"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[HollywoodGuy]

HW, I am shocked that you picked a non spinner. I thought that was a no no. Sounds like you had a good workout though.

$3 K / month is about what you need to have a stable of more than 1 or 2 SBs. It is not a hobby for low income guys.

It was a risk that payed off. She was a 9 in bed.

[HollywoodGuy]

Hollowood, were the 4 Pros known as such before your dates or were they weeded out through your discovery process? Just curious.

They were all known pros. One knocked my socks off. The rest were below lame.

[DirtyDeeds38]

HW, I am shocked that you picked a non spinner. I thought that was a no no. Sounds like you had a good workout though.

$3 K / month is about what you need to have a stable of more than 1 or 2 SBs. It is not a hobby for low income guys.

I'm not a low income guy myself, but not Donald Trump either. But this hobby can be for any guy really. If you're willing to put in a big effort to reel a girl in, find the ones that will go to the FC for $ $ or below and then move to another a month or so later. For me the biggest expense was going out to eat, hotels and travel. Equaled more then what I was paying any girl. A guy can turn a girl once a month of $300 or so if he plays his cards right. But on average, if you want to play all this hobby has to offer $3 K per month is about right.

The other issue is it's addicting big time! I've never stumbled on anything before that grabbed hold of me like being in the sugar bowl. So even if your a blue collar guy and can spare $500 per month for a few experiences, you're going to want more and more. It's a dangerous game for someone living paycheck to paycheck.

[FredMoore]

HW, I am shocked that you picked a non spinner. I thought that was a no no. Sounds like you had a good workout though.

$3 K / month is about what you need to have a stable of more than 1 or 2 SBs. It is not a hobby for low income guys.

[Rouleur]

142 total dates averaged $.22 per date.

Out of Which.

93 A team dates (3 girls on the team) averaged $.33 per date.

49 dates between 15 other girls averaged $.02 per date. 4 Pros, 3 UTR's and 8 SB's. The Pros got 1 date each.

This includes all expenses (12 notel stays, meals, gifts, etc.) except gas.

I did 15 other M&G's for $$$ total that didn't go to the FC. 3 Pros, 3 UTR's and 9 SB's

So basically 3k a month. There is safety in numbers.

Hollowood, were the 4 Pros known as such before your dates or were they weeded out through your discovery process? Just curious.

[HollywoodGuy]

142 total dates averaged $.22 per date.

Out of Which.

93 A team dates (3 girls on the team) averaged $.33 per date.

49 dates between 15 other girls averaged $.02 per date. 4 Pros, 3 UTR's and 8 SB's. The Pros got 1 date each.

This includes all expenses (12 notel stays, meals, gifts, etc.) except gas.

I did 15 other M&G's for $$$ total that didn't go to the FC. 3 Pros, 3 UTR's and 9 SB's

So basically 3k a month. There is safety in numbers.

[HollywoodGuy]

I messaged this girl yesterday asking her if she was meeting anyone on the site. She turned down my original offer of $ a week earlier. I also mentioned to her that I lived only 10 minutes a way and that it would be easy to meet her.

One message led to another and I took her to lunch today. She seemed nice, very bright, middle class but kinda bold. I go more for the sweet submissive types. Anyway we had a nice lunch and I went for a small kiss as I dropped her off. Very small, but I could sense some possible chemistry and that she was a sexually confident 19 year old. So we agreed to meet Thursday for a 5 hour date at my place.

I get home and an hour later she txt's me that she is free this afternoon for a couple hours. I was a little hesitant as she was a little curvier than my preference, but she was tight, so I said ok. Also the date was only for 2 hours so I figured if it didn't go well I wouldn't be stuck with her all day.

So we get back to my place and I am showing her around, living room, dining room, bedroom. She walks in and immediately started to disrobe. After about 3 minutes of foreplay we just went straight to it. In bed she was a real daddies girl and an awesome kisser (lots of hair pulling, spanking and daddy talk).

After about 20 minutes and a few O's she says she is done and that I don't cum too fast. I acknowledged that and proceeded to bang her for another 20 minutes and her final O. Then it was my turn. She finished me off with some good oral and then we chatted for a few before I took her home.

This might be the first time a girl that turned me down said yes after hitting her back up. Something I usually never do but have started to a couple months ago. I am sure I will see her again.

[RiverCity2011]

Does anyone in Richmond have experience with that older woman on SA called Virginia? She seems out of sorts?

[Beachesnole02]

Beautiful body, the kind I dream about. Thank you for sharing the photo Beach.

I am so lucky. I guarantee you having been with her that I dream about her every night.

[Rouleur]

So out of the blue, the swimsuit model that I haven't seen in 4 months texts me about getting together. I mentioned that last time we saw each other she had "rules" that were a problem (no BBBJ) She says "Oh I know you well enough now that is not a problem" So I am set with my perfect 10 body for Thursday. Then I had set a date to take my current favorite (the translator) out for a nice lunch for her birthday on Wednesday and she emails last night that she wanted it to be a memorable birthday so she had made arrangments for a room (don't get any better than that).

Now my 23 yr old hottie is emailing that she will be "home alone" on the 4th and do I want to come over that morning. So, I have dates with a 10 that is promising to step up her game, a solid 9 that has exceptional game and another 8. 5 that is a 9 in the bedroom. Going to have to eat my Wheaties.

