you can only stay a half hour for whatever reason, so you have an easy out if you realize it's a waste of time.

[FredMoore]

I saw a profile on SA who is dancer at one of the club. She is asking to come and see her there. Is this the way to get more client to club or just to see her, spend money. And she makes money by giving lap dances to pot SDs.

Anyone in Richmond have seen this SB?

That # doesn't pull anyone up. Clever way to get business at the club and to test the merchandise. Both parties get to eyeball each other before agreeing to hit the FC. I have not had good luck with strippers. Good ones make a lot more on the club pole than I am willing to pay riding my pole.

[GeorgeRichmond]

I saw a profile on SA who is dancer at one of the club. She is asking to come and see her there. Is this the way to get more client to club or just to see her, spend money. And she makes money by giving lap dances to pot SDs.

Anyone in Richmond have seen this SB?

[AsianFrosty]

So I stopped at the store to pick up a moneypac for one of my regulars, and they won't sell it without scanning my license. Says it is greendot's new policy.

It appears that the Know Your Customer (KYC) regulations are getting tighter.

[Beachesnole02]

I got one just a couple days ago at 7. 11. I didn't have to do that. Maybe it was just the stores policy?

Isn't it against the law to have an I'd in California?

Thanks, I'll try the 7/11.

[HollywoodGuy]

So I stopped at the store to pick up a moneypac for one of my regulars, and they won't sell it without scanning my license. Says it is greendot's new policy.

I got one just a couple days ago at 7. 11. I didn't have to do that. Maybe it was just the stores policy?

[Beachesnole02]

So I stopped at the store to pick up a moneypac for one of my regulars, and they won't sell it without scanning my license. Says it is greendot's new policy.

[HollywoodGuy]

I have been txting with my webcam baby (pictured) that lives hours away. She says she misses me. We had about 7 dates so far. But the long distance is proving to be an issue.

My MILF is finally supposed to be getting her own apt on the 1st. In 3 years of dating her I have had to get a room every time. Can't wait to lose that expense.

My "princess" came by last night to fuck me so she said. I watched her nap for an hour and then told her to leave. I doubt I will ever see her again. Talk about no chemistry.

My "jamaican princess" and I have been txting and I will start seeing her again soon. She ditched me because she said I wasn't reliable enough. We had about 10 dates prior to that.

My girl S is in school and I haven't seen her yet this month.

I got a few POTS including a hot? older (45) tall and slender, white trashy x rocker babe.

I am ready to do a couple of other M&G's this week with my usual demographic.

I have cut down on my frequency and I am trying to be a little more selective going forward. My expenses haven't really dropped much as I am bonus-ing a couple of regulars for the holiday season which has already started for me.

[JZLizard]

" By SB standards these girls would have probably been 7's at best. But what made the sex good was the circumstances and the conversation that surrounded the encounters beginning to end. " Jeez Lizard.

So true. My ATF in the cold light of day was a solid 7, maybe a 6. 5 . But the attitude and intangibles are what put them over the top. She was plain in a cute way with a horrible profile pic. Ghastly really but I got a response from her and she agreed to meet in the FC. I just needed to get laid. What a shocker when I saw this cute girl with a radiant smile, and she did have an 8+ body, and wrapped me up upon walking into the hotel room, spread her legs and had a screaming O after a few tricks of mine. 16 mos later we broke up through no fault of either one of us. I had no desire to see others when we were together

One thing I have to say about all my SB M&Gs. In every single case, what met me in person was even better than they appeared in the photos. Civy dating meetups unfortunately have not been consistent like that for me. Sometimes what showed up at a civy meet was a stunner, sometimes it was hard for me to be polite and mask my disappointment. I used to plan my civy date hookups such that if I wasn't interested in her, I always had some alternate plan lined up immediately after the meeting.

