Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[BuyingSmiles]

Some ladies have shared with us their concerns over women on the list who do not advertise on a regular basis questioning why they are on it. Three ladies in particular are of concern, DDawn, Rhonda HMR, and Petra. We all are familiar with the later two as rarely coming on to post and we know DDawn does come on occasionally. After some serious consideration we are asking both men and women on here since this is to help you both see how clients view performances and what they think how often should a lady post on USASG and what criteria should be used to ad her to or remove her from the list? This is not about me or the other guys who have put this list together and the list as has been shown left off some quality ladies who were added on. Ladies can PM thei thoughts or put them on this post Your call. The purpose of the list is to upgrade business practices, encourage exchange of information / and references between guys and women so both can see what the other looks for in business. If women aren't posters in general to show interest why see them. Also another question came up can UTRs make the list and SWs who are vettered bymen in good standing and who know that the ladies they are vouching are quality, don't do drugs and generally provide a good quality experience. Feel free to respond ladies and gents on this. This is about building a better, safer and higher quality community for us all to thrive in. One more thing BOTH SIDES TALK TO EACH OTHER AND BE HONEST We all aren't going to agree on what we will accept in the business but REMEMBER THE REASON THE MEN ARE HERE and consider what is available and on the menu. Have a great day and thanks for the feedback so far. PT.

Why would any provider have input on this, or any list of providers and their ratings, good or bad? Unless they are paying to play with providers they shouldn't have any input. The only name a provider should worry about is their own. If their name is not on the list, their must be a reason. If it's not on the list and it does not belong on the list, hey she is the one that controls that. Step your game up lady! If her name belongs on the list and isn't, her many satisfied customers will speak up. If there is a poll, official or unofficial, public or private, or both, the names submitted by mongers are what should be considered.

My self, I'd prefer to see the data from privately submitted poll of mongers. I think a lot of people would be a little more honest in their criticism or praise when they knew they may not hurt someone's feelings or didn't fear the jealousy that does happen, admittedly or not, from some providers. (I said some not all). As I reflect over the reviews I have given in my time here, I can see I am guilty of playing softball on a couple reviews because I really liked the lady. I wasn't as blunt or harsh maybe as I should have been. Some of that I think is from being a green and wet behind the ears monger. What ever the reason, I believe a lot mongers would be a little more honest if their name was not signed at the bottom of a review or rating poll.

Of course that's just my humble opinion.

BuyingSmiles.

[ClassASweetie]

Is there a reason that almost all of the providers here who have sex multiple times a day for a living are NOT using birth control? Quite frankly, I'm dismayed by this commonality. Don't you know condoms can break? Please be safe in EVERY way, ladies!

As for myself, I have no need for birth control as I have had a complete hysterectomy therefor if I ever got pregnant I would be a millionaire. LOL. But yes any woman in this biz, tubes tied or not, should definately be on birth control. And I would definately reccommend a strong one, like the shot or the new one that's inserted. It's absurd for any woman not to be on birth control unless she is married and trying. IMHO.

[HuntLadys29]

I do have a dog in this fight.

I am a realistic and no bullshit type guy.

First, the new site is just an evolution of the USA site, and I appreciate the fact that the owners care enough to try to make and keep the site profitable, as any responsible businessmen would do. I understand why the price of pussy is higher than it was (in some cases) 10 years ago, and that the cost of a case of pop has also risen. The cost of doing business rises each year. Management must do what it takes to ensure the viability of the business. I welcome that management here is creating a value-added product.

Next, the new site is a beta-version..

AND,

Although I agree with most of the suggestions for change, we should be appreciative that we here, in our great Queen City, are fortunate enough to be part and parcel of that change.

For those illiterates:

You ungrateful assholes. It's a beta-version, it will change for the better, and we here in Cincinnati have been chosen to help mold the future.

Keep the suggestions coming to make things better, quit complaining, and appreciate what we have!

I wouldn't call these guys ungrateful asshole, most guys on here are a little older and don't care for change. Always with change it just takes a little getting used to
I have to go to the old site to pull up the new site. I'm sure in time us old timers will get used to it and then admin and his cohorts will do something else new and we'll be scratching our heads again, myself I'm just grateful to have a site that isn't asking money for info and girls, but if this site ever started asking for a fee I would step up to the plate and pay mine. The bottom line is this site has been good to me so I will return the favor in kind. HL29.

[Stormyoneonly]

I am on the Depo Provera (hence why the boobs grew) and getting ready to go to the Mirena IUD. I think every provider should have a form of birth control, even if she is fixed.

If I get prego I am will be a very rich woman. I am on this best birth control HYSTERECTOMY. Yes for the girls that are not and are not on any birth control CRAZY. You get prego that would be a very big who the daddy on Maury hmmmm.

XOXO,

Stormy.

[Big Sug]

Wow. I seriously dislike the design and operability of the new ad site. The pics are warped on the main page, the font is hard to read and follow and the ad's are too close together. It's a huge step backwards in web design v. This site IMHO. Hope it gets fixed.

[Kenwood Jack]

I do have a dog in this fight.

I am a realistic and no bullshit type guy.