So my favorite says during our last visit that she likes to go to strip clubs to see the women, but finds it frustrating because it is "look but don't touch" Might have to explore with my other 2 this week their thoughts on being with another woman. Here is a shot of her. Attachment 330143.

Beautiful body, the kind I dream about. Thank you for sharing the photo Beach.

[HollywoodGuy]

So out of the blue, the swimsuit model that I haven't seen in 4 months texts me about getting together. I mentioned that last time we saw each other she had "rules" that were a problem (no BBBJ) She says "Oh I know you well enough now that is not a problem" So I am set with my perfect 10 body for Thursday. Then I had set a date to take my current favorite (the translator) out for a nice lunch for her birthday on Wednesday and she emails last night that she wanted it to be a memorable birthday so she had made arrangments for a room (don't get any better than that).

Now my 23 yr old hottie is emailing that she will be "home alone" on the 4th and do I want to come over that morning. So, I have dates with a 10 that is promising to step up her game, a solid 9 that has exceptional game and another 8. 5 that is a 9 in the bedroom. Going to have to eat my Wheaties.

So my favorite says during our last visit that she likes to go to strip clubs to see the women, but finds it frustrating because it is "look but don't touch" Might have to explore with my other 2 this week their thoughts on being with another woman. Here is a shot of her. Attachment 330143.

We are so lucky. LOL.

[Beachesnole02]

So out of the blue, the swimsuit model that I haven't seen in 4 months texts me about getting together. I mentioned that last time we saw each other she had "rules" that were a problem (no BBBJ) She says "Oh I know you well enough now that is not a problem" So I am set with my perfect 10 body for Thursday. Then I had set a date to take my current favorite (the translator) out for a nice lunch for her birthday on Wednesday and she emails last night that she wanted it to be a memorable birthday so she had made arrangments for a room (don't get any better than that).

Now my 23 yr old hottie is emailing that she will be "home alone" on the 4th and do I want to come over that morning. So, I have dates with a 10 that is promising to step up her game, a solid 9 that has exceptional game and another 8. 5 that is a 9 in the bedroom. Going to have to eat my Wheaties.

So my favorite says during our last visit that she likes to go to strip clubs to see the women, but finds it frustrating because it is "look but don't touch" Might have to explore with my other 2 this week their thoughts on being with another woman. Here is a shot of her. .

[HollywoodGuy]

I see a fair number of 5 hundred dollar girls on SD$M. One can only dream. The true 10+ super hotties. Still no guarantee of 10+ skills. But there is nothing like taking in the view when you got your tongue inside one of those babes. I need to get rich again.

[John G Smith]

So on my last update, I reconnected with two SBs I thought were lost causes. Here's a brief update.

Asian SB.

I thought this was a one-time deal because she never returned my text messages for several days after we hooked up. But over the past week, she's called my phone several times. Unfortunately I wasn't able to answer when she called and when I called her back, she didn't pick up. I'm guessing at some point down the line I might be able to hookup with her again, but she seems pretty allusive, so in all likelihood it'll remain a one-time thing. I'm glad I had the experience, but man one-time deals can be such a tease!

Collegiate SB (now known as Collegiate BC).

I wasn't sure if this was going to be a one-time deal too but I contacted last week and we hooked up again after her workshift ended. This time she asked for a little more allowance, but when I said no she didn't give much resistance at all and was still eager to meet. We had another fun-time and I still marveled at just how amazing her body was. After our romp, I found out she did find a SD who gave her a lot of money (I believe it because she really is that hot). That SD trained her well because she's completely housebroken now, LOL. No more diva attitude and just appreciative and eager to please. That said, there must be trouble in paradise because if her rich SD was still giving her a lot of money, I doubt she would be seeing me for a fraction of the amount. So there's more to the story obviously, but whatever the circumstances it's currently working out to my benefit. She indicated she wants to keep making this a weekly thing, which is absolutely okay in my book. We don't have much of a connection, so it's pretty much just a very convenient booty call setup. We just text each other on when to hookup.

[John G Smith]

I know this probably won't last, but for me, it's chance to relive a period of life I never had being that I married really young. I'll make the most of it, enjoy her, take care of her for a while and then we will probably have some kind of sad ending. 23 years her senior is not something you can wish or will away and eventually I suspect that will catch up to us.

Good luck mate. Definitely enjoy the ride.

If I wasn't married, I would probably entertain a similar adventure. But so far in my Sugar Bowl career, I haven't had a girl fall head over heels for me. I've had SBs that turned into FWBs where the allowance became less important. But so far never a full-on romance. I think it's mostly due to my unavailability, I don't do overnights, I don't do long phone conversations, and I don't video chat. I just text and maybe see them a few times a month on relatively short dates. A couple of SBs did want more from me (they wanted me to call more often) but that was a no-go for me with my situation so that pretty much stopped any real romantic feelings from developing because I could never really "be there" for them.

I also got married young so part of the reason I'm in the Sugar Bowl is to relive a period in my life and have experiences that I never had a chance to when I was younger. The vast vast majority of SBs encounters will be short-term but then again so is civvy dating for 20-somethings. If however you do find a young woman in the Bowl that you genuinely click with and you're not married, then go for it. It probably won't last the distance but enjoy the ride and you'll sure to get a lot of great memories from it.