Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[Admin2]

Two small issues with the design of the new site:

1) No visible usernames on any of the posts. It's hard to tell who the actual poster is unless you start comparing individual ads against the ones in the existing thread, which is obviously not a workable solution.

Nothing is stopping the girls from putting their user names in the title. But I get the point, it's about sending PM's from there and it's a good one, I will send that to the Russians.

2) The picture thumbnails on the left of each post look really squashed if the picture is portrait instead of landscape.

Agreed, the base software that we bought doesn't automatically adjust for that. If they post tall thin pics the AR gets all screwed up. We could crop them but then we don't know if they will like it. I think the solution is to add something on the posting side where they get a little box they can set on the photo to make the thumbnails.

Other than that, seems okay. Not quite clear on what the need was for a new site, though, or how things are supposed to interact with the review threads here.

Because life is getting more expensive and we don't want to start making your guys pay so we are going to start having a nominal charge for the advertisers. This site wasn't really set up for what we wanted to do. Personally I think our competitor has gotten way too comfortable with their business and their site isn't that great. I think we can do better. Especially since we have you guys here as well. Maybe more chicks brings more guys and soon people say "Back who? Oh I remember them, they used to have a big website. I wonder what happened to them?"

We want to develop more features for this site so we can offer a subscription level membership for guys that want more functionality and that's very, VERY expensive. We will always have the free area just like now but lots of guys talk about things they would like to see here and most say they would pay for them. The problem is you kind of have to build it first and that's not cheap.

It's about growth, and offering a better product. We are just starting out with the new site and will continue to improve it over the next couple months. We intend to integrate it closely with the forum.

Thanks for the comments,

A2

[Zcochran00]

So it's begining to get populated, thanks to all the ladies and their patience with the early hickups.

I have to say something though, if you have two monitors pull up our site http://usaadultclassifieds.info/clas...ndent-Escorts/ then pull up the competition (BP cough, cough) and look at them side by side. Man there is just no fucking comparing them, ours looks 100 times better.

A2.

Two small issues with the design of the new site:

1) No visible usernames on any of the posts. It's hard to tell who the actual poster is unless you start comparing individual ads against the ones in the existing thread, which is obviously not a workable solution.

2) The picture thumbnails on the left of each post look really squashed if the picture is portrait instead of landscape.

Other than that, seems okay. Not quite clear on what the need was for a new site, though, or how things are supposed to interact with the review threads here.

[Admin2]

So it's begining to get populated, thanks to all the ladies and their patience with the early hickups.

I have to say something though, if you have two monitors pull up our site http://usaadultclassifieds.info/clas...ndent-Escorts/ then pull up the competition (BP cough, cough) and look at them side by side. Man there is just no fucking comparing them, ours looks 100 times better.

A2.

[JLZ61]

No, you were probably clear enough for most. I'll blame my stupidity on 4th of July beers. LOL.

Yah, makes perfect sense. In those cases, providers responding to reviews wouldn't suffice. However, those cases are few and far between (I hope).

The point is that providers help both sides by responding and acknowledging reviews. It would help if more of them did that, especially with newer members.

I wasn't clear. The situation is he is LE and he busts her. She turns over her account to work things off. He uses his account to write a review of her and he uses her account to post a thanks. We take that as a sign she is good and contact her unaware we are dealing with LE. We set things up and walk into the trap because LE is there. We ID ourselves as the guy behind the email by showing up at the appointed place and time. Sorry for the confusion.

[NKYGentleman]

Quote Originally Posted by NKYGentleman {View Original Post}.

I walked in the room and met a very classy, genuine, woman who's intelligent, very attractive and accommodating to my requests and needs. I would love to have this woman to my self. Of all the providers and some of ladies that I have personally seen. This one I would take home to meet my mother.

