"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Zman429]

I'm legally separated, in the clutches of a messy divorce with many twists and turns. In the final agreement that we have both signed and was approved by the court, we are to be separated for one year and then the divorce becomes final. The settlement agreement includes me gaining complete control of a $425,000 home that is paid for. But with that clause and agreement is that during the 1 year separation period, I am not to engage in a romantic type relationship with another woman. This was set forth in that we might reconcile our differences, per her request in that year time span. I also agreed to marriage counseling. If after the end of said year, I still want to proceed, I get the house and she gets a condo in S Florida worth about half the value of the home I get. So I have $425,000 riding on her not finding out. THATS WHY just stopping all you listed is not an option. This girl will come looking and 10-1 she will find my soon to be EX wife before she finds me.

So I need a plan that causes her to go away and never even want to know who I am or was!

If she has your personal info that's your bad. But you haven't really stated the situation on that. Anyhow either cut contact or make a lot of business trips or come up with something else losing your job etc. You don not and probably should not have an official breakup meeting that only brings drama no point. And use escorts till your divorce is final.

[HollywoodGuy]

If you want top know who the pros are in your area just check out all the profiles on Friday starting at about 3 pm.

[FredMoore]

I have used this before. "man I am really sorry but my work situation and income have changed. I know I have been helping with $$I usually had a monthly allowance set up 1200 - 1500) amount per month but am not going to be able to do that much now. At best 400 - 500. Will that still work for you? They will likely move on!

If they don't end it you have yourself a discount deal. If you want them out then say you can't afford anything.

I did that and she accepted 50%, but kept asking for advances and it got to be too much of a pain in the ass.

[LikeMike1963]

I have used this before. "man I am really sorry but my work situation and income have changed. I know I have been helping with $$I usually had a monthly allowance set up 1200 - 1500) amount per month but am not going to be able to do that much now. At best 400 - 500. Will that still work for you? They will likely move on!

Very Simple Advice: Use your intelligence and savvy and work a plan to get her to dump you. Were it be through being undependable, flaky, mean, low sugar, etc. You need to change your actions to get her to drop you. I speak from experience. The best is for it to be her decision and not yours.

"Peeking In From My Asylum".

BigTigg.

[EuroInCincy]

Message the 10's all day as long as you don't mind getting the occasional disgruntled reply like the one I got this morning.

"$100 are you fucking kidding me? Every arrangement I've had is at least $500 per visit. You're gross and cheap. $100 doesn't even pay my car insurance. You're broke. ".

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/ALLpr...rnia-SugarBaby

Lets see, at the moment I have over a dozen girls waiting for a first date that have agreed to my terms. Mostly younger and at least as good a body as hers..

Being laid back and waiting till they accept your price is the best practice, BUT it takes time, it is like the farmer. Or the hunter. The hunter spends more energy the get his 'prey' while the farmer slowly develops a whole 'herd' of willing prey.

[Rouleur]

I'm legally separated, in the clutches of a messy divorce with many twists and turns. In the final agreement that we have both signed and was approved by the court, we are to be separated for one year and then the divorce becomes final. The settlement agreement includes me gaining complete control of a $425,000 home that is paid for. But with that clause and agreement is that during the 1 year separation period, I am not to engage in a romantic type relationship with another woman. This was set forth in that we might reconcile our differences, per her request in that year time span. I also agreed to marriage counseling. If after the end of said year, I still want to proceed, I get the house and she gets a condo in S Florida worth about half the value of the home I get. So I have $425,000 riding on her not finding out. THATS WHY just stopping all you listed is not an option. This girl will come looking and 10-1 she will find my soon to be EX wife before she finds me.

So I need a plan that causes her to go away and never even want to know who I am or was!

If so, when does the one year separation period end? Are you near the end? If so, I would put this current broken relationship on cruise control until the separation period ends. The longer away from today that one year mark is, the more difficult to adhere to a cruise control strategy. Does the CrazySB know about your finances? When you were in the midst of the good times did you share a lot of personal information that now you regret sharing? If she has been kept out of the loop about your finances then I think the suggestions other Members have made are very good. Ideally, She would be put into a situation where She decided your not going to provide the nourishment she can leech from. As long as she feels you are here current and best hope, she will fight to keep you. The good news could actually be that she is still looking for others. Maybe there is another poor Fly that will land on her web and she will cast you aside for a fresh kill. In any event, I feel for you and sincerely hope you emerge from this nightmare healthy and with the increased wisdom that comes from surviving an ordeal like this. Last year I went through a divorce truly cooked in hell and, although not the same scenario as yours, I did have to fight a woman who was obsessed with destroying me.

[JZLizard]

Any ideas, from anyone who has been through this is welcomed! I've truly been good to this girl and never treated her badly, but I fear the gloves might need to come off. Not in an illegal manor, but just one that scares he heck out of this fake cum bucket. She is truly trash and I want her GONE!

I've been there, not with SBs because I don't give away enough info to them for it to happen and I handle them differently than civvy dates, but I've had clingy civvies go psycho. My best advice was captured in some replies I wrote a few weeks back. I don't remember exactly what I said, but since you're still talking to her, it tells me you decided my advice wasn't for you. You could also cycle back and re-read those messages to see if they sound better now. The thread is too huge and cumbersome for me to navigate back and look for them.