First, the new site is just an evolution of the USA site, and I appreciate the fact that the owners care enough to try to make and keep the site profitable, as any responsible businessmen would do. I understand why the price of pussy is higher than it was (in some cases) 10 years ago, and that the cost of a case of pop has also risen. The cost of doing business rises each year. Management must do what it takes to ensure the viability of the business. I welcome that management here is creating a value-added product.

Next, the new site is a beta-version..

AND,

Although I agree with most of the suggestions for change, we should be appreciative that we here, in our great Queen City, are fortunate enough to be part and parcel of that change.

For those illiterates:

You ungrateful assholes. It's a beta-version, it will change for the better, and we here in Cincinnati have been chosen to help mold the future.

Keep the suggestions coming to make things better, quit complaining, and appreciate what we have!

[PillowTalk69]

But then again, I'm an old fart who doesn't like to change. So get off my lawn! LOL.

I don't much like change but I am flexible if someone walks me through it. PT.

[MrNiceGuyCincy]

I hate the new site! Please bring back the old.

But then again, I'm an old fart who doesn't like to change. So get off my lawn! LOL.

[Pal138]

I hate the new site! Please bring back the old.

Do you know location of the goddamn link to advertisers? Why must it be so fucking difficult.

[CMan5911]

I hate the new site! Please bring back the old.

[DrBnode 73]

I would have to say that I too find the sappy exchanges annoying. I would back this up a bit more if it weren't coming from a member who has a very high post count without providing much in the way of useful intel very often.

I am intrigued by the notion of LE posting fake good reviews in order to infiltrate the site. It's one more thing to look out for I guess. It would be even more interesting to hear more about what this former detective could share about how they used this info.

I see a contradiction here. In order to help prevent what happens in your second paragraph, you're going to have to put up with "sappy" exchanges. When a provider responds to a review in some detail (like what Christina was suggesting below) the whole community gets the benefit of increased legitimacy for the provider and the monger. It helps even more when both the provider and monger are well established here. I'd much prefer having that useful knowledge out in the forum rather than it being tucked away between two people via PM. A purely PM exchange doesn't do the community any good. Sure, sometimes I find the back and forth chatter a bit personal and maybe sappy but I feel safer in the end. That matters.

Let's just say there's one member in particular who seems to have serial cases where he sees a provider repeatedly then suddenly finds himself being ripped off, discovering she's a drug addict, realizing her incall location is scuzzy and that she's ugly as sin, often at the same time, as if the beer goggles had suddenly and miraculously been lifted from his eyes.

I know who you are talking about and am sure I'm not the only one. And not just from posts; many of which are purely negative vitriol that doesn't come off as objective or rational. I've heard a couple complaints from providers too. The result is that I take no interest or useful intel from his posts. He might be smart enough to post the truth 60-70% of the time but that's not that hard to decipher. This person should learn that his credibility is at stake and that he should revisit the "boy who cried wolf" story. The community awareness is a greater "intelligence" than just the sum of the individuals here. That kind of behavior will be found out in due time.

[CleanDog]

Thanks for initiating this discussion. I agree with you. Right now, some advertisers don't even include a name in the body of their ads making it that much more challenging to determine who they are, what their review history / post-count might be, if they're trying to rebrand themselves due to a poor history connected to an old username, or if they're a genuine newbie that we should entertain taking on for the team, etc.

What do others think? Would be great to see the new USA Adult Classifieds get off to a great start based on user feedback.

As I've said before, the Russians are working on this. We can't pressure them because they hack our social media and turn us in TV's every time we try that. We are all more than a little afraid of them and the Kolektive as they call it.

A2

I wish the classified section revealed the ladies screen name. I look at some of these new small pictures, if the lady doesn't post her name in the add it takes a minute or two to recognize her. I was just looking for one lady in particular and it took a few minutes to find her. I'm sure we will all get used to it.

[Member #4637]

Is there a reason that almost all of the providers here who have sex multiple times a day for a living are NOT using birth control? Quite frankly, I'm dismayed by this commonality. Don't you know condoms can break? Please be safe in EVERY way, ladies!

[MollyDaniels]

Happens all of the time on other sites. Ladies have them removed even if they are glowing and great. Writing reviews grants free premium membership on other sites, and cheapskates try to play the system. LE can write fake reviews, but their objective is to infiltrate and bust the community.

[JohnGalt10]

I've had to Come to DEPEND on provider replies, not only due to the lack of referral communication but also because in the past I "use to have" a client that was a retired detective, he told me so myna little tricks they use, and one very favorite trick they used was writing great reviews, he claimed that because a great review is " good advertising " that most providers see so many clients they don't remember their name, he said long as you never make up any fake details about conversation, or claim and positions etc. That you can get trusted by others to give personal info out thru PM, he said they use old reviews like if a girl got BAD reviews they would write a bad review or reply to that one agreeing to back the guy up, he said everyone likes being backed up so just that would get a guy talking to him, if writing a good review he said they read old good reviews and if it mentions a hair style Change or location change they will mention that info as it's already been said, he also said no provider is stupid enough to get on here and dispute a GOOD REVIEW so usually they just add to the member post count to get closer to being a Senior member. Because of that info, I always look to see if the girl actually replied, and I see if it sounds like a generic response or if she really remembered him. This is important IMO.

XOXOXO.

Great discussion into the operations of these detectives. Thanks for the info. JG.