I'm not sure why it would be different between SB and civy dating, it could just be that I've done a lot less SB M&G's than I have other types of online dating -- maybe if I were meeting several per week I'd encounter some duds. It could also be that SB hunting is by nature more sexual, so a lot of times the girls start sending pics that give me a better idea of their body (anything from bikini photos to nudes), and by the time they've shown me that much there's less risk of misrepresentation.

It could also be that unattractive girls (or ones who misrepresent themselves) don't last long in the sugar world. If I met someone off match.com for dinner, I would be unlikely to be rude or chastise her if she showed up looking less than the shared pics. Maybe at worst I'll ask the waitress for separate checks and hope she gets the hint (I never offer to pay for her dinner before hand in civy meetups, but will if I like her). But, if someone ever showed up for an SB M&G looking sub-standard compared to the pics she sent me, I would have no problem telling her that she is wasting my time. In my mind at least there is a different set of expectations for an SB M&G. I guess the way I look at it is that while unattractive girls have every right to look for love online, they don't have necessarily a right to consider themselves SB material. Well they do but they better not bait and switch on photos or I will be pissed and let them know about it. By very nature of having a profile there, they are implying "I'm hot enough to be here", just as an SD is implying "I can afford to be here" by signing up.

[BeardedMan67]

I often go to the Dominican Republic and have noticed they have roadside hotels with garages attached to them. You take your date and drive into a garage and close the door. There is an attached room with a bed and small dining area with a couch and a bathroom. After a few minutes there is a knock on the door and an employee comes and takes your cash and then you can go at it. Often they are rented in hour blocks instead of overnight. Affairs are very common place in the Dominican and this just works for their culture. Would love to have something like this in the states. Private and affordable.

[JoeBlowDC]

That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.

BWWWAAAHHHHAAAAA!!

(yea, I know that's a lame spelling but it's supposed to be a really long loud laugh. What can I say I'm over 40).

[HollywoodGuy]

Mind sharing allowance she was looking for and digits if you are not moving forward with her.

She looks hot for One time thing for sure.

That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.

[FredMoore]

" By SB standards these girls would have probably been 7's at best. But what made the sex good was the circumstances and the conversation that surrounded the encounters beginning to end. " Jeez Lizard.

So true. My ATF in the cold light of day was a solid 7, maybe a 6. 5 . But the attitude and intangibles are what put them over the top. She was plain in a cute way with a horrible profile pic. Ghastly really but I got a response from her and she agreed to meet in the FC. I just needed to get laid. What a shocker when I saw this cute girl with a radiant smile, and she did have an 8+ body, and wrapped me up upon walking into the hotel room, spread her legs and had a screaming O after a few tricks of mine. 16 mos later we broke up through no fault of either one of us. I had no desire to see others when we were together

' Sugar Dating is by nature NOT monogamous, " Grumpyin Va.

Actually it frequently is asked for and received. It is up to each participant how it goes down. I prefer monogamy but " what I don't know " is OK enough. I do not want to have a girl who is exposed to STDs since I like bareback. And I am totally turned off by a girl like your M&G who makes it clear she is turned on by and fucking others. Ogling other guys while in your company is just rude and objectionable. Some of my SBs I am sure are working other guys, and some I am pretty sure are not. Unless the girl is highly sexual (nympho like us) most want a comfortable guy to take care of their needs and help support them. My # 1 SB and I were talking about how many married couples do not have sex. She said that she would go elsewhere if her partner would not have sex with her.

Our problem (men) is that we need variety. My SB provides a good, spirited, and multiorgasmic fucking but I just like the chase, landing, and consummation of a new challenge. The pussy feels the same, it's the surrounding wrapper that changes.

Grumpy, I would tell the SB what she wants to hear . It's not like we are all over the top in the ethics department re:relationships since most of us are cheating on an SO. As usual Hollywood is setting a high standard for us all.