[FredMoore]

Long Distance Relationship:

Hollywood (I guess my question is can you really have a successful long distance relationship. ?).

Sure! It never hurts to have an excellent fuck buddy available, but it is too far to want to do regularly with so much local talent.

[HollywoodGuy]

Great conversation starter. Use it verbatim for all I care. Posted before, but posting it again.

Hi. Every girl on here is looking for 3 things to varying degrees.

1 - financial support.

2 - physical support.

3 - emotional support.

The greater the need for reason 1, the less attention is paid to reasons 2 and 3.

The greater the need for reason 2, the less attention is paid to reasons 1 and 3.

The greater the need for reason 3, the less attention is paid to reasons 1 and 2.

I try to provide a balance between all three reasons as a basis to meet someone. Enough money to say I am not trying to get something for nothing. Real Chemistry. I also have an understanding and giving nature combined with years of experience in taking care of girls and anticipating their needs.

I don't judge what anyone wants and I don't pretend to be able to meet everyones expectations. I use SD4 M as more of a regular dating site but to meet younger girls that want some help with their bills, have sexual needs and fantasies that can be spontaneously explored in a safe and nurturing environment, and with someone that could be a real friend even if its mostly for the financial and physical benefits. But a friend nonetheless.

Whats your motivation?

[Beachesnole02]

I couldn't agree more with your last sentence. However, it is ever so tempting when you know she's just playing you to call her out on her BS and run her through the mud. If I do this, I know the entire posse will be after me. I'm just going to tell her I know she's a working girl and if she contacts me, daddy, mommy, brother, sister, and the entire town in Virginia will know it. Although I honestly think her family already knows and did not give a shit. They are all weird and fucked up people.

They know and don't give a shit. Threatening drama will only create drama. Never let a crazy know you have a button to push, just guarantees they will try to push it. I deal with this type all the time on a professional basis, and just saying, be safer to leave a nominal donation, become a cheapskate, start calling her kid a moron and let her decide to move on.

Good luck. Mean that.

You might have a better shot convincing the judge "your honor it wasn't a romantic relationship. I was just fucking her, not romancing her" ;0.

[HollywoodGuy]

They are Gnipples. I would continue to make the 2 hour drive to play with those. Oops guess I let another one of my fetishes out of the bag.

They are the longest nipples I have personally encountered. And extremely sensitive.

[HollywoodGuy]

I'm legally separated, in the clutches of a messy divorce with many twists and turns. In the final agreement that we have both signed and was approved by the court, we are to be separated for one year and then the divorce becomes final. The settlement agreement includes me gaining complete control of a $425,000 home that is paid for. But with that clause and agreement is that during the 1 year separation period, I am not to engage in a romantic type relationship with another woman. This was set forth in that we might reconcile our differences, per her request in that year time span. I also agreed to marriage counseling. If after the end of said year, I still want to proceed, I get the house and she gets a condo in S Florida worth about half the value of the home I get. So I have $425,000 riding on her not finding out. THATS WHY just stopping all you listed is not an option. This girl will come looking and 10-1 she will find my soon to be EX wife before she finds me.

So I need a plan that causes her to go away and never even want to know who I am or was!

I don't get it. So you mean you agreed not to have sex for a year?

[DirtyDeeds38]

The safest approach is to make her want to dump you. A few years ago I had one that I got to leave me alone by repeatedly making negative comments about her kids. She finally called me an asshole and disappeared. Another more recently I stiffed her on a couple visits and told her my business had taken a serious downturn. When I asked her to spot me 10 bucks for lunch, she never called again. I am sure you know something that will push her buttons. You try to buy her off, or threaten her for trying to blackmail you all falls into the line of advice I give my kids. "It never pays to stir the pot on a crazy person".

I couldn't agree more with your last sentence. However, it is ever so tempting when you know she's just playing you to call her out on her BS and run her through the mud. If I do this, I know the entire posse will be after me. I'm just going to tell her I know she's a working girl and if she contacts me, daddy, mommy, brother, sister, and the entire town in Virginia will know it. Although I honestly think her family already knows and did not give a shit. They are all weird and fucked up people.

[Beachesnole02]

So I need a plan that causes her to go away and never even want to know who I am or was!

The safest approach is to make her want to dump you. A few years ago I had one that I got to leave me alone by repeatedly making negative comments about her kids. She finally called me an asshole and disappeared. Another more recently I stiffed her on a couple visits and told her my business had taken a serious downturn. When I asked her to spot me 10 bucks for lunch, she never called again. I am sure you know something that will push her buttons. You try to buy her off, or threaten her for trying to blackmail you all falls into the line of advice I give my kids. "It never pays to stir the pot on a crazy person".

[Beachesnole02]

I,ve seen her 5 times in 2 months due to major distance problems. Its like a 2 hour drive. Too bad as she is a 8/9/9/9. Very normal girl. Almost too normal for me. She is a little older (28) so not too quick to make a rash decision about who she hangs with. Not sure how you guys deal with that. All the txting in the world isn't the same as seeing someone. But I am staying the course if she does.

They are Gnipples. I would continue to make the 2 hour drive to play with those. Oops guess I let another one of my fetishes out of the bag.