Like I said before, it was my first post and I was trying to be sincere and genuine with a new provider with those words and I meant them. But as it panned out with other members chiming in and Josh88 finding pics if Lizzy, you would have seen what she really looked like. If you actively follow the board. You would see that she was new to the hobby and was trying not to show her face. Because of family and such. If you read her responds to all of the up roar, you would have read that she did explain about the fake pics. It was an agency that did that. Not her. She just ran with it because she didn't know any better. She's been independent now. Just put your self in her shoe's trying to make ends meet but yet being discreet about it.

It's just a case of two newbie's one being a monger and the other being a provider. A monger sharing info about a new provider. No more and no less. I do agree with the whole LEO thing and playing it safe. Now that we both have been on the hobby for a while now. We have both learned and gain valuable knowledge in this business.

So, if you would like to see a very high caliber person who's college educated, very attractive mature lady. I do recommend her. She's in the process of getting a web site up and having pics of her on it so you will know what she looks like. It may or may not have the shadow covering her face. She hasn't let me know yet.

You can find the info you need of her on BP and on aNotheR site. She's trying to get away from that site (BP), but for now. That's where she's advertising.

[Golfcart]

But the chance of both being compromised is less than of just one.
JLZ.

I wasn't clear. The situation is he is LE and he busts her. She turns over her account to work things off. He uses his account to write a review of her and he uses her account to post a thanks. We take that as a sign she is good and contact her unaware we are dealing with LE. We set things up and walk into the trap because LE is there. We ID ourselves as the guy behind the email by showing up at the appointed place and time. Sorry for the confusion.

[JLZ61]

True, unless they are both compromised.

But the chance of both being compromised is less than of just one.

Nonetheless, I do wish more providers would respond to reviews, whether positive or negative. I think that the majority of those that do are the more senior and serious of the providers. Many of the shorter term providers don't even have access to a computer. They're probably looking for immediate cash and not really looking to build a long term business.

JLZ.

[D Nut]

This shit with new people is going to stop. I suggest you stop it now because this came to my attention here in the Octagon I'm not going to review your last 50 posts and then put you on moderation for the inevitable 20 argumentative posts I'm going to find.

A2

I hear what you're saying, and in my defence, here is the post that made me think he wasn't legit.

... I walked in the room and met a very classy, genuine, woman who's intelligent, very attractive and accommodating to my requests and needs. I would love to have this woman to my self. Of all the providers and some of ladies that I have personally seen. This one I would take home to meet my mother.

It was a first time post / review of a provider that was obviously using fake pictures of Elizabeth Shue. First time poster, glowing review of a new provider using fake pictures. How is that not a red flag that other mongers need to be made aware of? Even without the review, the ad alone is a clear cut bait-and-switch situation, unless of course, Elizabeth Shue was providing escort services in Cincinnati.

But you are right. This is not my board and I am a guest. If you say no more calling out of newbies, so be it.

[Golfcart]

And, although some (providers) do respond to reviews and, in doing so, acknowledge the monger's legitimacy, many providers don't. Such responses would go a long way to verifying a monger is who he says he is, letting both mongers and providers know he is at least not LEO.

True, unless they are both compromised.

[Golfcart]

There is a million miles between "Hey this guy with two posts said XXXX, I smell bacon." EVERY FUCKING TIME somebody new shows up and not giving a referral to somebody you don't know. I'm not saying you gotta help them, I'm not saying you gotta spoon feed them, I ignore guys all the time down here on my account. All I'm saying is I'm gonna stop guys from making the forum so uncomfortable that new guys don't want to get involved.

A2

Whenever I see a "somebody" trying to make a new guy uncomfortable I assume the "somebody" is a hobby-by-computer guy and doesn't really see escorts. Otherwise the "somebody" wouldn't be in such a bad mood.

[JLZ61]

It's a natural thing, this giving the new guys shit. Hell, for me at least, it started in the junior high boy's locker room. And continues to some extent to this day (no longer in the junior high boy's locker room, though. LOL.).

Yeah, it takes time for the senior members to trust and, as it's been said many times, hitting 6 months and X number posts ain't it.