[Lotus007]

That is the real point of my post. Don't discount those with no pic. I actually dated someone who was an established Latina model in her country with a body to die for, but at the time she didn't have an easy way to upload a picture of herself, so I benefitted by being probably one of the only guys who actually read her profile as opposed to looking only for pics.

I'm just mentioning this because I see a lot of guys wondering what they are doing wrong. Try hitting up some of the ones without pics, ones who may have entered their stats a little bit off, etc. Go off the beaten path and you may find some real treasures.

It is a game of supply and demand, and if you expand your search beyond the obvious, you might strike gold.

Geezzz. Don't spoil it for us who knows little back door in these competitive world. LOL.

Agree, Currently working on 2 sbs who don't login regularly and have no pics. Somehow it took them 2 sec to send to an email but won't upload on sb websites.

[JZLizard]

I've talked here before about many topics, and I know much of what I've written is forever buried in a monolithic thread that is far too large to search (and simultaneously still searchable by everyone we don't want it to be), I sometimes grow tired of saying the same things. Not that I mind it really, I just try to add something new where I can to whatever I've said before. So here I go.

Some have said a man's memories are a photo album of his life. If that's true, I probably have a few photo albums that have mold growing on them from spilled beer. Yet whether the statement itself is true, as I look back to some of my great sexual experiences of the past, I started thinking about which ones really make me horny to reflect back on? Which ones do I sit there and think about when I wake up in the middle of the night? I can promise to anyone reading this, even if you had a nice looking girlfriend who is willing and able to meet your sexual needs at pretty much any time of the day or night, it still won't stop the craving. So inevitably you find yourself thinking back to where you've been (maybe as an exercise to think about where you'd like to go next).

As I thought about some of the most erotic experiences in my life, I noticed a pattern. The ones that still make me horny to think about were not necessarily the prettiest ones or even the most experienced / skilled. In fact, I think lack of experience on their part might be one of the things that turns me on.

I could go into more detail about what specifically turns me on, but I'm not trying to do a show and tell exercise here. My real point is that I realized on SB sites, I tend to browse through the photos and pick what are the best of the best (according to my own taste of course). But, my best sexual experiences have been girls I've met in civy dating, in situations off the beaten path. By that, I mean civvy dating isn't that different. You have girls that are clearly smoking hot based on photos, and of course those girls have a gazillion other guys after them. If they aren't getting fucked on a daily basis by many others, they are walking around with the knowledge that they very easily can and they are always looking for something greater.

So, I started thinking back to some of my really fun times. There were times when I lugged myself out to the bar scene (even though I felt too fucking tired to go) on a weeknight when the bars were mostly dead and struck gold. I'm remember one time, hot latina in the parking lot sucking my cock and tugging at it with both hands, swallowing once then kept going, making me cum twice. Unreal. Another time was an online dating find -- a thin, and cute but not gorgeous grad student. Something quirky and kind of weird about her, yet sex was consistently amazing. One night she sneaks me into her dorm room for some gratuitous fucking, which was fun because she kept having to check to make sure her roommate didn't know she had someone in there. By SB standards these girls would have probably been 7's at best. But what made the sex good was the circumstances and the conversation that surrounded the encounters beginning to end.

These were girls that could have been "hot SB material" if they had perfected their game, taking 50 pictures of themselves but only posting the top 1 percent that they felt made them marketable, and building their ego up as a side effect. But they weren't, they were off the marketing grid completely.

That is the real point of my post. Don't discount those with no pic. I actually dated someone who was an established Latina model in her country with a body to die for, but at the time she didn't have an easy way to upload a picture of herself, so I benefitted by being probably one of the only guys who actually read her profile as opposed to looking only for pics.

I'm just mentioning this because I see a lot of guys wondering what they are doing wrong. Try hitting up some of the ones without pics, ones who may have entered their stats a little bit off, etc. Go off the beaten path and you may find some real treasures.

It is a game of supply and demand, and if you expand your search beyond the obvious, you might strike gold.