But the deal is not only do we trust the intel but is this guy LEO? What's interesting is this affects providers as much as mongers. And, although some do respond to reviews and, in doing so, acknowledge the monger's legitimacy, many providers don't. Such responses would go a long way to verifying a monger is who he says he is, letting both mongers and providers know he is at least not LEO.

The rest will still take time.

[Admin2]

I don't think its necessary to run new guys through the gauntlet, and of course Jackson's rules rule, but I would like to point out something that no one mentioned in this fracas. That one thing is that when a new guy reviews an established provider, and the provider responds to his review confirming that the new guy was a client, we then have significant confirmation that the new guy isn't a LE plant. I completely understand Admin's being pissed off about new guys getting ragged, but I (especially up here in Cleveland) would feel a lot more comfortable making a referral to a new guy if I knew he had seen a provider we can verify through the board as being real. With all due respect.

Cheech.

There is a million miles between "Hey this guy with two posts said XXXX, I smell bacon." EVERY FUCKING TIME somebody new shows up and not giving a referral to somebody you don't know. I'm not saying you gotta help them, I'm not saying you gotta spoon feed them, I ignore guys all the time down here on my account. All I'm saying is I'm gonna stop guys from making the forum so uncomfortable that new guys don't want to get involved.

A2

[Cheech1]

Note this is in blue, not black.

I'm not sure what event you to are fighting about but I have something to say about this in general.

It is way, way, WAY past fucking time for this "calling out" of noobs to end.

Do you pay for the ads to try and get new traffic to this forum? I think not.

Do you pay for the servers to run this forum? I don't think so on that one either.

What you are here is a guest, yes a guest. A guest we value and hope keeps coming to our parties but guests don't start fights with other guests in the living room.

This shit with new people is going to stop. I suggest you stop it now because this came to my attention here in the Octagon I'm not going to review your last 50 posts and then put you on moderation for the inevitable 20 argumentative posts I'm going to find.

I don't care what you went through when you started, what I'm telling you is that shit is fucking over. I will gladly trade 10 senior members for the 200 new guys they run off with that shit. Because eventually I will get rid of all the seniors that do it, and the 150 new guys that stay will become seniors someday and they won't be dicks to the new guys after them.

It's not your forum and if Jax wanted a rule like "new guys get shit on until we are out of shit" he would have written one, he didn't. What he did write was two separate rules, numbers 2, and 3 right there at the very top that say don't do shit like this.

I'm using D Nut's post for this PSA but this goes to anybody here. You don't have to help new guys, you don't have to spoon feed them. You're more than welcomed to ignore them if you wish, but what you can't do until you own this place is keep running them off.

A2

I don't think its necessary to run new guys through the gauntlet, and of course Jackson's rules rule, but I would like to point out something that no one mentioned in this fracas. That one thing is that when a new guy reviews an established provider, and the provider responds to his review confirming that the new guy was a client, we then have significant confirmation that the new guy isn't a LE plant. I completely understand Admin's being pissed off about new guys getting ragged, but I (especially up here in Cleveland) would feel a lot more comfortable making a referral to a new guy if I knew he had seen a provider we can verify through the board as being real. With all due respect.

Cheech.

[TheDaytimer]

I never though I would have to post this, but based upon several recent experiences many providers have no clue about the interaction of OILs and LATEX.

LADIES you CANNOT use LATEX condoms when you also use most OILs. This included:

-Baby Oil,

-Grape Seed Oil.

-Wesson Oil.

-Motor Oil.

-Petroleum Jelly I. E. Vaseline products.

-Hand lotions,

These "massage oils" break down the latex in condoms and often cause them to break, usually when a guy is entering or giving a good hard thrust. (unless of course you are looking for a "sneaky" BBFS session without the guilt. Also called a Surprise Creampie. ".

Use WATER BASED massage oils and lubricants or use NON-LATEX Condoms. Both are easy to get at CVS, Walmart etc in the section where you buy other family planning stuff.

[Kintaro II]

Good info about a green dot scam at the Cleveland Backpage board:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...860&viewfull=1#post2128860.


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